---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/04/13: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:38 AM - Re: Latex Paint Forum (gliderx5@comcast.net) 2. 05:58 AM - Sunset over Brodhead (Douwe Blumberg) 3. 06:04 AM - Re: Latex Paint Forum (airlion2@gmail.com) 4. 06:36 AM - Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. (woodflier@aol.com) 5. 11:34 AM - Re: Latex Paint Forum (gliderx5@comcast.net) 6. 01:03 PM - Re: Latex Paint Forum (norm) 7. 07:14 PM - Re: Varnish Application w/ Wagner Power Sprayer (tools) 8. 09:19 PM - Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. (tools) 9. 10:06 PM - Re: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. (Gary Boothe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:29 AM PST US From: gliderx5@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum John , Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for attending the forum. I was blown away by the number of people and by all the really good questions. I had a blast. I think latex can be a good alternative to traditional finishes, and it can give you a better finish than most believe. I will get the updated presentation (Powerpoint slides) posted on my web site in the next week or so. I just got back yesterday and need to catch up on things first. Thanks again Malcolm ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Egan" <1smilingmoon@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:24:53 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum I'd like to thank Malcolm Morrison for presenting a great forum at EAA Airventure on painting using latex paint. I attended the forum, and photos of Malcolm's painted projects do not do his work justice. Using wet sanding , buffing and polishing techniques Malcolm creates a very, very nice finish on latex. Thank you Malcolm. On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:30 PM, < gliderx5@comcast.net > wrote: I just got word that I will be presenting a forum at Airventure on painting your homebuilt with latex paint, Wednesday, at 11:30. I plan to camp with my Titan Tornado in the ultralight area. If any of you are attending Airventure please stop by the forum or the camp site and say hi. I hope to be there from Sunday through Friday, weather permitting. I hope to be at Brodhead from Friday night to Sunday morning (weather permitting and with the Titan Tornado, Piet not done yet) See you there Malcolm http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Airplanes.htm http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Latex.htm " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:44 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sunset over Brodhead Marci just showed me this photo she took during our "Out of Africa" sunset flight. Douwe ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:38 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum From: airlion2@gmail.com Malcolm's, I have 2 coats of rolled on latex on my Piet Now. what can I do n ow to make look it look like what you described? Cheers, Gardiner Mason. Sent from my iPad On Aug 4, 2013, at 8:37 AM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: > John, > > Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for attending the forum. I was blow n away by the number of people and by all the really good questions. I had a blast. I think latex can be a good alternative to traditional finishes, and it can give you a better finish than most believe. I will get the updated p resentation (Powerpoint slides) posted on my web site in the next week or so . I just got back yesterday and need to catch up on things first. > > Thanks again > Malcolm > > From: "John Egan" <1smilingmoon@gmail.com> > To: "Pietenpol" > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:24:53 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum > > I'd like to thank Malcolm Morrison for presenting a great forum at EAA Air venture on painting using latex paint. I attended the forum, and photos of M alcolm's painted projects do not do his work justice. Using wet sanding , b uffing and polishing techniques Malcolm creates a very, very nice finish on l atex. Thank you Malcolm. > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:30 PM, wrote: >> I just got word that I will be presenting a forum at Airventure on painti ng your homebuilt with latex paint, Wednesday, at 11:30. I plan to camp with my Titan Tornado in the ultralight area. If any of you are attending Airven ture please stop by the forum or the camp site and say hi. I hope to be ther e from Sunday through Friday, weather permitting. >> >> I hope to be at Brodhead from Friday night to Sunday morning (weather per mitting and with the Titan Tornado, Piet not done yet) >> >> See you there >> Malcolm >> http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Airplanes.htm >> http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Latex.htm >> >> >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:10 AM PST US From: woodflier@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. Nice to see the article on classic homebuilts in SA. Particularly enjoyed seeing the pic of Dan Yocum's Piet. Matt Paxton Sent from my android device. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:48 AM PST US From: gliderx5@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum Gardiner Here's what I would try. Wet sand what you have with 600 grit paper wrapped around a sponge. You need to sand out and "orange peel" texture left from rolling. Get a cheap Harbor Freight gravity fed HVLP spray gun. They are $15.99 on sale. Thin your paint about 20% with wind shield washer fluid and spray 2 more coats, letting each dry for a day. Sand in between coats lightly with 600 grit wet. Stay away from the pinked tape and edges. Wet sand the final coat lightly and carefully with 1000 grit, then 1200 grit, then 1500 grit. Use 3M polishing compound with a buffer to bring out the shine. You can use the polishing compound on a towel around the edges and pinked areas. It sounds like a lot of work, but it really doesn't take that long and the results are worth it (in my opinion) Good luck and keep us posted on how you're doing Malcolm ----- Original Message ----- From: airlion2@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 9:04:23 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum Malcolm's, I have 2 coats of rolled on latex on my Piet Now. what can I do now to make look it look like what you described? Cheers, Gardiner Mason. Sent from my iPad On Aug 4, 2013, at 8:37 AM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: John, Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for attending the forum. I was blown away by the number of people and by all the really good questions. I had a blast. I think latex can be a good alternative to traditional finishes, and it can give you a better finish than most believe. I will get the updated presentation (Powerpoint slides) posted on my web site in the next week or so. I just got back yesterday and need to catch up on things first. Thanks again Malcolm ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Egan" < 1smilingmoon@gmail.com > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:24:53 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum I'd like to thank Malcolm Morrison for presenting a great forum at EAA Airventure on painting using latex paint. I attended the forum, and photos of Malcolm's painted projects do not do his work justice. Using wet sanding , buffing and polishing techniques Malcolm creates a very, very nice finish on latex. Thank you Malcolm. On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:30 PM, < gliderx5@comcast.net > wrote:
I just got word that I will be presenting a forum at Airventure on painting your homebuilt with latex paint, Wednesday, at 11:30. I plan to camp with my Titan Tornado in the ultralight area. If any of you are attending Airventure please stop by the forum or the camp site and say hi. I hope to be there from Sunday through Friday, weather permitting. I hope to be at Brodhead from Friday night to Sunday morning (weather permitting and with the Titan Tornado, Piet not done yet) See you there Malcolm http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Airplanes.htm http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Latex.htm " target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution " target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution ================================== >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ================================== cs.com ================================== matronics.com/contribution ===================================
________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:03:39 PM PST US From: norm Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum Some windshield washer fluid contains silicone and surfactants ,it may be best to read the msds info on the product .I have used flotrol with good results in the past. will use your system on my next project . thanks Norm -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 8/4/13, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Date: Sunday, August 4, 2013, 2:34 PM #yiv1379812791 p {margin:0;}Gardiner Here's what I would try. Wet sand what you have with 600 grit paper wrapped around a sponge. You need to sand out and "orange peel" texture left from rolling. Get a cheap Harbor Freight gravity fed HVLP spray gun. They are $15.99 on sale. Thin your paint about 20% with wind shield washer fluid and spray 2 more coats, letting each dry for a day. Sand in between coats lightly with 600 grit wet. Stay away from the pinked tape and edges. Wet sand the final coat lightly and carefully with 1000 grit, then 1200 grit, then 1500 grit. Use 3M polishing compound with a buffer to bring out the shine. You can use the polishing compound on a towel around the edges and pinked areas. It sounds like a lot of work, but it really doesn't take that long and the results are worth it (in my opinion) Good luck and keep us posted on how you're doing Malcolm From: airlion2@gmail.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 9:04:23 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum Malcolm's, I have 2 coats of rolled on latex on my Piet Now. what can I do now to make look it look like what you described? Cheers, Gardiner Mason. Sent from my iPad On Aug 4, 2013, at 8:37 AM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: John, Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for attending the forum. I was blown away by the number of people and by all the really good questions. I had a blast. I think latex can be a good alternative to traditional finishes, and it can give you a better finish than most believe. I will get the updated presentation (Powerpoint slides) posted on my web site in the next week or so. I just got back yesterday and need to catch up on things first. Thanks again Malcolm From: "John Egan" <1smilingmoon@gmail.com> To: "Pietenpol" Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:24:53 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum I'd like to thank Malcolm Morrison for presenting a great forum at EAA Airventureon painting using latex paint.I attended the forum, and photos of Malcolm'spainted projects do not do his work justice.Using wet sanding , buffing and polishing techniques Malcolm creates a very, very nice finish on latex. Thank you Malcolm. On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:30 PM, wrote: I just got word that I will be presenting a forum at Airventure on painting your homebuilt with latex paint, Wednesday, at 11:30. I plan to camp with my Titan Tornado in the ultralight area. If any of you are attending Airventure please stop by the forum or the camp site and say hi. I hope to be there from Sunday through Friday, weather permitting. I hope to be at Brodhead from Friday night to Sunday morning (weather permitting and with the Titan Tornado, Piet not done yet) See you there Malcolm http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Airplanes.htm http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Latex.htm " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========= >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========= cs.com ========= matronics.com/contribution ========= " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:12 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Varnish Application w/ Wagner Power Sprayer From: "tools" It might throw it out the tip, but it's not going to be a very servicable set up in my experience (I've used them a fair amount). They're not much better than a paint brush anyway. It' specifically addressed as not suitable for airplane finish application in the Poly Fiber manual. I do know that turbine based HVLPs do the job well, that's how I finish kitchen cabinets (I don't like lacquer). I spray unthinned spar varnish through them all the time with great results. Gotta be super anal about cleaning them if you're using two part varnishes. I don't know about cheaper Harbor Freight conversion guns. I know they work well for thinner finishes, just haven't tried them on thick stuft. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405941#405941 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:43 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. From: "tools" I think Jeff and Lana Souders own that Piet. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405948#405948 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:28 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. ...yet, I, too, think of it as Dan Yocum's, possibly because he freely gave control to me from the rear cockpit, offering me my first opportunity to pilot a Piet, after not flying for nearly 30 years! Yep, that's Dan's Piet... Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tools Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 9:19 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. I think Jeff and Lana Souders own that Piet. 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