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1. 08:40 AM - Re: Aluminum size/thickness (shad bell)
2. 08:59 AM - Re: Ray's covering question (Ray Krause)
3. 09:11 AM - Re: Aluminum size/thickness (Ray Krause)
4. 10:35 AM - Re: Aluminum size/thickness (shad bell)
5. 12:18 PM - Varnish Application w/ Wagner Power Sprayer (Bob Dewenter)
6. 02:06 PM - Re: Aluminum size/thickness (Necia Chase-Davis)
7. 02:37 PM - Re: Aluminum size/thickness (Bill Church)
8. 02:51 PM - Re: Re: Aluminum size/thickness (shad bell)
9. 02:57 PM - Re: Re: Aluminum size/thickness (Necia Chase-Davis)
10. 06:49 PM - Carlson aircraft strut fittings (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
11. 08:27 PM - Re: Aluminum size/thickness (Ray Krause)
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum size/thickness |
If anyone needs .020 2024 T3=C2-aluminum, I just purchased a lot from a T
eenie Two builder and will sell it cheeper than Aircraft spruce, I have at
least 6ea =C2-4' by 8' sheets wrapped and protected, it's more than I wil
l need in 2 life times.=C2- Local pickup only.=0A=C2-=0AShad=0A=C2-
=0A=C2-=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Jack Phillips
<jack@bedfordlandings.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tues
day, July 30, 2013 9:31 PM=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum size/thi
ckness=0A =0A=0A=0A =0A0.025=9D Aluminum 2024-T3 is what I=0Aused.
=0A=C2- =0AJack Phillips =0ANX899JP =0ASmith Mountain lake, Virginia (tem
porarily=0ABrodhead, Wisconsin) =0A=C2- =0A=0A___________________________
_____=0A =0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-p
ietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Quinn=0ASent: Tuesday,
July 30, 2013 8:24=0APM=0ATo: Piet list=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Aluminu
m=0Asize/thickness =0A=C2- =0AI'm about to order the aluminum for the co
ckpit area, maybe=0Athe cowl area too. My question is what is the best thic
kness to use. =0A=C2- =0AThanks! =0A=C2- =0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Ahttp:
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| Subject: | Re: Ray's covering question |
Douwe,
Thanks for the response to your non secret paint formula. My dad owned a hob
by shop when I was young and we built LOTS of air planes. Our shop and home a
lways smelled of nitrate and butyrate dope, we sold it in bulk. I love the s
mell, but it gives me a terrible me a terrible headache! I don't think I hav
e enough brain reserve at this stage of my life to use the dope again!
Has anyone found a clear latex-like product with UV protection? Stewart's, m
aybe? I agree with you about the plane not being in the UV light enough to d
isintegrate during our life times. I talked to the Stewart's rep here in our
area and he said they have an adhesive now that is not colored green, just f
or those who want to go "natural". He did not know about a clear final coat.
Looking forward to you Broadhead flight adventures.
Thanks again,
Ray Krause
SkyScout coming along.
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 30, 2013, at 6:10 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> No secret Ray,
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> Thanks for the kind words!
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> I wanted to replicate the old doped linen look which I find beautiful as t
he light comes through it.
>
> It sounds like the plane you are referring to is probably Dick=99s R
otec powered Piet. Ours are a bit different from eachother.
>
> I used ceconite and traditional dope. The dope was all clear however, whi
ch I tinted using standard artist powdered pigments. I experimented on scra
p until found the right strength. Each sprayed coat added a tiny bit of col
or until I had the right number of coats and the right tint. I did add UV p
rotector to the dope to help some.
>
> The green is latex on the ceconite and auto enamel on the cowling and meta
l.
>
> I figure my plane will always be hangared and will only see a few hours of
sunlight a year, so I won=99t worry about UV damage for a few decades
.
>
> Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum size/thickness |
What is "local"? I forgot!
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:39 AM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If anyone needs .020 2024 T3 aluminum, I just purchased a lot from a Teeni
e Two builder and will sell it cheeper than Aircraft spruce, I have at least
6ea 4' by 8' sheets wrapped and protected, it's more than I will need in 2
life times. Local pickup only.
>
> Shad
>
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> From: Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:31 PM
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum size/thickness
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> 0.025=9D Aluminum 2024-T3 is what I used.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain lake, Virginia (temporarily Brodhead, Wisconsin)
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Quinn
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:24 PM
> To: Piet list
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum size/thickness
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> I'm about to order the aluminum for the cockpit area, maybe the cowl area t
oo. My question is what is the best thickness to use.
>
> Thanks!
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum size/thickness |
I am in=C2-Centerburg, Ohio=0AShad=0A =0A=0A_____________________________
___=0A From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>=0ATo: "pietenpol-list@m
atronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Wednesday, July 31, 2
013 12:10 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum size/thickness=0A =0A
=0A=0AWhat is "local"? I forgot!=0A=0AThanks,=0A=0ARay Krause=0A=0ASent fro
m my iPad=0A=0AOn Jul 31, 2013, at 8:39 AM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.co
m> wrote:=0A=0A=0AIf anyone needs .020 2024 T3=C2-aluminum, I just purcha
sed a lot from a Teenie Two builder and will sell it cheeper than Aircraft
spruce, I have at least 6ea =C2-4' by 8' sheets wrapped and protected, it
's more than I will need in 2 life times.=C2- Local pickup only.=0A>=C2
-=0A>Shad=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>=0A> =0A>=0A>___________________________
_____=0A> From: Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>=0A>To: pietenpol-l
ist@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:31 PM=0A>Subject: RE:
Pietenpol-List: Aluminum size/thickness=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>0.025
=9D Aluminum 2024-T3 is what I=0Aused. =0A>=C2- =0A>Jack Phillips =0A>NX8
99JP =0A>Smith Mountain lake, Virginia (temporarily=0ABrodhead, Wisconsin)
=0A>=C2- =0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> =0A>From:owner-pie
tenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matron
ics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Quinn=0A>Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:24=0APM
=0A>To: Piet list=0A>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum=0Asize/thickness
=0A>=C2- =0A>I'm about to order the aluminum for the cockpit area, maybe
=0Athe cowl area too. My question is what is the best thickness to use.
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| Subject: | Varnish Application w/ Wagner Power Sprayer |
Has anyone tried using a Wagner power sprayer to apply helmsman spar varnish to
any of the fuselage, tail sections, wing, etc? I'm wondering how well it worked
if at all, and what kind of finish it would leave on the interior surfaces
of the fuselage?
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum size/thickness |
Don't forget that Aircraft Spruce does price match though:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pricematch.php
:)
----- Original Message -----
From: shad bell
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum size/thickness
If anyone needs .020 2024 T3 aluminum, I just purchased a lot from a
Teenie Two builder and will sell it cheeper than Aircraft spruce, I have
at least 6ea 4' by 8' sheets wrapped and protected, it's more than I
will need in 2 life times. Local pickup only.
Shad
From: Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum size/thickness
0.025=9D Aluminum 2024-T3 is what I used.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain lake, Virginia (temporarily Brodhead, Wisconsin)
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Quinn
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:24 PM
To: Piet list
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum size/thickness
I'm about to order the aluminum for the cockpit area, maybe the cowl
area too. My question is what is the best thickness to use.
Thanks!
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum size/thickness |
I think Aircraft Spruce just earned a few points for having a sense of humor.
BC
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405741#405741
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum size/thickness |
Maybe I will just build a boat with it then.- "You ever been on a shrimp
boat?" "No but I've been on a really big boat"=0A-=0AShad=0A =0A=0A______
__________________________=0A From: Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>=0A
=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminum size/thickness=0A =0A=0A--> Piete
npol-List message posted by: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>=0A=0AI
think Aircraft Spruce just earned a few points for having a sense of humor.
=0A=0ABC=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matr
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum size/thickness |
Thank you Bill. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:37 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminum size/thickness
<billspiet@sympatico.ca>
I think Aircraft Spruce just earned a few points for having a sense of
humor.
BC
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405741#405741
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| Subject: | Carlson aircraft strut fittings |
I've just ordered some strut material from Carlson and I've been surfing the archives
on how the fittings are being made. It appears most folks are using 7075
aluminum inserts for the strut ends. I'm wondering why 7075. I understand
the strength is better but really the struts are 6061 so if the fittings are
twice as strong by using 7075, doesn't that just move the failure point to the
strut rather than the fitting? Plus the strut material material area that is
in contact with the bolts is much smaller than the area of the insert itself.
Is my logic flawed here?
I thought I read that the corrosion resistance is better in 6061 but I might be
mistaken as I've read a lot on the different alloys today and might have it confused
with another.
Thanks,
Tom Brant
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum size/thickness |
I don't think that would be a local pick-up for me! Thanks for the offer!
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:34 AM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am in Centerburg, Ohio
> Shad
>
> From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
> To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum size/thickness
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> What is "local"? I forgot!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Krause
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:39 AM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> If anyone needs .020 2024 T3 aluminum, I just purchased a lot from a Teen
ie Two builder and will sell it cheeper than Aircraft spruce, I have at leas
t 6ea 4' by 8' sheets wrapped and protected, it's more than I will need in 2
life times. Local pickup only.
>>
>> Shad
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:31 PM
>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum size/thickness
>>
>> 0.025=9D Aluminum 2024-T3 is what I used.
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>> NX899JP
>> Smith Mountain lake, Virginia (temporarily Brodhead, Wisconsin)
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-l
ist-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Quinn
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:24 PM
>> To: Piet list
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum size/thickness
>>
>> I'm about to order the aluminum for the cockpit area, maybe the cowl area
too. My question is what is the best thickness to use.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>> http://forums.matronics.com/
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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