---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/18/13: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:36 AM - Brat Fest III (Jack) 2. 04:44 AM - Re: Brat Fest III (Jack Phillips) 3. 05:38 AM - Re: Brat Fest III (airlion2@gmail.com) 4. 05:49 AM - if you helped with "RE-PIET"... (Douwe Blumberg) 5. 07:23 AM - Re: Brat Fest III (helspersew@aol.com) 6. 07:23 AM - Re: Brat Fest III (echobravo4) 7. 08:44 AM - Re: Brat Fest III (Rick) 8. 09:00 AM - Re: Brat Fest III (TOM STINEMETZE) 9. 10:55 AM - Re: Brat Fest III (Lion Mason) 10. 10:59 AM - Re: Brat Fest III (Jack Phillips) 11. 11:39 AM - Matt's KLVK ATC Streaming... (Matt Dralle) 12. 11:49 AM - Re: Matt's KLVK ATC Streaming... (Gary Boothe) 13. 11:55 AM - EAA 534 Piet question (John Weber) 14. 12:03 PM - Re: Brat Fest III (airlion2@gmail.com) 15. 12:15 PM - Re: Brat Fest III (Jack Phillips) 16. 12:16 PM - Re: EAA 534 Piet question (Rick Holland) 17. 12:31 PM - Re: EAA 534 Piet question (John Weber) 18. 12:42 PM - Re: Brat Fest III (Jack) 19. 01:44 PM - Re: Brat Fest III (coxwelljon) 20. 02:15 PM - Corvair on a GN-1 (coxwelljon) 21. 02:37 PM - Re: Model-A throttle response (Michael Weston) 22. 03:00 PM - Re: Brat Fest III (K5YAC) 23. 04:15 PM - Re: Model-A throttle response (BYD) 24. 06:28 PM - Re: EAA 534 Piet question (coxwelljon) 25. 06:45 PM - Landing gear springs (nightair) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:10 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III Piet friends, Susan and I are looking forward to hosting lunch at Brodhead Friday, July 26th, 11:30 to 12:30. We will be located on the SE edge of the field by the white fence. http://www.eaa431.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/C37-Fly-In-Diagram.jpg We will have a 100 brats, salad and chips. When they are gone, they are gone. Please bring a drink and chair. Look for the 45 foot brown and black Thor diesel. Looking forward to it, let's hope for great weather! We will be arriving Thursday departing Saturday AM. Jack and Susan Jack Textor Des Moines, IA Cell 515-490-5177 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:04 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III Jack, thanks in advance! I'm looking forward to it. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____________________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 7:36 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III Piet friends, Susan and I are looking forward to hosting lunch at Brodhead Friday, July 26th, 11:30 to 12:30. We will be located on the SE edge of the field by the white fence. http://www.eaa431.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/C37-Fly-In-Diagram.jpg We will have a 100 brats, salad and chips. When they are gone, they are gone. Please bring a drink and chair. Look for the 45 foot brown and black Thor diesel. Looking forward to it, let's hope for great weather! We will be arriving Thursday departing Saturday AM. Jack and Susan Jack Textor Des Moines, IA Cell 515-490-5177 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III From: airlion2@gmail.com Jack, I plan to be there also. Thanks for the invite. Gardiner mason Sent from my iPad On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:35 AM, "Jack" wrote: > Piet friends, Susan and I are looking forward to hosting lunch at Brodhead > Friday, July 26th, 11:30 to 12:30. We will be located on the SE edge of the > field by the white fence. > http://www.eaa431.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/C37-Fly-In-Diagram.jpg We > will have a 100 brats, salad and chips. When they are gone, they are gone. > Please bring a drink and chair. Look for the 45 foot brown and black Thor > diesel. Looking forward to it, let's hope for great weather! We will be > arriving Thursday departing Saturday AM. > Jack and Susan > > Jack Textor > Des Moines, IA > Cell 515-490-5177 > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:30 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: if you helped with "RE-PIET"... If you helped in any way getting RE-PIET rebuilt (and you know who you are.), please be sure to find me at Brodhead. I want everyone to sign somewhere inside the cowling. Thanks! Douwe ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III From: helspersew@aol.com See you there! Wouldn't miss it! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Jack Sent: Thu, Jul 18, 2013 6:36 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III Piet friends, Susan and I are looking forward to hosting lunch at Brodhead Friday, July 26th, 11:30 to 12:30. We will be located on the SE edge of the field by the white fence. http://www.eaa431.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/C37-Fly-In-Diagram.jpg We will have a 100 brats, salad and chips. When they are gone, they are gone. Please bring a drink and chair. Look for the 45 foot brown and black Thor diesel. Looking forward to it, let's hope for great weather! We will be arriving Thursday departing Saturday AM. Jack and Susan Jack Textor Des Moines, IA Cell 515-490-5177 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:40 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brat Fest III From: "echobravo4" Thanks Jack! Can't wait -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404868#404868 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:26 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III From: Rick Thanks for continuing to do this Susan and Jack. I will be there. Rick Schreiber Sent from my iPad On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:35 AM, "Jack" wrote: > Piet friends, Susan and I are looking forward to hosting lunch at Brodhead > Friday, July 26th, 11:30 to 12:30. We will be located on the SE edge of the > field by the white fence. > http://www.eaa431.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/C37-Fly-In-Diagram.jpg We > will have a 100 brats, salad and chips. When they are gone, they are gone. > Please bring a drink and chair. Look for the 45 foot brown and black Thor > diesel. Looking forward to it, let's hope for great weather! We will be > arriving Thursday departing Saturday AM. > Jack and Susan > > Jack Textor > Des Moines, IA > Cell 515-490-5177 > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:36 AM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III Susan and Jack: Never having been to the Brodhead gathering before I am getting excited just thinking about it. My wife and I will be there for the brats and the companionship of Pietenpeople. You are to be commended for starting and continuing the bratfest tradition. We are wimping out and staying in a motel in Monroe but will be happy to add our vehicle to the list for helping others get into town and such. We're still a couple of years out from having our own Piet ready to fly in. Praying for cooler weather and an absence of the Wisconsin State bird. Tom and Sharon Stinemetze N328X ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:55:36 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III From: Lion Mason Thanks Tom , I would like to make an ice run at some point. Gardiner Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "TOM STINEMETZE" wrote: > > Susan and Jack: > > Never having been to the Brodhead gathering before I am getting excited just thinking about it. My wife and I will be there for the brats and the companionship of Pietenpeople. You are to be commended for starting and continuing the bratfest tradition. > > We are wimping out and staying in a motel in Monroe but will be happy to add our vehicle to the list for helping others get into town and such. We're still a couple of years out from having our own Piet ready to fly in. > > Praying for cooler weather and an absence of the Wisconsin State bird. > Tom and Sharon Stinemetze > N328X > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:59:55 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III Gardiner, are you flying "Lucky" up to Brodhead this year? Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lion Mason Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III Thanks Tom , I would like to make an ice run at some point. Gardiner Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "TOM STINEMETZE" wrote: > > Susan and Jack: > > Never having been to the Brodhead gathering before I am getting excited just thinking about it. My wife and I will be there for the brats and the companionship of Pietenpeople. You are to be commended for starting and continuing the bratfest tradition. > > We are wimping out and staying in a motel in Monroe but will be happy to add our vehicle to the list for helping others get into town and such. We're still a couple of years out from having our own Piet ready to fly in. > > Praying for cooler weather and an absence of the Wisconsin State bird. > Tom and Sharon Stinemetze > N328X > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:22 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Matt's KLVK ATC Streaming... Dear Listers, A couple of weeks ago I found a web site on the Internet called LiveATC.net that has the Air Traffic Control (ATC) tower communications on line for streaming for a number of airports around the country. Lo 'n behold, they even have a stream for my home base, the Livermore Airport. But, much to my dismay, the quality of their KLVK feed was just plain awful. It was obvious the airband source didn't have a decent antenna or perhaps even a good radio. I suppose that given that their site is a consortium of local citizens providing the feeds, the lack of quality goes with the territory. But, I really liked the idea of being able to monitor the LVK ATC and also the ability to bring up the archives and listen to my personal communications with the tower after a flight. Since I had a computer at the hangar along with a pretty decent Internet connection and, in the spirit of Experimental Homebuilding, I had an idea... I mounted an air-band antenna on the top of the hangar and brought the RG-58 coax down to near the computer and plugged it into my trusty Icom IC-A20 hand held. I was AMAZED at the quality of signal I was getting. It was picking up guys in airplanes 19 miles out like they were sitting next to my hangar! I set the radio to high-speed scan between the Tower and Ground frequencies so with a single feed I could get all communications. So next, I made an audio connection from the handheld to the Line In input on the computer. Sure enough, now I was getting great sound from the hand held on the computer! I found some software from Australia called BroadWave from a company called NCH ( http://www.nch.com.au/streaming ). It lets you connect to the Line In port on the computer and then generate real time audio streams that can be served up via the Internet. And sure enough, it works great! Next, I found some software from Germany called Loop Recorder ( http://looprecorder.de ) that let's you monitor an audio input on your computer and generate archive files. You can select an increment in which to rotate the files automatically, for example, every 30 minutes. I downloaded this software and installed it and sure enough, I was able to start archiving the ATC transmissions coming in, all the while streaming them live as well! The last piece of the puzzle was to enable the Web and FTP servers on the Windows 7 system and come up with a front-end web page that would tie all of these new resources together for easy access from the Internet. I'm happy to report, the whole thing came together very nicely and even allows you stream directly to your Android or iPhone as well as your desktop! Pretty darn cool! And so, without further ado, here is my new web site for monitoring the ATC communications at KLVK: http://klvk.matronics.com/ Just to state the obvious, the stream is silent if there isn't any current ATC or aircraft communications. During the day, you'll usually hear something within five or ten minutes. Sometimes much quicker. I contacted LiveATC.net and they were excited about adding my new stream to their web site as well. So, at some point soon, the LiveATC.net feed for Livermore Airport will be coming from my hangar! My site http://klvk.matronics.com will continue to be available as well. For entertainment purposes only! - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log Status: 170+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream! Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too! For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:49:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Matt's KLVK ATC Streaming... From: Gary Boothe Matt, You are amazing! Thanks! You did everything exactly as I would have! :-0 Gary Boothe NX308MB Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Matt Dralle wrote: > > > Dear Listers, > > A couple of weeks ago I found a web site on the Internet called LiveATC.net that has the Air Traffic Control (ATC) tower communications on line for streaming for a number of airports around the country. Lo 'n behold, they even have a stream for my home base, the Livermore Airport. But, much to my dismay, the quality of their KLVK feed was just plain awful. It was obvious the airband source didn't have a decent antenna or perhaps even a good radio. I suppose that given that their site is a consortium of local citizens providing the feeds, the lack of quality goes with the territory. > > But, I really liked the idea of being able to monitor the LVK ATC and also the ability to bring up the archives and listen to my personal communications with the tower after a flight. > > Since I had a computer at the hangar along with a pretty decent Internet connection and, in the spirit of Experimental Homebuilding, I had an idea... I mounted an air-band antenna on the top of the hangar and brought the RG-58 coax down to near the computer and plugged it into my trusty Icom IC-A20 hand held. I was AMAZED at the quality of signal I was getting. It was picking up guys in airplanes 19 miles out like they were sitting next to my hangar! I set the radio to high-speed scan between the Tower and Ground frequencies so with a single feed I could get all communications. > > So next, I made an audio connection from the handheld to the Line In input on the computer. Sure enough, now I was getting great sound from the hand held on the computer! I found some software from Australia called BroadWave from a company called NCH ( http://www.nch.com.au/streaming ). It lets you connect to the Line In port on the computer and then generate real time audio streams that can be served up via the Internet. And sure enough, it works great! > > Next, I found some software from Germany called Loop Recorder ( http://looprecorder.de ) that let's you monitor an audio input on your computer and generate archive files. You can select an increment in which to rotate the files automatically, for example, every 30 minutes. I downloaded this software and installed it and sure enough, I was able to start archiving the ATC transmissions coming in, all the while streaming them live as well! > > The last piece of the puzzle was to enable the Web and FTP servers on the Windows 7 system and come up with a front-end web page that would tie all of these new resources together for easy access from the Internet. I'm happy to report, the whole thing came together very nicely and even allows you stream directly to your Android or iPhone as well as your desktop! Pretty darn cool! > > And so, without further ado, here is my new web site for monitoring the ATC communications at KLVK: > > http://klvk.matronics.com/ > > Just to state the obvious, the stream is silent if there isn't any current ATC or aircraft communications. During the day, you'll usually hear something within five or ten minutes. Sometimes much quicker. > > I contacted LiveATC.net and they were excited about adding my new stream to their web site as well. So, at some point soon, the LiveATC.net feed for Livermore Airport will be coming from my hangar! My site http://klvk.matronics.com will continue to be available as well. > > For entertainment purposes only! > > > > - > Matt Dralle > > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > > RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" > http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log > Status: 170+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode > > Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream! > Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore > Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too! > For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:55:45 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA 534 Piet question From: John Weber Hi all, We are helping one of our members finish up his Piet that he was planning on using a model A engine in. The motor mount is assembled, but the engine is not installed at this point. The question came up today about what it would take to install a Corvair engine instead. It is one of the long fuselage designs. Thanks in advance for your comments. John Weber Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:03:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III From: airlion2@gmail.com Yes jack. I am flying the airlion up to Brodhead and leaving Monday am early. Where did you get the name lucky from. Gardiner since I am low and slow I need an early start. Sent from my iPad On Jul 18, 2013, at 1:59 PM, "Jack Phillips" > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lion Mason > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:55 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III > > > Thanks Tom , I would like to make an ice run at some point. Gardiner > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "TOM STINEMETZE" wrote: > >> >> Susan and Jack: >> >> Never having been to the Brodhead gathering before I am getting excited > just thinking about it. My wife and I will be there for the brats and the > companionship of Pietenpeople. You are to be commended for starting and > continuing the bratfest tradition. >> >> We are wimping out and staying in a motel in Monroe but will be happy to > add our vehicle to the list for helping others get into town and such. > We're still a couple of years out from having our own Piet ready to fly in. >> >> Praying for cooler weather and an absence of the Wisconsin State bird. >> Tom and Sharon Stinemetze >> N328X > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:15:27 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III I figured after its adventure at SNF a couple of years ago, Lucky was a good name for it. I'm heading up Tuesday, to arrive either late Wednesday or early Thursday morning Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion2@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III Yes jack. I am flying the airlion up to Brodhead and leaving Monday am early. Where did you get the name lucky from. Gardiner since I am low and slow I need an early start. Sent from my iPad On Jul 18, 2013, at 1:59 PM, "Jack Phillips" > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lion Mason > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:55 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III > > > Thanks Tom , I would like to make an ice run at some point. Gardiner > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "TOM STINEMETZE" wrote: > >> >> Susan and Jack: >> >> Never having been to the Brodhead gathering before I am getting excited > just thinking about it. My wife and I will be there for the brats and the > companionship of Pietenpeople. You are to be commended for starting and > continuing the bratfest tradition. >> >> We are wimping out and staying in a motel in Monroe but will be happy to > add our vehicle to the list for helping others get into town and such. > We're still a couple of years out from having our own Piet ready to fly in. >> >> Praying for cooler weather and an absence of the Wisconsin State bird. >> Tom and Sharon Stinemetze >> N328X > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:16:05 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA 534 Piet question From: Rick Holland Hello John I would think you would do the same thing I did before I built the engine mount for my long fuse corvair, do a weight and balance with everything assembled (but an engine of course) and then back calculate where a 220 pound ready to fly corvair engine with oil and wood prop would need to be to center your CG (I hung some weight from under where my fuel tank is to account for fuel). Then build your corvair engine mount accordingly (William Wynne has complete instructions for one in his conversion manual). Also 90% of William's 601 firewall forward manual applies to Piets or any other aircraft with a corvair. rick h On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, John Weber wrote: > > Hi all, > We are helping one of our members finish up his Piet that he was > planning on using a model A engine in. The motor mount is assembled, but > the engine is not installed at this point. The question came up today > about what it would take to install a Corvair engine instead. It is one of > the long fuselage designs. Thanks in advance for your comments. John Weber > > Sent from my iPad > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:31:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA 534 Piet question From: John Weber Thanks Rick. John Sent from my iPad On Jul 18, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Rick Holland wrote: > Hello John > > I would think you would do the same thing I did before I built the engine m ount for my long fuse corvair, do a weight and balance with everything assem bled (but an engine of course) and then back calculate where a 220 pound rea dy to fly corvair engine with oil and wood prop would need to be to center y our CG (I hung some weight from under where my fuel tank is to account for f uel). Then build your corvair engine mount accordingly (William Wynne has co mplete instructions for one in his conversion manual). > > Also 90% of William's 601 firewall forward manual applies to Piets or any o ther aircraft with a corvair. > > rick h > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, John Weber wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> We are helping one of our members finish up his Piet that he was planni ng on using a model A engine in. The motor mount is assembled, but the engi ne is not installed at this point. The question came up today about what it would take to install a Corvair engine instead. It is one of the long fusel age designs. Thanks in advance for your comments. John Weber >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ========== >> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== > > > > -- > Rick Holland > Castle Rock, Colorado > NX6819Z > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:42:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III From: Jack I had a Sig Senior RC called Lucky... Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Jul 18, 2013, at 2:13 PM, "Jack Phillips" wrote: > > I figured after its adventure at SNF a couple of years ago, Lucky was a good > name for it. > > I'm heading up Tuesday, to arrive either late Wednesday or early Thursday > morning > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > airlion2@gmail.com > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:03 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III > > > Yes jack. I am flying the airlion up to Brodhead and leaving Monday am > early. Where did you get the name lucky from. Gardiner since I am low and > slow I need an early start. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 1:59 PM, "Jack Phillips" year? >> >> Jack Phillips >> NX899JP >> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lion Mason >> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:55 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brat Fest III >> >> >> Thanks Tom , I would like to make an ice run at some point. Gardiner >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:58 AM, "TOM STINEMETZE" wrote: >> >>> >>> Susan and Jack: >>> >>> Never having been to the Brodhead gathering before I am getting excited >> just thinking about it. My wife and I will be there for the brats and the >> companionship of Pietenpeople. You are to be commended for starting and >> continuing the bratfest tradition. >>> >>> We are wimping out and staying in a motel in Monroe but will be happy to >> add our vehicle to the list for helping others get into town and such. >> We're still a couple of years out from having our own Piet ready to fly > in. >>> >>> Praying for cooler weather and an absence of the Wisconsin State bird. >>> Tom and Sharon Stinemetze >>> N328X > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:44:32 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brat Fest III From: "coxwelljon" Thanks Jack, I hope to see you there. My grandson and I enjoyed meeting you last year. Unfortunately he will not be able to come this year but I will be there. -------- Jon Coxwell GN-1 Builder Recycle and preserve the planet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404906#404906 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:15:33 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair on a GN-1 From: "coxwelljon" I l haven't posted lately or followed what was going on but thought I would bring the list up to date with some issues I have discovered with my GN-1. I bought mine as a partially completed project with a corvair engine supposedly rebuilt to WW specs. I won't go in to all that I had to do to the engine but the short answer was totally rebuild it. Last fall I ran the engine at a corvair college and then began to concentrate on the airframe. My fuselage was built but not covered. I hung the engine on the airframe and began to work on weight and balance. It is amazing how the subtle changes in geometry that Grega made add up. Putting the heavier corvair engine on the GN-1 which was a re-designed Piet for an A-65 makes it extremely nose heavy. The bolt on cub gear is also well behind the leading edge (9") which I think would make for some potential nose overs on taxing. I hung the engine on in flight attitude and the tail was definitely negative. The GN-1 wing is fixed and does not move back and forth like the Piet. My motor mount that came with the project had the engine well out in front, probably 8 to 10" ahead of the firewall. Weight and balance looked horrible. I rebuilt the motor mount which moved the engine back to minimum clearance from the fire wall which puts more weight on the tail when in 3 point attitude on the ground. I then redesigned the vertical cabane attachments so the wing would rotate like a piet. I then moved the wing back 4" to make the weight and balance work while in the air. I spent a lot of time reading through William Wynne's weight and balance articles that appeared in the Brodhead news letter. I recommend anyone building a Piet of GN-1 do this as there is some excellent information there. And if you are building a GN-1 with a corvair do some serious W&B calcs early on. It may save you a lot of work. All this added probably 6 months to my build time. These are the things you don't think about when you buy someone else's project and don't have the benefit of what was in their head while constructing. in my case what was in the heads of at least 3 previous builders. My airplane will no longer be a GN-1 nor will it be a true Piet. I think I will dub it an Adirondack Aircamper in honor of its last home before it flies. Jon Coxwell GN-1, 100 hp corvair -------- Jon Coxwell GN-1 Builder Recycle and preserve the planet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404908#404908 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:37:49 PM PST US From: Michael Weston Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model-A throttle response two quick questions,1)what carb are you using? 2)what inlet? ok, three, does it have an accelerator pump? ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:00:26 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brat Fest III From: "K5YAC" Looking forward to seeing all of you next week... thanks for the invite Jack. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404912#404912 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:27 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model-A throttle response From: "BYD" smikewest(at)comcast.net wrote: > two quick questions,1)what carb are you using? 2)what inlet? ok, three, does it have an accelerator pump? 1) Model-B Zenith (Type 3), 2) not sure what you're asking (inlet) and 3) no, it doesn't have an accelerator pump. Think I may have a solution though. Thanks for responding. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404913#404913 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:44 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: EAA 534 Piet question From: "coxwelljon" John, William Wynne makes motor mounts for the Piet. They are quite nice with powder coat finish and quite light. If you contact him @ Flycorvair.com he will no doubt tell you exactly what information he needs. BTW my engine weighs closer to 245# with mostly stock parts and a 5th main bearing. I think the model you describe would be an excellent candidate for a corvair. Also get some back issues of the Brodhead news letter and find William Wynne's articles about Weight and balance. -------- Jon Coxwell GN-1 Builder Recycle and preserve the planet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404917#404917 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:28 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Landing gear springs From: "nightair" Hello. I am looking for an opinion regarding the use of the 06-13200 coil spring on the Pietenpol gear. I have a scratch built tail dragger, single seat, 430 lbs empty, 650 max. Are these springs overkill for this aircraft weight.? If so can someone recommend a lighter spring. 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