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1. 05:56 AM - So. California Air Races (AircamperN11MS)
2. 06:19 AM - Re: Control system bearings (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
3. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: NX626E (Ray Krause)
4. 08:16 AM - Re: So. California Air Races (Ray Krause)
5. 08:38 AM - Re: So. California Air Races (AircamperN11MS)
6. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: So. California Air Races (Ray Krause)
7. 11:15 AM - Selling my GN-1 Aircamper (ldmill)
8. 11:18 AM - Well, I goofed up. How much trouble am I in? (Kyle85)
9. 11:25 AM - Re: Well, I goofed up. How much trouble am I in? (taildrags)
10. 02:23 PM - Re: Well, I goofed up. How much trouble am I in? (tools)
11. 04:08 PM - steel " jenny style" straight axle gear (nightmare)
12. 07:24 PM - Re: So. California Air Races (GNflyer)
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Subject: | So. California Air Races |
Hi Pieters,
Since there was some talk last week of air racing a Piet I thought I would give
Vintage air racing a try myself. The attached pic is the winners sitting on
the podium. Yes the Blue and yellow planes came in second and third. Yes this
past Saturday was a great day.
If you guys should ever find your way to Flabob airport in Southern CA, don't miss
looking at the wonderful air racers. They are amazing.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Control system bearings |
Skip, thanks.. Had I done the math I'd have seen that.. Apparently I did do the
math prior to placing my order cause my invoice shows .058 material, but ASS
sent me .049. Didn't notice until now. Better check everything.
Tom B.
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On Aug 25, 2013, at 4:49 PM, "skipgadd@earthlink.net" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
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> .058 is the magic size. The ID of any size will fit the OD of the next
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>> From: TOM MICHELLE BRANT <tmbrant@msn.com>
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: 8/25/2013 4:21:05 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Control system bearings
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>> What are people using for bearings in the control system. For the torque
> tube I thought some 1" .049 tube would work but seems a bit loose. Could
> machine something down from a thicker tube or look into a buyout part.
> Curious what others are using.
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>> Tom B.
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Thanks, Bill. I thought that if you were in CA, I might fire up the Waiex and visit
you, but two States away is a bit much for this local flyer this summer.
I would sure love to see your Piet , especially those run-up brakes!
Ray Krause
SkyScout in progress.
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On Aug 25, 2013, at 10:22 PM, "BYD" <billsayre@ymail.com> wrote:
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> Indeed, I live in Gig Harbor across the narrows from Tacoma, WA and Oscar, I
don't mean to talk you out of attending a great event - I only meant that it is
not my cup of tea. You could easily attend it and visit your friends on the
same trip if you're inclined.
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Subject: | Re: So. California Air Races |
We need details!
Ray Krause
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On Aug 26, 2013, at 5:56 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
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> Hi Pieters,
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> Since there was some talk last week of air racing a Piet I thought I would give
Vintage air racing a try myself. The attached pic is the winners sitting
on the podium. Yes the Blue and yellow planes came in second and third. Yes
this past Saturday was a great day.
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> If you guys should ever find your way to Flabob airport in Southern CA, don't
miss looking at the wonderful air racers. They are amazing.
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> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: So. California Air Races |
Well Ray,
Since you asked. It was a tough race. I won it with good strategy. They never
saw it coming. It was a standing start race, around the pylons once then landing
to a full stop. The piet had the advantage from the start. I broke ground
in less than 100 feet and made the first turn before they were wheels up.
I got them at the second turn, they just got past me at the third turn and then
the big surprise was during landing when I was able to get on the ground and
stopped in the first few hundred feet of the runway. Those poor guys with all
their speed had to roll all the way to the end of the runway. I win!!!
It was a great day for the Piet community. They will probably never admit to
the loss, so please don't embarrass them by asking. I was there. you gotta believe
me.
The other story would be that I was just hanging out with some friends and they
were there too.
We can all dream,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: So. California Air Races |
Fantastic! They may change the rules next year. Maybe that would be a good kind
of "race" to have at Broadhead? But since I have never been there, how would
I know?
Thanks,
Ryan Krause
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On Aug 26, 2013, at 8:36 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
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> Well Ray,
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> Since you asked. It was a tough race. I won it with good strategy. They never
saw it coming. It was a standing start race, around the pylons once then
landing to a full stop. The piet had the advantage from the start. I broke ground
in less than 100 feet and made the first turn before they were wheels up.
I got them at the second turn, they just got past me at the third turn and
then the big surprise was during landing when I was able to get on the ground
and stopped in the first few hundred feet of the runway. Those poor guys with
all their speed had to roll all the way to the end of the runway. I win!!!
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> It was a great day for the Piet community. They will probably never admit to
the loss, so please don't embarrass them by asking. I was there. you gotta
believe me.
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> The other story would be that I was just hanging out with some friends and they
were there too.
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> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Selling my GN-1 Aircamper |
Guys - I hate to do it, but it's time to let the Aircamper go. I'm starting to
build a Sky Scout and just finished my Sonex/Waiex - don't have time to fly two
planes AND build... so the Aircamper needs to go. Some of you may remember
it up at Brodhead this year - N30PP, blue with yellow wing. She's running like
a top, 910 hours on the Cont. A75. Less than 200 on a complete overhaul including
the McCauley metal prop, Marvel Schebler carb and new Slick mags (rebuilt
cylinder right after the Brodhead fly-in). New tires and tubes, bungees and
covers, right wheel cylinder and both exhaust stacks. 14 gallon header tank and
4 gallon center section tank, two doors (which I absolutely LOVE). Comes with
a Garmin GPS Pilot III and an intercom for passenger comms. The annual is good
till May of 2014. Price is $10500 and is posted on Barnstormers as of today.
Based in Marshalltown Iowa (KMIW)
Lorin Miller
email: lorin.miller@emerson.com
Cell: 641-485-0840
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Lorin Miller
Waiex N81YX
GN-1 N30PP
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Subject: | Well, I goofed up. How much trouble am I in? |
Decided to go with piano hinge on my rudder. I used 3 6 barrel sections I bonded
them in with epoxy and used stainless steel Roll pins that are also bonded
in to keep things nice and flush. Well, when I put it all together my thought
was to keep a smaller gap between the rudder and vertical fin. The problem is
the rudder has 12" of travel on the trailing edge in each direction giving me
a total of 24" total travel. This is because the "main beams" of each surface
come in contact with each other. To me the elevator cut out is 30" and that should
be the rudder travel. So can I leave it? Can I bevel the main beam any? Or
am I stuck with destroying my hard work trying to readjust the hinges. Thanks
Kyle
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Airspeed, altitude or brains: Two are always needed to successfully complete the
flight.
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Subject: | Re: Well, I goofed up. How much trouble am I in? |
Kyle; I just remade the rudder bar stops on my airplane. I wanted to get all the
rudder throw that I could, so my rudder pretty much goes from elevator edge
to elevator edge, just short of actually touching control surfaces. My airplane
runs out of rudder in a strong x-wind or slip.
I don't have my plans here to be able to check the dimension between elevators,
but I would sure hate to give up 3" of rudder travel on each side if that's what
you're saying it amounts to at the trailing edge of the rudder.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: Well, I goofed up. How much trouble am I in? |
You can bevel the edges to gain more travel. Based on your description I'm not
sure how much linear travel you need to gain, but a little beveling gains quite
a bit. Be sure and bevel each piece (the stab and the rudder) to share the
load so to speak.
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Subject: | steel " jenny style" straight axle gear |
Has anyone built the jenny style gear using steel instead of the 2 1/2 x 1 inch
aerodynamic spruce? If so, what size tubing has been used? Ive also got the split
axle plans, but seems like that 1 3/8 14 gauge tubing may be a little overkill
for the jenny style gear since the brunt of the work is probably absorbed
by the bungees.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: So. California Air Races |
that is a great picture. could you send me an email with it I might keep? I was
not able to copy and paste it. I guess it's too large. Raymond
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