Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 06/29/13


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:03 AM - Firewall ply thickness (bubbleboy)
     2. 05:45 AM - Re: Firewall ply thickness (Chris)
     3. 05:56 AM - Re: Firewall ply thickness (Gary Boothe)
     4. 06:03 AM - Re: Firewall ply thickness (Peter W Johnson)
     5. 06:21 AM - Re: Firewall ply thickness (Jack)
     6. 06:22 AM - Re: Firewall ply thickness (Jack)
     7. 06:40 AM - cable exit holes (Douwe Blumberg)
     8. 06:48 AM - Re: Firewall ply thickness (Gary Boothe)
     9. 10:28 PM - Stupid things I've done, by Mark Roberts (Mark Roberts)
    10. 10:43 PM - Scotty's Air Camper build in Australia (bubbleboy)
    11. 10:54 PM - Re: Stupid things I've done, by Mark Roberts (bubbleboy)
    12. 10:56 PM - Re: Firewall ply thickness (bubbleboy)
    13. 11:03 PM - Re: Stupid things I've done, by Mark Roberts (Mark Roberts)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:03:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Firewall ply thickness
    From: "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
    Just a quick question please! I have seen some people use 1/4 inch ply and some 1/8 inch ply for the firewall. What is the accepted? I have just spent 30mins trolling the archives but cant solve this one. Scotty -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage &amp; undercarriage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403613#403613


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    Time: 05:45:52 AM PST US
    From: "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net>
    Subject: Firewall ply thickness
    The plans say to use 1/8-inch ply. Lots of people use 1/8-inch but I have seen 1/4-inch used as well. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:03 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Firewall ply thickness --> <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> Just a quick question please! I have seen some people use 1/4 inch ply and some 1/8 inch ply for the firewall. What is the accepted? I have just spent 30mins trolling the archives but cant solve this one. Scotty -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage &amp; undercarriage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403613#403613


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    Time: 05:56:44 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Firewall ply thickness
    Both are acceptable. I used 1/8". One of the best things I did, upon the advice of Jim Boyer, was to glue 'placement dowels' into the framework. That allowed me to slide the firewall on and off (at least 100 times!) while working on other stuff, until no other work could be done. Then glued the firewall in place and cut the dowels flush. Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:03 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Firewall ply thickness --> <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> Just a quick question please! I have seen some people use 1/4 inch ply and some 1/8 inch ply for the firewall. What is the accepted? I have just spent 30mins trolling the archives but cant solve this one. Scotty -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage &amp; undercarriage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403613#403613


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    Time: 06:03:23 AM PST US
    From: Peter W Johnson <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: Re: Firewall ply thickness
    Scotty, I used 1/4 inch on both mine. It makes mounting gascolators etc much easier. Cheers Peter Sent from my iPhone On 29/06/2013, at 10:02 PM, "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Just a quick question please! I have seen some people use 1/4 inch ply and some 1/8 inch ply for the firewall. What is the accepted? I have just spent 30mins trolling the archives but cant solve this one. > > Scotty > > -------- > Tamworth, Australia > Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper > > www.scottyspietenpol.com > > Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage &amp; undercarriage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403613#403613 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:21:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firewall ply thickness
    From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
    Gary would you have a picture of that? Thanks! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Jun 29, 2013, at 7:56 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > Both are acceptable. I used 1/8". One of the best things I did, upon the > advice of Jim Boyer, was to glue 'placement dowels' into the framework. That > allowed me to slide the firewall on and off (at least 100 times!) while > working on other stuff, until no other work could be done. Then glued the > firewall in place and cut the dowels flush. > > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:03 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Firewall ply thickness > > --> <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> > > Just a quick question please! I have seen some people use 1/4 inch ply and > some 1/8 inch ply for the firewall. What is the accepted? I have just spent > 30mins trolling the archives but cant solve this one. > > Scotty > > -------- > Tamworth, Australia > Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper > > www.scottyspietenpol.com > > Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage &amp; undercarriage...Corvair engine > at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403613#403613 > > > > > > > > > > <Firewall placement dowels.jpg>


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    Time: 06:22:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firewall ply thickness
    From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
    Sorry just found the attachment Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Jun 29, 2013, at 7:56 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > Both are acceptable. I used 1/8". One of the best things I did, upon the > advice of Jim Boyer, was to glue 'placement dowels' into the framework. That > allowed me to slide the firewall on and off (at least 100 times!) while > working on other stuff, until no other work could be done. Then glued the > firewall in place and cut the dowels flush. > > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bubbleboy > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:03 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Firewall ply thickness > > --> <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> > > Just a quick question please! I have seen some people use 1/4 inch ply and > some 1/8 inch ply for the firewall. What is the accepted? I have just spent > 30mins trolling the archives but cant solve this one. > > Scotty > > -------- > Tamworth, Australia > Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper > > www.scottyspietenpol.com > > Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage &amp; undercarriage...Corvair engine > at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403613#403613 > > > > > > > > > > <Firewall placement dowels.jpg>


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    Time: 06:40:46 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: cable exit holes
    Teardrop leather patches, glued on with 3m weatherstripping glue. Douwe Ps. I LOVE YOUR PLANE CHRIS!!!!


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    Time: 06:48:12 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Firewall ply thickness
    Very handy to be able to remove the firewall while working on rudder pedals, etc! Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 6:21 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Firewall ply thickness Gary would you have a picture of that? Thanks! Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Jun 29, 2013, at 7:56 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > Both are acceptable. I used 1/8". One of the best things I did, upon > the advice of Jim Boyer, was to glue 'placement dowels' into the > framework. That allowed me to slide the firewall on and off (at least > 100 times!) while working on other stuff, until no other work could be > done. Then glued the firewall in place and cut the dowels flush. > > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > bubbleboy > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:03 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Firewall ply thickness > > --> <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> > > Just a quick question please! I have seen some people use 1/4 inch ply > and some 1/8 inch ply for the firewall. What is the accepted? I have > just spent 30mins trolling the archives but cant solve this one. > > Scotty > > -------- > Tamworth, Australia > Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper > > www.scottyspietenpol.com > > Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage &amp; undercarriage...Corvair > engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403613#403613 > > > > > > > > > > <Firewall placement dowels.jpg>


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    Time: 10:28:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Stupid things I've done, by Mark Roberts
    From: "Mark Roberts" <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
    So, today was one of those days I finally made it to the shop, and made some good progress on stuff I had been dreading, like the ply covering on the rear of the top turtleneck behind the pilot seat. Great feeling. So what to do next while the epoxy sets...? Hummm... How about the little strips of 1/4 x1/8 between the ply gussets on the top of the fuse toward the tail! Great... Done. Now what? Oh well, why don't I cut the 1/8" ply firewall blank. Ok! But first, lemme tack nail some 1/4" thick "spacers along the front of the fuse sides to represent the thickness of the ply side walls (not installed yet) so I don't make the firewall too narrow. Great idea. Fire up the air compressor, grab the nail gun, and pop 3 LONG nails into each of the spacers along the front strut that the firewall will glue to. I want LONG nails so i can pull them out easily. Finished one side. Move to the right side... Tack the top in place, now the bottom... Now one in the middle to keep it from bowing... Oh, I need to push it forward a bit to be flush with the firewall...hold It there with your thumb, good. Need some back pressure with your middle finger on the back side... Good now shoot the nail. Right through the wood and into that sweet, helpful middle finger, dead center. Good shot! Dead center of the meaty part of the FU finger! It'll heal, in fact, pretty much already had. But the ego.... Oh, the shame of it. I guess I didn't need all the pressure I had turned up on the compressor!! Doap. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403636#403636


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    Time: 10:43:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Scotty's Air Camper build in Australia
    From: "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
    Its been a while since I posted any progress pics on here! Making instrument panels now and about to start undercarriage. Scotty www.scottyspietenpol.com -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage &amp; undercarriage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403637#403637 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1795_490.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1794_121.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1792_112.jpg


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    Time: 10:54:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stupid things I've done, by Mark Roberts
    From: "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
    Are the ply side walls 1/4 as you suggested or 1/8? I havent got the plans in front of me but I thought from memory they were 1/8. But I could be wrong too... Scotty -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage &amp; undercarriage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403638#403638


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    Time: 10:56:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firewall ply thickness
    From: "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
    Chris, Gary and Peter...thank you guys! Scotty -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage &amp; undercarriage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403639#403639


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    Time: 11:03:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stupid things I've done, by Mark Roberts
    From: "Mark Roberts" <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
    No, the sides are 1/8", but there are additional 1/4 x 1/8 strips on top of that which allow for the metal brackets and bolt heads... In fact, I am thinking they are 1/4" thick perhaps.... I cut the firewall even fatter than necessary, so I will rebook at those plans to see it the strips are 1/8" thick or 1/4" along there.... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403640#403640




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