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     1. 02:55 AM - Re: More Spoked Wheel Information (bubbleboy)
     2. 04:02 AM - Re: More Spoked Wheel Information (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
     3. 04:13 AM - Re: More Spoked Wheel Information (bubbleboy)
     4. 04:55 AM - Re: Covering question (Hans van der Voort)
     5. 05:21 AM - Color scheme (Douwe Blumberg)
     6. 05:21 AM - Re: Covering question (Jack)
     7. 05:24 AM - Wheel weights (Douwe Blumberg)
     8. 05:55 AM - Re: "Re-PIET" tire change (Mario Giacummo)
     9. 06:17 AM - Final assembly! (Chris Rusch)
    10. 06:46 AM - Re: Final assembly! (helspersew@aol.com)
    11. 06:50 AM - Chris Rusch final assembly (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    12. 07:04 AM - Re: Final assembly! (Jack)
    13. 07:24 AM - Re: Chris Rusch final assembly (Chris Rusch)
    14. 07:51 AM - Re: Final assembly! (Craig Aho)
    15. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: welding.so easy a 12 year old could do it (Brett Phillips)
    16. 09:14 AM - Re: satellite tracking devices (Fun2av8)
    17. 09:21 AM - Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Fun2av8)
    18. 09:28 AM - Re: Final assembly! (Michael Perez)
    19. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Marcus Zechini)
    20. 01:32 PM - Re: More Spoked Wheel Information (K5YAC)
    21. 04:39 PM - Re: SNF (Dick N)
    22. 10:14 PM - Re: Final assembly! (biplan53)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: More Spoked Wheel Information | 
      
      
      I have the exact same Perkins and Sun rim setup. With the Perkin hubs, do the two
      welded flanges with the spoke holes run true when spun? My wheels run true
      but the flanges were not welded straight and wobble when spun. I bought Kens spacers
      and brake discs too so the discs wobble as well. Do yours do this?
      
      Scotty
      
      --------
      Tamworth, Australia
      Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
      
      www.scottyspietenpol.com
      
      Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage & undercarriage...Corvair engine at
      Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398497#398497
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: More Spoked Wheel Information | 
      
      
      I was just in Kansas City a couple if days ago and I dropped by Ken Perkins machine
      shop (his basement is a fully equipped machine shop).  I picked up a pair
      of hubs from him and got a tour. He showed me how he made the hubs. I inspected
      mine and they appear to run true. 
      I would give Ken a call and see if he could help you out.
      
      --------
      Curt Merdan
      Flower Mound, TX
      
      Do Not Archive
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398499#398499
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: More Spoked Wheel Information | 
      
      
      Thanks Curt...I will do that.
      
      Scotty
      
      --------
      Tamworth, Australia
      Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
      
      www.scottyspietenpol.com
      
      Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage & undercarriage...Corvair engine at
      Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398500#398500
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Covering question | 
      
      Jack,=0A-=0AI have only experience with the Polyfiber process, where you 
      shrink every thing first, max allowable heat.-=0AThen use Polybrush (not 
      glue) to add another patch on top.=0AAfter all layers of Polybrush you cut 
      the slit.=0A-=0APolybrush is the coat that fills the weave.=0A-=0AIf yo
      u want a better more stable slit, make a thin aluminum pre-slotted sheet pa
      tch-and use that between fabric and fabric patch.=0A-=0AHans=0A-=0ANX
      15KV=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Jack T. Textor <jte
      xtor@thepalmergroup.com>=0ATo: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > =0ASent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:00 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Cove
      ring question=0A  =0A=0AI need to cut the slit for the trim tab rod and won
      dering if the fabric will be stable enough as is. I've done the first shrin
      k and added the pre-shrunk patch under the top fabric. I used the clear 3m 
      cement. I need to fashion some sort of an exit cover for the top. Should I 
      put another patch on the top and or the exit cover before cutting the slit?
      =0AThanks!=0AJack
      
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      WHAT!!!!!
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Covering question | 
      
      Great idea Hans thanks
      
      Sent from my iPad
      Jack Textor
      
      On Apr 12, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Hans van der Voort <nx15kv@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > Jack,
      >  
      > I have only experience with the Polyfiber process, where you shrink every t
      hing first, max allowable heat. 
      > Then use Polybrush (not glue) to add another patch on top.
      > After all layers of Polybrush you cut the slit.
      >  
      > Polybrush is the coat that fills the weave.
      >  
      > If you want a better more stable slit, make a thin aluminum pre-slotted sh
      eet patch and use that between fabric and fabric patch.
      >  
      > Hans
      >  
      > NX15KV
      > 
      > From: Jack T. Textor <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
      > To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> 
      > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:00 PM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Covering question
      > 
      > I need to cut the slit for the trim tab rod and wondering if the fabric wi
      ll be stable enough as is. I've done the first shrink and added the pre-shru
      nk patch under the top fabric. I used the clear 3m cement. I need to fashion
       some sort of an exit cover for the top. Should I put another patch on the t
      op and or the exit cover before cutting the slit?
      > Thanks!
      > Jack
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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      I've weighed a few sets of wire wheels ready to install and depending g on brakes,
      they ranged from 18 to 23 ish lbs. mine are around 20 because drum brake,
      22inch and steel rim
      
      Douwe
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: "Re-PIET" tire change | 
      
      Douwe, how did you do the muffler/silencer?.. the lenght of the exaust tube
      plus the silencer what is it?. and what engine you have? the lenght and
      diameter is in relation with the displacement of the engine, isn't it?..
      
      Regards
      
      Mario Giacummo
      . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /
      ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .
      
      
      2013/4/9 Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
      
      >
      > Well, my supercool (to my eye anyway) gray tires started cracking too much
      > for comfort.  Gray rubber is old fashioned natural rubber and being
      > non-vulcanized, cracks like old fashioned tires did.  These kept cracking
      > along the seam though, so the tire company very kindly exchanged them for a
      > black set, which won't have any of those problems.
      >
      > Just put them on, and it's she kinda looks different.
      >
      > Supposed I'll get used to it!
      >
      > Douwe
      >
      >
      
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      Everything is going back together nicely..... It's really exciting now
      
      --------
      NX321LR
      Fully Assembled
      Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
      Wings covered and primed, one painted
      Mitsubishi Powered
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398506#398506
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_734.jpg
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| Subject:  | Re: Final assembly! | 
      
      
      Wow Chris, awesome! Very exciting!
      
      Dan Helsper
      Puryear, TN
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Chris Rusch <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com>
      Sent: Fri, Apr 12, 2013 8:17 am
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Final assembly!
      
      
      >
      
      Everything is going back together nicely..... It's really exciting now
      
      --------
      NX321LR
      Fully Assembled
      Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
      Wings covered and primed, one painted
      Mitsubishi Powered
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398506#398506
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_734.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_208.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Chris Rusch final assembly | 
      
      
      Chris---what a gorgeous looking airplane you have there!     You're the first one
      with the olive drab US Army Air Corps
      paint scheme that I've seen and it looks great.   Your workmanship looks to be
      first class.  Thank you for sharing some photos. 
      
      Will your radiator for your Mitsubishi engine be in the traditional Ford A location?
      
      Looks like you've adopted or fabricated a gear reduction drive up front.   Are
      they using these engine in other homebuilts that
      you know of?
      
      Great to see your progress!
      
      Mike C.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Final assembly! | 
      
      
      Wow holy cow Chris looks great!
      
      Sent from my iPad
      Jack Textor
      
      On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Everything is going back together nicely..... It's really exciting now
      > 
      > --------
      > NX321LR
      > Fully Assembled
      > Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
      > Wings covered and primed, one painted
      > Mitsubishi Powered
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398506#398506
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Attachments: 
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      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_734.jpg
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| Subject:  | Re: Chris Rusch final assembly | 
      
      
      Thanks! I have to say this site has been a huge inspiration to keep pushing forward,
      i look forward to seeing what everybody is up to and how everyone else solves
      the issues that come up. 
      Nobody has used this engine to my knowledge, it my modern version of a model "A"......well
      see, remember its  "Experimental Aviation"
      The unit up front is a external bearing hub with isolator bushings between the
      crank and prop, hopefully removing all of the torsional vibration as well as thrust
      loads. This unit also houses the starter ring..Im using a harley davidson
      starter and ring gear, spinns it over like butter.
      I know Jack is painting his a similar green, so i cant wait to see them both together.
      
      --------
      NX321LR
      Fully Assembled
      Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
      Wings covered and primed, one painted
      Mitsubishi Powered
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398511#398511
      
      
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      Wow this is awesome=2C man look at the creativity involved=2C the clever an
      ti torque setup and the nice wheels=2C very interesting engine setup=2C the
       color you chose=2C wow. Ok I need to calm down a bit I'm not the young any
      more. Man I have got to get over to Broadhead only I worry the excitment mi
      ght kill me.:) Craig
       > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Final assembly!
      > From: rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com
      > Date: Fri=2C 12 Apr 2013 06:16:20 -0700
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > 
      om>
      > 
      > Everything is going back together nicely..... It's really exciting now
      > 
      > --------
      > NX321LR
      > Fully Assembled
      > Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
      > Wings covered and primed=2C one painted
      > Mitsubishi Powered
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398506#398506
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Attachments: 
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_734.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_208.jpg
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| Subject:  | Re: welding.so easy a 12 year old could do it | 
      
      
      Paul:
        A lot depends on your line of work. I'm a project manager/halfass engineer at
      a fabrication and machine shop and its handy to be able to test your own welders
      and develop new welding procedures as projects come along. Right now I'm gearing
      up to do some armor plate work. In a month we might be working with thin
      titanium...
        The CWI's who do the best for themselves are the ones with NDT certs who don't
      mind living on the road. 
      
      Brett
      Do Not Archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: satellite tracking devices | 
      
      
      I have played with the Spot Connect and the bottom line is I really like it,  I
      have road tested and tracking seems to be spot on.
      
      If you would like to see how it tracks, click on this link
      http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0K6TAxD2OiYyXcq0LJiRi2yTofX5bgeVj
      
      This is the same link you can come back to and follow Mr Sam from Sarasota to Culpeper
      this weekend.
      
      Cheers
      
      --------
      Jim McWhorter
      N687MB (New Owner)
      Culpeper, VA  KCJR
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398515#398515
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam | 
      
      
      Well the adventure has begun.  Sitting in the B Concourse at IAD waiting for my
      flight to SRQ.  Chuck Tippet is already down there and we will look at the airplane
      tomorrow morning.  Andrew King called Chuck and told him all about Mr.
      Sam.  Andrew has over 80 hours in this Piet.  He flew it when it had the Ford
      engine and after the conversion to a Cont O-200.  He has high praise for the airplane.
      Makes feel so much better about the buy.
      
      If you would like to follow the adventure as it unfolds this weekend, Click on
      this link, scroll down to Florida and you see the pin drops.  I will turn on the
      Spot Connect as soon as I land tonight in SRQ. 
      
      http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0K6TAxD2OiYyXcq0LJiRi2yTofX5bgeVj
      
      --------
      Jim McWhorter
      N687MB (New Owner)
      Culpeper, VA  KCJR
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398516#398516
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Final assembly! | 
      
      I love the color and the paint scheme! You'll give all those black and yellow "German"
      planes a good run for their money.
      
      Michael Perez
      
      Pietenpol HINT Videos
      
      Karetaker Aero
      
      www.karetakeraero.com
      
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| Subject:  | Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam | 
      
      Awesome! Super fun people involved. In DTW at moment, on way to IAD..  Need
      to see Chuck....may fly Piet to CJR soon!
      On Apr 12, 2013 12:24 PM, "Fun2av8" <iflyga@fun2av8.com> wrote:
      
      >
      > Well the adventure has begun.  Sitting in the B Concourse at IAD waiting
      > for my flight to SRQ.  Chuck Tippet is already down there and we will look
      > at the airplane tomorrow morning.  Andrew King called Chuck and told him
      > all about Mr. Sam.  Andrew has over 80 hours in this Piet.  He flew it when
      > it had the Ford engine and after the conversion to a Cont O-200.  He has
      > high praise for the airplane.  Makes feel so much better about the buy.
      >
      > If you would like to follow the adventure as it unfolds this weekend,
      > Click on this link, scroll down to Florida and you see the pin drops.  I
      > will turn on the Spot Connect as soon as I land tonight in SRQ.
      >
      >
      > http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0K6TAxD2OiYyXcq0LJiRi2yTofX5bgeVj
      >
      > --------
      > Jim McWhorter
      > N687MB (New Owner)
      > Culpeper, VA  KCJR
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398516#398516
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: More Spoked Wheel Information | 
      
      
      Honestly, I have not had a chance to spin mine at all.  My friend trued them on
      his truing rig and made no mention of any wobble.  I guess I'll see in the coming
      weeks.  
      
      Hope he will fix you up!
      
      --------
      Mark Chouinard
      Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398523#398523
      
      
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      Hi Barry 
      Sorry to hear about your Dad, I will send everyone Hello from you.
      Dick N.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Barry Davis 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:18 AM
        Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: SNF
      
      
        Dick
      
        My Dad broke his hip Friday and I have been busy with the surgery and 
      hospital. I wish I could be there. Tell Skip, PF and the guys hello for 
      me.
      
        Barry Davis
      
        NX973BP
      
         
      
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick N
        Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:15 PM
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: SNF
      
         
      
        Hey ya'all
      
        Hi from SNF, hope you can make it down here, weather is beautiful.  We 
      are building a Pietenpol fuselage and wing ribs in the wood shop this 
      year it is going really good.  So far Skip Gadd, Ben Chevranet and I are 
      working every day.  John Hoffman and his wife stopped by today, I will 
      be looking for Perry Rhodes we all hope more of you can make it down 
      here.
      
        Later
      
        Dick N.
      
      
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      Man that is lookin good. What engine is that? I was wondering if it is a Honda?
      
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