Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 05/29/13


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:24 AM - Center section (Charles Burkholder)
     2. 04:39 AM - Re: Center section (Jack Phillips)
     3. 05:29 AM - Re: Center section (Charles Burkholder)
     4. 06:27 AM - Re: Center section (nightmare)
     5. 07:12 AM - Re: Re: Center section (Charles Burkholder)
     6. 06:46 PM - Cooling Corvair Engines with J-3 Style Ears (Gary Boothe)
     7. 07:27 PM - minimum equipment list (taildrags)
     8. 07:44 PM - Re: insurance question again. (taildrags)
     9. 08:13 PM - Re: Cooling Corvair Engines with J-3 Style Ears (taildrags)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:24:43 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Burkholder" <born2fly@abcmailbox.net>
    Subject: Center section
    Good morning fellow pietenpolers Just a quick question about the center section. does the 1/8" plywood bottom get bent to match the wing ribs? It only makes sense and from what I could find online that is the case but I'm wanting to make sure..... Regards, Charles B


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    Time: 04:39:34 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
    Subject: Center section
    Yes Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Burkholder Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:25 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section Good morning fellow pietenpolers Just a quick question about the center section. does the 1/8" plywood bottom get bent to match the wing ribs? It only makes sense and from what I could find online that is the case but I'm wanting to make sure..... Regards, Charles B


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    Time: 05:29:37 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Burkholder" <born2fly@abcmailbox.net>
    Subject: Re: Center section
    thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:39 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Center section Yes Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Burkholder Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:25 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section Good morning fellow pietenpolers Just a quick question about the center section. does the 1/8" plywood bottom get bent to match the wing ribs? It only makes sense and from what I could find online that is the case but I'm wanting to make sure..... Regards, Charles B http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 06:27:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Center section
    From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
    Yes. Cut the compression struts to the shape of the under surface. You will also have option of adhering fabric to plywood or , some have (like myself), added faux undersurface cap strips that blend in with nose and tail ribs, to keep look of rest of wing. I plan on drilling small holes in ply where the stitching will go. Not my idea, but I like it. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401510#401510


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    Time: 07:12:17 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Burkholder" <born2fly@abcmailbox.net>
    Subject: Re: Center section
    Yes I am going to add undersurface capstrip as well to make it look like one wing..... gonna start shaping the compression struts tonight... cb ----- Original Message ----- From: "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:25 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center section > <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com> > > Yes. Cut the compression struts to the shape of the under surface. You > will also have option of adhering fabric to plywood or , some have (like > myself), added faux undersurface cap strips that blend in with nose and > tail ribs, to keep look of rest of wing. I plan on drilling small holes in > ply where the stitching will go. Not my idea, but I like it. > > -------- > Paul Donahue > Started 8-3-12 > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401510#401510 > > >


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    Time: 06:46:37 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Cooling Corvair Engines with J-3 Style Ears
    In case any of you Corvair Piet builders are not subscribing to William Wynne's website, here is tonight's link to his thoughts: http://flycorvair.net/2013/05/30/cooling-with-j-3-style-cowls-pietenpols-cub s-biplanes-etc/ Gary Boothe NX308MB


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    Time: 07:27:02 PM PST US
    Subject: minimum equipment list
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    >From my A&P friend, who is also an EAA Tech Counselor and prolific builder and pilot: ================ I attached an article on the minimum requirements for an Amateur Built Experimental aircraft. The minimum requirements fall into three categories for the minimum requirements. Day VFR, Night VFR, and Day/Night IFR. Now assuming the Piet referenced is a non electric, Day VFR Aircraft, if you go down the list, the only piece of Equipment that *MIGHT* be required is an ELT. Everything else is optional. So, to start with, a MEL is not required for an amateur built Experimental aircraft. I have none for any of the three planes I have built. The only requirements are the basic FAA required paperwork such as Airworthiness, operating limitations and current inspection. If this owner chooses to create a MEL for his 2 seat non electric Day VFR Piet, it should only have one item on the list and that is a current ELT. Now, having written the above based on this article from Sport Aviation, I don't know of any DAR that will license a plane without items 1 - 7, 9, 12, 15, and 23. Based on that, he could create a MEL with those items on it, but the reality is that he should call it a PMEC (Personal Minimum Equipment Checklist) or something similar so as to not confuse any FAA personnel with a genuine MEL which has legal implications and could be used to ground his aircraft or for an insurance company to bail on a pay out. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401567#401567 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/1103_abea_requirements_122.pdf


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    Time: 07:44:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: insurance question again.
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    I'll add my data point. I've been flying without insurance almost since day one, but when I moved to Medford (controlled field; international, port of entry, etc.) I couldn't rent a hangar without carrying liability so I took out a policy. Pretty reasonable, in line with what others have quoted for theirs (couple of hundred $$ a year, through Falcon). I have a couple of hundred hours in taildraggers. I am the only covered pilot (operator). Nothing that I've seen in the policy about limiting passengers or rides. I got to thinking about this liability insurance as I watched my neighboring pilot/hangar friends operate their airplanes around me... immaculate Beech Duke, gorgeous RV-8, very nice Skylane, and so forth. If I'm hand-propping Scout and the airplane gets away from me and decides to go kiss up to that Duke, I'm suddenly out of sport aviation if I don't have some liability insurance. Even worse if Scout goes after a warm body, with or without me at the controls. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401569#401569


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    Time: 08:13:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cooling Corvair Engines with J-3 Style Ears
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Well worth reading, too. Thanks for reminding me about William's blog. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401570#401570




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