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1. 05:44 AM - Re: Plans inconsistency (Isablcorky@aol.com)
2. 05:58 AM - Re: Plans inconsistency (C N Campbell)
3. 07:28 AM - Wicks 4130 Dillsburg (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
4. 07:51 AM - Re: Wicks 4130 Dillsburg (Jack)
5. 07:58 AM - Re: Wicks 4130 Dillsburg (Dick N)
6. 10:50 AM - Re: I Forgot to Add Proof (aerocarjake)
7. 12:37 PM - Re: Wicks 4130 Dillsburg (DandD Boyd)
8. 12:47 PM - Re: Wicks 4130 Dillsburg (shad bell)
9. 02:19 PM - Re: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
10. 05:13 PM - Logbook (airlion2@gmail.com)
11. 05:25 PM - Re: Logbook (Jack)
12. 05:37 PM - Re: Logbook (Gary Boothe)
13. 06:04 PM - Re: Logbook (tools)
14. 06:23 PM - Re: Logbook (Jack Phillips)
15. 10:41 PM - Re: Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: Plans inconsistency |
In a message dated 5/2/2013 6:26:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
cncampbell@windstream.net writes:
My full-size rib plan measures 27-11/16 spar to spar. That's the reason
that full-size rib plan should not be used to build your rib jig with.
Paper shrinks or expands with the changes in temperature and humidity. On the
main wing plan, there is a drawing at the top of the page giving the
dimensions on how to lay out the wing rib. Suggest you use that wing rib plan
to
decorate your shop wall and lay out the rib on the piece of whatever you
are going to use for the jig, using the diminsions from the main drawing.
Then, come in 6-3/4 inches from the front of the rib to the front of the
spar (if you plan to use a 1-inch thick spar) use 7 inches from the front of
the rib if you're using a 3/4 inch thick spar (which is what I did). Then
use the wing rib plan to establish the verticals and diagonal pieces. KEEP
THE 27-3/4 DIMENSION FROM THE REAR OF THE FRONT SPAR TO THE FRONT OF THE
REAR SPAR. Chuck
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From: _Isablcorky@aol.com_ (mailto:Isablcorky@aol.com)
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:41 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Plans inconsistency
Pieters,
Had this problem 13 years ago and have forgotten how it was solved. Spar
distances. The fullsize layout indicates 27 3/4 in distance between spars
inside measurements. If you measure the layout you will find a distance of 28
1/4. Who should I believe.
Need your comments before I cut wood.
Corky
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Starting over today on the rib jig. Thanks
Corky
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| Subject: | Re: Plans inconsistency |
Anything else you need advice about don't lhesitate to yell! The guys
on this list are more than happy to expound on their vast store of
knowledge :>) Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Plans inconsistency
In a message dated 5/2/2013 6:26:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
cncampbell@windstream.net writes:
My full-size rib plan measures 27-11/16 spar to spar. That's the
reason that full-size rib plan should not be used to build your rib jig
with. Paper shrinks or expands with the changes in temperature and
humidity. On the main wing plan, there is a drawing at the top of the
page giving the dimensions on how to lay out the wing rib. Suggest you
use that wing rib plan to decorate your shop wall and lay out the rib on
the piece of whatever you are going to use for the jig, using the
diminsions from the main drawing. Then, come in 6-3/4 inches from the
front of the rib to the front of the spar (if you plan to use a 1-inch
thick spar) use 7 inches from the front of the rib if you're using a 3/4
inch thick spar (which is what I did). Then use the wing rib plan to
establish the verticals and diagonal pieces. KEEP THE 27-3/4 DIMENSION
FROM THE REAR OF THE FRONT SPAR TO THE FRONT OF THE REAR SPAR. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:41 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Plans inconsistency
Pieters,
Had this problem 13 years ago and have forgotten how it was
solved. Spar distances. The fullsize layout indicates 27 3/4 in distance
between spars inside measurements. If you measure the layout you will
find a distance of 28 1/4. Who should I believe.
Need your comments before I cut wood.
Corky
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Starting over today on the rib jig. Thanks
Corky
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| Subject: | Wicks 4130 Dillsburg |
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Of possible interest. I know Wicks probably isn't the most popular airc
raft supply house anymore but to me they
were the best when building my Piet. ASSCO (Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Co.) was, by comparison, in my years of building
much less-aircraft knowledgeable, messed up more orders and had more back-
ordered items than Wicks ever had. I don't know
if that is true today but I was much happier with my dealings with Wicks ov
er Aircraft Spruce in every way.
MikeC.
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| Subject: | Re: Wicks 4130 Dillsburg |
I've been very happy with Wicks...
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On May 3, 2013, at 9:28 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LL
C]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
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> Of possible interest. I know Wicks probably isn=99t the most pop
ular aircraft supply house anymore but to me they
> were the best when building my Piet. ASSCO (Aircraft Spruce & Specialt
y Co.) was, by comparison, in my years of building
> much less-aircraft knowledgeable, messed up more orders and had more back
-ordered items than Wicks ever had. I don=99t know
> if that is true today but I was much happier with my dealings with Wicks o
ver Aircraft Spruce in every way.
>
> MikeC.
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| Subject: | Re: Wicks 4130 Dillsburg |
Hey Mike
I agree completely. Scott Wick has been very good to Piet builders over
the years, he donates all of the wng cap strips for our workshop at SNF
and other stuff we use.
Dick N.
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From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:28 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wicks 4130 Dillsburg
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/index.html
Of possible interest. I know Wicks probably isn't the most popular
aircraft supply house anymore but to me they
were the best when building my Piet. ASSCO (Aircraft Spruce &
Specialty Co.) was, by comparison, in my years of building
much less-aircraft knowledgeable, messed up more orders and had more
back-ordered items than Wicks ever had. I don't know
if that is true today but I was much happier with my dealings with
Wicks over Aircraft Spruce in every way.
MikeC.
From: Wicks Aircraft Supply [mailto:wicksaircraft@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:25 AM
To: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]
Subject: 4130 Dillsburg
Visit our website!!
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that we are stocked full of 4130 tubing. We have in recent months
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on multiple lengths. And can ship most orders same day. Also, all of our
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| Subject: | Re: I Forgot to Add Proof |
Beautiful job on your baseboard and trim. It's hard to see it exactly with those
ribs in the way, but nice work... (ha!)
Keep it up Terry - awesome.....!!
Definitely do not archive
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Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Wicks 4130 Dillsburg |
I got most of my building supplies from Wicks. Fast, friendly, helpful
over the phone.
Dave Boyd
Champaign, IL
NX7710J
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
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> Hey Mike
> I agree completely. Scott Wick has been very good to Piet builders over
> the years, he donates all of the wng cap strips for our workshop at SNF a
nd
> other stuff we use.
> Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: Wicks 4130 Dillsburg |
The only problem I had with Dillsburg was that some of his tubing was from
China.=C2- It has a dull matte finish compared to the "good" stuff which
has the shiny finish.=C2-He told me when I ordered a few years back that
he got it cheap because he got it right off the boat, straight from the mil
ls over seas.=C2- The tubing seems to be ok but I haven't put it in servi
ce yet, hope it doesn't crack on me.=C2- I have never had tubing from A.S
.S. or Wicks with the matte finish, it is always shiny and black.
=C2-
For what it's worth,
=C2-
Shad
--- On Fri, 5/3/13, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wicks 4130 Dillsburg
I've been very happy with Wicks...
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On May 3, 2013, at 9:28 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, L
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| Subject: | Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam |
UNCLASSIFIED
Clif, How tall are you? I am 5ft 7.5 in. I am build normally, not with a clownishly
short torso ;+) I am looking at slightly modifying my plane to have a similar
setup to yours.
BTW Great pictures, they tell me a lot.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On 04/26/13, Clif Dawson wrote:
> Being a bit short torso'd,well, maybe short all over.
> I was 5' 8 1/2" when younger but now seem to
> have lost an inch of that somehow. Anyway,this
> means that my shoulders don't stick up above
> the turtle deck. THAT means my shoulder
> harness can safely route through the top edge of
> the seat back. I have cabled the two straps into
> one that goes back to the tail post. The rod that
> fits is 1\2" dia 6061-T6 alum. The black bits on the
> tail rod are rubber tube lengths to keep the cable
> centered.
> If you need them higher and also don't want to cut
> into the back then possibly my first idea might
> give you a start. That's the drawing. The bumps
> were going to be fabric covered balsa.
>
> Clif
>
> >I've seen several Piets and they do NOT have shoulder harnesses - just seat
belts. Does anyone use a 4-point harness in the back seat or is it tradition to
use only a lap belt?
> since the seat back is built-in to the frame - there will have to be some serious
wood cutting to install the shoulder harness.
> .
> >Jim McWhorter
> >N687MB (New Owner)
> >Culpeper, VA KCJR
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Hey all. What kind of notations do I have to log in my logbook after my complete
rebuild. Do I just treat it as an annual and note the repairs made ? See you
in Brodhead. Cheers Gardiner ( airlion2@gmail.com
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Gardiner and others the last few days I have not been able to access the attachment
links, I receive file not found 404... Happening to others?
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On May 3, 2013, at 7:13 PM, airlion2@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hey all. What kind of notations do I have to log in my logbook after my complete
rebuild. Do I just treat it as an annual and note the repairs made ? See you
in Brodhead. Cheers Gardiner ( airlion2@gmail.com
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Me too.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 3, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
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> Gardiner and others the last few days I have not been able to access the attachment
links, I receive file not found 404... Happening to others?
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> Sent from my iPad
> Jack Textor
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> On May 3, 2013, at 7:13 PM, airlion2@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Hey all. What kind of notations do I have to log in my logbook after my complete
rebuild. Do I just treat it as an annual and note the repairs made ? See
you in Brodhead. Cheers Gardiner ( airlion2@gmail.com
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As far as I know, that's all that is required. Didn't change anything from original
did ya, like different motor or something?
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That's all you need to do, Gardiner.Since enough time has elapsed to require
another Condition Inspection, do the inspection noting all the repairs made.
Sign it off as a normal inspection (you do have the Repairman's Certificate,
don't you?).
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Hey all. What kind of notations do I have to log in my logbook after my
complete rebuild. Do I just treat it as an annual and note the repairs made
? See you in Brodhead. Cheers Gardiner ( airlion2@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: A Pietenpol named Mr. Sam |
Good Lord! That was my last hieght assesment also.
I appear tobe following in my family's footsteps. My
Dad was 5' 11 in his heyday but by 86 was 5 ' 5".
I'm going to need a thick cushion down the road!!
Clif
More pics here;
http://www.clifdawson.ca/
> UNCLASSIFIED
> Clif, How tall are you? I am 5ft 7.5 in. I am build normally, not with a
> clownishly short torso ;+) I am looking at slightly modifying my plane to
> have a similar setup to yours.
>
> BTW Great pictures, they tell me a lot.
>
> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
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