---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/15/13: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:52 AM - Re: My progress - 1st baby step (Charles Burkholder) 2. 04:25 AM - Progress (Peter W Johnson) 3. 05:11 AM - Re: Progress (Jack) 4. 05:36 AM - Re: Progress (tools) 5. 06:08 AM - Re: My progress - 1st baby step (echobravo4) 6. 06:16 AM - air/oil separator (Rick Schreiber) 7. 06:41 AM - Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Fun2av8) 8. 06:44 AM - Re: satellite tracking devices (Fun2av8) 9. 06:52 AM - Re: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Gary Boothe) 10. 08:21 AM - Re: Re: West coast Pieter's (Jim Boyer) 11. 08:23 AM - Re: My progress - 1st baby step (Jim Boyer) 12. 01:01 PM - Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 13. 02:25 PM - Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (taildrags) 14. 02:27 PM - Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress (jarheadpilot82) 15. 04:18 PM - Tracking down a plane. (curtdm(at)gmail.com) 16. 04:55 PM - Re: Tracking down a plane. (tools) 17. 05:18 PM - Re: Tracking down a plane. (Ken Bickers) 18. 05:23 PM - Re: Tracking down a plane. (Gary Boothe) 19. 05:34 PM - Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress (taildrags) 20. 05:40 PM - Re: air/oil separator (taildrags) 21. 05:54 PM - Re: ashes... (taildrags) 22. 06:43 PM - how do I post an iphone movie? (Douwe Blumberg) 23. 06:47 PM - Re: how do I post an iphone movie? (Gary Boothe) 24. 06:54 PM - Re: Tracking down a plane. (proplock) 25. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: ashes... (M. Zeke Zechini) 26. 07:43 PM - Re: Re: air/oil separator (Rick Schreiber) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:52:47 AM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My progress - 1st baby step Where did you get the full scale rib drawing? ----- Original Message ----- From: "pringljo" Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 9:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: My progress - 1st baby step > > > After piddling around with it foe a few weeks, I finally have my rib jig > the way I want it. I'm in the process of cutting enough pieces so that I > can assemble all the ribs in an assembly line fashion. It's amazing how > many gussets you need for a complete set of ribs. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398613#398613 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/rib_jig_161.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:36 AM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress Hi Guys, Just a couple of pictures to show the progress on the Piet rebuild. Photos show a bit of a "before and after". Fuse is just about ready to cover. I just need to sort out a trim system and radio antenna. I have still to update the web site properly but more pictures of progress can be found in the "Photographs" section. You may notice the different versions of the new instrument panel. Guess who forgot the cabane strut bracing cable positions!!! Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://repiet.cpc-world.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress From: Jack Wow Peter what progress! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Apr 15, 2013, at 6:24 AM, "Peter W Johnson" wrote : > Hi Guys, > > Just a couple of pictures to show the progress on the Piet rebuild. Photos show a bit of a "before and after". > > Fuse is just about ready to cover. I just need to sort out a trim system a nd radio antenna. > > I have still to update the web site properly but more pictures of progress can be found in the "Photographs" section. > > You may notice the different versions of the new instrument panel. Guess w ho forgot the cabane strut bracing cable positions!!! > > Cheers > > Peter > Wonthaggi Australia > http://repiet.cpc-world.com > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:19 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress From: "tools" First, nice work and congratulations! Looks like you found the causal factor for why Dale suffered a forced landing. Any evidence of an exhaust or intake leak on that cylinder? Curious if you had to make some modifications to the structure for an airworthiness cert in VK land? Cheers! de n0kkj Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398634#398634 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:01 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: My progress - 1st baby step From: "echobravo4" Great start! That's a nice looking jig, Assembly line is the way to go- Here's how I did mine, I think Uline sells the cardboard bins -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398635#398635 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_404.jpg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:54 AM PST US From: Rick Schreiber Subject: Pietenpol-List: air/oil separator I need to run the lines for my air/oil separator on my Corvair installation and I need some advice. As can be seen in the attached photo, my cowling is fairly tight. I do not want to run supply and return lines off of the valve cover if I don't have to. I know that the 6 "Big Piets" plumbed the lines differently and I was wondering if any of the Big Piet builders could respond how they did it and how it has been working. I have the ACSS homebuilders special oil separator. Rick Schreiber Valparaiso, IN ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:15 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam From: "Fun2av8" Well, its almost over! A gaggle of three (Chuck Tippet in Mr. Sam, John in the J-3 Cub, and Frank in a 450hp Stearman) left out of South Lakeland on Saturday. We all met up in Yulee FL for an RON. Then it was on to Virginia. They made it as far as Dinwiddy County Airport (KPTB). There, they left the J-3 and Mr. Sam for the night with Frank. John and Chuck jumped into the Stearman and headed for Warrenton. They had major issues with getting Mr. Sam started. Once the Piet was running, Chuck said that it runs and flies like a dream. Although Mr. Sam does not have any trim, Chuck says it flew most of the legs hands-off. True testament to how well Mr. Michael Brusilow built this Piet. I was going to change the tail number N687MB to something more personal to me .... but now, no way am I changing it. Mr. Sam needs to fly high and proud with MB as part of the tail number. So now, its off to KPTB to help out with the starting issues. Will post pictures later. -------- Jim McWhorter N687MB (New Owner) Culpeper, VA KCJR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398638#398638 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: satellite tracking devices From: "Fun2av8" Ok, somebody figured it out .... Truth be known the Spot was not attached to Mr. Sam. I had it in the van I was driving back. Long trip - see the thread "A Pietenpol Named Mr. Sam" for trip details. However, it will become part of the airplane very soon. But, if you are looking for a GPS Tracker .... this thing works GREAT!!!! Thanks for following along! -------- Jim McWhorter N687MB (New Owner) Culpeper, VA KCJR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398639#398639 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:57 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam From: Gary Boothe Jim, Great decision on the 'N' number! Gary NX308MB Sent from my iPhone On Apr 15, 2013, at 6:41 AM, "Fun2av8" wrote: > > Well, its almost over! A gaggle of three (Chuck Tippet in Mr. Sam, John in the J-3 Cub, and Frank in a 450hp Stearman) left out of South Lakeland on Saturday. We all met up in Yulee FL for an RON. Then it was on to Virginia. They made it as far as Dinwiddy County Airport (KPTB). There, they left the J-3 and Mr. Sam for the night with Frank. John and Chuck jumped into the Stearman and headed for Warrenton. They had major issues with getting Mr. Sam started. Once the Piet was running, Chuck said that it runs and flies like a dream. Although Mr. Sam does not have any trim, Chuck says it flew most of the legs hands-off. True testament to how well Mr. Michael Brusilow built this Piet. I was going to change the tail number N687MB to something more personal to me .... but now, no way am I changing it. Mr. Sam needs to fly high and proud with MB as part of the tail number. So now, its off to KPTB to help out with the starting issues. Will post pictures later. > > -------- > Jim McWhorter > N687MB (New Owner) > Culpeper, VA KCJR > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398638#398638 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:53 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West coast Pieter's Thanks Oscar, I did not know that. Jim ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:40 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My progress - 1st baby step Only 42 pieces of wood in each rib!!! ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:01:30 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress Just a great looking transformation Peter and looks like you are doing some excellent work in bringing that Pietenpol back to LIFE! Mike C. From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter W Johnson Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:25 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress Hi Guys, Just a couple of pictures to show the progress on the Piet rebuild. Photos show a bit of a "before and after". Fuse is just about ready to cover. I just need to sort out a trim system an d radio antenna. I have still to update the web site properly but more pictures of progress can be found in the "Photographs" section. You may notice the different versions of the new instrument panel. Guess wh o forgot the cabane strut bracing cable positions!!! Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://repiet.cpc-world.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:25:09 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam From: "taildrags" Jim: yes... please fill us in on the details of the starting issues with Mr. Sam. What was tried, what worked, what were the symptoms. Some on the list may recall that I've had difficulty starting the A75 on Scout. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398660#398660 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:27:09 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress From: "jarheadpilot82" Peter, Isn't your aircraft Dale McCleskey's old GN-1? That is awesome that it has found a new home. That is a long way from the cornfield to your house. If you don't mind, could you maybe give us a short discussion of how hard or easy it was to ship and how you got it crated up. That would be great. Congratulations and I know that we are all interested in hearing more from you about the rebuild. Looking forward to hearing more! -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398662#398662 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:18:26 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tracking down a plane. From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" I was going through security today in MSP when I got stopped by the TSA agent working the x-ray scanner. He asked if those were turnbuckles in my bag to which I replied "yes". The conversation continued and low and behold he built a Pietenpol, but had to sell it 5 yrs ago after his wife died. He was a Northwest mechanic and it was 90% done, had an a-65, and DC-10 harnesses. He sold it to an American Airlines pilot in Ft. Meyers, FL. He sold it and never heard if it got finished. Let me know if anyone has any clues to the fate of David Holmgren's old plane. Thanks -------- Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398668#398668 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:06 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tracking down a plane. From: "tools" Got bucket loads of buddies that work at American that can search the employee database, get a number and leave a message if you can get a name. Tools Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398670#398670 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tracking down a plane. From: Ken Bickers With stuff like that tucked deep in your bags, sounds like you're working for Air Markle now. On Apr 15, 2013, at 5:18 PM, "curtdm(at)gmail.com" wrote: > > I was going through security today in MSP when I got stopped by the TSA agent working the x-ray scanner. He asked if those were turnbuckles in my bag to which I replied "yes". The conversation continued and low and behold he built a Pietenpol, but had to sell it 5 yrs ago after his wife died. He was a Northwest mechanic and it was 90% done, had an a-65, and DC-10 harnesses. He sold it to an American Airlines pilot in Ft. Meyers, FL. He sold it and never heard if it got finished. > Let me know if anyone has any clues to the fate of David Holmgren's old plane. > > Thanks > > -------- > Curt Merdan > Flower Mound, TX > > Do Not Archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398668#398668 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tracking down a plane. From: Gary Boothe Plus, Curt carries a scaled down version of the plans everywhere be goes...not to mention on his I-phone, along with pictures of his, and everyone else's projects! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 15, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Ken Bickers wrote: > > With stuff like that tucked deep in your bags, sounds like you're working for Air Markle now. > > On Apr 15, 2013, at 5:18 PM, "curtdm(at)gmail.com" wrote: > >> >> I was going through security today in MSP when I got stopped by the TSA agent working the x-ray scanner. He asked if those were turnbuckles in my bag to which I replied "yes". The conversation continued and low and behold he built a Pietenpol, but had to sell it 5 yrs ago after his wife died. He was a Northwest mechanic and it was 90% done, had an a-65, and DC-10 harnesses. He sold it to an American Airlines pilot in Ft. Meyers, FL. He sold it and never heard if it got finished. >> Let me know if anyone has any clues to the fate of David Holmgren's old plane. >> >> Thanks >> >> -------- >> Curt Merdan >> Flower Mound, TX >> >> Do Not Archive >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398668#398668 > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:34:35 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress From: "taildrags" Unless I'm mistaken, Mike Cuy sold his Corby Starlet to someone out of the country and he prepped and crated it up for shipping. True, Mike-? What is entailed in all of that effort to get something like an airplane from the US to an overseas destination? Short of filling it with empty milk jugs and floating it across, of course ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398675#398675 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:26 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: air/oil separator From: "taildrags" Rick; this subject was just discussed in response to an observation that I made about Gary Boothe's breather setup. However, his uses the valve cover and it sounds like you're determined to avoid that. Yes, the Big Piet guys posted some comments about what NOT to do when attempting to breathe the crankcase via the top cover, but all indications are that the best way is going to be via the valve cover. I guess you could always figure out a way to make the setup more visually appealing if you can't avoid having to run vent tubes to and from the valve cover. Maybe some polished brass tubing brazed onto the valve cover instead of rubber hose with hose clamps-? I guess you can braze onto the stamped steel valve covers, but not the cast aluminum ones. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398677#398677 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:22 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: ashes... From: "taildrags" Steve: you wouldn't happen to *know* one of those guys from the Texas Panhandle, or maybe even *be* one of those guys, would you? ;o) Douwe, I really appreciate your desire to do this properly, and with dignity. My dad wanted us to scatter his ashes in the Gulf of Mexico, where we spent many, many wonderful hours and days fishing offshore. It was so relaxing to be out of sight of land on the blue water, lines out behind the boat, and nothing on the horizon. So we chartered a big "party boat" (fishing boat that takes a bunch of folks out fishing), since we are a large family and Dad wanted all of us to be able to go and enjoy the outing at the same time that we said our good-byes to him. When the moment came to scatter his ashes, we had the same embarrassing experience of having ashes and dust come wafting back over the rail of the boat and into the family members. All the best intentions were spoiled by the foibles of wind on the open water. The deed got done and we ended up spending the twilight hours back in Port Aransas in the very setting that Dad would have wanted us to, but it was not a pleasant moment when the ashes were actually released. Give it some thought, make a dry run or two with some innocuous fireplace sweepings, and then the emotions of the moment won't be diverted when things don't go as planned. If you actually had such a mentor and wanted to remember him in this way, you would do well to remember him the way others have suggested here, with well thought out release mechanisms that honor the departed and properly scatter his final remains. We stand on the shoulders of men like him in order to reach the sky ourselves, as you have so beautifully demonstrated. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398678#398678 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:14 PM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: how do I post an iphone movie? Anyone know how I can post a move taken on an iphone? Douwe ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: how do I post an iphone movie? From: Gary Boothe Upload to YouTube, then post the link. Gary Sent from my iPhone On Apr 15, 2013, at 6:49 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" w rote: > Anyone know how I can post a move taken on an iphone? > > Douwe > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:13 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tracking down a plane. From: "proplock" I was in David's shop when he was building his Piet, absolutely superb to say the least, was a really sad deal that he had to sell and couldn't finish it. His employment also took an upset at the same time his wife was battling cancer,just as Pieter's are, a fine fine person. Always had an invitation for coffee, an all around good guy. -------- A remarkable lad , capable of many things Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398683#398683 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:15 PM PST US From: "M. Zeke Zechini" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: ashes... Wow. Beautiful, Oscar....beautiful. Sent from my iPad On Apr 15, 2013, at 8:54 PM, "taildrags" wrote: > > Steve: you wouldn't happen to *know* one of those guys from the Texas Panhandle, or maybe even *be* one of those guys, would you? ;o) > > Douwe, I really appreciate your desire to do this properly, and with dignity. My dad wanted us to scatter his ashes in the Gulf of Mexico, where we spent many, many wonderful hours and days fishing offshore. It was so relaxing to be out of sight of land on the blue water, lines out behind the boat, and nothing on the horizon. So we chartered a big "party boat" (fishing boat that takes a bunch of folks out fishing), since we are a large family and Dad wanted all of us to be able to go and enjoy the outing at the same time that we said our good-byes to him. When the moment came to scatter his ashes, we had the same embarrassing experience of having ashes and dust come wafting back over the rail of the boat and into the family members. All the best intentions were spoiled by the foibles of wind on the open water. > > The deed got done and we ended up spending the twilight hours back in Port Aransas in the very setting that Dad would have wanted us to, but it was not a pleasant moment when the ashes were actually released. Give it some thought, make a dry run or two with some innocuous fireplace sweepings, and then the emotions of the moment won't be diverted when things don't go as planned. If you actually had such a mentor and wanted to remember him in this way, you would do well to remember him the way others have suggested here, with well thought out release mechanisms that honor the departed and properly scatter his final remains. We stand on the shoulders of men like him in order to reach the sky ourselves, as you have so beautifully demonstrated. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398678#398678 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:43:56 PM PST US From: Rick Schreiber Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: air/oil separator Oscar, It sounds like I need to give up on the idea of venting off the top cover or the oil filler tube. I have searched the list looking for the problems that the Big Piet boys had venting off the cover, but haven't been able to find any info. Do you remember what the issues were? 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