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1. 03:14 AM - Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! (Scott Knowlton)
2. 04:58 AM - Re: New Spar In Place (l.morlock)
3. 06:18 AM - Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 06:25 AM - Temporary hanger space at Brodhead (Douwe Blumberg)
5. 06:46 AM - Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? (Jack Phillips)
6. 06:49 AM - Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? (Marcus Zechini)
7. 07:08 AM - Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? (Jack Phillips)
8. 07:44 AM - Painting, step 1 (Ken Bickers)
9. 07:45 AM - Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? (gliderx5@comcast.net)
10. 08:02 AM - Re: Painting, step 1 (Gary Boothe)
11. 08:08 AM - Re: Painting, step 1 (Ken Bickers)
12. 08:09 AM - Re: Painting, step 1 (Rick Holland)
13. 08:18 AM - Re: Painting, step 1 (Pilot78)
14. 08:23 AM - Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts (Ray Krause)
15. 08:26 AM - Re: Painting, step 1 (Ken Bickers)
16. 09:02 AM - Re: Painting, step 1 (Rick Holland)
17. 09:23 AM - Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! (taildrags)
18. 09:30 AM - Re: Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! (Scott Knowlton)
19. 09:40 AM - Re: Upcoming Corvair Colleges (Rick Holland)
20. 10:03 AM - Re: Painting, step 1 (John Francis)
21. 10:07 AM - Re: Re: Painting, step 1 (Ken Bickers)
22. 10:40 AM - Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! (Chris Rusch)
23. 10:51 AM - Re: Painting, step 1 (Jack Phillips)
24. 11:31 AM - Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts (tkreiner)
25. 12:16 PM - Re: Painting, step 1 (Ken Bickers)
26. 12:23 PM - Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? (Lion Mason)
27. 01:15 PM - custom wooden model (pringljo)
28. 01:40 PM - Re: Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! (Jack)
29. 01:49 PM - Re: Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts (Ray Krause)
30. 02:12 PM - Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts (Ray Krause)
31. 02:32 PM - Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! (taildrags)
32. 03:43 PM - Re: custom wooden model (Rick Holland)
33. 03:59 PM - Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? (airlion2@gmail.com)
34. 04:15 PM - Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? (Robert Bush)
35. 05:36 PM - Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? (helspersew@aol.com)
36. 05:41 PM - Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! (nightmare)
37. 05:47 PM - Re: Tail Hinges (pringljo)
38. 07:16 PM - Re: Tail Hinges (tools)
39. 07:17 PM - Thanks a lot guys (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
40. 08:28 PM - Re: Thanks a lot guys (taildrags)
41. 08:44 PM - Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! (taildrags)
42. 08:47 PM - Re: Upcoming Corvair Colleges (Dick N)
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| Subject: | Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! |
How timely Oscar. This past weekend I flew in to Lubitz field near Toronto Ontario.
Ed Lubitz retired as a pilot from my airline in 1999. He is an aerospace
engineer and designed a PSRU and other modifications for a Ford Escorte engine
that he flies behind in his Pietenpol. I was fascinated by the simplicity of
his design and how nicely it cowls (similar in weight to the Model A so it can
be kept pretty close to the firewall).
I wouldn't mind submitting an article about his design and whereabouts. He's a
great guy and good friend to aviation and the home builder.
Scott Knowlton
Burlington, Ontario
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-07-14, at 11:41 PM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello, low 'n' slow fliers;
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> Pat Panzera, editor of Contact! magazine, is considering an all-Piet issue of
the magazine if we can assemble enough articles to fill an issue. I'm sure we
can. Contact! is somewhat engine-oriented and 100% technical content, and my
thought is that the Air Camper has been powered by so many different engines
that it shouldn't be any problem at all getting some articles together for the
magazine. I think the most exciting new Air Camper just about to hatch is Chris
Rusch's Mitsubishi-powered airplane, and I'd like to feature that one in
the magazine but there are numerous other innovative ones out there. Of course
Dick Navratil's Rotec radial powered airplane is unique and would have plenty
of technical details of interest in how he adapted the engine to the airframe.
There are some recently-completed and completely authentic Ford-powered Piets
that would be of interest to others as far as the details of the conversion
and build nowadays vs. what the original Pietenpol c!
> onversion drawings suggested. We might even go back to some of the other one-off
Piets such as the Ford Fiesta powered one that appeared back in the November
1980 issue of Sport Aviation. Which, by the way, does anybody have any information
on? Is it still around?
>
> Put on your thinking caps and email me off-line if you think you can put together
a technical article related to Piets (and in particular, powerplants for
them). The design will be 85 years old in 2014, so maybe we can get the issue
together to celebrate that milestone early next year.
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> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: New Spar In Place |
Gary, thanks a bunch for your offer of the A-frame. I think I'll take
you up on that. Now I need to find a way to help someone else as
generously as you have helped me and many others !!! I plan to be at
Brodhead in a couple of weeks, so will at least re-imburse you for the
shipping cost.
My address is:
3407 Woodland Place
Columbus, IN 47203
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New Spar In Place
Ha! The Quest for the Perfect Tailwheel! You may as well ask what's
better? Republican or Democrat? Catholic or Protestant? Cake or pie?
It's Bernouli's Principle of Tailwheels: "The number of opinions you
get varies directly with the number of people you talk to."
I would let Kevin chime in for himself, but he replaced his A-frame
with a spring after about 25 hrs. Looking thru www.Westcoastpiet.com,
you will also see a wide variation. In my case, part of the problem is
how I designed my whole rudder pedal set up and linkage to the rudder
and tailwheel. Moving the tailwheel back will allow me to connect to the
rudder with a rudder horn, eliminating one problem. My only concern is
the added stress to the rudder hinges. Obviously, careful thought needs
to go into attaching the springs without adding too much weight.
I'm very sorry to hear of your misfortune, Larry, and hope the repair
goes smoothly. My A-frame is certainly NOT for sale, but, if you send me
a shipping address, you find it on your doorstep one day soon!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:23 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New Spar In Place
Larry, I agree with you. I had a "Bonafide" tailwheel on a leaf
spring. When I had my forced landing which culminated in a broken axle
and groundloop, the tailwheel acted as a 14" lever and cracked my lower
right longeron. I went to the A-Frame design after that. I first made
it to the Pietenpol plans for the tailskid and just added the mount for
a tailwheel. I found that the A-Frame with no reinforcing was too
flexible and the tailwheel could twist the frame, rather than turn the
airplane. I modified it by going to thicker walled tubing and adding a
cross piece between the two arms, and it has been fine for the last 8
years.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
l.morlock
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:14 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New Spar In Place
Gary, I'm interested to know why you are abandoning the A-frame tail
wheel and going to a "bonafide tailwheel," which I presume would extend
beyond the end of the fuselage.
I was thinking of doing just the opposite. Last Thursday, I managed
to do a groundloop while doing a high speed taxi on a hard surface
taxiway. My "bonafide tailwheel," turned out to be a 14 inch lever that
broke the tailpost when it went off the taxiway. My first thought was
to replace it with an A-frame, then I saw your posting????
Other thoughts on my groundloop:
1. The rudder is less effective than I would have thought at low
speeds.
2. A Pietenpol really likes grass.
Do you want to sell your A-frame?
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New Spar In Place
My wing rebuild is progressing slowly, taking back seat to moving
OUT and moving IN.but there is some progress. New spar is in place! I am
also removing the BHP A-frame tailwheel and replacing with a spring and
bona-fide tailwheel. Today, generous locals brought me a used Scott,
full-swivel tailwheel and a brand new set of springs!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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| Subject: | Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? |
Been hearing of a few planes which aren't gonna make Brodhead this year and
was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to drop out?
Weather permitting, "RE-PIET" will be there.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Temporary hanger space at Brodhead |
Hey all,
I MIGHT have a little jam that I'd need help with.
As some of you know, we're hosting a 10-year-old Ukranian orphan for the
summer. He'll be driving up with Marci to meet me, and hopefully enjoying
the event. He's an awesome kid and the experience has been great for us
all.
Problem is, he has to be on a plane at Columbus on Monday and I need/want to
be there to see him off, as he's really bonded with me.
IF the WX turns iffy and it looks like I might be delayed getting home, I
thought of locating a hanger space where I could park RE-PIET while I drive
down with Marci to see him off, and come back and get the plane in a week or
three.
Anybody have contacts at Brodhead whom I could speak with? Or any ideas??
Douwe
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| Subject: | Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? |
Weather permitting, "Icarus Plummet" will be there.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Been hearing of a few planes which aren't gonna make Brodhead this year and
was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to drop out?
Weather permitting, "RE-PIET" will be there.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? |
Work has hampered my planning efforts, but I am still planning on going.
MAybe with group from Virginia.
Jack doesn't know it, but I may try a trip to Smith Mtn Lake this coming
wekend as a test run.
Zeke
NX431LA
GN-1
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| Subject: | Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? |
Cool! Come on over. I'll be here.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus
Zechini
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Work has hampered my planning efforts, but I am still planning on going.
MAybe with group from Virginia.
Jack doesn't know it, but I may try a trip to Smith Mtn Lake this coming
wekend as a test run.
Zeke
NX431LA
GN-1
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Douwe Blumberg
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
Been hearing of a few planes which aren't gonna make Brodhead this year and
was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to drop out?
Weather permitting, "RE-PIET" will be there.
Douwe
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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| Subject: | Painting, step 1 |
Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work to
go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But squirting
paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
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| Subject: | Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? |
I plan on flying in friday afternoon, weather permitting, and leaving sunda
y morning for oshkosh.=C2- I will be in the Titan Tornado as the Piet is
not quite done yet.
Malcolm Morrison
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:19:51 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Been hearing of a few planes which aren=99t gonna make Brodhead this
year and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to dr
op out?
=C2-
Weather permitting, =9CRE-PIET=9D will be there.
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| Subject: | Painting, step 1 |
That's a nice hangar, Ken!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 7:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work to
go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But squirting
paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
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| Subject: | Re: Painting, step 1 |
Thanks. We've moved the Pacer to a friend's hangar for the next few months
to provide more workspace for the Pietenpol project. I'm liking not
banging my head into the Pacer's wing every third trip around the Piet.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> That=92s a nice hangar, Ken!****
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> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Bickers
> *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 7:44 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1****
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> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work
> to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken****
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| Subject: | Re: Painting, step 1 |
Nice Ken, I used my driveway and a long rope to strung up to hang smaller
parts. It will be nice not being at the mercy of the wind and bugs. Which
kind of paint are you using?
rick
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work
> to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: Painting, step 1 |
Nice booth Ken, I did something similar for my Taylorcraft inside my hangar. I
built 8x8 panels and then stretched plastic over each panel then screwed them
together. After it was built I put down several paint tarps on the floor. It
worked out pretty good. Several guys on the airport have used it since, now it
is disassemble and stored until I need it for the Piet.
Brian
SLC-UT
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| Subject: | Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts |
Tom,
I would like to get a set for my A-65. Please let me know the details. Sorry for
the delay in responding, I was on vacation.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Raykrause@ frontiernet.net
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
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> If you have a small Continental, i.e., an A or C series engine, even an O-200,
this may be of interest to you. We're offering this to the Piet list members
first, EAA 302 members second (my EAA Chapter), and plan to list any remaining
items on eBay after OSH.
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> Continental P/N 530213 is the replacement Conn Rod Bolt for all of the above
referenced engines (also used on some engines that are quite a bit larger and
generally not used on a Piet.) My IA has recommended that because I don't know
the history of my engine... it would be very wise to replace these.
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> About half the bolts are packed in the paper/foil US procurement bags, and are
NOS items from Fed Surplus. New, unused, unwrapped. The other half are in single
bags, and/or unbagged, as we've opened a few to see what was inside.
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> After a net search, we've found that the sellers with the $12 item cost generally
don't have stock... and the most available parts are around $16 each.
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> Since the sealed bags hold 10 pieces, we're offering them for $100., which is
only $10. per bolt. The loose bolts will also be the same cost. I will be prepared
to bring these to Brodhead, to save on shipping costs, if you're interested.
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| Subject: | Re: Painting, step 1 |
Stewart system primer. For color coats, we're going to experiment with
Benjamin Moore Aura Latex sprayed on. If that doesn't work out
satisfactorily, we'll shift back to the Stewart topcoat system. I've made
a bunch of test panels (actually I just re-covered a bunch of old chair
seats using ceconite) to test the paint process before having to commit.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nice Ken, I used my driveway and a long rope to strung up to hang smaller
> parts. It will be nice not being at the mercy of the wind and bugs. Which
> kind of paint are you using?
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> rick
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> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>wrote:
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>> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work
>> to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
>> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
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> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
> NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: Painting, step 1 |
Just about what I did, used the "Bell method" one cross coat of latex
primer and two cross coats of latex satin finish coat (Sherwin Williams
Superpaint mixed with the Flowtrol). I brushed the fuselage then sprayed
the wings and tail. Went on fine using both methods. And that is a great
idea test covering and painting an old lawn chair frame, I think I will do
that and use it in my hanger, will be a great conversation piece.
rick
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stewart system primer. For color coats, we're going to experiment with
> Benjamin Moore Aura Latex sprayed on. If that doesn't work out
> satisfactorily, we'll shift back to the Stewart topcoat system. I've made
> a bunch of test panels (actually I just re-covered a bunch of old chair
> seats using ceconite) to test the paint process before having to commit.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nice Ken, I used my driveway and a long rope to strung up to hang smaller
>> parts. It will be nice not being at the mercy of the wind and bugs. Which
>> kind of paint are you using?
>>
>> rick
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>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work
>>> to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
>>> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
>>>
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>> Rick Holland
>> Castle Rock, Colorado
>> NX6819Z
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Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! |
Scott; thanks a million! I'll post this reply to the list and not just to you
individually since the same general comment will apply no matter what the technical
topic: by all means, assemble any information you can get on the Lubitz
Escort conversion! Write the piece, get photos, do the interview... and send
it along! No matter whether the "special" Piet issue becomes reality or not,
this type of story is always of interest, and it sparks creative thinking. Run
with it!
I'm also thinking that Greg Bacon/John Dilatush's "Mountain Piet" would be a prime
candidate for write-up as well. I don't know of any other turbocharged Subaru
Air Campers out there!
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Good stuff. Will do. This is what home building and experimenting is all about.
Scott
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-07-15, at 12:25 PM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Scott; thanks a million! I'll post this reply to the list and not just to you
individually since the same general comment will apply no matter what the technical
topic: by all means, assemble any information you can get on the Lubitz
Escort conversion! Write the piece, get photos, do the interview... and send
it along! No matter whether the "special" Piet issue becomes reality or not,
this type of story is always of interest, and it sparks creative thinking.
Run with it!
>
> I'm also thinking that Greg Bacon/John Dilatush's "Mountain Piet" would be a
prime candidate for write-up as well. I don't know of any other turbocharged
Subaru Air Campers out there!
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Upcoming Corvair Colleges |
Dick
You are not thinking about building a third Piet, this time with a Corvair
are you?
rick h
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> Kevin
> I also heard there is another onr coming to Oshkosh in October. I am
> planning on going to that one it it happens.
> Dick N.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee" <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil
> >
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:43 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Upcoming Corvair Colleges
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>> kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
>>
>> If you're thinking about using a Corvair then you should strongly
>> consider attending a college.
>>
>> CC26 will be in Mexico, MO 18-20 Sep 13.
>> CC27 will be in Barnwell, SC 8-10 Nov 13.
>> CC28 will be in San Marcos, TX 28 Feb-2 Mar 14.
>>
>> Shelley has made Facebook pages for each event. We're hosting the TX
>> event so CC28's page will be updated frequently. She'll update the other
>> two events as she gets information. You can also contact Zenith Aircraft
>> for information on CC26 & PF Beck for CC27.
>>
>> --------
>> Kevin "Axel" Purtee
>> Rebuilding NX899KP
>> Austin/San Marcos, TX
>>
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>> Read this topic online here:
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Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: Painting, step 1 |
Very nice Ken! I would like to see how you complete it.
John
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John Francis
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| Subject: | Re: Painting, step 1 |
John, me too :) I'll send reports as things progress. Cheers, Ken
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> Very nice Ken! I would like to see how you complete it.
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Sounds great Oscar, I'm honored!!!
I have lots of information about my conversion that I would be glad to share......dyno
sheets, rebuild info, prop bearing housing, ignition, starter....
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NX321LR
ON THE FINAL PUSH!!
Mitsubishi Powered
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| Subject: | Painting, step 1 |
If you work at the same speed I did, Ken, you are now about 12 months away
from flying it. So hurry up, so you can fly it to Brodhead next year.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work to
go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But squirting
paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken
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| Subject: | Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts |
Ray,
I've been contacted by several others, and I'm going to bring 10 of the bags with
me, unless others contact me in the next few days.
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Tom Kreiner
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| Subject: | Re: Painting, step 1 |
Okay, Jack. I'll try. I'd certainly love to be there next year for the
85th anniversary of the Air Camper in an Air Camper.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>wrote:
> If you work at the same speed I did, Ken, you are now about 12 months
> away from flying it. So hurry up, so you can fly it to Brodhead next year.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Jack Phillips****
>
> NX899JP****
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> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia****
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Bickers
> *Sent:* Monday, July 15, 2013 10:44 AM
>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Painting, step 1
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Yesterday, I framed up a booth for doing some painting. Still some work
> to go to brace it, enclose it, and fit it out with lights, etc. But
> squirting paint is in the near future. Cheers, Ken****
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| Subject: | Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? |
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On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:46 AM, "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wrot
e:
> Weather permitting, =9CIcarus Plummet=9D will be there.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:20 AM
> To: pietenpolgroup
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
>
> Been hearing of a few planes which aren=99t gonna make Brodhead this
year and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to dr
op out?
>
> Weather permitting, =9CRE-PIET=9D will be there.
>
> Douwe
>
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> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | custom wooden model |
I just wanted to share some pictures of the model I am having made. I am doing
this for inspiration, since it will be a few years before I have a finished plane.
I have no connection to this company, except as a customer. It cost me
about $180 for a fairly large model (24 in wing).
I just picked a picture of a plane I liked off the internet and sent the pictures.
His link is customairmodels@gmail.com
The final product will be polished smooth, without the blemishes in the photo.
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Joe Pringle
Atlanta, GA
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| Subject: | Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! |
Oscar if you need any photos of a C85 assembly let me know...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Jul 15, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good stuff. Will do. This is what home building and experimenting is all about.
>
> Scott
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2013-07-15, at 12:25 PM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Scott; thanks a million! I'll post this reply to the list and not just to you
individually since the same general comment will apply no matter what the technical
topic: by all means, assemble any information you can get on the Lubitz
Escort conversion! Write the piece, get photos, do the interview... and send
it along! No matter whether the "special" Piet issue becomes reality or not,
this type of story is always of interest, and it sparks creative thinking.
Run with it!
>>
>> I'm also thinking that Greg Bacon/John Dilatush's "Mountain Piet" would be a
prime candidate for write-up as well. I don't know of any other turbocharged
Subaru Air Campers out there!
>>
>> --------
>> Oscar Zuniga
>> Medford, OR
>> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
>> A75 power
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404715#404715
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| Subject: | Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts |
Tom,
I will not make it to Broadhead, would you send them to me? I can send cash, check,
etc.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
843 Jay Street
Colusa, Ca 95932
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 15, 2013, at 11:30 AM, "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Ray,
>
> I've been contacted by several others, and I'm going to bring 10 of the bags
with me, unless others contact me in the next few days.
>
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> Tom Kreiner
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| Subject: | Re: Continental Conn Rod Bolts |
Tom,
Could you give the bolts to some one from CA to bring them to me? I can send you
a check, or get cash to you.
Thanks,
Ray
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:28 AM, "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If you have a small Continental, i.e., an A or C series engine, even an O-200,
this may be of interest to you. We're offering this to the Piet list members
first, EAA 302 members second (my EAA Chapter), and plan to list any remaining
items on eBay after OSH.
>
> Continental P/N 530213 is the replacement Conn Rod Bolt for all of the above
referenced engines (also used on some engines that are quite a bit larger and
generally not used on a Piet.) My IA has recommended that because I don't know
the history of my engine... it would be very wise to replace these.
>
> About half the bolts are packed in the paper/foil US procurement bags, and are
NOS items from Fed Surplus. New, unused, unwrapped. The other half are in single
bags, and/or unbagged, as we've opened a few to see what was inside.
>
> After a net search, we've found that the sellers with the $12 item cost generally
don't have stock... and the most available parts are around $16 each.
>
> Since the sealed bags hold 10 pieces, we're offering them for $100., which is
only $10. per bolt. The loose bolts will also be the same cost. I will be prepared
to bring these to Brodhead, to save on shipping costs, if you're interested.
>
> Supply is limited, so if you need any, PM me ASAP.
>
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> Tom Kreiner
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| Subject: | Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! |
Jack;
I think there is plenty of technical content to put together an article devoted
to small Continental engines and how to get the most from them. I love these
engines and would love to see a story on building and modding them.
With airplanes like Jon Sharp's "Nemesis" and Hoot Gibson's Cassutt, there is evidence
that these engines can be encouraged to put out a lot more than their
rated power with some judicious modification. Add things like the P-Mag and there
is plenty to explore.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: custom wooden model |
Like the paint job, is your full scale version going to be just the same?
rickh
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:15 PM, pringljo <joseph.pringle@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> I just wanted to share some pictures of the model I am having made. I am
> doing this for inspiration, since it will be a few years before I have a
> finished plane. I have no connection to this company, except as a
> customer. It cost me about $180 for a fairly large model (24 in wing).
>
> I just picked a picture of a plane I liked off the internet and sent the
> pictures.
>
> His link is customairmodels@gmail.com
>
> The final product will be polished smooth, without the blemishes in the
> photo.
>
> --------
> Joe Pringle
> Atlanta, GA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404735#404735
>
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Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? |
Weather permitting, Airlion will be There if my crank doesn't break. gardine
r
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On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:46 AM, "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wrot
e:
> Weather permitting, =9CIcarus Plummet=9D will be there.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:20 AM
> To: pietenpolgroup
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
>
> Been hearing of a few planes which aren=99t gonna make Brodhead this
year and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to dr
op out?
>
> Weather permitting, =9CRE-PIET=9D will be there.
>
> Douwe
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
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Hi Jack , Gardiner, Douwe and everyone.Miss le Bec will be there. Plan on le
aving wed or Thursday .
Randy Bush
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On Jul 15, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Lion Mason <airlion2@gmail.com> wrote:
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ote:
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>> Weather permitting, =9CIcarus Plummet=9D will be there.
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>> NX899JP
>> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-l
ist-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg
>> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 9:20 AM
>> To: pietenpolgroup
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
>>
>> Been hearing of a few planes which aren=99t gonna make Brodhead thi
s year and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who is having to d
rop out?
>>
>> Weather permitting, =9CRE-PIET=9D will be there.
>>
>> Douwe
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not? |
The G. Owen Loensloe Air Service Piet will be there, God willing. I'll make
the long cross-country (28 naut. miles) from Poplar Grove on Wed. or Thurs
.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 1:20 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Brodhead and who's not?
Been hearing of a few planes which aren=99t gonna makeBrodhead this y
ear and was wondering who is planning on flying up and who ishaving to drop
out?
Weather permitting, =9CRE-PIET=9D will be there.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! |
I think some input from William Wynn and Dan Weseman would be a must.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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I missed the call out on the plans for the 1/8 plywood piece that reinforces the
hinges. Instead, I used 1/16th. On the h.s. do think I would be OK gluing another
1/16 doubler there?
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Joe Pringle
Atlanta, GA
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Mine doesn't have any at all... so ya, it'll be fine just gluing in another layer.
I'm gonna retrofit metal plates like the Std.
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| Subject: | Thanks a lot guys |
UNCLASSIFIED
Thanks, guys, you jinxed me.
Tonight, I saw a small solidified drip of epoxy on a floorboard. Easy, I grabbed
a razor and determined to trim it off. About the time I thought, "I should really
slow down and do this right." The blade cut through the epoxy and jabbed
into the fleshy part of my palm, next to my thumb. At least the blood somewhat
matched the dark stain I had used.
Then again, most of my successful projects have been baptized with a blood sacrifice.
Maybe this will get my projects back on track. So maybe you are forgiven.
Blue Skies,
Steve D.
UNCLASSIFIED
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| Subject: | Re: Thanks a lot guys |
Few are the trails leading to completed projects which are not crusted with dried
blood, damp with tears, and salty from sweat. Rather than being jinxed, you're
experiencing one of the things that makes a successful project an even more
valuable and memorable accomplishment. No pain, no gain.
Put a butterfly bandage on the cut, be glad that it was a clean slice from a razor
blade, and be careful next time. You know there will be a next time... there
would be no market for Band-Aids or first aid kits if there weren't "next
times" ;o)
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
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| Subject: | Re: all-Piet issue of Contact! |
Paul; thanks for the comment. Of course William and "Wese" are invaluable resources
when it comes to the Corvair conversion, and I am in touch with both of
them as the need arises. William and Grace are planning to publish a Piet-specific
manual with tips, tricks, and other valuable information. They love the
Piet as much as we do.
That said, I'll also mention that the focus of the Contact! articles will be on
as broad a range of applications as I can round up for the issue, and I'm going
to try to have the magazine compliment William & Grace's publication, not duplicate
it. We will absolutely, positively include a current example of a Corvair
Air Camper, and may contrast it with Mr. Pietenpol's early Corvair conversions
using the top shroud blower and mostly stock internal components. There
is an excellent selection of current PietVairs... as well as others in the offing
(Kevin Purtee's reincarnated "Fat Bottomed Girl" being one example). It
is good that there are so many targets of opportunity.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
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| Subject: | Re: Upcoming Corvair Colleges |
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Hi Rick
I actually have #3, a Sky Scout in my barn out in the back yard. It
was going to get a Harley Davidson engine but that plan isnt working out
.So here is the announcement, I am going to build a set of floats at
Sun n Fun next year and Dave Aldrich is going to build the same thing. I
am going to put the floats on my Sky Scout and on the plane during the
winter months I will put skiis on.
Thats my story and I;m sticking to it.
Dick N
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----- Original Message ----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Upcoming Corvair Colleges
Dick
You are not thinking about building a third Piet, this time with a
Corvair are you?
rick h
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net>
wrote:
<horzpool@goldengate.net>
Kevin
I also heard there is another onr coming to Oshkosh in October. I
am planning on going to that one it it happens.
Dick N.
----- Original Message ----- From: "kevinpurtee"
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:43 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Upcoming Corvair Colleges
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
If you're thinking about using a Corvair then you should strongly
consider attending a college.
CC26 will be in Mexico, MO 18-20 Sep 13.
CC27 will be in Barnwell, SC 8-10 Nov 13.
CC28 will be in San Marcos, TX 28 Feb-2 Mar 14.
Shelley has made Facebook pages for each event. We're hosting the
TX event so CC28's page will be updated frequently. She'll update the
other two events as she gets information. You can also contact Zenith
Aircraft for information on CC26 & PF Beck for CC27.
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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