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1. 01:12 AM - Re: Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress (Peter W Johnson)
2. 05:30 AM - Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress (echobravo4)
3. 05:52 AM - Air Markle? (Jim Markle)
4. 06:27 AM - Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress (tkreiner)
5. 06:29 AM - Re: My progress - 1st baby step (pringljo)
6. 07:00 AM - Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress (aerocarjake)
7. 08:27 AM - Re: Tracking down a plane. (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
8. 08:27 AM - Re: My progress - 1st baby step (Bill Church)
9. 09:33 AM - Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Fun2av8)
10. 09:58 AM - Re: Virginia Pietenpols (Fun2av8)
11. 10:15 AM - Re: Re: My progress - 1st baby step (C N Campbell)
12. 10:23 AM - Re: Re: Virginia Pietenpols (Marcus Zechini)
13. 11:06 AM - Re: Re: air/oil separator (Barry Davis)
14. 11:40 AM - Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? (Don Emch)
15. 12:00 PM - Re: Re: ashes... (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
16. 12:09 PM - Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? (Robert Bush)
17. 12:41 PM - Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? (Don Emch)
18. 01:23 PM - Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? (gcardinal@comcast.net)
19. 01:26 PM - Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? (darmahboy@aol.com)
20. 03:25 PM - Re: Re: satellite tracking devices (Dan Yocum)
21. 05:02 PM - Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? (Jack)
22. 05:31 PM - Re: Re: Virginia Pietenpols (BRETT PHILLIPS)
23. 06:10 PM - Re: Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? (Dave Millikan)
24. 06:21 PM - Newbie needed help and info. (Pietenpol Bill)
25. 07:03 PM - Re: Re: Virginia Pietenpols (Jack Phillips)
26. 07:07 PM - Re: Newbie needed help and info. (Jack Phillips)
27. 07:14 PM - Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Fun2av8)
28. 08:53 PM - Re: Re: My progress - 1st baby step (Clif Dawson)
29. 09:11 PM - Re: Newbie needed help and info. (tools)
30. 09:26 PM - Re: Newbie needed help and info. (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress |
Hi Guys,
Yes it is Dale's old GN-1. Getting it home was not too bad with help from
people on this list.
I found a shipper though the SAAA (your EAA equivalent) here in Aussie that
ships a lot of aircraft. All I needed was someone to pack it in the US and
truck it to LA. Mark Chouinard came up with a contact in Tulsa and they
packed the Piet in a container and trucked it to LA. There it was loaded on
board a "Direct to Aussie" ship and off loaded in Melbourne about four weeks
later. From the docks it is taken to one of our local airports for unpacking
and quarantine inspection. I took a mate and with a trailer each, trailered
it all home. Fuse on one trailer, wings on the other.
Not for the feight hearted though. I thought I was dealing with a company
that would pick it up from Oklahoma and deliver it to me at home. There was
a lot of work involved in getting both ends organised. Having a
recommendation from Mark was a great help in getting it to LA.
Costs were pretty horrendous but those are the joys of living in Australia.
Nearly everything airplane oriented comes from the States!
As for the registration requirements in Australia they are very similar to
your experimental category. I can make what changes I need (within reason).
The Inspector will make a decision on how far from the airport you can fly
and the amount of hours required for the test phase based on the type of
engine, aircraft and modifications. Something really strange could get a one
flight, one circuit restriction. Most commonly known aircraft get a 50nM
radius for 25 hours. My original Piet had a 50nM radius for 50 hours because
of the Corvair engine.
As you can see form the pictures on the web site one piston had a hole in
it. I have since purchased a new (old) cylinder and all the parts to rebuild
the engine (thanks Oscar!). I took the cylinders, crank etc to my local IA
for inspection. He transferred the valves from the old cylinder to the new
one and cleaned everything else up. On checking the crank he found a crack
in it so I have had to get another crank (via Barnstormers) sent out from
the US. Oh for a Corvair!!!! (just joking).
There will be more pictures on the web site as work continues.
I am looking forward to its next flight!
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://repiet.cpc-world.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jarheadpilot82
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013 7:27 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress
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Peter,
Isn't your aircraft Dale McCleskey's old GN-1?
That is awesome that it has found a new home. That is a long way from the
cornfield to your house. If you don't mind, could you maybe give us a short
discussion of how hard or easy it was to ship and how you got it crated up.
That would be great.
Congratulations and I know that we are all interested in hearing more from
you about the rebuild. Looking forward to hearing more!
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress |
Wow! Nice work Peter
That looks great
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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I would not have gotten caught.... :-)
Time: 05:18:03 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tracking down a plane.
From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
With stuff like that tucked deep in your bags, sounds like you're working for Air
Markle now.
On Apr 15, 2013, at 5:18 PM, "curtdm(at)gmail.com" <curtdm@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I was going through security today in MSP when I got stopped by the TSA agent
working the x-ray scanner. He asked if those were turnbuckles in my bag to which
I replied "yes". The conversation continued and low and behold he built
a Pietenpol, but had to sell it 5 yrs ago after his wife died. He was a Northwest
mechanic and it was 90% done, had an a-65, and DC-10 harnesses. He sold it
to an American Airlines pilot in Ft. Meyers, FL. He sold it and never heard
if it got finished.
> Let me know if anyone has any clues to the fate of David Holmgren's old plane.
>
> Thanks
>
> --------
> Curt Merdan
> Flower Mound, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress |
Peter,
Nice work! You'll be back in the air in no time...
Of your many nice photos, your toe brakes caught my eye, and I wonder if you have
any sketches or a side shot showing some additional detail, as I have identical
brake cylinders that I picked up at AeroMart last year, and I was about to
discard them for something else until I saw your setup. Very nice indeed!
Any help would be appreciated.
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Tom Kreiner
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| Subject: | Re: My progress - 1st baby step |
Thanks for everybody's feedback and support so far. I have a couple of responses:
I ordered the full size rib drawing from
Bill Rewey
3339 Moundview Rd
Verona, WI 53593
608 833 5839
I sent him $25 and he sent the plan plus a nice packet of many other helpful hints
and drawings. I highly recommend him.
The plastic film is just the normal visqueen from Home Depot. I tried my first
"glue up" last night, and the finished structure just popped off the jig beautifully.
I'm using paper lunch bags for my bins. Keeping it simple.
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: Peter Johnson's Piet restoration Progress |
Wonderful job.... Neat idea to paint the interior....
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Tracking down a plane. |
The turnbuckles were from a partially built Ragwing Ultra-Piet that we bought last
summer. It was in horrible shape but had salvageable hardware.
I'll need to visit Mr. Markle for some additional training on his stealthy tactics.
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Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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| Subject: | Re: My progress - 1st baby step |
Joe,
Since you got your rib drawing from Bill Rewey, I assume that's one of the Riblett
airfoils, and not the original Pietenpol airfoil.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam |
Frank figured out the starting problem. I have 2 leads that were not firing at
all, a really bad fouled plug (don't know which cyl), and the timing was off.
Timing - that's easy. Bottom line - Frank says that the existing mags are really
old and were at that time designed to be throw-aways - not repairable.
So now I am in search of a set of mags for my O-200. Any one know of a set of
new or used mags for sale?
Meanwhile, Chuck loaned me a set of mags out of his Champ (its in rehab) so he
can bring Mr. Sam from PTB to Culpeper. With a little bit of luck, the Piet will
be in my hangar tonight and the journey from FL will finally be over.
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Jim McWhorter
N687MB (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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| Subject: | Re: Virginia Pietenpols |
I swear I posted this.... but can't find it.
(1) Who is going to Brodhead this year?
(2) Of those of you going to Brodhead - are any of you going to Oshkosh on Sunday
July 28th?
(3) If you are not going to Oshkosh - are you planning on heading back to Virginia
on Saturday (27th) or Sunday (28th)?
Me, I think I will have had enough camping for one trip - I will most likely be
headed back to VA at the end of Brodhead. I could be convinced to go to Oshkosh
for a day or two - but that would be the max.
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Jim McWhorter
N687MB (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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| Subject: | Re: My progress - 1st baby step |
You used paper bags -- I used large plastic drinking cups. C
----- Original Message -----
From: "pringljo" <joseph.pringle@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: My progress - 1st baby step
> <joseph.pringle@gmail.com>
>
> Thanks for everybody's feedback and support so far. I have a couple of
> responses:
> I ordered the full size rib drawing from
>
> Bill Rewey
> 3339 Moundview Rd
> Verona, WI 53593
> 608 833 5839
>
> I sent him $25 and he sent the plan plus a nice packet of many other
> helpful hints and drawings. I highly recommend him.
>
> The plastic film is just the normal visqueen from Home Depot. I tried my
> first "glue up" last night, and the finished structure just popped off the
> jig beautifully.
>
> I'm using paper lunch bags for my bins. Keeping it simple.
>
> Joe
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398714#398714
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Virginia Pietenpols |
Would be my 1st time. Short on vacation time and was hoping for departure
mid week. Would be fun to go in the gaggle, though. I would be leaving from
3VA7 and hooking up, maybe, with the Virginia crew
On Apr 16, 2013 1:01 PM, "Fun2av8" <iflyga@fun2av8.com> wrote:
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> I swear I posted this.... but can't find it.
>
> (1) Who is going to Brodhead this year?
>
> (2) Of those of you going to Brodhead - are any of you going to Oshkosh on
> Sunday July 28th?
>
> (3) If you are not going to Oshkosh - are you planning on heading back to
> Virginia on Saturday (27th) or Sunday (28th)?
>
> Me, I think I will have had enough camping for one trip - I will most
> likely be headed back to VA at the end of Brodhead. I could be convinced
> to go to Oshkosh for a day or two - but that would be the max.
>
> --------
> Jim McWhorter
> N687MB (New Owner)
> Culpeper, VA KCJR
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: air/oil separator |
Sorry for the delayed reply, as I am nursing my 88 Year old Dad with a
broken hip.
I will try ASAP to get pictures and report our performance of the oil
separator
Barry
NX973BP
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Schreiber
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: air/oil separator
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Oscar,
It sounds like I need to give up on the idea of venting off the top cover or
the oil filler tube. I have searched the list looking for the problems that
the Big Piet boys had venting off the cover, but haven't been able to find
any info. Do you remember what the issues were?
Rick Schreiber
Valpo IN
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| Subject: | Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? |
Just curious... Are any of you guys that are planning to fly their Piet to Brodhead,
thinking about or planning to head to Oshkosh on Sunday morning. I'm hoping
to fly my Piet to Brodhead then I am thinking very seriously about heading
further north for a couple of days. Might be fun if we had a small group...
Don Emch
NX899DE
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UNCLASSIFIED
I was not in the plane. However, the family all said the old farmer would have
laughed his tail off.
Later I was with an ash release over a ranch on Palo Duro canyon. We wanted it
to go well, So a fellow skydiver climbed/leaned way out of the plane (with is
rig on) and I held his leg straps. We are about 1500 feet AGL but only about 300
feet above the family on the canyon rim. They said his ashes looked like silver
in the setting sunlight.
Anouther story. While working as a Lineboy at Williamsburg, VA, someone called
the FBO and asked me who could drop remains into the Chesapeake Bay. In a soothing
voice I gave them the phone number to our flight school. After I hung up
and told my coworkers, we all started laughing, what if they weren't talking about
ashes but a body? what if they were Mafia wanting to dispose of a body?
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On 04/15/13, taildrags wrote:
>
> Steve: you wouldn't happen to *know* one of those guys from the Texas Panhandle,
or maybe even *be* one of those guys, would you? ;o)
>
> Douwe, I really appreciate your desire to do this properly, and with dignity.
My dad wanted us to scatter his ashes in the Gulf of Mexico, where we spent many,
many wonderful hours and days fishing offshore. It was so relaxing to be
out of sight of land on the blue water, lines out behind the boat, and nothing
on the horizon. So we chartered a big "party boat" (fishing boat that takes a
bunch of folks out fishing), since we are a large family and Dad wanted all of
us to be able to go and enjoy the outing at the same time that we said our good-byes
to him. When the moment came to scatter his ashes, we had the same embarrassing
experience of having ashes and dust come wafting back over the rail
of the boat and into the family members. All the best intentions were spoiled
by the foibles of wind on the open water.
>
> The deed got done and we ended up spending the twilight hours back in Port Aransas
in the very setting that Dad would have wanted us to, but it was not a pleasant
moment when the ashes were actually released. Give it some thought, make
a dry run or two with some innocuous fireplace sweepings, and then the emotions
of the moment won't be diverted when things don't go as planned. If you actually
had such a mentor and wanted to remember him in this way, you would do
well to remember him the way others have suggested here, with well thought out
release mechanisms that honor the departed and properly scatter his final remains.
We stand on the shoulders of men like him in order to reach the sky ourselves,
as you have so beautifully demonstrated.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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UNCLASSIFIED
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| Subject: | Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? |
Hi Don, I'm thinking about doing the same thing and would love to have the company
into Oshkosh. So count me in if nothing comes up to get in the way.
Randy Bush
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 16, 2013, at 1:40 PM, "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote:
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> Just curious... Are any of you guys that are planning to fly their Piet to Brodhead,
thinking about or planning to head to Oshkosh on Sunday morning. I'm
hoping to fly my Piet to Brodhead then I am thinking very seriously about heading
further north for a couple of days. Might be fun if we had a small group...
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? |
Hey Randy,
Yeah, I'm just kicking it around right now. I had a lot of fun a few years ago
when we all went in. Just remember if you get invited to camp in one of the
little "compounds" be sure to bring double ear protection! My tent was in this
fun tribe. Ha!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? |
I've been kicking that idea around also. If I go I will be NORDO and I will
=C2-land at the ultralight strip.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:40:30 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh?
Just curious... Are any of you guys that are planning to fly their Piet to
Brodhead, thinking about or planning to head to Oshkosh on Sunday morning.
=C2-I'm hoping to fly my Piet to Brodhead then I am thinking very serious
ly about heading further north for a couple of days. =C2-Might be fun if
we had a small group...
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? |
We'll talk @ the SAC, but I think count me in. Bob.
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From: gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, Apr 16, 2013 3:23 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh?
I've been kicking that idea around also. If I go I will be NORDO and I will
land at the ultralight strip.
Greg Cardinal
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:40:30 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh?
Just curious... Are any of you guys that are planning to fly their Piet to
Brodhead, thinking about or planning to head to Oshkosh on Sunday morning.
I'm hoping to fly my Piet to Brodhead then I am thinking very seriously ab
out heading further north for a couple of days. Might be fun if we had a s
mall group...
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: satellite tracking devices |
On 04/15/2013 08:44 AM, Fun2av8 wrote:
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> Ok, somebody figured it out .... Truth be known the Spot was not attached to
Mr. Sam. I had it in the van I was driving back. Long trip - see the thread
"A Pietenpol Named Mr. Sam" for trip details. However, it will become part of
the airplane very soon.
>
Ah! A new item to add to the "things useless to a pilot" list: a SPOT
on the ground.
;-)
Glad to hear you all got home safe, Jim.
Cheers,
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? |
Don wish mine was ready, maybe next year!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Apr 16, 2013, at 1:40 PM, "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote:
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> Just curious... Are any of you guys that are planning to fly their Piet to Brodhead,
thinking about or planning to head to Oshkosh on Sunday morning. I'm
hoping to fly my Piet to Brodhead then I am thinking very seriously about heading
further north for a couple of days. Might be fun if we had a small group...
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| Subject: | Re: Virginia Pietenpols |
1.) I'm working on it dammit! ;-) Honest I am... I'm aiming to fly, but
I'll be there even if I have to drive.
2.) Probably some folks will. My belly is still full of plastic fantastics
and a sea of RV's (winnebago's and -3's, -4's, -6's etc) from 2011. I
won't likely be going back for a while.
3.) You will not want to leave Brodhead on Saturday. Sunday is the day to
leave if you have to, but it makes Pieting home to VA before Monday a rough
proposition.
If Gene and I are able to go together it will certainly be a long trip
since neither of us will be very fast or long legged. Add to that the fact
that neither of us has a tailwheel, so finding a place to land that has gas
every 1-1/2 hours will be a challenge and will make for quite an adventure.
Purists carry a heavy cross in the east...
Brett
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Fun2av8 <iflyga@fun2av8.com> wrote:
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> I swear I posted this.... but can't find it.
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> (1) Who is going to Brodhead this year?
>
> (2) Of those of you going to Brodhead - are any of you going to Oshkosh on
> Sunday July 28th?
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> (3) If you are not going to Oshkosh - are you planning on heading back to
> Virginia on Saturday (27th) or Sunday (28th)?
>
> Me, I think I will have had enough camping for one trip - I will most
> likely be headed back to VA at the end of Brodhead. I could be convinced
> to go to Oshkosh for a day or two - but that would be the max.
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> N687MB (New Owner)
> Culpeper, VA KCJR
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| Subject: | Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh? |
Sorry, but its a different subject..
Just finished a mockup of my delevator system..
All the pics of Petes show the elevators in the nose down position.
They are heavy, on balance fwd of hinge line.
has anyone put a spring in the system to offset the
heavy wood elevator
as is you must have to hold aft stick for level flight ?
Dave- inverness, Fl
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From: Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets from Brodhead to Oshkosh?
Hey Randy,
Yeah, I'm just kicking it around right now.- I had a lot of fun a few yea
rs ago when we all went in.- Just remember if you get invited to camp in
one of the little "compounds" be sure to bring double ear protection!- My
tent was in this fun tribe.- Ha!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Hello to all, I am getting started on my Piet project and wanting to use the Model
A engine. I was talking to a fellow and he said that with the Model A, the
Piet could use alittle bigger wing and that some guys lengthen the wing 4 feet
with the original rib design. Is this true? I started building ribs and want
to stay with the original airfoil but should I build a few more and make the
wing longer? Is this a good idea and what would be the pro's and con's of doing
this? Would this produce better performance but slower cruise? He had also
said to raise the cabane struts 2" for getting in easier? Would the wing being
higher have any difference on the air moving over the tail being changed and
causing any problems? Have read on here in the past of some Piets having problems
in steep turns wanting to keep tighening up and not wanting to roll back
out. Would this have anything to do with longer or higher wings causing these
problems? So the big question would be, for safety should I stick to the plans
and build 29' or does it really need to be improved and should be 33' to be safe
and fly better. Any and all input would be of help to ease my mind. Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Virginia Pietenpols |
I'll be heading back to Virginia on Sunday after Brodhead. Will probably
take two days to make the trip each way.
I'll want to head to Brodhead on Tuesday, planning to arrive Wednesday. I
try this every year and haven't gotten there before Friday yet.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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PHILLIPS
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Virginia Pietenpols
1.) I'm working on it dammit! ;-) Honest I am... I'm aiming to fly, but
I'll be there even if I have to drive.
2.) Probably some folks will. My belly is still full of plastic fantastics
and a sea of RV's (winnebago's and -3's, -4's, -6's etc) from 2011. I won't
likely be going back for a while.
3.) You will not want to leave Brodhead on Saturday. Sunday is the day to
leave if you have to, but it makes Pieting home to VA before Monday a rough
proposition.
If Gene and I are able to go together it will certainly be a long trip since
neither of us will be very fast or long legged. Add to that the fact that
neither of us has a tailwheel, so finding a place to land that has gas every
1-1/2 hours will be a challenge and will make for quite an adventure.
Purists carry a heavy cross in the east...
Brett
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Fun2av8 <iflyga@fun2av8.com> wrote:
I swear I posted this.... but can't find it.
(1) Who is going to Brodhead this year?
(2) Of those of you going to Brodhead - are any of you going to Oshkosh on
Sunday July 28th?
(3) If you are not going to Oshkosh - are you planning on heading back to
Virginia on Saturday (27th) or Sunday (28th)?
Me, I think I will have had enough camping for one trip - I will most likely
be headed back to VA at the end of Brodhead. I could be convinced to go to
Oshkosh for a day or two - but that would be the max.
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N687MB (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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Build it to the plans, and it will be a fine flying airplane. I made a
number of "improvments" to mine, and it flies almost as well as one built
strictly to the plans. But not quite.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Bill
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:21 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newbie needed help and info.
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Hello to all, I am getting started on my Piet project and wanting to use
the Model A engine. I was talking to a fellow and he said that with the
Model A, the Piet could use alittle bigger wing and that some guys lengthen
the wing 4 feet with the original rib design. Is this true? I started
building ribs and want to stay with the original airfoil but should I build
a few more and make the wing longer? Is this a good idea and what would be
the pro's and con's of doing this? Would this produce better performance but
slower cruise? He had also said to raise the cabane struts 2" for getting in
easier? Would the wing being higher have any difference on the air moving
over the tail being changed and causing any problems? Have read on here in
the past of some Piets having problems in steep turns wanting to keep
tighening up and not wanting to roll back out. Would this have anything to
do with longer or higher wings causing these problems? So the big question
would be, for safety s!
hould I stick to the plans and build 29' or does it really need to be
improved and should be 33' to be safe and fly better. Any and all input
would be of help to ease my mind. Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam |
It's over! Mr. Sam is in his new home. Culpeper VA:
http://youtu.be/VbvnZpLNoP8
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Jim McWhorter
N687MB (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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| Subject: | Re: My progress - 1st baby step |
Well, I used salmon tins. :-) Mmmmmmmm
Clif
The only thing that interferes with my learning
is my education. A. Einstein
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> You used paper bags -- I used large plastic drinking cups. C
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie needed help and info. |
In a Piet, there are mods and there are MODS...
The simple stuff like epoxy instead of casein, cable instead of hard wire, a little
doug fir (like for spars) instead of spruce, polyester and modern paint instead
of cotton and dope... are relatively minor.
Making the wing 10 percent larger isn't...
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the general consensus is to keep as
close to plans as you can stand for the most predictable results. Which, as
mentioned, is a great plane.
Horsepower is a weird term and doesn't really mean anything on it's own. The Ford
can swing a large prop, lots of frontal low pressure area that translates
into flies the plane fine. Don't let the 40 to 50 number scare you. Just as
100hp from a Corvair shouldn't be ALL that impressive, as the prop is quite a
bit smaller.
Read, read and read some more. Go find some folks building and flying and sit
in their planes, talk to them about performance and flying. You'll find you have
LOTS to do while you make sweeping decisions like making the wing that much
larger, as the ribs will be the same, still have to find and build a motor,
etc.
Keep in mind that all changes really have cascading effects and think them through
as well as you can.
I will add that LOTS of folks do raise the wing an inch, maybe two, with minor
effects. That turns out to be not a huge deal. However, the wing size thing
isn't as obvious from what I can tell...
The airplane isn't super stable, but it's really safe and easy to fly, if built
to plans. I haven't flown one not built fairly closely to plans, with the exception
of a high horsepower GN-1, and it really was a totally different animal,
and I like the to plans flying characteristics better.
Another line of thinking. If you make the wings larger, where are you going to
attach the struts? The same place, further out in proportion, further than that
for some other reason? Now those are even heavier... Larger wings might need
better attaching. Are you gonna keep the fittings the same size? Thicker
metal? Bigger cabane struts? Or not?
It REALLY gets confusing quick, unless this stuff is really inane for you. One
of the advantages to building a Piet is the vast amount of help you can get from
others. My dad built a Hatz CB-1, which doesn't have ANY help on the plans
on throttle linkages, since it's assumed you'll have a different motor and setup,
just figure it out on your own... and on and on and on. You really can
VERY closely just follow the plans on an Piet without a lot of airplane building
prior knowledge and wind up with a safe reliable plane.
Food for thought. That being said, you really can make a lot of changes effectively,
but most who enjoy the Piet, don't. Other genres of planes do a lot more.
Stay in touch!
Tools
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| Subject: | Re: Newbie needed help and info. |
Bill;
I'll try to beat some of the others to the punch, but here are the top three things
you'll probably hear if you're just starting out:
1. If you don't already own a set of the genuine Pietenpol family plans for the
Air Camper, invest in them and start spending some time looking at them. Carefully,
slowly, and just letting the details start to come together to make sense.
2. If don't already own a set of Tony Bingelis' books on building experimental
aircraft, put them at the top of your Christmas list. Lots of good information
on building, hardware, techniques, tips, ideas, and answers.
3. Let us know where you're located. Chances are there is a Piet builder, owner,
or pilot near you. This is better than money in the bank or spruce lumber
in the shop, because the more time you can spend looking at, touching, sitting
in, flying in, or examining other Piets, the more money you will save and the
more re-work you'll spare yourself.
Might as well throw in the 4th and 5th most popular comments you'll get:
4. Visit Chris Tracy's website at www.westcoastpiet.com and start going through pictures of Piets. It's a gold mine.
5. All of the other answers to life's questions, philosophy, smart-alecky remarks,
and male/female relationships (not to mention aviation truths) can all be
found in the cult classic movie "The Great Waldo Pepper". Get it. Oh, and might
as well throw in #6... get Mike Cuy's video on building and flying the Pietenpol
Air Camper.
End of sermon.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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