---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/12/13: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:55 AM - Re: More Spoked Wheel Information (bubbleboy) 2. 04:02 AM - Re: More Spoked Wheel Information (curtdm(at)gmail.com) 3. 04:13 AM - Re: More Spoked Wheel Information (bubbleboy) 4. 04:55 AM - Re: Covering question (Hans van der Voort) 5. 05:21 AM - Color scheme (Douwe Blumberg) 6. 05:21 AM - Re: Covering question (Jack) 7. 05:24 AM - Wheel weights (Douwe Blumberg) 8. 05:55 AM - Re: "Re-PIET" tire change (Mario Giacummo) 9. 06:17 AM - Final assembly! (Chris Rusch) 10. 06:46 AM - Re: Final assembly! (helspersew@aol.com) 11. 06:50 AM - Chris Rusch final assembly (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 12. 07:04 AM - Re: Final assembly! (Jack) 13. 07:24 AM - Re: Chris Rusch final assembly (Chris Rusch) 14. 07:51 AM - Re: Final assembly! (Craig Aho) 15. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: welding.so easy a 12 year old could do it (Brett Phillips) 16. 09:14 AM - Re: satellite tracking devices (Fun2av8) 17. 09:21 AM - Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Fun2av8) 18. 09:28 AM - Re: Final assembly! (Michael Perez) 19. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Marcus Zechini) 20. 01:32 PM - Re: More Spoked Wheel Information (K5YAC) 21. 04:39 PM - Re: SNF (Dick N) 22. 10:14 PM - Re: Final assembly! (biplan53) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:07 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Spoked Wheel Information From: "bubbleboy" I have the exact same Perkins and Sun rim setup. With the Perkin hubs, do the two welded flanges with the spoke holes run true when spun? My wheels run true but the flanges were not welded straight and wobble when spun. I bought Kens spacers and brake discs too so the discs wobble as well. Do yours do this? Scotty -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage & undercarriage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398497#398497 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:35 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Spoked Wheel Information From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" I was just in Kansas City a couple if days ago and I dropped by Ken Perkins machine shop (his basement is a fully equipped machine shop). I picked up a pair of hubs from him and got a tour. He showed me how he made the hubs. I inspected mine and they appear to run true. I would give Ken a call and see if he could help you out. -------- Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398499#398499 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:25 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Spoked Wheel Information From: "bubbleboy" Thanks Curt...I will do that. Scotty -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage & undercarriage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398500#398500 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:48 AM PST US From: Hans van der Voort Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Covering question Jack,=0A-=0AI have only experience with the Polyfiber process, where you shrink every thing first, max allowable heat.-=0AThen use Polybrush (not glue) to add another patch on top.=0AAfter all layers of Polybrush you cut the slit.=0A-=0APolybrush is the coat that fills the weave.=0A-=0AIf yo u want a better more stable slit, make a thin aluminum pre-slotted sheet pa tch-and use that between fabric and fabric patch.=0A-=0AHans=0A-=0ANX 15KV=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Jack T. Textor =0ATo: Pietenpol List =0ASent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:00 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Cove ring question=0A =0A=0AI need to cut the slit for the trim tab rod and won dering if the fabric will be stable enough as is. I've done the first shrin k and added the pre-shrunk patch under the top fabric. I used the clear 3m cement. I need to fashion some sort of an exit cover for the top. Should I put another patch on the top and or the exit cover before cutting the slit? =0AThanks!=0AJack ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:41 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Color scheme From: Douwe Blumberg WHAT!!!!! Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Covering question From: Jack Great idea Hans thanks Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Apr 12, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Hans van der Voort wrote: > Jack, > > I have only experience with the Polyfiber process, where you shrink every t hing first, max allowable heat. > Then use Polybrush (not glue) to add another patch on top. > After all layers of Polybrush you cut the slit. > > Polybrush is the coat that fills the weave. > > If you want a better more stable slit, make a thin aluminum pre-slotted sh eet patch and use that between fabric and fabric patch. > > Hans > > NX15KV > > From: Jack T. Textor > To: Pietenpol List > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:00 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Covering question > > I need to cut the slit for the trim tab rod and wondering if the fabric wi ll be stable enough as is. I've done the first shrink and added the pre-shru nk patch under the top fabric. I used the clear 3m cement. I need to fashion some sort of an exit cover for the top. Should I put another patch on the t op and or the exit cover before cutting the slit? > Thanks! > Jack > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:34 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wheel weights From: Douwe Blumberg I've weighed a few sets of wire wheels ready to install and depending g on brakes, they ranged from 18 to 23 ish lbs. mine are around 20 because drum brake, 22inch and steel rim Douwe Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:07 AM PST US From: Mario Giacummo Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: "Re-PIET" tire change Douwe, how did you do the muffler/silencer?.. the lenght of the exaust tube plus the silencer what is it?. and what engine you have? the lenght and diameter is in relation with the displacement of the engine, isn't it?.. Regards Mario Giacummo . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- / ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - . 2013/4/9 Douwe Blumberg > > Well, my supercool (to my eye anyway) gray tires started cracking too much > for comfort. Gray rubber is old fashioned natural rubber and being > non-vulcanized, cracks like old fashioned tires did. These kept cracking > along the seam though, so the tire company very kindly exchanged them for a > black set, which won't have any of those problems. > > Just put them on, and it's she kinda looks different. > > Supposed I'll get used to it! > > Douwe > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:13 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Final assembly! From: "Chris Rusch" Everything is going back together nicely..... It's really exciting now -------- NX321LR Fully Assembled Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. Wings covered and primed, one painted Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398506#398506 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_734.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_208.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:29 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Final assembly! From: helspersew@aol.com Wow Chris, awesome! Very exciting! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Chris Rusch Sent: Fri, Apr 12, 2013 8:17 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Final assembly! > Everything is going back together nicely..... It's really exciting now -------- NX321LR Fully Assembled Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. Wings covered and primed, one painted Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398506#398506 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_734.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_208.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:32 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Chris Rusch final assembly Chris---what a gorgeous looking airplane you have there! You're the first one with the olive drab US Army Air Corps paint scheme that I've seen and it looks great. Your workmanship looks to be first class. Thank you for sharing some photos. Will your radiator for your Mitsubishi engine be in the traditional Ford A location? Looks like you've adopted or fabricated a gear reduction drive up front. Are they using these engine in other homebuilts that you know of? Great to see your progress! Mike C. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:04:39 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Final assembly! From: Jack Wow holy cow Chris looks great! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:16 AM, "Chris Rusch" wrote: > > Everything is going back together nicely..... It's really exciting now > > -------- > NX321LR > Fully Assembled > Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. > Wings covered and primed, one painted > Mitsubishi Powered > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398506#398506 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_734.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_208.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:54 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Chris Rusch final assembly From: "Chris Rusch" Thanks! I have to say this site has been a huge inspiration to keep pushing forward, i look forward to seeing what everybody is up to and how everyone else solves the issues that come up. Nobody has used this engine to my knowledge, it my modern version of a model "A"......well see, remember its "Experimental Aviation" The unit up front is a external bearing hub with isolator bushings between the crank and prop, hopefully removing all of the torsional vibration as well as thrust loads. This unit also houses the starter ring..Im using a harley davidson starter and ring gear, spinns it over like butter. I know Jack is painting his a similar green, so i cant wait to see them both together. -------- NX321LR Fully Assembled Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. Wings covered and primed, one painted Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398511#398511 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:50 AM PST US From: Craig Aho Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Final assembly! Wow this is awesome=2C man look at the creativity involved=2C the clever an ti torque setup and the nice wheels=2C very interesting engine setup=2C the color you chose=2C wow. Ok I need to calm down a bit I'm not the young any more. Man I have got to get over to Broadhead only I worry the excitment mi ght kill me.:) Craig > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Final assembly! > From: rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com > Date: Fri=2C 12 Apr 2013 06:16:20 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > om> > > Everything is going back together nicely..... It's really exciting now > > -------- > NX321LR > Fully Assembled > Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted. > Wings covered and primed=2C one painted > Mitsubishi Powered > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398506#398506 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_734.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_208.jpg > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:05 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: welding.so easy a 12 year old could do it From: Brett Phillips Paul: A lot depends on your line of work. I'm a project manager/halfass engineer at a fabrication and machine shop and its handy to be able to test your own welders and develop new welding procedures as projects come along. Right now I'm gearing up to do some armor plate work. In a month we might be working with thin titanium... The CWI's who do the best for themselves are the ones with NDT certs who don't mind living on the road. Brett Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:14:35 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: satellite tracking devices From: "Fun2av8" I have played with the Spot Connect and the bottom line is I really like it, I have road tested and tracking seems to be spot on. If you would like to see how it tracks, click on this link http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0K6TAxD2OiYyXcq0LJiRi2yTofX5bgeVj This is the same link you can come back to and follow Mr Sam from Sarasota to Culpeper this weekend. Cheers -------- Jim McWhorter N687MB (New Owner) Culpeper, VA KCJR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398515#398515 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:21:33 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam From: "Fun2av8" Well the adventure has begun. Sitting in the B Concourse at IAD waiting for my flight to SRQ. Chuck Tippet is already down there and we will look at the airplane tomorrow morning. Andrew King called Chuck and told him all about Mr. Sam. Andrew has over 80 hours in this Piet. He flew it when it had the Ford engine and after the conversion to a Cont O-200. He has high praise for the airplane. Makes feel so much better about the buy. If you would like to follow the adventure as it unfolds this weekend, Click on this link, scroll down to Florida and you see the pin drops. I will turn on the Spot Connect as soon as I land tonight in SRQ. http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0K6TAxD2OiYyXcq0LJiRi2yTofX5bgeVj -------- Jim McWhorter N687MB (New Owner) Culpeper, VA KCJR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398516#398516 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:28:29 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Final assembly! I love the color and the paint scheme! You'll give all those black and yellow "German" planes a good run for their money. Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:10:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam From: Marcus Zechini Awesome! Super fun people involved. In DTW at moment, on way to IAD.. Need to see Chuck....may fly Piet to CJR soon! On Apr 12, 2013 12:24 PM, "Fun2av8" wrote: > > Well the adventure has begun. Sitting in the B Concourse at IAD waiting > for my flight to SRQ. Chuck Tippet is already down there and we will look > at the airplane tomorrow morning. Andrew King called Chuck and told him > all about Mr. Sam. Andrew has over 80 hours in this Piet. He flew it when > it had the Ford engine and after the conversion to a Cont O-200. He has > high praise for the airplane. Makes feel so much better about the buy. > > If you would like to follow the adventure as it unfolds this weekend, > Click on this link, scroll down to Florida and you see the pin drops. I > will turn on the Spot Connect as soon as I land tonight in SRQ. > > > http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0K6TAxD2OiYyXcq0LJiRi2yTofX5bgeVj > > -------- > Jim McWhorter > N687MB (New Owner) > Culpeper, VA KCJR > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398516#398516 > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:32:09 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Spoked Wheel Information From: "K5YAC" Honestly, I have not had a chance to spin mine at all. My friend trued them on his truing rig and made no mention of any wobble. I guess I'll see in the coming weeks. Hope he will fix you up! -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398523#398523 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:39:13 PM PST US From: "Dick N" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: SNF Hi Barry Sorry to hear about your Dad, I will send everyone Hello from you. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Barry Davis To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:18 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: SNF Dick My Dad broke his hip Friday and I have been busy with the surgery and hospital. I wish I could be there. Tell Skip, PF and the guys hello for me. Barry Davis NX973BP From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick N Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:15 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: SNF Hey ya'all Hi from SNF, hope you can make it down here, weather is beautiful. We are building a Pietenpol fuselage and wing ribs in the wood shop this year it is going really good. So far Skip Gadd, Ben Chevranet and I are working every day. John Hoffman and his wife stopped by today, I will be looking for Perry Rhodes we all hope more of you can make it down here. Later Dick N. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:14:00 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Final assembly! From: "biplan53" Man that is lookin good. What engine is that? I was wondering if it is a Honda? -------- Building steel fuselage aircamper. 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