---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/20/13: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:00 AM - Progress this Weekend (pringljo) 2. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: How many of you are building/have built in your 2 car garage (Michael Perez) 3. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: How many of you are building/have built in your 2 car garage (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 4. 10:08 AM - Re: Progress this Weekend (nightmare) 5. 10:44 AM - Re: Progress this Weekend (pringljo) 6. 12:15 PM - Question about hardware (pringljo) 7. 12:20 PM - Re: Question about hardware (womenfly2) 8. 12:28 PM - Fw: A-65 for sale (jeff wilson) 9. 12:30 PM - Re: Question about hardware (pringljo) 10. 12:32 PM - Re: Progress this Weekend (nightmare) 11. 12:34 PM - A-65 for sale (jeff wilson) 12. 12:45 PM - Re: Re: Question about hardware (Ken Bickers) 13. 12:45 PM - Re: Re: Progress this Weekend (George Hernandez) 14. 12:57 PM - Re: Re: Question about hardware (John Hofmann) 15. 01:17 PM - Re: A very Generous Pietenpoller (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 16. 01:19 PM - Re: How many of you are building/have built in your 2 car garage (aerocarjake) 17. 01:42 PM - moving a Piet fuselage--Saran wrap style (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 18. 01:45 PM - Re: Question about hardware (Ben Charvet) 19. 01:59 PM - Re: Re: Question about hardware (Craig Aho) 20. 02:05 PM - Alternative Engine Roundup (Oscar Zuniga) 21. 02:09 PM - Re: Question about hardware (Jim Boyer) 22. 03:39 PM - Oklahoma (Jack) 23. 04:02 PM - Re: moving a Piet fuselage--Saran wrap style (dgaldrich) 24. 05:07 PM - Re: Oklahoma (Mark Roberts) 25. 05:42 PM - Re: How many of you are building/have built in your 2 car garage (jarheadpilot82) 26. 06:40 PM - Re: Progress this Weekend (nightmare) 27. 09:23 PM - Re: Oklahoma (K5YAC) 28. 09:37 PM - Re: Oklahoma (K5YAC) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:15 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress this Weekend From: "pringljo" I got my horizontal stabilizer laid out this weekend. I bought a new router table and destroyed a few pieces of nice wood trying to get the rabbet cut into the beams. I finally got some results I am happy with. I am also slowly making progress on my wing ribs. I have 8 made. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400985#400985 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/horizontal_stabilizer_192.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:51 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How many of you are building/have built in your 2 car garage A place to build is one thing, a place(s) to store is another. I do all of my building in my shop and store whatever items are complete, or otherwise in the way, throughout the rest of the house.- Completed wings are in the garage , tail pieces are in the basement, along with the wing struts and t he center section is in our bed room. I keep the completed fuselage in the shop because that is the item I am picking away at with all the little thin gs still to do. Regardless of where you end up, solutions will present themselves as you ge t settled in and you will find clever ways to continue on. Michael Perez =0APietenpol HINT Videos =0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:18 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How many of you are building/have built in your 2 car garage UNCLASSIFIED I just pulled the tail off the plane and moved my fuselage into my one car garage from my hangar. The hangar is 35 minutes away, So I can get a lot more done in my garage. Having said that, I am going to have to do a lot of reorganizing to get some work room in the garage. What seemed a resonable setup before is now far too tight and cluttered. I do have the ability to set up a shade canopy and tables out front and do some work outside. I can also move some items to a small storage area. Wings and tail will stay at the airport. The plan is to finish the fuselage, bring in the tail in, paint it and attach it. Then I will take the fuse and tail feathers back out and bring in the wings. Final assembly will be done at the airport. Then I will figure out how to keep two planes in a one plane hangar. Motorcycle jacks and such may be involved in the answer. A bigger battle is clearing my Personal schedule. The wife and kids are supporting the Pietenpol fix. They often help on little tasks. I have decided to pickle my Vtail Bonanza until the Piet flys. That means no flying for me. I will then get recurrent in a tail dragger and will get the Pietenpol up and flying. Then I can concentrate on some long term projects I want to do on my Bonanza and getting an annual inspection. At that point, I will have a pretty full stable. A fun, cheap, low and slow plane to fly often, and a cross country machine that carries 4. Blue Skies, Steve D. On 05/20/13, Michael Perez wrote: > > A place to build is one thing, a place(s) to store is another. I do all of my building in my shop and store whatever items are complete, or otherwise in the way, throughout the rest of the house. Completed wings are in the garage , tail pieces are in the basement, along with the wing struts and the center section is in our bed room. I keep the completed fuselage in the shop because that is the item I am picking away at with all the little things still to do. > > Regardless of where you end up, solutions will present themselves as you get settled in and you will find clever ways to continue on. > > Michael Perez > Pietenpol HINT Videos > Karetaker Aero > www.karetakeraero.com > > > > UNCLASSIFIED ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress this Weekend From: "nightmare" Way to go. Looking good. Bring back memories of where I was less than a year ago. Keep plugging away. What decisions have you made on what the final project will look like? Gear, etc... Please provide your name too. Thanks; Paul -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400994#400994 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:38 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress this Weekend From: "pringljo" At this point, my plans are: Riblett 612 airfoil. Don't ask why [Twisted Evil] It just seemed like a good idea at the time. Corvair Engine, Make the fuselage 2 inches wider, maybe add the front cockpit door. Otherwise, pretty standard. ( I know, it's not standard.) -------- Joe Pringle Atlanta, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400996#400996 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:50 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question about hardware From: "pringljo" I am about to start having to buy screws and nuts for my project. For a few years, I planned to build a RV, and the thing I heard over and over was to only use aviation grade hardware - nothing from Home Depot. Now, I want to ask you guys what you have used. For example, I have the Vi Kapler hinges, and in trying to learn what kind of screws to use, I just read a thread where people were using SS screws from the local hardware store. Is that what most people do? [Question] -------- Joe Pringle Atlanta, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401002#401002 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:11 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question about hardware From: "womenfly2" I used all AC hardware. If you feel safe flying at 1000 ft with hardware store screws and bolts .... go for it. I would not. Possible some here have. KAP -------- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401003#401003 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:28:19 PM PST US From: jeff wilson Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: A-65 for sale =0AHey guys, I have a real nice A-65-8A=C2- for sale. It was in a Luscomb e 8A that was destroyed in a storm. Hangar fell in on it.=0AA video of it r unning on a test stand can be seen here:=C2-http://youtu.be/isCugvHkXfM =C2-=C2-=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isCugvHkXfM=C2-That was d one in 2010. I purchased it shortly after and intended to put it my Peit. =0ABut I obtained a 0-200 that I=99ll use instead.=0AApprox. 200 SMOH . No data plate. Experimental only. No logs.=C2- Very clean. Chrome cylin ders. Includes a tach from a Cessna that shows approx. the same hours as on the engine.=0AI have more photos and=C2-I=99ll gladly email=C2-t hem on request.=0AAsking $3500 OBO.=C2- No shipping, you pick up. Will de liver within 250 mi.=0A=0AJeff Wilson=0A314-974-4589=0ASt. Louis, MO=0AH49 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:30:42 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question about hardware From: "pringljo" That's kind of what I thought. I just saw other's doing it. Like my mom used to say: "If you saw everybody else jumping off a bridge, would you?" -------- Joe Pringle Atlanta, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401006#401006 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:32:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress this Weekend From: "nightmare" Great Joe; no criticism here. Riblett 613.5, 2 inch wider, front door. Even if the 612 performs the same as original wing, if you decide to stretch a bit, at least you'll have the piece of mind of doing it with a taller spar. More fuel in center section wing too (if going that route). Do you work for one of the airlines? -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401007#401007 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:34:22 PM PST US From: jeff wilson Subject: Pietenpol-List: A-65 for sale =0A=C2-=0A=0A>=0A>=0A>Hey guys, I have a real nice A-65-8A=C2- for sale . It was in a Luscombe 8A that was destroyed in a storm. Hangar fell in on it.=0A>A video of it running on a test stand can be seen here:=C2-http:// youtu.be/isCugvHkXfM=C2-=C2-=0A>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isCugv HkXfM=C2-That was done in 2010. I purchased it shortly after and intended to put it my Peit.=0A>But I obtained a 0-200 that I=99ll use instead .=0A>Approx. 200 SMOH. No data plate. Experimental only. No logs.=C2- Ver y clean. Chrome cylinders. Includes a tach from a Cessna that shows approx. the same hours as on the engine.=0A>I have more photos and=C2-I=99 ll gladly email=C2-them on request.=0A>Asking $3500 OBO.=C2- No shippin g, you pick up. Will deliver within 250 mi.=0A>=0A>Jeff Wilson=0A>jlwilsonn n@yahoo.com=0A>314-974-4589=0A>St. Louis, MO=0A>H49=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question about hardware From: Ken Bickers Joe, the machine screws that fit the Vi Kapler are a fairly special size. Size 8 and (if my memory is correct) 100 degree bevel on the heads. I bought mine through Aircraft Spruce. I suppose hardware stores might carry that type of screw, but I doubt it. And you'd always wonder if the fasteners were good enough. Placing an order through ACS with lots of sizes of AN3 and some AN4, along with some of the specialty items was what I did. Ken On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, pringljo wrote: > > > > That's kind of what I thought. I just saw other's doing it. Like my mom > used to say: "If you saw everybody else jumping off a bridge, would you?" > > -------- > Joe Pringle > Atlanta, GA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401006#401006 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress this Weekend From: George Hernandez Hi Paul!! Any progress on your peit? Sent from my iPad On May 20, 2013, at 15:32, "nightmare" wrote: > > Great Joe; no criticism here. Riblett 613.5, 2 inch wider, front door. Even if the 612 performs the same as original wing, if you decide to stretch a bit, at least you'll have the piece of mind of doing it with a taller spar. More fuel in center section wing too (if going that route). Do you work for one of the airlines? > > -------- > Paul Donahue > Started 8-3-12 > do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401007#401007 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:57:22 PM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question about hardware ACS also has the hardware "kits" that have many common sizes and even come with a little shelf case for a reasonable price. Joe, if you are in Atlanta you can probably drive to ACS East and get hardware easily. John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On May 20, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Ken Bickers wrote: > Joe, the machine screws that fit the Vi Kapler are a fairly special size. Size 8 and (if my memory is correct) 100 degree bevel on the heads. I bought mine through Aircraft Spruce. I suppose hardware stores might carry that type of screw, but I doubt it. And you'd always wonder if the fasteners were good enough. Placing an order through ACS with lots of sizes of AN3 and some AN4, along with some of the specialty items was what I did. Ken > > > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, pringljo wrote: > > That's kind of what I thought. I just saw other's doing it. Like my mom used to say: "If you saw everybody else jumping off a bridge, would you?" > > -------- > Joe Pringle > Atlanta, GA > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401006#401006 > > > > > > > > ========== > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:17:58 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A very Generous Pietenpoller I taxied back to the flight line and shut down with a feeling of elation an d an amazing realization that the plane I am building is exactly the kind o f plane I want to fly. What a great story and experience Brian K. was able to give you this past w eekend Scott and that says a LOT about Brian's trust in your piloting skill s to let you go fly his Pietenpol solo. What a wonderful story and now you know exactly ho w that Piet of yours will fly. They are a very sweet flying airplane and e ven really good crosswind airplanes. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:19:44 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How many of you are building/have built in your 2 car garage From: "aerocarjake" I am building my Pietenpol in two, one-car garages that are separated by a partition wall. I just submitted an article for the BPA Newsletter last week. The article is intended to show some of the ways I get the most out of a small shop. Out of respect for the Doc, you'll have to wait until he publishes the article (otherwise I would have submitted the info here.....) It's not anything secret, I just strive to have an organized/pleasant place to build. It's great to see the workshops/places you all use to build your creations........... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401013#401013 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:42:16 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: moving a Piet fuselage--Saran wrap style When I purchased a framed up Piet fuselage in the middle of winter I just w rapped it in Saran wrap secured with a little duct tape. I drove it from C oncord, NC to Cleveland Ohio in some snowy weather with road salt and slush all over t he place and all arrived nice and dry. (it did act as a weather vane in c rosswinds Ken-I know that uneasy feeling!) Mike C. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:45:43 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Question about hardware AN hardware in my experience more expensive than hardware store stainless. Plus it makes the job look more professional. Ben On 5/20/2013 3:15 PM, pringljo wrote: > > I am about to start having to buy screws and nuts for my project. For a few years, I planned to build a RV, and the thing I heard over and over was to only use aviation grade hardware - nothing from Home Depot. > > Now, I want to ask you guys what you have used. For example, I have the Vi Kapler hinges, and in trying to learn what kind of screws to use, I just read a thread where people were using SS screws from the local hardware store. Is that what most people do? [Question] > > -------- > Joe Pringle > Atlanta, GA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401002#401002 > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:59:59 PM PST US From: Craig Aho Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question about hardware I used almost all AN hardware on my last ship but do remember my Deceased M entor Mr. Dave Warren a respected retired American Airlines aircraft mechan ic and well know at the vintage airplane gatherings like Blakesburg tell m e to use Grade 8 bolts (non AN) for my engine mounting bolts on NX40772 and that is what I did. Always wondered about that. Craig > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question about hardware > From: joseph.pringle@gmail.com > Date: Mon=2C 20 May 2013 12:30:33 -0700 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > m> > > That's kind of what I thought. I just saw other's doing it. Like my mom used to say: "If you saw everybody else jumping off a bridge=2C would you? " > > -------- > Joe Pringle > Atlanta=2C GA > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401006#401006 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:18 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Alternative Engine Roundup > Date: Mon=2C 20 May 2013 13:31:22 -0700 > From: editor@contactmagazine.com > To: corvaircraft@list.corvaircraft.org > Subject: Re: [CorvAircraft] COZY: Alternative Engine Roundup > > You know=2C there's no reason this can't be a West Coast gathering of > Corvairs. > Could someone pass this along to the KR and Pietenpol groups for me pleas e? > It would be awesome to see several Corvair-powered homebuilts there. > > Thanks! > > Pat > > > On Mon=2C May 20=2C 2013 at 1:28 PM=2C Patrick Panzera > wrote: > > > Friends=2C > > > > > > > > The Alternative Engine Roundup is a little over two weeks away. > > > > > > > > Saturday=2C June 8th=2C 2013 is the date. > > > > > > > > CONTACT! Magazine has been sponsoring a free fly-in for the past 10 yea rs. > > It's moved around a little=2C and in 2011 it moved once again. But this year > > it will continue to be held in conjunction with the Golden West Fly-in (as > > it was for the past two years) located in Marysville (Olivehurst)=2C > > California (KMYV) and will be held on Saturday=2C June 8th=2C 2013. The Golden > > West Fly-in on the other hand will be all three days=2C June 7th ' 9t h and > > they permit camping if you are so inclined. > > > > > > > > And as usual=2C it=92s FREE for those who elect to exhibit their plane =2C > > project=2C or engine with us. > > > > > > > > http://www.ContactMagazine.com/roundup.html > > > > > > > > The catch? In order for it to be free=2C you must fly in (or trailer in ) > > with an experimental aircraft that has an "alternative engine" and be > > willing to put it on display with the others. This will entitle you and the > > occupants who flew in with you to attend the fly-in for free- but you m ust > > preregister. > > > > > > > > And for those of you who have an experimental (data plate removed) hot- rod > > Lycoming=2C Continental=2C or any number of non-certified=2C non-auto c onversion > > engines (UL=2C Jabiru=2C Hirth=2C Deltahawk=2C etc.) we consider those an > > "alternative engine" too. > > > > > > > > Please visit http://www.ContactMagazine.com/roundup.html for > > preregistration information. > > > > > > > > If you are flying-in with an aircraft powered by a Subaru=2C Corvair=2C > > Rotary=2C Honda=2C Geo/Suzuki=2C Ford=2C Chevrolet=2C or any other auto conversion > > and would like to present a forum (or even if you are currently buildin g > > one and can't bring it- or CAN bring it on a trailer)=2C please contact me. > > Editor@ContactMagazine.com We'd love to include you in the fun! > > > > > > > > And so that those who are unable to make it to the show this year won't > > feel left out=2C here's some free stuff: > > http://www.contactmagazine.com/FreeLunch.html > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > If you receive more than one of these notices=2C please accept my humbl e > > apology. It most likely means that we are on more than one of the same > > email lists. > > > > And PLEASE help us spread the word by forwarding this note to anyone yo u > > think might benefit from this information. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > [image: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif] > > > > > > > > Patrick Panzera > > > > Editor@ContactMagazine.com > > > > www.ContactMagazine.com > > > > > > > > The next issue of CONTACT! Magazine is seriously delinquent but we hope to > > have it in hand in time for this event. > > > _________________________________________________________ > search the CorvAircraft archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-cvr/se arch. > To change your list options=2C visit http://list.corvaircraft.org/mailman /options/corvaircraft_list.corvaircraft.org > Other CorvAircraft list info is at the top of http://www.corvaircraft.org ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:09:49 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Question about hardware HI Joe, Vi Kaplers hinges are cast for 100 degree aircraft hardware. Machine screws like this are available from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty. The hinges the mselves are not certified aircraft parts but have a long history of good pe rformance without failure. In most cases it does make sense to use aircraft hardware and it really isn't that much more expensive to know you won't tw ict off the screw/bolt head if you tighten with both torque values and comm on sense. My bias. Cheers, Jim B. =C2- ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:39:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oklahoma From: Jack How are our Oklahoma friends doing? Markle you ok? Thinking of you! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:02:52 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: moving a Piet fuselage--Saran wrap style From: "dgaldrich" Here's a picture of the Pietenpol fuselage we (Dick Navrotil, Skip Gadd, Ben Charvet, myself and others) built this last April at Sun n Fun ready for transport to its new owner in South Carolina. I LOVE duck tape, especially the 200 mph variety. It was surprisingly stable considering the amount of area ahead of the front support and, like the finished aircraft, just a bit draggy. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401031#401031 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_1_198.jpg ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:54 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Oklahoma From: "Mark Roberts" Funny Jack, I logged on to ask the same thing... Mark C and Markle I know hail from OK (maybe a bad choice of words under the circumstances.... er... Come from OK...) Status report guys. We wanna know if you are alright. Any others in OK as well... Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401035#401035 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:42:31 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How many of you are building/have built in your 2 car garage From: "jarheadpilot82" I was at Jake's aircraft factory last weekend (he put me to work cleaning it up for the photos to go along with the article!), and it is amazing how much he gets done in two single car garages! He has taken the concept of organizing your workspace to a whole new level. Nicely done. He shows that you can build in smaller spaces than you think. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401038#401038 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:09 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress this Weekend From: "nightmare" Yes thanks: to date, woodwork only completed all ribs, and all tail feathers. Been working on center section past few months. Putting finishing touches on it now. All center section steel work is complete and after the Leading edge ply I think I can call it complete with the exception of the fuel tank. I'll give one more college try gas welding aluminum, but I can't get the the consistency I want. Probably do the tank in 6 months after saving for a tig. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401043#401043 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 09:23:51 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Oklahoma From: "K5YAC" We are ok... heard from Jim on Facebook earlier today. Had a tornado on the ground about 20 miles north of here this afternoon, but just a garden variety thunderstorm at the moment. Steve Ruse is near Norman/OKC area... haven't seen a post from him today. I imagine they are busy down there. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401049#401049 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Oklahoma From: "K5YAC" Just saw a post from Steve's wife, Brittney... she says they are ok too. Listening to the news and they are saying 51 dead... 20 are children. Official on the phone says that there are 40 more deceased being brought in... no count on children or adults... and they expect the number to continue to rise. By far the worst tornado event in OK history. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401050#401050 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.