---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/15/13: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:15 AM - Flight Lessons (John Francis) 2. 03:12 AM - Re: Turnbuckle Cleanup (Bill Church) 3. 04:09 AM - Re: Flight Lessons (Charles Burkholder) 4. 04:30 AM - Re: Flight Lessons (John Francis) 5. 05:06 AM - Re: Re: Flight Lessons (Charles Burkholder) 6. 05:06 AM - Re: Re: Flight Lessons (Charles Burkholder) 7. 06:18 AM - Capstrip Bending (Charles Burkholder) 8. 06:18 AM - Capstrip Bending (Charles Burkholder) 9. 07:24 AM - Re: Re: Turnbuckle Cleanup (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 10. 07:25 AM - Re: Flight Lessons (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 11. 07:42 AM - MH Proffit (skipgadd@earthlink.net) 12. 09:51 AM - Re: Flight Lessons (Michael Perez) 13. 10:10 AM - Re: Flight Lessons (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 14. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: spruce capstrip (Lion Mason) 15. 11:45 AM - ELTs and Transponders (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 16. 02:35 PM - Re: ELTs and Transponders (Jack Phillips) 17. 03:45 PM - Re: spruce capstrip (jarheadpilot82) 18. 05:48 PM - Re: My Days Work (taildrags) 19. 06:00 PM - Re: ELTs (taildrags) 20. 07:10 PM - Re: My Days Work (Mark Roberts) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:15:07 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flight Lessons From: "John Francis" My instructor uses this software on his ipad and sends me an email when he gets home with the day's tracks. Really cool to see what you actually did. -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400667#400667 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/photo_2_151.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/photo_1_171.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:12:39 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turnbuckle Cleanup From: "Bill Church" I'd keep the turnbuckles away from CLR. It is basically (no pun intended) an acid, and not recommended for use on metals, other than stainless steel. If one was to dip the turnbuckle barrels in CLR, the acid would get into the internal threads, and etch away at the metal. That is not a good thing. Bill C. Michael Perez wrote: > Curious if anyone has tried some of the tarnish cleaners seen advertised on TV. These are usually shown being so effective that you need only dip the tarnished part in the cleaner and remove it...presto, clean. I believe one such item is called CLR. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400669#400669 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:24 AM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flight Lessons Hi John what airport is that? CB ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Francis" Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:14 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flight Lessons > > My instructor uses this software on his ipad and sends me an email when he > gets home with the day's tracks. Really cool to see what you actually > did. > > -------- > John Francis > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400667#400667 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/photo_2_151.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/photo_1_171.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:10 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight Lessons From: "John Francis" Dayton, OH Wright Brothers -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400671#400671 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:46 AM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight Lessons wow isn't that cool I thought it looked like MGY. I've flown in and out of there alot during my training.... cb ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Francis" Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:29 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight Lessons > > Dayton, OH Wright Brothers > > -------- > John Francis > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400671#400671 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:46 AM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight Lessons wow isn't that cool I thought it looked like MGY. I've flown in and out of there alot during my training last fall.... cb ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Francis" Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:29 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flight Lessons > > Dayton, OH Wright Brothers > > -------- > John Francis > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400671#400671 > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:23 AM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Capstrip Bending Here's my capstrip soaking method. My dad's a plumber so I stole an 18" length of pvc pipe out of his truck, heated the end up with a torch and then clamped it in the vice, sealing the one end. Fill with boiling water and wait for 10 min, empty and refill since it's a small amount of water and cools quickly. did that about 3 times, stick it into the jig and tada!! I built my first rib for the center section. Tweaking it this morning getting it to perfectly match the wing rib that it will be beside.... cb ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:27 AM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Capstrip Bending Here's my capstrip soaking method. My dad's a plumber so I stole an 18" length of pvc pipe out of his truck, heated the end up with a torch and then clamped it in the vice, sealing the one end. Fill with boiling water and wait for 10 min, empty and refill since it's a small amount of water and cools quickly. did that about 3 times, stick it into the jig and tada!! I built my first rib for the center section. Tweaking it this morning getting it to perfectly match the wing rib that it will be beside.... cb ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:22 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turnbuckle Cleanup UNCLASSIFIED Asked a buddy who does Reloading about a brass tumbler. he uses an ultrasonic cleaner instead. I may try that. Any thoughts? Blue Skies, Steve D On 05/15/13, Bill Church wrote: > > I'd keep the turnbuckles away from CLR. It is basically (no pun intended) an acid, and not recommended for use on metals, other than stainless steel. If one was to dip the turnbuckle barrels in CLR, the acid would get into the internal threads, and etch away at the metal. That is not a good thing. > Bill C. > > Michael Perez wrote: > > > Curious if anyone has tried some of the tarnish cleaners seen advertised on TV. These are usually shown being so effective that you need only dip the tarnished part in the cleaner and remove it...presto, clean. I believe one such item is called CLR. > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400669#400669 > > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:25:44 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flight Lessons UNCLASSIFIED One thought about making your training efficient. Use Microsoft Flightsim to practice what you are going to go do and to review what ;you just did. Not loggable but very affordable. Even reccomended by Ron Machado. Blue Skies, Steve D On 05/15/13, John Francis wrote: > > My instructor uses this software on his ipad and sends me an email when he gets home with the day's tracks. Really cool to see what you actually did. > > -------- > John Francis > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400667#400667 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/photo_2_151.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/photo_1_171.jpg > > > > UNCLASSIFIED ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:50 AM PST US From: "skipgadd@earthlink.net" Subject: Pietenpol-List: MH Proffit I received this email from Mike Weeden of the Brodhead EAA. MH from Kentucky has been a mainstay at the Brodhead Piet flyin for years. Skip MH Proffitt is suffering from pancreatic cancer that has eluded surgery and treatment and has matasticized. They decided to do hospice at home. I spoke with Delores this evening to see if I could visit but he has deteriorated past where he can take visitors. Family is staying close. She has not made it to Brodhead the last couple years but understands how important the fly-in is to MH each year. He loves hearing from callers and if you get a chance to call or email I'm sure they will appreciate it. She said Doc Mosher called and left a message and I reminded her that Doc has been the main fly-in organizer recent years. I have an email for MH: idrp40 (at sign) earthlink.net . If you call, you may have to leave a message but be sure to identify yourself so he knows who's thinking of him (270) 563-4029. If you know how to contact anyone else that may be interested in MH's condition, please do so as the letter he wrote for publication may come out too late. Mike ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:51:25 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flight Lessons I actually do have FSX, among others... Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com One thought about making your training efficient. Use Microsoft Flightsim to practice what you are going to go do and to review what ;you just did. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:10:55 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flight Lessons UNCLASSIFIED I used it in Iraq when teaching ground school to demostrate some principles. Find out from your flight instructor what he has planned for your next several flights, What he expects of you and how you can prepare. I would let him know what you are doing. You may have to show him the program. It will not get you ready to drive a taildragger on the ground, But you will understand the principles of turns around a point. Flying the traffic pattern and so on. My FSX has a flight school taught by Ron Machado, You should be able to follow along with him and your instructor. You can also take a virtual look at the airports you are going to fly to and the terrain you will fly through. In other words you can rehearse your crosscountry flights, including looking for emergiency landing spots on the way. Blue Skies, Steve D On 05/15/13, Michael Perez wrote: > > I actually do have FSX, among others... > > Michael Perez > Pietenpol HINT Videos > Karetaker Aero > www.karetakeraero.com > > > One thought about making your training efficient. Use Microsoft Flightsim to practice what you are going to go do and to review what ;you just did. > > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:38:17 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: spruce capstrip From: Lion Mason Terry hand. Are you going to brodhead in July? I am planning on flying up on Monday to allow for weather . Cheers, Gardiner. Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2013, at 9:06 PM, "jarheadpilot82" wrote: > > Jack, > > As long as you don't ask what's in it, and what the casing is traditionally made of. > > -------- > Semper Fi, > > Terry Hand > Athens, GA > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400595#400595 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:45:58 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELTs and Transponders UNCLASSIFIED I am interested in what brand ELTs people are using. I would prefer to use the SPOT GPS following system, But if I travel more than 50 miles from my home airport I am required to have an ELT. Cheap is good. I am using one in my Vtail that meets the regs, is only 121.5 freq and uses D coppertop batteries. (don't underestimate the cost of "custom" batteries on an ELT.) I am also on the edge of the San Antonio International Airport class C airspace and may want to be able to fly closer to town. So a transponder may be required. Same question: what is an affordable soulution to getting a transponder for use in a Piet? Besides, in some busy airspace it is a smart option. Blue Skies, Steve D On 05/14/13, Fun2av8 wrote: > > where are folks mounting their ELTs in their Piets? > > -------- > Jim McWhorter > N687MB (New Owner) > Culpeper, VA KCJR > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400655#400655 > > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:35:55 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: ELTs and Transponders Steve, I have an Ameri-King AK-450 ELT in my Pietenpol. Nice thing about this ELT is it uses regular Duracell "D" cell batteries, rather than a special high dollar battery. Of course, if we're mandated to go to 406 MHz ELTs, it becomes an expensive and fairly unattractive paperweight Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:46 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELTs and Transponders UNCLASSIFIED I am interested in what brand ELTs people are using. I would prefer to use the SPOT GPS following system, But if I travel more than 50 miles from my home airport I am required to have an ELT. Cheap is good. I am using one in my Vtail that meets the regs, is only 121.5 freq and uses D coppertop batteries. (don't underestimate the cost of "custom" batteries on an ELT.) I am also on the edge of the San Antonio International Airport class C airspace and may want to be able to fly closer to town. So a transponder may be required. Same question: what is an affordable soulution to getting a transponder for use in a Piet? Besides, in some busy airspace it is a smart option. Blue Skies, Steve D On 05/14/13, Fun2av8 wrote: > > where are folks mounting their ELTs in their Piets? > > -------- > Jim McWhorter > N687MB (New Owner) > Culpeper, VA KCJR > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400655#400655 > > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:45:04 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: spruce capstrip From: "jarheadpilot82" Gardiner, I will call you tomorrow to discuss. I am working on it. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400713#400713 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:55 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Days Work From: "taildrags" So, Dick's work is conservative. He installed a Rotec radial on his beautiful "woody Piet", but Rotec lists the dry weight at about 224 lbs. and if the Ford engine weighs 244, he really didn't affect the W&B very much. The Rotec is rated at about 110 HP at 2400 propeller RPM, so that's roughly more than twice the power of the Ford inline four. Better climb. I don't know if Mr. Pietenpol ever flew a version of his Air Camper with a radial. Does anyone know? -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400718#400718 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:00:30 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: ELTs From: "taildrags" The ELT on Scout is installed on a scrap piece of aluminum sheet that is mounted between the lower longerons in the space behind the pilot's seat. Roughly the same space as the walking beam for the elevators. That sheet serves as the ground plane for the ELT whip antenna as well as the VHF COMM bent whip for the handheld. Corky originally installed the ELT on the floorboard up between the passenger's rudder pedals, but it got dislodged in the nose-over and rather than put it back up there, I followed recommendations in Uncle Tony Bingelis' books (and elsewhere) and tried to locate it in the tailcone area where it would better survive a crash. [Gulp... did I just use that word?] My ELT is the old useless 121.5Mhz style that gets me a sign-off at inspection time but may not do much else in a real crash. I'm not so sure I want to be located if I'm ever in a real crash though, since I may find myself in a race with Dr. Alzheimer one day and I don't want him or the family to find me. (Wait. What day is today?) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400720#400720 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:49 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: My Days Work From: "Mark Roberts" My aircraft instructor at the high school I attended in Apex NC was an old Air Force F-104 pilot. He used to say "Boys, with enough thrust, you don't need wings...". So, now that I think about it, what's all the fuss about Riblett vs Original air foil... " :) cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca wrote: > With the weight and balance issues involved I think > I'd be more worried about all that rapidly spining > metal in the three stage blower being in such close > proximity to the family jewels! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ha!! > > > > That and the re-worked Rolls Royce Merlin I have the core for... > > > > > > > > Crud, did I just let that slip? Anyone used an old Rolls Royce 12 cylinder > > on one of these before? 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