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1. 12:09 AM - Re: Do I need to sheet this with plywood? (Clif Dawson)
2. 01:35 AM - Re: Re: Corky's rib building company (Isablcorky@aol.com)
3. 05:07 AM - Re: Aluminum Bump (helspersew@aol.com)
4. 06:22 AM - Re: Pulleys or "through the seat" ? (TOM STINEMETZE)
5. 06:31 AM - Re: Aluminum Bump (kevinpurtee)
6. 06:40 AM - Do I need to sheet this with plywood? (Douwe Blumberg)
7. 06:42 AM - Re: Re: Aluminum Bump (Gary Boothe)
8. 07:38 AM - Re: An Inquiry (Ralph)
9. 07:44 AM - Re: An Inquiry (Ralph)
10. 07:45 AM - Thrust Pull Test (Perry Rhoads)
11. 07:49 AM - Re: Re: Aluminum Bump (Ken Bickers)
12. 08:24 AM - Re: Straight Axel advise (CraigAho)
13. 09:00 AM - Wood on the Way (Isablcorky@aol.com)
14. 09:01 AM - Re: An Inquiry (Jim Boyer)
15. 09:59 AM - Re: Virginia Pietenpols (Fun2av8)
16. 10:27 AM - Re: Re: Virginia Pietenpols (Jack Phillips)
17. 11:08 AM - Re: straight axle landing gear (CraigAho)
18. 11:40 AM - Re: Re: Virginia Pietenpols (BRETT PHILLIPS)
19. 12:19 PM - Re: Straight Axel advise (CraigAho)
20. 12:58 PM - Re: Do I need to sheet this with plywood? (Lion Mason)
21. 01:03 PM - Wing incidence.. (Ray Krause)
22. 01:47 PM - Re: Wing incidence.. (Gary Boothe)
23. 01:49 PM - Re: An Inquiry (jarheadpilot82)
24. 01:59 PM - Re: Wing incidence.. (jarheadpilot82)
25. 02:02 PM - Re: Wing incidence.. (C N Campbell)
26. 02:06 PM - Re: Wing incidence.. (C N Campbell)
27. 03:43 PM - Re: Craig , new to list (CraigAho)
28. 04:27 PM - Re: Wing incidence.. (Jim Boyer)
29. 05:44 PM - Re: Thrust Pull Test (Brett Phillips)
30. 06:02 PM - Re: Thrust Pull Test (Perry Rhoads)
31. 06:15 PM - Re: Virginia Pietenpols (Fun2av8)
32. 06:25 PM - Re: worlds largest pietenpol (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
33. 06:30 PM - 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In (Fun2av8)
34. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: An Inquiry (Isablcorky@aol.com)
35. 08:05 PM - Re: Corky's rib building company (taildrags)
36. 08:10 PM - Re: 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In (tools)
37. 08:27 PM - Re: Do I need to sheet this with plywood? (Mark Roberts)
38. 08:29 PM - Re: Re: Wing incidence.. (Ray Krause)
39. 09:30 PM - Re: Wing incidence.. (taildrags)
40. 09:36 PM - Re: Wood on the Way (taildrags)
41. 11:42 PM - Re: Re: straight axle landing gear (Clif Dawson)
42. 11:46 PM - Re: worlds largest pietenpol (Clif Dawson)
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Subject: | Re: Do I need to sheet this with plywood? |
I filled with balsa and covered in 1/32 ply.
My rudder cables go in a straight line from
the bar to the rudder. In doing so they lie
just above the front edge of the seat. I acquired
a 1/4" thick piece of micarta ( traditional you know )
and made guides from that. At the seat back they
do only that, no direction change at all. The
ones mounted above the bellcrank do bend
a teeny weeny bit, barely noticable in the pic.
Another thing I've added is rudder stops at
the bar. At full deflection they hold said
rudder 1/2" away from the elevators. I saw a
vid once of completion inspection and that
was a fail on that plane so I checked mine
and sure enough the rudder went too far. Not
any more. :-)
Clif
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From: "Mark Roberts" <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 12:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Do I need to sheet this with plywood?
> <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
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> Hey Guys:
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> Do I need to sheet this with plywood? I used balsa blocks to fill the
> space between the top.deck stringers as bracing. It goes back about 4"
> back from the face of the front of the top former/sear back. I was
> planning to cover this with 1/8 ply, but after looking at the final
> product, I am thinking it is plenty strong, but I am not sure how much
> abuse this part gets when sitting on it/ getting in and out/ etc.
>
> Will the final covering be enough if I cover the top with some leather
> like Mike Cuy? Just looking for some "been there, done that" advice.
>
> I do plan to "dimple" or feather the edges to prevent the covering from
> having a hard edge regardless...
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> Thanks!
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Subject: | Re: Corky's rib building company |
In a message dated 4/8/2013 3:01:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
mercer.k@comcast.net writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "kmercer" <mercer.k@comcast.net>
Corky,
If you're looking for more business, I'm in for a set of ribs (after
Douwe's, of course!)!
Ken Mercer
San Rafael, CA (but a native Texan)
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Ken Mercer
San Rafael, CA (KDVO)
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This was a Sat night inspiration. It's now Monday morn and I haven't talked
with my material source. Will put you down as a potential. Will let you
know cost ASAP.
Corky
What worries me the most is FREIGHT. They have gone krazy.
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum Bump |
Dear Mr. Boothe,
It is a very good thing that you were able to rectify this rather serious d
iscrepancy now, rather than later. And it is even more commendable (and adm
irable) that you are of such elevated character, to be able to admit to suc
h a tragic mistake publicly. As we all know on this list, we are fast appro
aching the (limited) annual May 1st revealing and opening of the "lost" Ber
nard H (don't call me Bernie) Pietenpol files, that I have the highly-honor
ed position to have in my possession, the fiduciary duty been bestowed upon
me and entrusted with. I can assure you that on that date, I will surely l
ook into and clarify this matter, just as soon as we can open the hermetica
lly sealed jar that these fragile papers are stored. Last year, according t
o my recollection, I thought there was a BHP directive that went "No materi
als or processes not currently known shall be used in he production of any
BHP design airplane" or something to that effect.
Respectfully,
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Sun, Apr 7, 2013 5:47 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum Bump
I awoke in a cold sweat last night, suddenly realizing that Dan Helsper was
going to learn that my Piet came out of the factory with a fiberglass bump
he would then produce a document from the Secret Files, questionin
g the authenticity of my plane. This bump is necessary to hide a portion of
my Corvair (A la Last Original) starter (see top of cowling). All I had on
hand was some 6061 and some homemade toolsand about 3 hours.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Subject: | Re: Pulleys or "through the seat" ? |
Mark:
I can't get to a photo right now but I did run my cables through the wood cross
member as shown on the plan. I did modify that slightly by drilling a hole in
the center of a delrin rod (from ACS) and make fairleads from that they were
inserted into the wood cross member. The holes in the delrin were ramped on
the ends to act more like a slick bearing surface to protect the cables as they
changed direction. They seem to work very well and the cables do not bind at
all. -Disclaimer- this modification has not experienced flight yet.
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, Kansas
N328X
>>> "Mark Roberts" <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> 4/6/2013 10:26 PM >>>
Seeings as how we all want to make Mr. Pietenpol's airplane just "that much better"
than he designed it, I am wondering how many of you have opted for running
the 1/8" elevator cables through the seat bottom cross brace as shown on the
plans, or used pulleys as I have felt inclined to do. I see a few pics from the
guys that have used pulleys, but don't remember seeing any where they drilled
holes as shown on the plans through the rear seat bottom cross member.
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum Bump |
So you were bored, Gary?
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Subject: | Do I need to sheet this with plywood? |
Looks plenty good to me Mark. I find that I place the palm of my hand just
behind the cockpit, especially when leaving, and have seen some guys sit
there, but your design would support both nicely. In my opinion.
douwe
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum Bump |
Still having post building withdrawals.
Gary
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 8, 2013, at 6:30 AM, "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> wrote:
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> So you were bored, Gary?
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> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
> Rebuilding NX899KP
> Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Hi Dick,
I think the name of the lumberyard I went to was something like
Youngblood=99s. Some one at Brodhead had told me about it saying
it was where canoe and other wood boat builders bought their lumber. It
was a lot of years ago but it seems like it was in north central area of
Minneapolis. They had just gotten in a shipment of sitka spruce and I
could pick through for what I wanted. There was very straight grain
1=9D by 6=9D (full size) boards about 16 feet long. I
hauled it on top of my Dodge caravan and had to leave my camper in my
cousins yard north of Stillwater to haul my lumber home. It is amazing
how your priorities change when you are in the early stages of airplane
construction.
Ralph
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Hi Jim,
I plan on being at Brodhead this summer. I=99ve only missed a
couple years since the mid 80s. I hope you will stop at Raymond if you
get the chance when you go through.
Ralph
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Subject: | Thrust Pull Test |
I completed the pull test on N12939 yesterday. My 3 cylinder( one
cylinder seems to be there only to make the engine look symmetrical)
A-65 with McCauley metal prop, pulled a consistent 325 lbs. A few pulls
were stronger, but 325 seemed to be consistent.
As soon as I get back from SunNFun I can ship the scale to the next
person. I truly appreciate being able to use the "Official" scale.
Thanks, Dan !!
Perry Rhoads
N12939
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum Bump |
then you should stop building posts.
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Still having post building withdrawals.
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> Gary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 8, 2013, at 6:30 AM, "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
> wrote:
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> > So you were bored, Gary?
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> > Rebuilding NX899KP
> > Austin/San Marcos, TX
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Subject: | Re: Straight Axel advise |
I have decided that the fit should be lose so as not to bind, not sure how lose
but I did find some tubing to weld into the Axel that is 1/2" diam. X .065 wall
X 7 1/4" long that seem they would work well and leave at least 2.75" travel
for the Axel. So now I need to did a bit more around the garage for the short
tubes to weld to the gear fittings.
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Pieters,
Just finished ordering my wood and plywood from Edensaw at Port Townsend ,
Wa. When I get my nails and T-88 I'll be ready for production.
Corky
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HI Ralph,
Hope to see you in Brodhead and will probably stop in Raymond as well as we usually
go to Ashton to visit family graves.
Would like to see your Piet progress.
Cheers,
Jim
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Subject: | Re: Virginia Pietenpols |
Matt, Looking forward to meeting you in the Spring. I spoke briefly with Gene (I
know him from the Flying Circus). He is planning on going to Brodhead in his
Piet (have you seen the pix on FaceBook?). I'm just a couple of hangar rows
over from his at Culpeper (KCJR).
I also heard from Zeke Zechini who keeps his Piet at White Post (3VA7) which is
just about an hour NW of Culpeper.
Anyone else got a Piet in the local area (VA, MD, WVA, DE, NC, PA)
It would be loads of fun to get together and go get a $100 hamburger somewhere.
Has anyone formed a local Piet Owners group?
Jim
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Jim McWhorter
N687MB (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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Subject: | Re: Virginia Pietenpols |
I'm a little further from Culpeper than Matt, at Smith Mountain Lake (W91).
I've flown my Piet to CJR before, to help Gene work on his. It's about a
2-1/2 hour trip.
I'm planning on making the trip to Brodhead this summer.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fun2av8
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 12:59 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Virginia Pietenpols
Matt, Looking forward to meeting you in the Spring. I spoke briefly with
Gene (I know him from the Flying Circus). He is planning on going to
Brodhead in his Piet (have you seen the pix on FaceBook?). I'm just a
couple of hangar rows over from his at Culpeper (KCJR).
I also heard from Zeke Zechini who keeps his Piet at White Post (3VA7) which
is just about an hour NW of Culpeper.
Anyone else got a Piet in the local area (VA, MD, WVA, DE, NC, PA)
It would be loads of fun to get together and go get a $100 hamburger
somewhere.
Has anyone formed a local Piet Owners group?
Jim
--------
Jim McWhorter
N687MB (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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Subject: | Re: straight axle landing gear |
Am trying to visualize how this works, so the white metal arm is free to pivot
up and back down with the axel and still prevents rotation under braking? I assume
we only need 2-3 inches of travel for the axel?
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Subject: | Re: Virginia Pietenpols |
Jim:
My dad and I have NX311GP at our strip in Strasburg (Mulberry Run, VA17).
It is slowly going back together, with a goal (maybe a bit of a stretch on
my part) of joining Gene, Jack, Matt, and the gang on their way to
Brodhead. If we can make it happen that way, it is going to be a real hoot
of a trip. By chance would you be the same Jim McWhorter who owns a Maule
in Strasburg?
Brett Phillips
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>wrote:
> jack@bedfordlandings.com>
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> I'm a little further from Culpeper than Matt, at Smith Mountain Lake (W91).
> I've flown my Piet to CJR before, to help Gene work on his. It's about a
> 2-1/2 hour trip.
>
> I'm planning on making the trip to Brodhead this summer.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fun2av8
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 12:59 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Virginia Pietenpols
>
>
> Matt, Looking forward to meeting you in the Spring. I spoke briefly with
> Gene (I know him from the Flying Circus). He is planning on going to
> Brodhead in his Piet (have you seen the pix on FaceBook?). I'm just a
> couple of hangar rows over from his at Culpeper (KCJR).
>
> I also heard from Zeke Zechini who keeps his Piet at White Post (3VA7)
> which
> is just about an hour NW of Culpeper.
>
> Anyone else got a Piet in the local area (VA, MD, WVA, DE, NC, PA)
> It would be loads of fun to get together and go get a $100 hamburger
> somewhere.
>
> Has anyone formed a local Piet Owners group?
>
> Jim
>
> --------
> Jim McWhorter
> N687MB (New Owner)
> Culpeper, VA KCJR
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398157#398157
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Subject: | Re: Straight Axel advise |
Looks like my quick email to Mike Cuy has me on a roll again. Thank you Mike.
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Subject: | Re: Do I need to sheet this with plywood? |
ace sells a streamline headrest for about
30 bucks . That is what I have on mine and it works great for a seat too. C
heers, Gardoner
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:40 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Looks plenty good to me Mark. I find that I place the palm of my hand jus
t behind the cockpit, especially when leaving, and have seen some guys sit t
here, but your design would support both nicely. In my opinion
>
> douwe
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Subject: | Wing incidence.. |
If my memory serves me correctly, you fellows have been putting in about 1/4"
incidence for the wing. In other words, the front cabanes are about 1/4" taller
than the rears, right? Please let me know as I am cutting mine today.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
SkyScout
Sent from my iPad
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Subject: | Re: Wing incidence.. |
Ray,
I'm on the road, and my memory a little fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure the front cabanes
are 1" longer than the rear.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net> wrote:
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> If my memory serves me correctly, you fellows have been putting in about 1/4"
incidence for the wing. In other words, the front cabanes are about 1/4" taller
than the rears, right? Please let me know as I am cutting mine today.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Krause
> SkyScout
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Corky,
I kinda' like the name "Corky's Rib Shack" for the title of your business.
Just a thought.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: Wing incidence.. |
Gary's memory is correct as far as the plans show. The difference is 1 inch between
the front cabanes and the rear cabanas, as shown in the snapshot from the
plans, Drawing #6.
So, Ray, do you mean an additional 1/4 inch?
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: Wing incidence.. |
Front 21-1/4 -- Rear 20-1/4 Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Krause" <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing incidence..
> <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
>
> If my memory serves me correctly, you fellows have been putting in about
> 1/4" incidence for the wing. In other words, the front cabanes are about
> 1/4" taller than the rears, right? Please let me know as I am cutting mine
> today.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Krause
> SkyScout
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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The dimentions I just sent are from the bottom bolt centerline to the top
bolt centerline. C
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From: "Ray Krause" <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing incidence..
> <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
>
> If my memory serves me correctly, you fellows have been putting in about
> 1/4" incidence for the wing. In other words, the front cabanes are about
> 1/4" taller than the rears, right? Please let me know as I am cutting mine
> today.
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> Thanks,
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> Ray Krause
> SkyScout
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Subject: | Re: Craig , new to list |
I have been scanning photos into my computer so here are a few of my new air camper
components so far. On the fuselage I have since adding the side plywood and
am currently working on my wood gear cleaning up the smoke damage and preparing
my old hardware for reuse. I will be dismantling my wire wheels and adding
grease cups, I think I will leave uncovered this time around. I need to purchase
a new Axel since my old one is bowed noticeably.
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Subject: | Re: Wing incidence.. |
Hi Ray,
The front cabanes are 1 inch longer than the rear cabane struts.
Jim
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Subject: | Thrust Pull Test |
Any idea of the diameter and pitch of the McCauley? Rpm?
Brett
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry Rhoads
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:45 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Thrust Pull Test
I completed the pull test on N12939 yesterday. My 3 cylinder( one cylinder
seems to be there only to make the engine look symmetrical) A-65 with
McCauley metal prop, pulled a consistent 325 lbs. A few pulls were stronger,
but 325 seemed to be consistent.
As soon as I get back from SunNFun I can ship the scale to the next person.
I truly appreciate being able to use the "Official" scale.
Thanks, Dan !!
Perry Rhoads
N12939
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Subject: | Re: Virginia Pietenpols |
Hey Brett, thanks for checking in. There is a Jim McWhorter with a Maule in Strasburg
VA? Now that is scary! I did have a Maule but its never been to Strasberg.
I sold it to a gentlemen in GA where she is presently living the good
life.
Hope to meet up with you guys before we go to Brodhead in July! From what I can
see - Culpeper seems to be in the middle. Its early yet - still time to see.
Jim
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Jim McWhorter
N687MB (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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Subject: | Re: worlds largest pietenpol |
UNCLASSIFIED
Paul you are confusing a fossil with the modern Piet.
That rib is actually from TyrannaPiet the much larger meat eating ancestor of the
current bird.
;+}
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On 03/31/13, nightmare
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> Someone at Tampa int'l hid this giant piet rib in plain site.
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> Started 8-3-12
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Subject: | 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In |
(If there is already a thread for this topic - please let me know and I will delete
this on and add my comments to the existing thread).
I checked the EAA Chapter 431 website - nothing posted yet for the 2013 Fly-In.
However, the 2012 info is there and doubt there would be any substantial changes
for 2013.
http://www.eaa431.org/?page_id=544
Is everyone camping?
Anyone staying at the local B&Bs?
What does one do for wheels while at the event for 3-4 days?
If you are flying your Piet in and plan on camping - where do you put your gear?
Stow it all in the front Cockpit?
Looks like food won't be an issue if they do the same this year they did last year?
Jim
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Jim McWhorter
N687MB (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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In a message dated 4/8/2013 7:25:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com writes:
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<jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
Corky,
I kinda' like the name "Corky's Rib Shack" for the title of your business.
Just a thought.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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In all my years I've probably been called everything so these new business
names are welcome.
No I'm no Semper Fi but I do go back to OCS, Ft Benning 1943
Keep those names coming, Also, if any might have an idea on the best way to
box a set of ribs for shipment lets have it.
Corky
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Subject: | Re: Corky's rib building company |
Corky; I still have your building table, complete with glue drips, a few staples
here and there, pencil notes, and the outline of an Air Camper on it. I can
take it apart, box it up, and ship it back to you with assembly instructions
;o) "Place Part 2B against Part 3A and fasten with nails" ;o)
The building table is my home workshop, in my outdoor canopy work area. I am not
permitted to make sawdust, filings, glue odors, paint overspray, or anything
else INSIDE the house or garage. On the table are a dozen clamps of various
sizes and configurations, a small bench vise, my table saw, drill press, and
belt/disc sander. There is not enough room to use all of them on any one project
at a time, so I have to move them around to use them, but a guy needs to have
a decent workbench or life is meaningless!
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: 2013 Brodhead Pietenpol Fly-In |
I'd say most camp.
I've observed most flying in to tent camp and store gear in the plane or tent.
Some folks camp near the planes, but there's a bit of an alcove across a closed
runway where there's a good sized tent camped community. There's also a rather
large contingent of motorhomes.
I've always had a car there, but really haven't needed it. There's a good pizza
joint within walking distance. My son and I camped there while ferrying our
piet through Brodhead. There was no one around, so we slept under the pavilion
and walked into town for dinner.
There's a fire pit and folks gather all over the place, it's pretty easy to get
in with a crowd for a ride into town for dinner or whatever for a little change
in pace.
Pretty laid back.
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Subject: | Re: Do I need to sheet this with plywood? |
Thanks guys!
Those pics really helped on a few levels. I get how those phenolic guides work.
I might use that idea!
Also, I don't like my elevator pivot works. Instead of using a welded set up, I
might try that delrin block idea...
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Subject: | Re: Wing incidence.. |
Thanks everyone. I am working off the SkyScout plans and it says both front and
rear cabanes are 21.25". I had not checked the Air Camper plans. My memory told
me that there had been discussion on the length and the front ones were longer.
I will go with the 1inch longer in the front... It is easier to go shorter
than longer!
Thanks for all the responses.
Ray Krause
SkyScout
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:59 PM, "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Gary's memory is correct as far as the plans show. The difference is 1 inch between
the front cabanes and the rear cabanas, as shown in the snapshot from the
plans, Drawing #6.
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> So, Ray, do you mean an additional 1/4 inch?
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> Semper Fi,
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> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: Wing incidence.. |
Ray: if you're building a Sky Scout, go by the Sky Scout plans. If you're building
an Air Camper, go by the Air Camper plans. Right-? The Sky Scout is a single-place,
the Air Camper is 2-place, tandem. Lots of other differences, but
the thing is, they aren't the same airplane.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: Wood on the Way |
Corky: I believe I still have all the tiny nails that you gave me when you were
cleaning house. You want 'em back-? Not sure I can find them in the hangar,
but given a couple of hours and a sunshiny Saturday, I'll bet I could!
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: straight axle landing gear |
The entire brake assembly is free floating on the
axle. The axle does whatever it would do if
there weren't any brakes at all. I went through
a few trees worth of paper to come up with the
position and angles that would minimize the
rotational movement of the brake assembly as
the axle goes up and down over bumps.
I don't expect to be using the brakes moving
over anything that bumpy anyway and I certainly
don't plan on hitting the brakes on touchdown! :-)
And not when moving at more than a snails pace
either. Mostly for runup and pivot turning. Just
like the Chief I presently fly. On the grass at my
strip, idle the engine and it stops pretty quick on
it's own.
This pic illustrates the main parts. The disc, of
course, bolts to the wheel hub.There is a large
bearing sheet between that and the plate on the
right shown by a thick dark line. The only things
attached to the axle are the end cap and split
collar. They hold everything in place and
alignment. Clear as mud ??? :-)
Clif
Nothing worse could happen to one than
to be completely understood.
C.G.Jung
>
> Am trying to visualize how this works, so the white metal arm is free to
> pivot up and back down with the axel and still prevents rotation under
> braking? I assume we only need 2-3 inches of travel for the axel?
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Subject: | Re: worlds largest pietenpol |
Funny, I don't remember seeing this bird in
Jurrasic Park. come to think about it I don't
remember much except rather large and
sharp teeth! :-)
Clif
Every morning in Africa a gazelle wakes up.
It knows it must run faster than the fastest
lion or it will be killed. Every morning a lion
wakes up. It knows it must run faster than
the slowest gazelle or it will starve to death.
It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or
a gazelle. When the sun comes up, you'd
better start running. African proverb
> UNCLASSIFIED
> Paul you are confusing a fossil with the modern Piet.
> That rib is actually from TyrannaPiet the much larger meat eating ancestor
> of the current bird.
> ;+}
>
> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
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