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1. 05:07 AM - Anchorage Piet Project (Jim Markle)
2. 05:18 AM - Re: Anchorage Piet Project (Jack)
3. 05:57 AM - Re: Re: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary (Michael Perez)
4. 06:47 AM - Re: Re: New Spar (Isablcorky@aol.com)
5. 07:51 AM - Re: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary (Jack Phillips)
6. 07:55 AM - Re: West Coast Piet Fly-In 2014 (AircamperN11MS)
7. 08:02 AM - Re: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary (John Hofmann)
8. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet Fly-In 2014 (Michael Groah)
9. 08:57 AM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet Fly-In 2014 (Jim Boyer)
10. 10:22 AM - Re: projects near Anchorage, AK (taildrags)
11. 10:29 AM - Re: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary (John Egan)
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Subject: | Anchorage Piet Project |
Not sure who sent the Anchorage note but there is a Piet builder in Anchorage,
very nice guy!
At least he was building a few years ago.
Contact me offlist and I'll see if I can find the contact info.
VERY sad to be staying in Oklahoma instead to going to Brodhead!!!! Jim Markle
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Subject: | Re: Anchorage Piet Project |
What Markle! No Brodhead! Very sad...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jun 27, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Not sure who sent the Anchorage note but there is a Piet builder in Anchorage,
very nice guy!
>
> At least he was building a few years ago.
>
> Contact me offlist and I'll see if I can find the contact info.
>
> VERY sad to be staying in Oklahoma instead to going to Brodhead!!!! Jim Markle
>
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Subject: | Re: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary |
I believe I bought both oil temp. and pressure gauges from Summit Racing. T
hey came with multiple fittings and adapted just fine to my engine. The cap
illary tube was more than long enough...I have the excess coiled up in the
instrument panel. I am yet to run the engine, so I can't say how these perf
orm.=0A=0AIf still interested, I can get you pictures and details.=0A=0A=0A
-=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AKaretaker Aero=0Awww.karetake
raero.com
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In a message dated 6/26/2013 11:37:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
taildrags@hotmail.com writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Gary; I had no idea you were in need of spar material or I'd have chimed
in as well. If that spar is Doug fir, I would have offered you any of the
six straight, clear, tight-grained DF spar planks that are sitting in my
hangar, waiting on my next aviation whim. They are rough milled and just
waiting to be run through the planer. However, it looks like you have yourself
a new candidate, ready for duty. I will second, third, and fourth the
sentiment expressed by so many others: Pietenpeople are simply the best.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403502#403502
We have the shop slab poured and the building will follow as the rains
allow. Reminds me of those old MGM movies when it rained more than sunshine but
being on the Gulf its what happens. If you want just crate it all and ship
rail or motor freight, cheapest, as Ill be ready to begin as soon as the
roof is on and my health continues to stabalize.
CMC
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Subject: | Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary |
P/N 10-11700 $71.00 in ACS 2011 catalog, which is the latest I have
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Egan
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary
Thanks Jack, Could you find the part number or description in ACS? I will
search more as well. Before I asked this group, I tried finding these parts
in ACS with no luck, I also tried looking for the correct terminology in the
1939 Continental engine manual, I tried searching in Univair, with no luck,
and I learned a lot from Tony B.
I could go either way, aircraft or automotive...but would like to learn my
options. I ran to the auto store during lunch, and the oil temp kit I looked
at had a variety of fitting styles in the package. I think it may have had
a compression fitting cap that had a slot in the side of it to slip onto the
capcapillary, but it was package up and hard to see exactly what was in
there.
I'm at work right now, and "Lunchtime Aviation" is encroaching into business
hours :)
Thank all.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
wrote:
John,
I doubt an automotive oil temp bulb would have the right fittings to fit
into the oil screen assembly, but it might. I think the oil screen assembly
has a 5/8-18 thread. If the automotive temp bulb has the same size thread
it should work. On mine I just bought one from ACS, with a 72" capillary
tube and it worked fine.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Egan
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary
I'm at the point of my Aircamper project where I need to install an Oil
Temperature gage including the capillary (tube) and bulb (sensor at the
engine block). I don't know what to buy for this, can you guys help?
I realize that many people use an automotive oil temp gage. Being that the
capillary is permanantly attached to the gage (according to Tony Bingelis -
yes I did my home work), I assume the capillary tube and fittings come with
the gage. I realize that an aircraft (Continental A65-8 engine in this
case) engine utilizes a temperature bulb that sets inside the oil temp well
on the engine block oil temp screen houising , and it is attached using what
I would call a compression fitting cap. One of my questions is " if I buy
an automotive oil temp gage assembly, will it have the correct fittings to
adapt to the existing A65-8 engine?" (if you know what I mean).
I also realize that many of today's temperature gages use a temperature
sensor instead of the temperature bulb. I assume the automotive sensor fits
nicely into the oil screen housing as well. The bottom line is, do I have
anything to be concerned with when buying an automotive oil temp gage
assembly?
So, any thoughts on temperature gage ASSEMBLIES, and CONNECTION at the
engine block?
While we're at it, same goes for the oil pressure gage assembly. Parts
selection will be easier for me on this because we only need to plumb an oil
line from the engine block to the gage, using 1/8" copper tubing (again
referencing Tony B.). Something interesting that I learned (Tony B.) is
that a person should make sure the oil tube fitting at the engine block is
restricted to only about a 1/16" diameter hole to minimize loss of oil due
to a broken oil line.
Thanks,
john egan
see you at Brodhead - this year I'll be the guy looking at oil gages.
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Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Fly-In 2014 |
Oscar,
Your trip down should be a quick one since it is all down hill from Mt Shasta.
Getting home could be an uphill battle. I have flown through there. It is fantastic
country to see from a Piet. Shasta makes you feel like a tiny little
ant on the planet.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary |
theRocket has the same gauge.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/oiltempgauges1.php
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:50 AM, "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
wrote:
> P/N 10-11700 $71.00 in ACS 2011 catalog, which is the latest I have
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Egan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:35 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary
>
> Thanks Jack, Could you find the part number or description in ACS? I
will search more as well. Before I asked this group, I tried finding
these parts in ACS with no luck, I also tried looking for the correct
terminology in the 1939 Continental engine manual, I tried searching in
Univair, with no luck, and I learned a lot from Tony B.
>
> I could go either way, aircraft or automotive...but would like to
learn my options. I ran to the auto store during lunch, and the oil temp
kit I looked at had a variety of fitting styles in the package. I think
it may have had a compression fitting cap that had a slot in the side of
it to slip onto the capcapillary, but it was package up and hard to see
exactly what was in there.
>
> I'm at work right now, and "Lunchtime Aviation" is encroaching into
business hours :)
>
> Thank all.
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Jack Phillips
<jack@bedfordlandings.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> I doubt an automotive oil temp bulb would have the right fittings to
fit into the oil screen assembly, but it might. I think the oil screen
assembly has a 5/8-18 thread. If the automotive temp bulb has the same
size thread it should work. On mine I just bought one from ACS, with a
72=94 capillary tube and it worked fine.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Egan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:18 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary
>
> I'm at the point of my Aircamper project where I need to install an
Oil Temperature gage including the capillary (tube) and bulb (sensor at
the engine block). I don't know what to buy for this, can you guys
help?
>
> I realize that many people use an automotive oil temp gage. Being
that the capillary is permanantly attached to the gage (according to
Tony Bingelis - yes I did my home work), I assume the capillary tube and
fittings come with the gage. I realize that an aircraft (Continental
A65-8 engine in this case) engine utilizes a temperature bulb that sets
inside the oil temp well on the engine block oil temp screen houising ,
and it is attached using what I would call a compression fitting cap.
One of my questions is " if I buy an automotive oil temp gage assembly,
will it have the correct fittings to adapt to the existing A65-8
engine?" (if you know what I mean).
>
> I also realize that many of today's temperature gages use a
temperature sensor instead of the temperature bulb. I assume the
automotive sensor fits nicely into the oil screen housing as well. The
bottom line is, do I have anything to be concerned with when buying an
automotive oil temp gage assembly?
>
> So, any thoughts on temperature gage ASSEMBLIES, and CONNECTION at the
engine block?
>
> While we're at it, same goes for the oil pressure gage assembly.
Parts selection will be easier for me on this because we only need to
plumb an oil line from the engine block to the gage, using 1/8" copper
tubing (again referencing Tony B.). Something interesting that I
learned (Tony B.) is that a person should make sure the oil tube fitting
at the engine block is restricted to only about a 1/16" diameter hole to
minimize loss of oil due to a broken oil line.
>
> Thanks,
>
> john egan
> see you at Brodhead - this year I'll be the guy looking at oil gages.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Fly-In 2014 |
Wow... thats great news Oscar.- I look forward to seeing you there next J
une.- =0A=0AMike Groah=0A414MV=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____________________________
____=0A From: taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matron
ics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 9:43 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List
: Re: West Coast Piet Fly-In 2014=0A =0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List message poste
d by: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>=0A=0ASomebody mark this day on th
e calendar, please: I just received official sanction to make the journey t
o Frazier Lake next June.- My dear, sweet, understanding wife didn't even
hesitate when I showed her the centerfold spread of pictures in the curren
t issue of BPA Newsletter, showing some of the planes that showed up for th
e West Coast event this year.- I pointed out Scout's similarity to Mike M
adrid's airplane and she agreed that "it's cute, just like yours!"=0A=0AA q
uick and rough check on SkyVector's flight planner shows a do-able route of
about 340 nautical, which should be around 8 hours of time including fuel
stops, with no wind.- A pipe dream, I'm sure, but even with winds I shoul
d be able to make it entirely in daylight hours, VFR, but I will need the h
andheld due to a couple of controlled fields along the way.- Let the plan
ning begin.=0A=0A--------=0AOscar Zuniga=0AMedford, OR=0AAir Camper NX41CC
"Scout"=0AA75 power=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A
=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403503#403503=0A=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Fly-In 2014 |
Good deal Oscar; looking forward to seeing you and Scout at Frazier Lake next June.
Jim B.
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Subject: | Re: projects near Anchorage, AK |
Dave;
The Begich Middle School students there in Anchorage have an Aerial project that
they are working on (St. Croix' biplane adaptation of the Air Camper). I think
Rob Stapleton was the guy who put that together, but I don't know for sure.
Since school is out for the summer, I'm not sure who you might try, but it
might be interesting.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary |
Thank you everyone who has provided information regarding the oil gages.
All of this really helps me understand the options, installation concerns,
and the like. I'll probably wait until after Brodhead, before buying
anything, as I'll see a bunch of good installations there and copy one, now
that I know what to buy. You guys have helped me.
john
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:02 AM, John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>w
rote:
> theRocket has the same gauge.
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/oiltempgauges1.php
>
>
> John Hofmann
> Vice-President, Information Technology
> The Rees Group, Inc.
> 2424 American Lane
> Madison, WI 53704
> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
> Fax: 608.443.2474
> Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
>
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:50 AM, "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
> wrote:
>
> ******
>
> P/N 10-11700 $71.00 in ACS 2011 catalog, which is the latest I have****
>
> ** **
>
> Jack Phillips****
>
> NX899JP****
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia****
>
> ** **
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
> pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John Egan
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:35 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks Jack, Could you find the part number or description in ACS? I
> will search more as well. Before I asked this group, I tried finding the
se
> parts in ACS with no luck, I also tried looking for the correct terminolo
gy
> in the 1939 Continental engine manual, I tried searching in Univair, with
> no luck, and I learned a lot from Tony B. ****
>
> ****
>
> I could go either way, aircraft or automotive...but would like to learn m
y
> options. I ran to the auto store during lunch, and the oil temp kit I
> looked at had a variety of fitting styles in the package. I think it may
> have had a compression fitting cap that had a slot in the side of it to
> slip onto the capcapillary, but it was package up and hard to see exactly
> what was in there.****
>
> ****
>
> I'm at work right now, and "Lunchtime Aviation" is encroaching into
> business hours :) ****
>
> ****
>
> Thank all. ****
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com
>
> wrote:****
>
> John,****
>
> ****
>
> I doubt an automotive oil temp bulb would have the right fittings to fit
> into the oil screen assembly, but it might. I think the oil screen
> assembly has a 5/8-18 thread. If the automotive temp bulb has the same
> size thread it should work. On mine I just bought one from ACS, with a 7
2=94
> capillary tube and it worked fine.****
>
> ****
>
> Jack Phillips****
>
> NX899JP****
>
> ****Smith Mountain Lake**, **Virginia********
>
> ****
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John Egan
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:18 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Oil Temp Bulb and Capillary****
>
> ****
>
> I'm at the point of my Aircamper project where I need to install an Oil
> Temperature gage including the capillary (tube) and bulb (sensor at the
> engine block). I don't know what to buy for this, can you guys help? **
*
> *
>
> ****
>
> I realize that many people use an automotive oil temp gage. Being that
> the capillary is permanantly attached to the gage (according to Tony
> Bingelis - yes I did my home work), I assume the capillary tube and
> fittings come with the gage. I realize that an aircraft (Continental A65
-8
> engine in this case) engine utilizes a temperature bulb that sets inside
> the oil temp well on the engine block oil temp screen houising , and it i
s
> attached using what I would call a compression fitting cap. One of my
> questions is " if I buy an automotive oil temp gage assembly, will it hav
e
> the correct fittings to adapt to the existing A65-8 engine?" (if you know
> what I mean).****
>
> ****
>
> I also realize that many of today's temperature gages use a temperature
> sensor instead of the temperature bulb. I assume the automotive sensor
> fits nicely into the oil screen housing as well. The bottom line is, do
I
> have anything to be concerned with when buying an automotive oil temp gag
e
> assembly?****
>
> ****
>
> So, any thoughts on temperature gage ASSEMBLIES, and CONNECTION at the
> engine block?****
>
> ****
>
> While we're at it, same goes for the oil pressure gage assembly. Parts
> selection will be easier for me on this because we only need to plumb an
> oil line from the engine block to the gage, using 1/8" copper tubing (aga
in
> referencing Tony B.). Something interesting that I learned (Tony B.) is
> that a person should make sure the oil tube fitting at the engine block i
s
> restricted to only about a 1/16" diameter hole to minimize loss of oil du
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>
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>
> Thanks,****
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