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1. 07:12 AM - Chris's final assembly (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 07:19 AM - exhaust set up (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 01:43 PM - ashes... (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 02:48 PM - Re: ashes... (Ray Krause)
5. 02:56 PM - Re: ashes... (Ken Bickers)
6. 02:59 PM - Re: ashes... (Marcus Zechini)
7. 03:11 PM - Re: ashes... (Jack)
8. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: More Spoked Wheel Information (Dick N)
9. 04:23 PM - Re: ashes... (Steve Emo)
10. 04:50 PM - Re: ashes... (Greg Cardinal)
11. 04:50 PM - Re: ashes... (Gary Boothe)
12. 05:43 PM - Re: ashes... (Ryan M)
13. 07:23 PM - Re: ashes... (Ray Krause)
14. 07:28 PM - Re: ashes... (tools)
15. 08:38 PM - Re: ashes... (V Groah)
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| Subject: | Chris's final assembly |
That is going to be one AWESOME Piet Chris!!
Love the pics.
Douwe
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Hi Mario!
The engine is a C-90. Each bank of cylinders exhausts down into the
cigar-shaped thing. The cigar-shaped thing is a combination muffler and
heat muff. The front half is a heat muff for carb heat on one side and
cabin heat on the other, and the back half is just a small muffler. They
are wrapped in exhaust wrap to help keep the inside temps up since they are
directly behind the prop blast. The long exhaust pipes are simply exhaust
pipes. There was no scientific calculation for either the length or the
diameter, just tried to keep the opening the same as what was on the engine
originally.
Douwe
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Hello all,
Well, of course what follows is all hypothetical.
IF the man who was my surrogate dad and mentor; the man who taught me art
and helped me fall in love with model airplanes and antique airplanes died.
And IF we had agreed that I'd scatter his ashes from the Pietenpol, and IF I
had kept his ashes for three years while I finished the plane, and and IF
the Pietenpol was finally flying.
Any ideas as to how one would scatter ashes from an open cockpit plane
without getting them in your face or all over the airplane?
Of course, because of numerous legal and environmental issues I would never
actually do this,, but IF I hypothetically wanted to.
How would I do it?
Open to ideas.
Douwe
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I know you just can't throw them out the door of a 172...... , the ashes all
end up back in the cabin! Then what? You have a permanent passenger. It d
oes work to place the ashes in a long tube of fabric, let it flop outside th
e door about 6 feet, then pull the rip cord to untie the far end.
It also works to place the ashes in the hopper of a crop duster!
We have the Sutter Buttes just 5 miles from the airport and receive lots of r
equests. I think the ashes should always be released in an highly fragile co
ntainer, heavy enough to drop and miss the tail! Would hate to loose my tai
l in the process!
Ray Krause
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On Apr 13, 2013, at 1:43 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Hello all,
>
> Well, of course what follows is all hypothetical
>
> IF the man who was my surrogate dad and mentor; the man who taught me art a
nd helped me fall in love with model airplanes and antique airplanes died. A
nd IF we had agreed that I=99d scatter his ashes from the Pietenpol, a
nd IF I had kept his ashes for three years while I finished the plane, and a
nd IF the Pietenpol was finally flying
>
> Any ideas as to how one would scatter ashes from an open cockpit plane wit
hout getting them in your face or all over the airplane?
>
> Of course, because of numerous legal and environmental issues I would neve
r actually do this,, but IF I hypothetically wanted to
>
> How would I do it?
>
> Open to ideas.
>
> Douwe
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Douwe, there's a guy operating out of the Longmont airport that offers this s
ervice in Colorado. Google Mark Arnold with some appropriate key words. You'
ll find a description of his techniques and preferred weather conditions. It
is more involved than I would have guessed. My best, Ken
On Apr 13, 2013, at 3:43 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Hello all,
>
> Well, of course what follows is all hypothetical
>
> IF the man who was my surrogate dad and mentor; the man who taught me art a
nd helped me fall in love with model airplanes and antique airplanes died. A
nd IF we had agreed that I=99d scatter his ashes from the Pietenpol, a
nd IF I had kept his ashes for three years while I finished the plane, and a
nd IF the Pietenpol was finally flying
>
> Any ideas as to how one would scatter ashes from an open cockpit plane wit
hout getting them in your face or all over the airplane?
>
> Of course, because of numerous legal and environmental issues I would neve
r actually do this,, but IF I hypothetically wanted to
>
> How would I do it?
>
> Open to ideas.
>
> Douwe
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Do you have controls in front and capable check pilot?
On Apr 13, 2013 4:45 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Hello all,****
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> ** **
>
> Well, of course what follows is all hypothetical=85****
>
> ** **
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> IF the man who was my surrogate dad and mentor; the man who taught me art
> and helped me fall in love with model airplanes and antique airplanes
> died. And IF we had agreed that I=92d scatter his ashes from the Pietenp
ol,
> and IF I had kept his ashes for three years while I finished the plane, a
nd
> and IF the Pietenpol was finally flying=85****
>
> ** **
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> Any ideas as to how one would scatter ashes from an open cockpit plane
> without getting them in your face or all over the airplane?****
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> ** **
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> Of course, because of numerous legal and environmental issues I would
> never actually do this,, but IF I hypothetically wanted to=85 ****
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> ** **
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> How would I do it?****
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> Open to ideas.****
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> Douwe****
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Douwe hypothetically I'm sorry for your loss, truly...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Apr 13, 2013, at 3:43 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Hello all,
>
> Well, of course what follows is all hypothetical
>
> IF the man who was my surrogate dad and mentor; the man who taught me art a
nd helped me fall in love with model airplanes and antique airplanes died. A
nd IF we had agreed that I=99d scatter his ashes from the Pietenpol, a
nd IF I had kept his ashes for three years while I finished the plane, and a
nd IF the Pietenpol was finally flying
>
> Any ideas as to how one would scatter ashes from an open cockpit plane wit
hout getting them in your face or all over the airplane?
>
> Of course, because of numerous legal and environmental issues I would neve
r actually do this,, but IF I hypothetically wanted to
>
> How would I do it?
>
> Open to ideas.
>
> Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: More Spoked Wheel Information |
Hi Mike
You are right about my wheels on the new Piet, I belive I weighed them at 27
lbs ea side, thats wheel tire tube, and brake rotor and caliper. My new Piet
is 810 lbs. and they are just fine.
Later
Dick N.
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From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:58 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Spoked Wheel Information
>
> Just for the data point, I'll post the weight of mine (as a new one is on
> the way right now) in a couple days.
>
> Mine are 21x2.15 40 spoke, one disc front harley wheels (post 2000 I
> think...). They're available all day long, hubs, spokes, rim, tire and
> tube on ebay for about $150 ea. The one I just ordered was $120 shipped.
> I think they're stock items and guys upgrade to more spokes a lot.
>
> Many think the 4 1/2 hub may not be strong enough, but it sure seems to
> be. Well suited for disc brakes, look nice, certainly worth considering.
>
> Pretty sure Dick N has the same wheels on his Rotec powered Piet, which is
> a higher powered and heavier plane yet.
>
> Pretty sure they're a lot heavier than 17lbs though...
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398454#398454
>
>
>
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There is a rig here the guys use. It is a plastic tube with a release door.
They tie/strap the tube to the struts then activate the release door from t
he cockpit with a pull wire.
Works good.
Steve
On Apr 13, 2013, at 4:43 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Hello all,
>
> Well, of course what follows is all hypothetical
>
> IF the man who was my surrogate dad and mentor; the man who taught me art a
nd helped me fall in love with model airplanes and antique airplanes died. A
nd IF we had agreed that I=99d scatter his ashes from the Pietenpol, a
nd IF I had kept his ashes for three years while I finished the plane, and a
nd IF the Pietenpol was finally flying
>
> Any ideas as to how one would scatter ashes from an open cockpit plane wit
hout getting them in your face or all over the airplane?
>
> Of course, because of numerous legal and environmental issues I would neve
r actually do this,, but IF I hypothetically wanted to
>
> How would I do it?
>
> Open to ideas.
>
> Douwe
>
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Douwe,
There are some good ideas here:
http://www.backcountrypilot.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7642
Greg Cardinal
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From: Douwe Blumberg
To: pietenpolgroup
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 3:43 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ashes...
Hello all,
Well, of course what follows is all hypothetical.
IF the man who was my surrogate dad and mentor; the man who taught me
art and helped me fall in love with model airplanes and antique
airplanes died. And IF we had agreed that I'd scatter his ashes from
the Pietenpol, and IF I had kept his ashes for three years while I
finished the plane, and and IF the Pietenpol was finally flying.
Any ideas as to how one would scatter ashes from an open cockpit plane
without getting them in your face or all over the airplane?
Of course, because of numerous legal and environmental issues I would
never actually do this,, but IF I hypothetically wanted to.
How would I do it?
Open to ideas.
Douwe
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Douwe,
Looks like you have some good recommendations. I have a similar
hypothetical commitment concerning my father, and would be interested in
hearing what you would do, hypothetically, of course. I had envisioned
just reaching as far over the side as possible, allowing the urn to open
and the ashes to stream behindmaybe loosely tie the lid to the
base so that it did not fall indiscriminately on the head of some poor
chipmunk sitting comfortably in a pine tree in western Montana.
You may have already received better ideas than I did from my airport
=9Cbuddies=9D, some 40+ years ago, concerning my
friend=99s grandmother. =98They=99 said that the deed
is legal if one is beyond 5 miles from the coastline, and also suggested
slowing to near stall speed.
I did not like flying over the Pacific ocean in my T-craft, so may have
cut that 5 miles in halfor less
I did not like slowing to near stall speed out over the water
I did not like that my passenger fumbled the shoe box, trying to work it
out of the small sliding windows, allowing the lid to come off
prematurely, upon which a large part of grandma ended up in the
cabin
I especially did not like that I inhaled enough of grandma to make me
gag and cough
Overall, it was an unpleasant experience, speaking for myself, but I
don=99t think my passenger/friend enjoyed it either, as he
immediately got sick. Fortunately, I carried an empty milk carton in the
baggage compartment, for just such an occasion, and he promptly emptied
from his stomach what was left of breakfastmostly eggs and
bacon, as I recall. That was followed by a lively discussion about what
to do with the partially filled container, and its putrid contents. I
was loath to try the window idea again, and he was too afraid to even
try to open the door. First =93 Slow to near stall speed.
Most importantly, you have my most sincere sympathies, as I am sure you
think of your mentor often.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray
Krause
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ashes...
I know you just can't throw them out the door of a 172...... , the ashes
all end up back in the cabin! Then what? You have a permanent
passenger. It does work to place the ashes in a long tube of fabric,
let it flop outside the door about 6 feet, then pull the rip cord to
untie the far end.
It also works to place the ashes in the hopper of a crop duster!
We have the Sutter Buttes just 5 miles from the airport and receive lots
of requests. I think the ashes should always be released in an highly
fragile container, heavy enough to drop and miss the tail! Would hate
to loose my tail in the process!
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 13, 2013, at 1:43 PM, "Douwe Blumberg"
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hello all,
Well, of course what follows is all hypothetical
IF the man who was my surrogate dad and mentor; the man who taught me
art and helped me fall in love with model airplanes and antique
airplanes died. And IF we had agreed that I=99d scatter his ashes
from the Pietenpol, and IF I had kept his ashes for three years while I
finished the plane, and and IF the Pietenpol was finally flying
Any ideas as to how one would scatter ashes from an open cockpit plane
without getting them in your face or all over the airplane?
Of course, because of numerous legal and environmental issues I would
never actually do this,, but IF I hypothetically wanted to
How would I do it?
Open to ideas.
Douwe
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What an honor, spread me over a grass runway when it's my time.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 13, 2013, at 4:43 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Hello all,
>
> Well, of course what follows is all hypothetical
>
> IF the man who was my surrogate dad and mentor; the man who taught me art a
nd helped me fall in love with model airplanes and antique airplanes died. A
nd IF we had agreed that I=99d scatter his ashes from the Pietenpol, a
nd IF I had kept his ashes for three years while I finished the plane, and a
nd IF the Pietenpol was finally flying
>
> Any ideas as to how one would scatter ashes from an open cockpit plane wit
hout getting them in your face or all over the airplane?
>
> Of course, because of numerous legal and environmental issues I would neve
r actually do this,, but IF I hypothetically wanted to
>
> How would I do it?
>
> Open to ideas.
>
> Douwe
>
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That would work. I will build one as Ono as the next request come in.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 13, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Steve Emo <steve.emo58@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is a rig here the guys use. It is a plastic tube with a release doo
r. They tie/strap the tube to the struts then activate the release door fro
m the cockpit with a pull wire.
> Works good.
>
> Steve
>
> On Apr 13, 2013, at 4:43 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Well, of course what follows is all hypothetical
>>
>> IF the man who was my surrogate dad and mentor; the man who taught me art
and helped me fall in love with model airplanes and antique airplanes died.
And IF we had agreed that I=99d scatter his ashes from the Pietenpol
, and IF I had kept his ashes for three years while I finished the plane, an
d and IF the Pietenpol was finally flying
>>
>> Any ideas as to how one would scatter ashes from an open cockpit plane wi
thout getting them in your face or all over the airplane?
>>
>> Of course, because of numerous legal and environmental issues I would nev
er actually do this,, but IF I hypothetically wanted to
>>
>> How would I do it?
>>
>> Open to ideas.
>>
>> Douwe
>>
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My sincerest condolences. Fair winds and following seas to your mentor!
A very good flight attendant friend of mine wants her ashes hidden in a Boeing
777 somewhere they'll never be found so she can fly to Paris every day, forever(ish).
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398572#398572
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One also could use a bag with a rip cord that would open when the bag reach
ed the end of the cord tied to the plane then pulled in for landing. What
ever is the easiest and cleanest.
From: raykrause@frontiernet.net
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ashes...
That would work. I will build one as Ono as the next request come in.
Thanks=2C
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 13=2C 2013=2C at 4:22 PM=2C Steve Emo <steve.emo58@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a rig here the guys use. It is a plastic tube with a release door
. They tie/strap the tube to the struts then activate the release door fro
m the cockpit with a pull wire.
Works good.
Steve
On Apr 13=2C 2013=2C at 4:43 PM=2C "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlin
k.net> wrote:
Hello all=2C
Well=2C of course what follows is all hypothetical=85
IF the man who was my surrogate dad and mentor=3B the man who taught me art
and helped me fall in love with model airplanes and antique airplanes died
. And IF we had agreed that I=92d scatter his ashes from the Pietenpol=2C
and IF I had kept his ashes for three years while I finished the plane=2C a
nd and IF the Pietenpol was finally flying=85
Any ideas as to how one would scatter ashes from an open cockpit plane with
out getting them in your face or all over the airplane?
Of course=2C because of numerous legal and environmental issues I would nev
er actually do this=2C=2C but IF I hypothetically wanted to=85
How would I do it?
Open to ideas.
Douwe
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