---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/29/13: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:24 AM - Center section (Charles Burkholder) 2. 04:39 AM - Re: Center section (Jack Phillips) 3. 05:29 AM - Re: Center section (Charles Burkholder) 4. 06:27 AM - Re: Center section (nightmare) 5. 07:12 AM - Re: Re: Center section (Charles Burkholder) 6. 06:46 PM - Cooling Corvair Engines with J-3 Style Ears (Gary Boothe) 7. 07:27 PM - minimum equipment list (taildrags) 8. 07:44 PM - Re: insurance question again. (taildrags) 9. 08:13 PM - Re: Cooling Corvair Engines with J-3 Style Ears (taildrags) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:24:43 AM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section Good morning fellow pietenpolers Just a quick question about the center section. does the 1/8" plywood bottom get bent to match the wing ribs? It only makes sense and from what I could find online that is the case but I'm wanting to make sure..... Regards, Charles B ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:34 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Center section Yes Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Burkholder Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:25 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section Good morning fellow pietenpolers Just a quick question about the center section. does the 1/8" plywood bottom get bent to match the wing ribs? It only makes sense and from what I could find online that is the case but I'm wanting to make sure..... Regards, Charles B ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:37 AM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Center section thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:39 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Center section Yes Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Burkholder Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:25 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section Good morning fellow pietenpolers Just a quick question about the center section. does the 1/8" plywood bottom get bent to match the wing ribs? It only makes sense and from what I could find online that is the case but I'm wanting to make sure..... Regards, Charles B http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:55 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center section From: "nightmare" Yes. Cut the compression struts to the shape of the under surface. You will also have option of adhering fabric to plywood or , some have (like myself), added faux undersurface cap strips that blend in with nose and tail ribs, to keep look of rest of wing. I plan on drilling small holes in ply where the stitching will go. Not my idea, but I like it. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401510#401510 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:17 AM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center section Yes I am going to add undersurface capstrip as well to make it look like one wing..... gonna start shaping the compression struts tonight... cb ----- Original Message ----- From: "nightmare" Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:25 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center section > > > Yes. Cut the compression struts to the shape of the under surface. You > will also have option of adhering fabric to plywood or , some have (like > myself), added faux undersurface cap strips that blend in with nose and > tail ribs, to keep look of rest of wing. I plan on drilling small holes in > ply where the stitching will go. Not my idea, but I like it. > > -------- > Paul Donahue > Started 8-3-12 > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401510#401510 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:37 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cooling Corvair Engines with J-3 Style Ears In case any of you Corvair Piet builders are not subscribing to William Wynne's website, here is tonight's link to his thoughts: http://flycorvair.net/2013/05/30/cooling-with-j-3-style-cowls-pietenpols-cub s-biplanes-etc/ Gary Boothe NX308MB ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:02 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: minimum equipment list From: "taildrags" >From my A&P friend, who is also an EAA Tech Counselor and prolific builder and pilot: ================ I attached an article on the minimum requirements for an Amateur Built Experimental aircraft. The minimum requirements fall into three categories for the minimum requirements. Day VFR, Night VFR, and Day/Night IFR. Now assuming the Piet referenced is a non electric, Day VFR Aircraft, if you go down the list, the only piece of Equipment that *MIGHT* be required is an ELT. Everything else is optional. So, to start with, a MEL is not required for an amateur built Experimental aircraft. I have none for any of the three planes I have built. The only requirements are the basic FAA required paperwork such as Airworthiness, operating limitations and current inspection. If this owner chooses to create a MEL for his 2 seat non electric Day VFR Piet, it should only have one item on the list and that is a current ELT. Now, having written the above based on this article from Sport Aviation, I don't know of any DAR that will license a plane without items 1 - 7, 9, 12, 15, and 23. Based on that, he could create a MEL with those items on it, but the reality is that he should call it a PMEC (Personal Minimum Equipment Checklist) or something similar so as to not confuse any FAA personnel with a genuine MEL which has legal implications and could be used to ground his aircraft or for an insurance company to bail on a pay out. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401567#401567 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/1103_abea_requirements_122.pdf ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:59 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: insurance question again. From: "taildrags" I'll add my data point. I've been flying without insurance almost since day one, but when I moved to Medford (controlled field; international, port of entry, etc.) I couldn't rent a hangar without carrying liability so I took out a policy. Pretty reasonable, in line with what others have quoted for theirs (couple of hundred $$ a year, through Falcon). I have a couple of hundred hours in taildraggers. I am the only covered pilot (operator). Nothing that I've seen in the policy about limiting passengers or rides. I got to thinking about this liability insurance as I watched my neighboring pilot/hangar friends operate their airplanes around me... immaculate Beech Duke, gorgeous RV-8, very nice Skylane, and so forth. If I'm hand-propping Scout and the airplane gets away from me and decides to go kiss up to that Duke, I'm suddenly out of sport aviation if I don't have some liability insurance. Even worse if Scout goes after a warm body, with or without me at the controls. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401569#401569 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:05 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cooling Corvair Engines with J-3 Style Ears From: "taildrags" Well worth reading, too. Thanks for reminding me about William's blog. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401570#401570 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.