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1. 12:09 AM - Re: Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine (Clif Dawson)
2. 02:14 AM - Re: Latex PainT Update (John Kuhfahl)
3. 04:13 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol T-shirts from Brodhead 2013 (Dan Yocum)
4. 04:32 AM - Re: Latex PainT Update (womenfly2)
5. 05:01 AM - Re: Non-stick paint for T-88? (womenfly2)
6. 05:10 AM - Re: New Propeller Arrival (womenfly2)
7. 05:45 AM - Updated List: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine (John Fay)
8. 05:47 AM - Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine (John Fay)
9. 06:29 AM - Pietenpol Engine list (Keith)
10. 07:04 AM - Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine (Ralph)
11. 07:14 AM - Re: Non-stick paint for T-88? (namrednos)
12. 07:23 AM - Re: Re: New Propeller Arrival (Jack Phillips)
13. 07:46 AM - Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine (Bill Church)
14. 07:47 AM - Re: Pietenpol Engine list ()
15. 08:25 AM - Montana Piets (M. Zeke Zechini)
16. 08:31 AM - Re: Montana Piets (TOM STINEMETZE)
17. 09:04 AM - Re: New Propeller Arrival (womenfly2)
18. 09:22 AM - SAA fly-in at Wynkoop Airport, Ohio (shad bell)
19. 10:31 AM - Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine (Mark Baxter)
20. 10:47 AM - Re: SAA fly-in at Wynkoop Airport, Ohio (airlion2@gmail.com)
21. 11:32 AM - Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine (gcardinal@comcast.net)
22. 11:36 AM - Re: Updated List: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine (Dan Yocum)
23. 12:09 PM - Re: Updated List: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine (Keith)
24. 12:21 PM - Fw: Re: Updated List: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine (Keith)
25. 12:31 PM - Re: Updated List: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine (Bill Church)
26. 12:35 PM - Keith-- good post, photo came thru fine (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
27. 04:13 PM - Re: SAA fly-in at Wynkoop Airport, Ohio (shad bell)
28. 06:07 PM - NC Piet NX327BC (randy cary)
29. 08:14 PM - Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine (Billy McCaskill)
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| Subject: | Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine |
Now you know why I sent the second photo! :-)
I asked him about those things. He wasn't worried
about his own limberness. His answer about passenger
access---With a little sideways smile," That's not my seat."
One thing's for sure, he'll never have to refuse the fat
lady. :-)
One day, though, he may regret the shortness of cabane
and that solidness of wing. We do, after all, become less
limber with age.
The pics are the latest taken but it's now completed and
varnished. I'm waiting on an AS&S order of nuts and
bolts. Some work to do on the hinge itself. Then on to
the right panel.
Clif
Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is
serious. -Brendan Gill
>
> Clif: C-GHBD needs a centersection cutout or a flop. Plus maybe some
> cabane extensions.
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> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Latex PainT Update |
Very nice job--good review! Wish we could do this on certified a/c too...
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:05 PM, <gliderx5@comcast.net> wrote:
> I just updated my site with the slides and text from the Airventure latex
> painting forum. I hope you find them useful.
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> http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/Latex.htm
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> Malcolm Morrison
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John Kuhfahl, Lt Col USAF (Ret),
President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol T-shirts from Brodhead 2013 |
On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:58 PM, "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
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> What... no sweat shirts?
What? Were you cold or something?
;-)
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| Subject: | Re: Latex PainT Update |
Thank you!
WF2
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| Subject: | Re: Non-stick paint for T-88? |
Just finished up my Piper L-4 ribs using T-88. Cover the rib jig using a piece
of 3 to 4-mil plastic Polyethylene Sheeting as sold in Home Depot or Lowe's in
rolls. The T-88 will not stick to it and it is see through. Very simple and
very low cost.
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| Subject: | Re: New Propeller Arrival |
I would love to read all the test data and comparison testing of the dimples and
the rough tips along with the performance increase data.
Could you ask CloudCars propeller to share that with us?
Very interesting ~ WF2
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| Subject: | Updated List: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine |
Here is the updated list: I count 43 different engines in the
aircamper, and 2 in the Scout.
I am looking for confirmation on the 4 cyl. Dodge.
Pietenpol Engines:
Continental 50 hp
A-65
C-65
A-75
A-80
C-85
C-90
O-200
Twin 65 hp
Continental Industrial Engine
Lycoming 50 hp O-145
65 hp
O-235
GPU
Franklin 50 hp
65 hp
90 hp
Ford Model A
Model B
Flat head V-8
Escort engine
Cortina engine
Fiesta engine
Funk 200 standard
200 inverted
Wilksch Airmotive WAM-100 diesel
Warner radial 145 hp
LeBlond radial
Kinner radial
Velie radial
Rotec radial
Lambert radial
Mikron
Chevrolet 2.5L (Iron Duke)
Buick V-8
Corvair
Toyota (I don't remember which one, but there was a pic a few months ago of
two Piets in New Zealand who were
powered by Toyotas)
Toyota 2C Turbo Diesel
Subaru
Turbo Subaru
Geo/Suzuki 2300 cc
Mercedes Diesel
Mitsubishi (soon to be)
Used on Pietenpol Scout
Model T
Chevrolet Vega
(Was there a successful Volkswagen? Was a Vega engine ever used on
an aircamper?)
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| Subject: | Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine |
A couple of years ago there was a YouTube video of a Russian built and
flying Piet. I wonder what engine they used in that plane.
John Fay
in Peoria
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Engine list |
Hi all,
Here in the UK I am building a long fuselage Piet with a BMW K100
motorcycle engine.
Regards Keith Hodge
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| Subject: | Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine |
Reading about all the various engines in Pietenpols reminded me of a
conversation in a lumber yard in Lake Elmo, MN, in the late 1980s. I
was buying marine plywood and hardwood for an engine mount in a
Pietenpol and a couple guys in the lumberyard were familiar with the
Pietenpol. They new a guy in the Minneapolis-St Paul area who had a
Pietenpol with a modified inverted Ford Falcon six cylinder engine.
Perhaps someone from the Minneapolis-St Paul area could confirm if this
machine actually existed.
Ralph in SD
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| Subject: | Re: Non-stick paint for T-88? |
This was an idea that I heard here, I used RC plans clear protector. Buy it at
any hobby store or on-line stores like Tower Hobby. I stapled it over the rib
plans on a backed plywood flat board.
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: New Propeller Arrival |
Wooden ribs on an L-4?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of womenfly2
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Propeller Arrival
I would love to read all the test data and comparison testing of the dimples
and the rough tips along with the performance increase data.
Could you ask CloudCars propeller to share that with us?
Very interesting ~ WF2
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| Subject: | Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine |
Here's one more for the list:
Rotax 912S
http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/#/g-byft/4546880083
BC
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Engine list |
now thats KOOL
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:30 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Engine list
Hi all,
Here in the UK I am building a long fuselage Piet with a BMW K100
motorcycle engine.
Regards Keith Hodge
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No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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On vacation near Bozeman, MT.....any Piets out here?
Zeke
GN-1 w/C-85,
built by Bob Odegaard
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Montana Piets |
There is a Model A Piet hanging in a museum near the college. It has been a while
since I was out there so I don't much more in the way of details. As I recall
it was pretty dusty.
Stinemetze
McPherson, KS.
N328X
>>> "M. Zeke Zechini" <marcus.zechini@gmail.com> 8/13/2013 10:24 AM >>>
On vacation near Bozeman, MT.....any Piets out here?
Zeke
GN-1 w/C-85,
built by Bob Odegaard
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| Subject: | Re: New Propeller Arrival |
jack(at)bedfordlandings.c wrote:
> Wooden ribs on an L-4?
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
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... had the wood :)
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| Subject: | SAA fly-in at Wynkoop Airport, Ohio |
-=0A--- Is anyone planning on going to the SAA fly-in at Wynkoop, i
n Mount Vernon OH this weekend? It is on for Friday and Saturday I believe.
- I plan on flying over both days, hope to see some of you there.=0A-
=0AShad
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| Subject: | Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine |
There was a modified Pietenpol built here in Oregon that was powered by a Salmson
radial engine. It flew successfully for a number of years. It was built
by Russ Stewart and was originally licensed as an Oregon homebuilt and carried
one of the metal Oregon aircraft license plates. In 1948, it was registered
by the CAA as an experimental. It is believed that this was the first aircraft
in the country registered in the experimental category. If anyone has any
information regarding this plane, I would appreciate hearing from you.
Mark Baxter
Corvallis, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: SAA fly-in at Wynkoop Airport, Ohio |
Hi shad. What size golf art tires are you using? what weight will they carry
and is there enough rubber left if I shaved the nubs off? vintage aircraft h
ad smoothe tires I think for streamlining . Cheers gardiner
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 13, 2013, at 12:21 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Is anyone planning on going to the SAA fly-in at Wynkoop, in Mount Ver
non OH this weekend? It is on for Friday and Saturday I believe. I plan on f
lying over both days, hope to see some of you there.
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> Shad
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| Subject: | Re: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine |
This is the first I heard of this. Nothing would surprise me, though.
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph" <ralphhsd@itctel.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:04:10 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine
Reading about all the various engines in Pietenpols reminded me of a conver
sation in a lumber yard in Lake Elmo, MN, in the late 1980s.=C2- I was bu
ying marine plywood and hardwood for an engine mount in a Pietenpol and a c
ouple guys in the lumberyard were familiar with the Pietenpol.=C2- They n
ew a guy in the Minneapolis-St Paul area who had a Pietenpol with a modifie
d inverted Ford Falcon six cylinder engine.=C2- Perhaps someone from the
Minneapolis-St Paul area could confirm if this machine actually existed.
=C2-
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| Subject: | Re: Updated List: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine |
On 08/13/2013 07:45 AM, John Fay wrote:
>
> Here is the updated list: I count 43 different engines in the
> aircamper, and 2 in the Scout.
>
> I am looking for confirmation on the 4 cyl. Dodge.
>
>
> Pietenpol Engines:
>
> Continental 50 hp
> A-65
> C-65
What's a C-65? I know there's a C-75, but I don't *think* there's a C-65.
> A-75
> A-80
> C-85
> C-90
> O-200
> Twin 65 hp
...
Some French guys put a motorcycle engine on a Piet... Wish I could find
that link...
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| Subject: | Re: Updated List: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine |
The Welsh have put a BMW K100 into one as well (see previous post).
By the way I am a newbe to posting so may not be doing this correctly.
On 13/08/2013 7:36 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:
>
>
> On 08/13/2013 07:45 AM, John Fay wrote:
>>
>> Here is the updated list: I count 43 different engines in the
>> aircamper, and 2 in the Scout.
>>
>> I am looking for confirmation on the 4 cyl. Dodge.
>>
>>
>> Pietenpol Engines:
>>
>> Continental 50 hp
>> A-65
>> C-65
> What's a C-65? I know there's a C-75, but I don't *think* there's a C-65.
>
>> A-75
>> A-80
>> C-85
>> C-90
>> O-200
>> Twin 65 hp
> ...
>
> Some French guys put a motorcycle engine on a Piet... Wish I could find
> that link...
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Updated List: How many engines? for CONTACT |
Magazine
Hello,
Here in Wales in the UK I am installing a BMW K100 engine in a Pietenpol.
90HP, 4 Cylinder, water cooled, Rotax "C" 3 to 1 gearbox.
Picture attached.
P.S. I a newbe to posting and am not sure if I am replying to the
original post correctly?
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| Subject: | Re: Updated List: How many engines? for CONTACT Magazine |
Well, this one is British, not French, but it does have a BMW motorcycle engine
on the (loooong) nose. Then again, it hasn't flown yet - so it doesn't count...
yet.
http://on.fb.me/18sB2MC
Dan wrote:
> Some French guys put a motorcycle engine on a Piet... Wish I could find
> that link...
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| Subject: | Keith-- good post, photo came thru fine |
Very cool Keith! Your message came in fine.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 3:24 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: Pietenpol-List: Updated List: How many engines? for CONTA
CT Magazine
Hello,
Here in Wales in the UK I am installing a BMW K100 engine in a Pietenpol.
90HP, 4 Cylinder, water cooled, Rotax "C" 3 to 1 gearbox.
Picture attached.
P.S. I a newbe to posting and am not sure if I am replying to the original
post correctly?
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| Subject: | Re: SAA fly-in at Wynkoop Airport, Ohio |
They are 8.00x6 and made by Carlisle, And are called Turf Glide tires, not
sure about the weight capacity.- shaving them down would not leave much t
read life.=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: "airlion2@gma
il.com" <airlion2@gmail.com>=0ATo: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpo
l-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 1:46 PM=0ASubject:
Re: Pietenpol-List: SAA fly-in at Wynkoop Airport, Ohio=0A =0A=0A=0AHi sha
d. What size golf art tires are you using? what weight will they carry and
is there enough rubber left if I shaved the nubs off? vintage aircraft had
smoothe tires I think for streamlining . Cheers gardiner=0A=0ASent from my
iPad=0A=0AOn Aug 13, 2013, at 12:21 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> w
rote:=0A=0A=0A=0A>=0A>--- Is anyone planning on going to the SAA fly-
in at Wynkoop, in Mount Vernon OH this weekend? It is on for Friday and Sat
urday I believe.- I plan on flying over both days, hope to see some of yo
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I read in Barnestormers that the above Pietenpol [GN-1] is for sale and loc
ated at Shiloh Airport in Rockingham County=2C NC. Does anyone know anythin
g about it? It is white with red trim and a Florida decal on the tail. It h
as an 85hp Cont. and a wind generator mounted on the left wing strut.
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I think there was also a Sky Scout a few years ago that had a 4 cylinder inline
Dodge engine, perhaps a 2.2l.
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Billy McCaskill
Baker, LA
tail section almost done, starting on ribs soon
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