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1. 04:24 AM - Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. (jarheadpilot82)
2. 05:12 AM - Re: Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
3. 05:21 AM - Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. (tools)
4. 05:58 AM - Re: Taxi Test 3 (Chris Rusch)
5. 06:00 AM - Re: Taxi tests have begun!! (Chris Rusch)
6. 06:23 AM - Marci's sunset flight photo (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
7. 06:45 AM - Piet aerobatics (shad bell)
8. 07:18 AM - Re: Piet aerobatics (Gary Boothe)
9. 08:35 AM - Re: Piet aerobatics (Ray Krause)
10. 08:45 AM - Re: Piet aerobatics (tools)
11. 10:03 AM - A Brief History Of N8031 (Dan Yocum)
12. 10:28 AM - Re: A Brief History Of N8031 (piperj3cubflyer)
13. 10:33 AM - Re: leather flying helmet (Gmail)
14. 12:01 PM - Brodhead Sunset Pictures (PatrickW)
15. 01:24 PM - Re: Latex Paint Forum (Ken Bickers)
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| Subject: | Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. |
Probably the more clear description would be "the Pietenpol built by Dan Yocum".
I think the Souders would agree with that statement, but not the former, as
they are the owners now.
That type of description is used with varying levels of consistency on the forum.
For instance, Mike Danford's Piet has been referred to as "Dick Navratils's
Piet" when, clearly, Dick built it, yet he no longer owns it (like Dan). Yet
other people refer to Oscar Zuniga's Piet as "Oscar's Piet" and not "Corky's Piet",
when, without a doubt, Corky built it.
It just seems the first method of description is sometimes used as a way of separating
"real builders" from "just buyers". When the reality is is that this forum
is full of both and they both bring much to the table. I think that that
is what Tools was getting at, and I agree with him.
I am sure, Gary, that you do look at it the way that you do because Dan was very
kind to you at that time. Well, Tools has been very helpful and giving to me
in my build, so I think of his airplane as "Mike's Piet, built by Dick".
And isn't that what this forum is all about? Helping each other, as well as celebrating
each other's triumphs as we build? That is what I always thought.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. |
UNCLASSIFIED
I totaly agree with the naming convention. Of course that means that mine will
be called:
"Pietenpol started by EAA chapter 35, completed by George Waterman, flown by many,
initial restoration by John Kuhfal and restoration finished by Steve D."
But I am cool with that.
Steve D
On 08/05/13, jarheadpilot82 wrote:
>
> Probably the more clear description would be "the Pietenpol built by Dan Yocum".
I think the Souders would agree with that statement, but not the former, as
they are the owners now.
>
> That type of description is used with varying levels of consistency on the forum.
For instance, Mike Danford's Piet has been referred to as "Dick Navratils's
Piet" when, clearly, Dick built it, yet he no longer owns it (like Dan). Yet
other people refer to Oscar Zuniga's Piet as "Oscar's Piet" and not "Corky's
Piet", when, without a doubt, Corky built it.
>
> It just seems the first method of description is sometimes used as a way of separating
"real builders" from "just buyers". When the reality is is that this
forum is full of both and they both bring much to the table. I think that that
is what Tools was getting at, and I agree with him.
>
> I am sure, Gary, that you do look at it the way that you do because Dan was very
kind to you at that time. Well, Tools has been very helpful and giving to
me in my build, so I think of his airplane as "Mike's Piet, built by Dick".
>
> And isn't that what this forum is all about? Helping each other, as well as celebrating
each other's triumphs as we build? That is what I always thought.
>
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> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
>
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405955#405955
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UNCLASSIFIED
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| Subject: | Re: Dan Yocum's Piet In Sport Aviation. |
Didn't Mr Heglie build it, in like 1979 or something?
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No, i wont be taking her up for the first flight, i am using our local tailwheel
instructor who is very experienced in light tailwheel airplanes as well as test
flying stuff. I am going to schedule for my A/W certificate shortly. You guys
will all be the first to hear and see how she flies!!
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NX321LR
ON THE FINAL PUSH!!
Mitsubishi Powered
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| Subject: | Re: Taxi tests have begun!! |
Thanks everybody, more videos to come....hopefully flying!!
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NX321LR
ON THE FINAL PUSH!!
Mitsubishi Powered
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| Subject: | Marci's sunset flight photo |
What an OUTSTANDING photo your wife captured Douwe of the sunset from your
Pietenpol. After all of those years you two spend watching those
sunsets up there from the ground, it must have been a super sweet experienc
e to share that view with Marci from your beautiful new Pietenpol Air Campe
r.
I only wish that you could have gone on to Oshkosh to attract the eye of th
e media and attendees at the convention to spread the word about Pietenpols
in style.
Perhaps next year with a few more new Pietenpols to join you enforce!
Mike C.
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And for my next trick the loop de loop.=0A-=0AShad=0A=0A=0A______________
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Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 6:45 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet aerobatics
And for my next trick the loop de loop.
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: Piet aerobatics |
Love it! Wish I could do that!
Ray Krause
SkyScout under construction
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 5, 2013, at 6:45 AM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
> And for my next trick the loop de loop.
>
> Shad
>
> <Shad Bells Piet at Lee Bottom 012.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: Piet aerobatics |
Me too, I mean, take pics that good.. bravo!
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| Subject: | A Brief History Of N8031 |
N8031, SN# PHM-1, the "M" stands for "Modified", is a Pietenpol Air
Camper on which construction commenced in 1968. According to the build
logs, the fuselage and tail were completed in that year, with the wings
and ailerons being signed off for cover in 1972. Construction is of
Sitka Spruce with Douglas Fir ribs and 1" thick, non-routed spars.
Completed empty weight was 660 pounds, but she put on weight over the
years, settling in at 710#. FAA signed off on completion in 1979 and 6
pilots flew her, that year. No doubt Mr. Heglie enlisted local members
of his airport or EAA chapter to help fly the hours off and,
surprisingly, Paul never logged a single hour in the aircraft during
that period.
During flight testing the aircraft was placed into a dive on 4 separate
occasions to an unknown redline number, 120mph, 125mph, and 140mph. It
was also spun at least once.
Mr. Heglie kept the plane in annual during the 80's but didn't fly it
much, indicating that it had been in storage at some point in '85. When
Paul sold it in 1998 it only had 135 hours on the airframe. The new
owner, Dennis Heiny, lengthened the motor mount by 8", repaired a gusset
in the tail section that had experienced some dry rot and painted the
plane with some left over automotive enamel from his neighbor, cut with
flo-trol. I suspect the yellow paint is the same shade used to paint
heavy construction equipment or school buses.
I had the opportunity to speak with Dennis on the phone one evening and
he said that the reason the motor was extended was that stalls in N8031
were "exciting" with the shorter motor mount. I don't doubt that claim
but I can attest that she's a sweet flyer now, and just mushes like any
Cub I've flown.
My Heiny lost his medical around 2004 and let the annual lapse. In 2008
Tres Clements purchased N8031 and proceeded to fly her 180 hours in 18
months, taking awe inspiring trips from his home base in San Luis Obispo
to far flung places such as Grand Junction, CO via the Grand Canyon,
Phoenix, AZ, and finally to Oshkosh in 2009 where he entered in the
Airventure Race as an honorary Unlimited Class contestant. He and his
co-pilot Ryan Malherbe placed 2nd in their class clocking in a time of 6
hours 45 minutes hot on the heels of a Lancair IVp which clocked in with
a winning time of 59 minutes.
On August 3rd, 2009 I became the 4th owner of N8031 and flew her a
modest 100 hours over the following 3 years, traveling to enchanting and
foreign destinations such as Hinckley, Poplar Grove, Burlington and
Brodhead. I gave dozens of rides at Brodhead and local chapter pancake
breakfasts and enjoyed the heck out of flying her hither and yon.
In late October, 2012, the reigns of N8031 passed to Jeff Souders from
outside Oklahoma City. Jeff lives on his own airstrip (lucky dog!) and
flies N8031 several times a week, putting on nearly 15 hours in the
first month of ownership. Jeff has a tendency to modify his aircraft
and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if N8031 resurfaces at Brodhead
sporting new 21" tires some year in the future.
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: A Brief History Of N8031 |
Thanks Dan for the history of N8031. I now have over 40 hours in 9 months a
nd still enjoy fly her.
That's funny on what you said about the 21 inch wheels I'm currently looks f
or a set that will fit the original cub gear if any one know of a set please
let me know.
Here's a picture I took just the other day!
Thanks
Jeff
> On Aug 5, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> N8031, SN# PHM-1, the "M" stands for "Modified", is a Pietenpol Air
> Camper on which construction commenced in 1968. According to the build
> logs, the fuselage and tail were completed in that year, with the wings
> and ailerons being signed off for cover in 1972. Construction is of
> Sitka Spruce with Douglas Fir ribs and 1" thick, non-routed spars.
> Completed empty weight was 660 pounds, but she put on weight over the
> years, settling in at 710#. FAA signed off on completion in 1979 and 6
> pilots flew her, that year. No doubt Mr. Heglie enlisted local members
> of his airport or EAA chapter to help fly the hours off and,
> surprisingly, Paul never logged a single hour in the aircraft during
> that period.
>
> During flight testing the aircraft was placed into a dive on 4 separate
> occasions to an unknown redline number, 120mph, 125mph, and 140mph. It
> was also spun at least once.
>
> Mr. Heglie kept the plane in annual during the 80's but didn't fly it
> much, indicating that it had been in storage at some point in '85. When
> Paul sold it in 1998 it only had 135 hours on the airframe. The new
> owner, Dennis Heiny, lengthened the motor mount by 8", repaired a gusset
> in the tail section that had experienced some dry rot and painted the
> plane with some left over automotive enamel from his neighbor, cut with
> flo-trol. I suspect the yellow paint is the same shade used to paint
> heavy construction equipment or school buses.
>
> I had the opportunity to speak with Dennis on the phone one evening and
> he said that the reason the motor was extended was that stalls in N8031
> were "exciting" with the shorter motor mount. I don't doubt that claim
> but I can attest that she's a sweet flyer now, and just mushes like any
> Cub I've flown.
>
> My Heiny lost his medical around 2004 and let the annual lapse. In 2008
> Tres Clements purchased N8031 and proceeded to fly her 180 hours in 18
> months, taking awe inspiring trips from his home base in San Luis Obispo
> to far flung places such as Grand Junction, CO via the Grand Canyon,
> Phoenix, AZ, and finally to Oshkosh in 2009 where he entered in the
> Airventure Race as an honorary Unlimited Class contestant. He and his
> co-pilot Ryan Malherbe placed 2nd in their class clocking in a time of 6
> hours 45 minutes hot on the heels of a Lancair IVp which clocked in with
> a winning time of 59 minutes.
>
> On August 3rd, 2009 I became the 4th owner of N8031 and flew her a
> modest 100 hours over the following 3 years, traveling to enchanting and
> foreign destinations such as Hinckley, Poplar Grove, Burlington and
> Brodhead. I gave dozens of rides at Brodhead and local chapter pancake
> breakfasts and enjoyed the heck out of flying her hither and yon.
>
> In late October, 2012, the reigns of N8031 passed to Jeff Souders from
> outside Oklahoma City. Jeff lives on his own airstrip (lucky dog!) and
> flies N8031 several times a week, putting on nearly 15 hours in the
> first month of ownership. Jeff has a tendency to modify his aircraft
> and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if N8031 resurfaces at Brodhead
> sporting new 21" tires some year in the future.
>
> Dan
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> yocum137@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: leather flying helmet |
Thanks Douwe. I bought two!
Do not archive
Greg Bacon
NX114D
On Aug 2, 2013, at 8:20 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> w
rote:
> Hey all,
>
> If you=99re in the market for a leather flying helmet, you might wan
t to ck out sportsmans guide. They have what APPEARS to be a nice WWII repl
ica of a german flying helmet in brown and black and the price is good. I b
ought one (can never have enough!) but haven=99t seen it yet so can
=99t vouch for quality. Based on the comments, sizing is small so read t
he comments carefully if you get one.
>
> http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/german-military-style-leather-aviato
r-helmet.aspx?a=961636
>
> Douwe
>
>
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| Subject: | Brodhead Sunset Pictures |
Got a few nice sunset pictures, with airplanes in them.
https://picasaweb.google.com/104939905154766012049/Brodhead#
Patrick Hoyt
N63PZ
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| Subject: | Re: Latex Paint Forum |
Malcolm,
This is great information. One quick clarification. On your slides, you
recommend using a Kobalt Latex spray gun, one of which it happens we have.
What nozzle pressure and at what setting is the fluid control knob that
you recommend, if using the Kobalt gun to spray latex?
Thanks, Ken
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM, norm <coevst@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Some windshield washer fluid contains silicone and surfactants ,it may be
> best to read the msds info on the product .I have used flotrol with good
> results in the past. will use your system on my next project . thanks Norm
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 8/4/13, gliderx5@comcast.net <gliderx5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, August 4, 2013, 2:34 PM
>
> #yiv1379812791 p
> {margin:0;}Gardiner
>
> Here's what I would try. Wet sand what you have
> with 600 grit paper wrapped around a sponge. You need
> to sand out and "orange peel" texture left from
> rolling. Get a cheap Harbor Freight gravity fed HVLP
> spray gun. They are $15.99 on sale. Thin your
> paint about 20% with wind shield washer fluid and spray 2
> more coats, letting each dry for a day. Sand in between
> coats lightly with 600 grit wet. Stay away from the
> pinked tape and edges. Wet sand the final coat lightly and
> carefully with 1000 grit, then 1200 grit, then 1500 grit.
> Use 3M polishing compound with a buffer to bring out the
> shine. You can use the polishing compound on a towel
> around the edges and pinked areas.
>
> It sounds like a lot of work, but it really doesn't take
> that long and the results are worth it (in my opinion)
>
> Good luck and keep us posted on how you're doing
> Malcolm
>
> From: airlion2@gmail.com
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 9:04:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum
>
> Malcolm's, I have 2 coats of rolled on latex on my
> Piet Now. what can I do now to make look it look like what
> you described? Cheers, Gardiner Mason.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 4, 2013, at 8:37 AM, gliderx5@comcast.net
> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for attending the
> forum. I was blown away by the number of people and by
> all the really good questions. I had a blast. I think latex
> can be a good alternative to traditional finishes, and it
> can give you a better finish than most believe. I will get
> the updated presentation (Powerpoint slides) posted on my
> web site in the next week or so. I just got back
> yesterday and need to catch up on things first.
>
> Thanks again
> Malcolm
>
> From: "John
> Egan" <1smilingmoon@gmail.com>
> To: "Pietenpol" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:24:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex Paint Forum
>
> I'd like to thank Malcolm Morrison for
> presenting a great forum at EAA Airventure on painting
> using latex paint. I attended the forum, and photos of
> Malcolm's painted projects do not do his work
> justice. Using wet sanding , buffing and
> polishing techniques Malcolm creates a very, very nice
> finish on latex. Thank you Malcolm.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013
> at 4:30 PM, <gliderx5@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> I just got word that I will be
> presenting a forum at Airventure on painting your homebuilt
> with
> latex paint, Wednesday, at 11:30. I plan to camp with my
> Titan
> Tornado in the ultralight area. If any of you are attending
> Airventure please stop by the forum or the camp site and say
> hi. I
> hope to be there from Sunday through Friday, weather
> permitting.
>
>
> I hope to be at Brodhead from
> Friday
> night to Sunday morning (weather permitting and with the
> Titan
> Tornado, Piet not done yet)
>
>
> See you there
> Malcolm
> http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Airplanes.htm
> http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Latex.htm
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