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1. 01:19 AM - Re: Model A water prob (Jack)
2. 05:38 AM - Re: Re: Model A water prob (helspersew@aol.com)
3. 06:16 AM - flop (Gardiner)
4. 06:25 AM - another option for Oscar (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
5. 10:22 AM - Ruddder Horn Repair (Andre Abreu)
6. 10:53 AM - Re: flop (taildrags)
7. 10:55 AM - Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Fun2av8)
8. 11:07 AM - Re: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Marcus Zechini)
9. 11:56 AM - Axle thickness? (Chris Rusch)
10. 12:09 PM - Re: Ruddder Horn Repair (shad bell)
11. 12:50 PM - Re: Ruddder Horn Repair (aabreu)
12. 02:17 PM - Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Fun2av8)
13. 02:17 PM - Re: Axle thickness? (Craig Aho)
14. 02:41 PM - Re: Model A water prob (bender)
15. 03:27 PM - Re: Axle thickness? (Jack Phillips)
16. 06:46 PM - Re: Axle thickness? (Jerry Dotson)
17. 07:29 PM - Re: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Dick N)
18. 08:27 PM - Re: Axle thickness? (Chris Rusch)
19. 08:58 PM - Anyone near Beaumont TX? (Mark Roberts)
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Subject: | Re: Model A water prob |
Jeff, obvious but...is the plumping hooked up correctly?
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Apr 23, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "bender" <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> wrote:
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> Hey Guys.... I'm still fighting this water overflow problem on the ford A...
I'm starting to wonder if the problem is the angle of the engine on the ground..
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> I ran today.. at full power after a couple of minutes i believe.. I started getting
water overflowing again.
> Its killing me.. I want to fly but not if there's a problem..
> I added a "steam pipe " to the front of the head... slowed down the pump a bit
and still after a bit of a run at full power... water out of the overflow. and
at temps below 180. I'm wondering if i'm getting a steam pocket in the head.
Do i need to raise the tail to do a long full power run ??
> Am i creating my own problem ?
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> i see why the air cooled engines win out sometimes... i love the A.. runs great....
but this is baffling me
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Subject: | Re: Model A water prob |
Jeff,
Mine did the same thing, but seems to be less of a problem lately. When the
water level finds the zone it stops. I flew all those rides last year at B
rodhead with no problems. I only recall adding a water bottle full of water
the whole weekend. Go fly and see how it goes.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 23, 2013 6:12 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A water prob
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It's a new radiator. ..I had it made. . Aluminum two row core.
It's narrower than the Lovely radiator many have. .. 20" by 8" ..
& I think forest built his 10 or 12 by 20... but I've been told aluminum is
30%
More efficient. .I really think I'm getting a steam pocket. .
The radiator keeps its cool till it overflows then it gets warm. .. not hot
then
overflow.
Overflow then hot. ..I could put the tail on a stand and run but a taxi at
full
power long enough to overflow would result in a lot of altitude
Jeff
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for, those of you that have a flop on the center section, do you still
get air coming down the back of your neck? I have the C/S cut out and
the down draft is quite strong and am considering putting a removable
section for flight. cheers gardiner.
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Subject: | another option for Oscar |
Oscar,
Here's another option. Fly an airplane similar to what you normally fly fo
r flight review. (unless you really
want to learn and fly the glass panel 152 of course) I routinely take my f
light review in a nearby J-3 that
an FBO gives dual instruction in because that plane is closest in flying ch
aracteristics as the plane I do
most of my flying in.
39 minutes from you in Grants Pass Oregon you can take your flight review i
n this Ercoupe and you won't have
to worry about getting a Garmin 1000 manual.
http://www.captaindrakesfaa.com/page_packages.php
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The owner even has a wonderful lodge that you can take your wife to for a b
eautiful overnighter and still be home to feed
the dog in the morning.
Captain Drakes Family Aerial Adventures
Illinois Valley Airport (3S4)
424 Airport Drive
Cave Junction, Oregon 97523
Phone:541-415-0600
Email: Captaindrakesfaa@gmail.com<mailto:captaindrakesfaa@gmail.com>
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Subject: | Ruddder Horn Repair |
The Rudder Horn on 6186L broke.- =0AWe removed it from the aircraft and m
ade a repair... just in time for flying season.=0A=0AHere are some pictures
.=0Ahttp://http://tinyurl.com/aqe27h3=0A=0AAndy Abreu =0AKTDZ=0A
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Gardiner;
Scout has a hinged flop. In cold weather I find myself leaning forward a bit,
but that's so that I can get behind the windscreen a little closer. I do not
get wind down my back from the flop.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam |
I've seen several Piets and they do NOT have shoulder harnesses - just seat belts.
Does anyone use a 4-point harness in the back seat or is it tradition to
use only a lap belt?
If you do use a harness, and if you had to install it after the Piet was built
- would share how you did it?
Mr. Sam has only a lap belt. I would like to add a four point harness - but since
the seat back is built-in to the frame - there will have to be some serious
wood cutting to install the shoulder harness.
Thoughts and suggestions are welcome.
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Jim McWhorter
N687MB (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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Subject: | Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam |
Jim:
While doing conditional, got a peek through inspection hole at how shoulder
half is attached. Mine come thru slits in fabric behind the seat. I will
pop in to CJR soon.
Zeke GN-1 C-85-12 "Rosie"
On Apr 24, 2013 2:02 PM, "Fun2av8" <iflyga@fun2av8.com> wrote:
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> I've seen several Piets and they do NOT have shoulder harnesses - just
> seat belts. Does anyone use a 4-point harness in the back seat or is it
> tradition to use only a lap belt?
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> If you do use a harness, and if you had to install it after the Piet was
> built - would share how you did it?
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> Mr. Sam has only a lap belt. I would like to add a four point harness -
> but since the seat back is built-in to the frame - there will have to be
> some serious wood cutting to install the shoulder harness.
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> Thoughts and suggestions are welcome.
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> Jim McWhorter
> N687MB (New Owner)
> Culpeper, VA KCJR
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Just wondering what everyone is using for axle thickness for straight gear piets?
Mine is 1-1/2" x .120 wall chromolly and I can see it flexing just sitting
there.....i know somebody on here broke an axle and increased it to 3/16 wall......
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NX321LR
Fully Assembled
Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
Wings covered and primed, one painted
Mitsubishi Powered
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Subject: | Re: Ruddder Horn Repair |
Andy, I am going to try to get our Piet annual cond insp. done this week.
- We will have to try to meet up for breakfast or lunch sometime this spr
ing/ summer.
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Shad Bell
NX92GB
--- On Wed, 4/24/13, Andre Abreu <andre_abreu_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Andre Abreu <andre_abreu_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ruddder Horn Repair
The Rudder Horn on 6186L broke.-
We removed it from the aircraft and made a repair... just in time for flyin
g season.
Here are some pictures.
http://http://tinyurl.com/aqe27h3
Andy Abreu
KTDZ
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Subject: | Re: Ruddder Horn Repair |
Shad,
Cool... come out for a pancake breakfast or something!
Andy Abreu
KTDZ
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Subject: | Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam |
Hi Zeke,
Thanks ... Let me know when you are coming and I will be sure to be at Culpeper.
Its only 10 minutes from the house.
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Jim McWhorter
N687MB (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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That is interesting=2C I have the same size and it has a very noticable bow
to it. Craig
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Axle thickness?
> From: rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com
> Date: Wed=2C 24 Apr 2013 11:54:58 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> Just wondering what everyone is using for axle thickness for straight gea
r piets? Mine is 1-1/2" x .120 wall chromolly and I can see it flexing just
sitting there.....i know somebody on here broke an axle and increased it t
o 3/16 wall......
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Subject: | Re: Model A water prob |
Ok. . After staring at my engine this morning it came to me. . The elbow in the
top hose from the engine to the radiator was actually higher than the radiator
with the tail on the ground. . So i made a new fitting. .I ran the engine full
power on the ground. .. raised the tail with forward stick and no overflow.
. Back on the ground it overflows. .I think it's a steam pocket from the lack
of flow to the front of the head. My steam pipe is only a 3/8 tube. . I'm thinking
it may need to be larger. .
But the run with the tail up slightly showed that it would probably be ok in flight
Jeff
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That would be me. My original axle was 1-1/2" OD, .120 wall. My new axle
is 1-1/2" OD, .188 wall, heat treated after welding to 160,000 psi ultimate
strength.
The thin wall axle is ok if you don't have brakes and the wheels are very
close to the V-blocks of the undercarriage. The problem comes when brakes
require moving the wheels further outboard, which dramatically increases the
moment applied to the axle. Add a stress riser, such as a guide pin to
prevent axle rotation, and you can find yourself in the same situation I
did.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Rusch
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:55 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Axle thickness?
Just wondering what everyone is using for axle thickness for straight gear
piets? Mine is 1-1/2" x .120 wall chromolly and I can see it flexing just
sitting there.....i know somebody on here broke an axle and increased it to
3/16 wall......
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NX321LR
Fully Assembled
Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
Wings covered and primed, one painted
Mitsubishi Powered
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Subject: | Re: Axle thickness? |
Mine is 0.188 wall per Jack's experience and mine bows a little too. Can't really
see it with the eye but a straight edge shows it.
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Jerry Dotson
First flight June 16,2012
Flying in phase 2
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam |
Jim
I wasnt going to share this with anyone but I have already showed this
pic to a few guys from my EAA chapter so here it is. The point here is
I had landed and was fast taxiing down the runway and something happend
and I ran off the side of the runway into a snow bank. My point is my
four point harness held me just fine, I would have been injured with a
simple 2 point belt
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Zechini
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam
Jim:
While doing conditional, got a peek through inspection hole at how
shoulder half is attached. Mine come thru slits in fabric behind the
seat. I will pop in to CJR soon.
Zeke GN-1 C-85-12 "Rosie"
On Apr 24, 2013 2:02 PM, "Fun2av8" <iflyga@fun2av8.com> wrote:
I've seen several Piets and they do NOT have shoulder harnesses -
just seat belts. Does anyone use a 4-point harness in the back seat or
is it tradition to use only a lap belt?
If you do use a harness, and if you had to install it after the Piet
was built - would share how you did it?
Mr. Sam has only a lap belt. I would like to add a four point
harness - but since the seat back is built-in to the frame - there will
have to be some serious wood cutting to install the shoulder harness.
Thoughts and suggestions are welcome.
--------
Jim McWhorter
N687MB (New Owner)
Culpeper, VA KCJR
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Subject: | Re: Axle thickness? |
Hi Jack,
Where did your axle fail? At the anti rotation add on?
jack(at)bedfordlandings.c wrote:
> That would be me. My original axle was 1-1/2" OD, .120 wall. My new axle
> is 1-1/2" OD, .188 wall, heat treated after welding to 160,000 psi ultimate
> strength.
>
> The thin wall axle is ok if you don't have brakes and the wheels are very
> close to the V-blocks of the undercarriage. The problem comes when brakes
> require moving the wheels further outboard, which dramatically increases the
> moment applied to the axle. Add a stress riser, such as a guide pin to
> prevent axle rotation, and you can find yourself in the same situation I
> did.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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NX321LR
Fully Assembled
Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
Wings covered and primed, one painted
Mitsubishi Powered
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Subject: | Anyone near Beaumont TX? |
MIGHT be looking at moving to Beaumont... Anyone near there?
Mark
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