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1. 04:17 AM - Poly-Fiber (John Francis)
2. 05:45 AM - Re: Poly-Fiber (C N Campbell)
3. 06:03 AM - Re: Poly-Fiber (C N Campbell)
4. 06:23 AM - Re: Poly-Fiber (John Francis)
5. 06:55 AM - Re: Re: Poly-Fiber (gliderx5@comcast.net)
6. 07:05 AM - Re: repair (taildrags)
7. 07:08 AM - Re: Poly-Fiber (Marcus Zechini)
8. 08:43 AM - Aileron Spar (John Francis)
9. 09:05 AM - Re: Aileron Spar (Ken Bickers)
10. 09:25 AM - Re: Poly-Fiber (Mario Giacummo)
11. 05:43 PM - Brodhead 2013 (IT Girl)
12. 06:31 PM - Re: Poly-Fiber (dgaldrich)
13. 08:20 PM - Re: Brodhead 2013 (Mark Roberts)
14. 08:22 PM - Re: "War" Stories (was stupid things I've done) (Mark Roberts)
15. 08:33 PM - Re: Brodhead 2013 (Jim Boyer)
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Anyone care to lend me the Poly-Fiber DVD? I could also use about a yard of the
medium weight fabric to stretch over parts to see how they look.
Thanks
John
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John Francis
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Yes, John, I have a homemade DVD that I copied from the video tape. I guess
I got the tape back in the '80s when I was using the Poly-Fibre to redo an
old Tripacer that I converted into a PA-20 Pacer (tail-dragger). I can also
lend you a Poly-Fibre manual. Give me the information and I will send them
to you. Don't have any dacron fabric to donate. I'm not at that stage yet.
Chuck cncampbell@windstream.net
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From: "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 7:17 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Poly-Fiber
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> Anyone care to lend me the Poly-Fiber DVD? I could also use about a yard
> of the medium weight fabric to stretch over parts to see how they look.
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> Thanks
> John
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#2. I can also send a copy of Practical Guide to Aircraft Fabric from
Denison Aviation. Suggest also you get a copy of Stewart Systems DVDs.
They only cost $20 and, as far as I'm concerned, it is the ONLY way to go
when covering an airplane. From experience, the Polytac glue is very
difficult to use. You need to put glue on about a foot long and IMMEDIATELY
work the fabric into it. The glue dries very quickly. With the Stewart
glue, you apply the glue to the surfaces and let it dry before applying the
fabric. You can see the basic method on Youtube videos. If you still want
the Polytac stuff, let me know. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 7:17 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Poly-Fiber
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> Anyone care to lend me the Poly-Fiber DVD? I could also use about a yard
> of the medium weight fabric to stretch over parts to see how they look.
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> Thanks
> John
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> John Francis
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Thanks Chuck. You know I could be convinced to use the Stewart System. I know
it is very popular here on the Piet forum. I have a friend who is somewhat "old
school" and is trying to persuade me to go with the poly-fiber system because
it is proven. I need to get off the fence and make my decision. I will look
into it a bit further in the next few days. Thanks for offers for now.
John
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John
I agree with Chuck. I've used Stewarts on 3 projects and will never go back to
Polyfiber.
Malcolm
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From: "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 9:23:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Poly-Fiber
Thanks Chuck. You know I could be convinced to use the Stewart System. I know it
is very popular here on the Piet forum. I have a friend who is somewhat "old
school" and is trying to persuade me to go with the poly-fiber system because
it is proven. I need to get off the fence and make my decision. I will look into
it a bit further in the next few days. Thanks for offers for now.
John
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John Francis
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Not an incident, not an accident... what we're talking about here is what is referred
to as "deferred maintenance". Meaning, I've known about this stuff, some
of it came up on the last annual, but I've just been putting things off. Time
to take care of all of it. Truth be told, I enjoy working on the airplane
a lot, too.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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I wanted the DVD but didnt wanna pay. I bought the book and a starter kit
from A/C Spruce. havent strecthed, yet.
On Jul 5, 2013 7:19 AM, "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
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> Anyone care to lend me the Poly-Fiber DVD? I could also use about a yard
> of the medium weight fabric to stretch over parts to see how they look.
>
> Thanks
> John
>
> --------
> John Francis
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403971#403971
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As I am fitting my aileron spar, I'm wondering with such a tight fit how am I going
to get glue in it. I then realize that this is a critical glue joint as
it appears the piano hinge is bolted to it and at that point the glue on the
spar is the only thing holding the aileron to the wing!
To assure a good glue joint, I believe I will fit everything up properly, cut the
aileron out, then pull the aileron spar straight out and apply glue well.
Has anyone else done this?
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Spar |
John, the final fit will be better if you glue the spars in before you cut
out the aileron. What I did was to bevel ever so slightly the spars for a
half inch just in board of each rib. Then when I was ready to glue in the
spars, I offset them temporarily by one half inch. That give me enough
clearance to put the glue on the rib surfaces. I also put glue on the spar
face and spar top and bottom. Then a nice, gentle shift of the spars for
the final half inch, and some clamps to hold things together. Worked easily
and strong as can be. Cheers, Ken
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:42 AM, John Francis <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
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> As I am fitting my aileron spar, I'm wondering with such a tight fit how
> am I going to get glue in it. I then realize that this is a critical glue
> joint as it appears the piano hinge is bolted to it and at that point the
> glue on the spar is the only thing holding the aileron to the wing!
>
> To assure a good glue joint, I believe I will fit everything up properly,
> cut the aileron out, then pull the aileron spar straight out and apply glue
> well. Has anyone else done this?
>
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> John Francis
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403986#403986
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Go to youtube, there are lots of videos, its more than enough
Mario Giacummo
2013/7/5 Marcus Zechini <marcus.zechini@gmail.com>
> I wanted the DVD but didnt wanna pay. I bought the book and a starter kit
> from A/C Spruce. havent strecthed, yet.
> On Jul 5, 2013 7:19 AM, "John Francis" <Mrkringles@msn.com> wrote:
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>> Anyone care to lend me the Poly-Fiber DVD? I could also use about a yard
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>> John
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I just wanted to drop a note to let you all know that Kevin and I are going to
miss you all this year at Brodhead. We both have work conflicts and simply cannot
get away. I can't wait to see you all at Brodhead 2014.
Watch for more details, Kevin and I are hosting Corvair College in San Marcos in
March 2014.
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Shelley Tumino
IT Girl
wife of "Axel"
NX899KP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Another vote for Stewarts. They gave me the complete set of DVDs when I bought
some of their stuff. Just finished covering the tail feathers (wings after Brodhead)
and the process is much less harmful to whatever brain cells I have left.
A lifelong investment in the German and American brewing industry has left
some still functioning and I need all I can get. My wife can do both the modified
seine knot and the Staggerwing knot that Stewarts teaches and MUCH prefers
the Staggerwing. Both are certified.
As an aside, Stewart System relies on a fabric to fabric bond so I took a couple
of pieces of 2 inch pinked fabricand glued them together with 1 inch overlap.
2 square inches total bond area. I can't pull them apart. Stewart says the
fabric will fail before the glue and I believe them.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2013 |
Brodhead's loss was out gain this year at the West Coast Piet Gathering. It was
a real surprise and pleasure to meet the both of you at the event this year...
I hope to make Brodhead next year myself.
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: "War" Stories (was stupid things I've done) |
I think you need to make a beer drinking / building assistance trip to Fresno Gary!
I'm enjoying a cool one tonight and thinking about heading out to the barn for
some varnish fumes as well.... Doap!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead 2013 |
Hi Kevin and Shelley,
We had the pleasure of seeing you at Frazier Lake so will see you again at
Brodhead 2014=C2-for sure. Cheers and it was nice seeing and visiting wit
h you at Frazier Lake.
Jim B.
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