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1. 05:20 AM - chain links (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 10:33 AM - Re: chain links (Ray Krause)
3. 01:03 PM - Re: Alittle something of recent interest (tools)
4. 02:14 PM - Re: Alittle something of recent interest (jarheadpilot82)
5. 02:40 PM - Model A RPM (bender)
6. 03:21 PM - Stabilizer brackets.. (Ray Krause)
7. 03:30 PM - Re: Model A RPM (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
8. 03:32 PM - Re: Stabilizer brackets.. (Gary Boothe)
9. 04:19 PM - Re: Stabilizer brackets.. (CraigAho)
10. 05:37 PM - Re: Re: Stabilizer brackets.. (Ray Krause)
11. 06:28 PM - A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Fun2av8)
12. 06:35 PM - Re: Stabilizer brackets.. (Jim Boyer)
13. 06:36 PM - Re: Re: Stabilizer brackets.. (Jim Boyer)
14. 06:39 PM - Re: Model A RPM (BRETT PHILLIPS)
15. 07:02 PM - Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Jack Phillips)
16. 07:22 PM - Re: Stabilizer brackets.. (Ray Krause)
17. 07:26 PM - Re: Re: Stabilizer brackets.. (Ray Krause)
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I did like like Jerry, same size and used an3 bolts. I used an3 clevis pins
on the exterior links to my brake actuator rod because the head was smaller.
You can probably go on mcmaster.com and just guy the links you want, or one
length of chain will get you lots of links. Just grind off the pins and
pull it all apart.
douwe
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Has anyone just used the #50 master link with the spring clip instead of the
clevis pins or AN bolts? Not safe? How about using the master links with t
he double tabs on top of the link for the rudder cable attach points (two ca
ble attaching to one point)? They are only $3.11 each and you only need four
? See McMaster catalogue mcmaster.com.
Ray Krause
SkyScout
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On Apr 5, 2013, at 5:20 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> I did like like Jerry, same size and used an3 bolts. I used an3 clevis pi
ns on the exterior links to my brake actuator rod because the head was small
er.
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> You can probably go on mcmaster.com and just guy the links you want, or on
e length of chain will get you lots of links. Just grind off the pins and p
ull it all apart.
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> douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Alittle something of recent interest |
Classic example of bureaucracy and paradigms.
The feds require us to "position report" ourselves flying around in the airlines
(domestically), despite to the second tracking available on a multitude of publically
available and viewable systems on the internet. And our planes automatically
transmit all sorts of data every few minutes, including our position.
EVEN when we're in radar contact, which is practically ALWAYS in the US.
Internationally, we still have to check in with oceanic control via voice on HF,
even when we have established data comms via satellite (a system called CPDLC
- controller to pilot data link comms, or something...). Notice it's controller
to pilot...
They've FINALLY officially allowed us to use our cell phones to call dispatch...
on the ground. Of course, been doing it for years.
Some day they'll catch up with technology, even their own!
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| Subject: | Re: Alittle something of recent interest |
Tools,
The funny thing is that the major complaint to using PLB as an alternative to ELT
is the fact that they are not triggered by the force of a crash and no signal
is sent out. The are not triggered by crash forces because THEY ARE WORKING
ALL THE TIME!! all someone has to do is notice that the "breadcrumbs" the PLB
is leaving are all in the same place and that it would be a logical assumption
that the PLB is no longer moving. Some software geek (if they haven't already
done it) could write software that would do just that- once the breadcrumbs
start being left in the same place a call is made to find out if the person is
safe. No answer, then send someone out to the site. The exact site, because it
has already sent multiple GPS position reports (breadcrumbs). DUH!
I will bet you that there would be fewer false messages with an approved PLB system,
than there already are with the 121.5 system. How many times have you heard
an ELT on Guard while flying? Almost every leg, it seems, domestically.
Just my $.02
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Hello A guys..
What kind of RPM do you see or use for takeoff and cruise
Just wondering as I do more ground runs..
I've been having an issue with blowing water out of the overflow..not overheating
just blowing it out at high rpm's.
I added a steam tube to the front of the head...cut down the impeller blades on
the water pump a bit after a bit of reading on modern radiators and old pumps..
put in a 160 deg thermostat today mostly as a restrictor and that seems to have
helped a lot.. i think the water was just being pumped too fast to the top tank
at full power.
but that got me thinking... what is cruise RPM on the A
jeff
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| Subject: | Stabilizer brackets.. |
Help!
Are the guide wire brackets on the stabilizer mounted on the spar at the same level
as the "rib" (cap strips) so that the bracket is then mounted after covering
and on top of the fabric? Or are the brackets mounted on the spar, below
the rib level so that the brackets are under the fabric and only the tips that
attach to the guide wires protrude through the fabric?
I remember seeing this on Jim Boyer's Piet, but cannot remember how they were set
up.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
SkyScout
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Jeff,
If you need help with a run-up, I'll be in town tonight and would be available
all morning.
Curt
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Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Stabilizer brackets.. |
The answer is, "Yes." It's your call. Mine are under the fabric.
Gary
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On Apr 5, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net> wrote:
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> Help!
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> Are the guide wire brackets on the stabilizer mounted on the spar at the same
level as the "rib" (cap strips) so that the bracket is then mounted after covering
and on top of the fabric? Or are the brackets mounted on the spar, below
the rib level so that the brackets are under the fabric and only the tips that
attach to the guide wires protrude through the fabric?
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> I remember seeing this on Jim Boyer's Piet, but cannot remember how they were
set up.
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> Thanks,
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> Ray Krause
> SkyScout
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> Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Stabilizer brackets.. |
On my NX40772 I had them on the surface. I will have to take a look at those who
have put them under to see how I would like to do it on the next go round.
Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Stabilizer brackets.. |
Thanks, Gary and Craig. Wish you said it had to be one way or the other, then I
would not have to make a decision. Putting them underneath would certainly reduce
the drag, a main concern of mine! Putting them on top would make future modifications/repairs
easier. Ahh, the problems we must face with these aircraft.
If I put them on top, I will never be able to keep up wit Gary!
Thanks,
Ray Krause
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On Apr 5, 2013, at 4:16 PM, "CraigAho" <Soar561@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> On my NX40772 I had them on the surface. I will have to take a look at those
who have put them under to see how I would like to do it on the next go round.
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| Subject: | A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam |
I'm still a newbie here - have yet to fly my new Piet - Pick it up next weekend
in Sarasota. I am hoping to keep all my questions and comments regarding my
new Piet in this single thread. To do so, assumes that every new entry in this
thread will be posted as new in the daily distribution lists. If that is a bad
assumption - please let me know.
Passenger Door
I notice in a video sent to me that there is no side door for the passenger.
Is it difficult to add a door?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bIDMugSvrk
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Jim McWhorter
N687M (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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| Subject: | Re: Stabilizer brackets.. |
Hi Ray,
If you mean the mounting tabs for the stabilizer brace wires. Mine are mounted
at the same level as the top of the stabilizer ribs so they are on top of the
fabric.
Cheers,
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Stabilizer brackets.. |
Ray what is the difference between 75 mph and 75.2 mph?
Jim
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Jeff:
The burping problem seems to have been an issue with the model A since the
early days. Mr Pietenpol wrote that if the head mounted water pump was
used, at least 1-1/2" dia. hoses needed to be used, along with a larger
radiator. If a "pusher" pump was installed to force cooled water into the
block, then smaller hoses and a smaller radiator could be used. I assume
this is related to the fact that hot water/coolant is less dense, and
probably more likely to cause pump cavitation. In any case, a steam vent
line to the front of the head was recommended in case the engine did get
hot enough to boil in a long climb. All of this was published after the
FGM articles in a 3-part series that began in the December 1932 issue of
Popular Aviation.
Regarding cruise RPM; I've heard all kinds of things, and it really boils
(couldn't resist) down to your prop selection and climb performance
requirements. Mr Pietenpol got by with 1600 per the FGM, and I've heard of
a couple that cruise as high as 2150, but most seem to run around 18-1900,
with most being on the upper end of that range. I think Ken Perkins runs
his at 2000 RPM for cruise.
Brett
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 5:40 PM, bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> wrote:
> jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
>
> Hello A guys..
> What kind of RPM do you see or use for takeoff and cruise
> Just wondering as I do more ground runs..
> I've been having an issue with blowing water out of the overflow..not
> overheating just blowing it out at high rpm's.
> I added a steam tube to the front of the head...cut down the impeller
> blades on the water pump a bit after a bit of reading on modern radiators
> and old pumps..
> put in a 160 deg thermostat today mostly as a restrictor and that seems
> to have helped a lot.. i think the water was just being pumped too fast to
> the top tank at full power.
>
> but that got me thinking... what is cruise RPM on the A
>
> jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397922#397922
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| Subject: | A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam |
Jim,
Kerri-Ann Price sells plans for a front cockpit door, but it adds
considerable weight and I think you would have to build a new fuselage to
get it. I doubt if can be retrofitted to an existing fuselage.
I find the lack of a door to be a distinct advantage in that it requires a
certain amount of agility to be able to get in the front cockpit. This
tends to automatically eliminate the more gravitationally-challenged
individuals from bugging you for a ride, but it does nothing to discourage
slim young females - in fact it offers opportunities to "help" them get in.
All kidding aside, you don't need a door. You need the airplane to be as
light as possible and putting in a door requires cutting the top longeron,
which is one of the main load-bearing members of the aircraft. Cutting that
requires adding lots of structure to make up for the loss of strength,
adding weight for little purpose.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fun2av8
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 9:29 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam
I'm still a newbie here - have yet to fly my new Piet - Pick it up next
weekend in Sarasota. I am hoping to keep all my questions and comments
regarding my new Piet in this single thread. To do so, assumes that every
new entry in this thread will be posted as new in the daily distribution
lists. If that is a bad assumption - please let me know.
Passenger Door
I notice in a video sent to me that there is no side door for the passenger.
Is it difficult to add a door?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bIDMugSvrk
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Jim McWhorter
N687M (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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| Subject: | Re: Stabilizer brackets.. |
Thanks, Jim!
I am leaning towards doing it that way; but I will never be able to race Gar
y's airstream Piet!
Jim, are your cabanes steel or aluminum? What are you doing for the main st
ruts?
Thanks,
Ray
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On Apr 5, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Ray,
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> If you mean the mounting tabs for the stabilizer brace wires. Mine are mou
nted at the same level as the top of the stabilizer ribs so they are on top o
f the fabric.
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> Cheers,
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> Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Stabilizer brackets.. |
Winner or loser! The guy is second place is the first loser! Gary is so CO
MPETATIVE,
Ray
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On Apr 5, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ray what is the difference between 75 mph and 75.2 mph?
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> Jim
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