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1. 12:08 AM - Re: Re: Axle thickness? (Clif Dawson)
2. 12:30 AM - Re: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Clif Dawson)
3. 05:27 AM - Re: Telegram (echobravo4)
4. 05:33 AM - Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (AircamperN11MS)
5. 05:37 AM - Re: Telegram (AircamperN11MS)
6. 05:39 AM - Re: Ruddder Horn Repair (Andre Abreu)
7. 05:51 AM - Re: Ruddder Horn Repair (Jack)
8. 05:57 AM - Re: Telegram (TOM STINEMETZE)
9. 06:25 AM - Re: Axle thickness? (Chris Rusch)
10. 06:28 AM - Carb heat Filter?? (Chris Rusch)
11. 06:36 AM - Re: Carb heat Filter?? (AircamperN11MS)
12. 07:48 AM - Re: Carb heat Filter?? (Jack Phillips)
13. 07:59 AM - Re: Carb heat Filter?? (AircamperN11MS)
14. 07:59 AM - toilet paper can be dangerous (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
15. 09:06 AM - Re: Carb heat Filter?? (Chris Rusch)
16. 11:17 AM - Re: Garmin 1000 video (tkreiner)
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| Subject: | Re: Axle thickness? |
Mine are 1 1/2" bronze flange bearings I made
myself. The wheel needed some creative
machining as my lathe/mill isn't big enough
to chuck a 19" wheel. I made an extension
for the outer side to place the bearings an
extra 1 1/2" further apart. I did everything I
could to keep the wheel as close as possible
to the bungies thus reducing the bending
moment on the axle. The only things not
mounted on the airframe are the wing panels
and fabric. The engine is 260 lb. There is no
bending on the axle evident at all. It is 1 1/2"
with 0.125 wall. I have purposely designed
my brake system to not require anything
welded to the axle. Will the 120 odd lb of
wing panels make the axle bend? I don't
know. Hopefully I will find out by the Fall.
All in good time.
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Aho
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:59 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness?
I will have to look at that setup. My wire wheel hubs are designed to
slip on to the 1.5" axel.
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness?
> From: n0kkj@yahoo.com
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:48:13 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Hey Craig,
>
> Something to consider if you don't want to heat treat, is buying a
tube already in the state you want and then use a method that doesn't
require welding on the tube.
>
> 2RN has a 3/16 wall tube, but it has 1" solid inserts that go
through the 1" ID bearings in the wheels (not sure of your setup). I
imagine the 1" inserts (which have a 1/16 wall sleeve to make up the
difference between 1 1/2OD, 1 1/8ID - 3/16 wall) do strengthen things up
a bit more. Also has a free floating plate with the brake calipers. Anti
rotation is via short cables so no welding is required.
>
> It's been stressed enough to severely bend up a wheel with no ill
effects on the axle, so it's a proven system.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=399359#399359
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No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
04/25/13
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| Subject: | Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam |
Being a bit short torso'd,well, maybe short all over.
I was 5' 8 1/2" when younger but now seem to
have lost an inch of that somehow. Anyway,this
means that my shoulders don't stick up above
the turtle deck. THAT means my shoulder
harness can safely route through the top edge of
the seat back. I have cabled the two straps into
one that goes back to the tail post. The rod that
fits is 1\2" dia 6061-T6 alum. The black bits on the
tail rod are rubber tube lengths to keep the cable
centered.
If you need them higher and also don't want to cut
into the back then possibly my first idea might
give you a start. That's the drawing. The bumps
were going to be fabric covered balsa.
Clif
> I've seen several Piets and they do NOT have shoulder harnesses - just
> seat belts. Does anyone use a 4-point harness in the back seat or is it
> tradition to use only a lap belt?
since the seat back is built-in to the frame - there will have to be some
serious wood cutting to install the shoulder harness.
.
> Jim McWhorter
> N687MB (New Owner)
> Culpeper, VA KCJR
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Congratulations Bill!
Great number choice too ;)
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Earl Brown
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I
intended to be.
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| Subject: | Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam |
Jim,
I see you have two (VNE) speeds. I think the 100 MPH should be the correct one.
You may want to do your own testing to see if all the different numbers do
match your planes performance. What better way to learn about your new plane.
Have fun flying and wear that open cockpit smile with pride.
Cheers,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Congratulation Bill,
What a great feeling when you get the signed docs saying you can fly it. Now go
make an airplane out of it and fly.
Happy Landings,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Ruddder Horn Repair |
Thanks for letting me know.- The permissions on Picasa were not set corre
ctly. =0AEveryone should be able to see these photos of the rudder horn fai
lure now.=0A=0ABest Regards,=0AAndy Abreu=0AKTDZ =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________
_____________________=0A From: Jack <jack@textors.com>=0ATo: "pietenpol-lis
t@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Thursday, April 25
, 2013 1:00 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ruddder Horn Repair=0A =0A=0A
=0AAndy the link said page not found=0A=0ASent from my iPad=0AJack Textor
=0A=0AOn Apr 24, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Andre Abreu <andre_abreu_2000@yahoo.com
> wrote:=0A=0A=0AThe Rudder Horn on 6186L broke.- =0A>We removed it from
the aircraft and made a repair... just in time for flying season.=0A>=0A>He
re are some pictures.=0A>http://http://tinyurl.com/aqe27h3=0A>=0A>Andy Abre
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| Subject: | Re: Ruddder Horn Repair |
It worked thanks Andy
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Apr 26, 2013, at 7:39 AM, Andre Abreu <andre_abreu_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks for letting me know. The permissions on Picasa were not set correc
tly.
> Everyone should be able to see these photos of the rudder horn failure now
.
>
> Best Regards,
> Andy Abreu
> KTDZ
>
>
> From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
> To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ruddder Horn Repair
>
> Andy the link said page not found
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Jack Textor
>
> On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Andre Abreu <andre_abreu_2000@yahoo.com> wro
te:
>
>> The Rudder Horn on 6186L broke.
>> We removed it from the aircraft and made a repair... just in time for fly
ing season.
>>
>> Here are some pictures.
>> http://http://tinyurl.com/aqe27h3
>>
>> Andy Abreu
>> KTDZ
>
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Well, that Newt is not such a bad guy after all.
Stinemetze
do not archive
>>> "BYD" <billsayre@ymail.com> 4/25/2013 5:14 PM >>>
FYI
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| Subject: | Re: Axle thickness? |
Thanks for all the input....im going to order up the .188 wall tube today.
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NX321LR
Fully Assembled
Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
Wings covered and primed, one painted
Mitsubishi Powered
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| Subject: | Carb heat Filter?? |
Ive been looking at various carb heat designs, and i notice none of them have air
filters on the carb heat side??? am I missing something? i would think you
would still want the air filterd, or am i over thinking this.
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Fully Assembled
Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
Wings covered and primed, one painted
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| Subject: | Re: Carb heat Filter?? |
Chris,
the standard is that it is unfiltered. Just be cautious when operating it on the
ground and on dirt strips. I try not to fly through dust storms, so in the
air your engine should be just fine.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Carb heat Filter?? |
I've never seen an air filter on the carb heat side. Pulling carb heat
serves two purposes - it provides warmer air to prevent or remove carburetor
ice, but it also provides an alternate air source in case the air filter
becomes clogged.
This saved my butt years ago when flying my J-3 Cub. I was playing around
with toilet paper, throwing a roll out the window and letting it unroll and
stream down, then seeing how many times I could cut the paper before it got
to the ground. I found the best way was to just do a series of tight loops,
hitting the paper at the bottom of each loop. On one pass, I hit it right
at the wingtip, catching it in the wingtip vortex. When I made the next
loop, I found this beautiful spiral of toilet paper floating in the sky. I
couldn't resist aiming for the very center of it, which I managed to hit.
Big mistake. That mass of toilet paper packed into the carb air filter and
immediately choked off the airflow. The engine sputtered and almost died
before I managed to pull the carb heat and open up a new air source.
Once I got it on the ground (I was right over the airport), I had to pull
handfuls of smoldering toilet paper out of the cooling shrouds, in addition
to peeling it out of the air filter. Not the smartest thing I've ever done
with an airplane. But it was fun!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Rusch
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:28 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Carb heat Filter??
Ive been looking at various carb heat designs, and i notice none of them
have air filters on the carb heat side??? am I missing something? i would
think you would still want the air filterd, or am i over thinking this.
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NX321LR
Fully Assembled
Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
Wings covered and primed, one painted
Mitsubishi Powered
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| Subject: | Re: Carb heat Filter?? |
Jack,
Great story. i have never tried cutting TP by doing loops. I like the idea.
I have only gone in circles. I wasn't taking full advantage of the three dimensional
world we pilots live in.
I may try that next time.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | toilet paper can be dangerous |
Hmmm....never had it block my air intake Jack but I did have it jamb up into the
engine cooling
eyebrows too one day and start to smolder on the top of those hot,hot cooling fins.
I landed promptly and
plucked the wad out trailing chards of tissue from the landing gear and X brace
cables under the belly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGJx9mpJ--Y
FF to 0:46 to see the action begin here with this pilot cutting toilet paper at
Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome in NY.
Crepe paper rolls are lots of fun to drop and slice too. I usually do red, white,
and blue rolls on the 4th of July
if the weather permits.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Carb heat Filter?? |
Great information Jack Thanks! ok, then that part is done! I did put a screen in
front of the heat box opening though.
jack(at)bedfordlandings.c wrote:
> I've never seen an air filter on the carb heat side. Pulling carb heat
> serves two purposes - it provides warmer air to prevent or remove carburetor
> ice, but it also provides an alternate air source in case the air filter
> becomes clogged.
>
> This saved my butt years ago when flying my J-3 Cub. I was playing around
> with toilet paper, throwing a roll out the window and letting it unroll and
> stream down, then seeing how many times I could cut the paper before it got
> to the ground. I found the best way was to just do a series of tight loops,
> hitting the paper at the bottom of each loop. On one pass, I hit it right
> at the wingtip, catching it in the wingtip vortex. When I made the next
> loop, I found this beautiful spiral of toilet paper floating in the sky. I
> couldn't resist aiming for the very center of it, which I managed to hit.
> Big mistake. That mass of toilet paper packed into the carb air filter and
> immediately choked off the airflow. The engine sputtered and almost died
> before I managed to pull the carb heat and open up a new air source.
>
> Once I got it on the ground (I was right over the airport), I had to pull
> handfuls of smoldering toilet paper out of the cooling shrouds, in addition
> to peeling it out of the air filter. Not the smartest thing I've ever done
> with an airplane. But it was fun!
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> --
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NX321LR
Fully Assembled
Tail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.
Wings covered and primed, one painted
Mitsubishi Powered
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 1000 video |
Oscar,
This just in... From this mornings EAA email.
https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/865575786
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Tom Kreiner
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