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1. 05:01 AM - Re: Priceless (pineymb)
2. 07:50 AM - stall speed (TriScout)
3. 08:32 AM - Re: stall speed (Ben Charvet)
4. 08:36 AM - Re: stall speed (steve@wotelectronics.com)
5. 10:34 AM - Re: stall speed (taildrags)
6. 10:45 AM - Re: Re: stall speed (Marcus Zechini)
7. 11:10 AM - just right--- 85 years running (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
8. 12:22 PM - Re: just right--- 85 years running (Rick Holland)
9. 12:24 PM - Re: Re: excuse the intrusion... (Rick Holland)
10. 12:50 PM - Re: just right--- 85 years running (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
11. 01:15 PM - Re: just right--- 85 years running (taildrags)
12. 01:42 PM - Re: Re: just right--- 85 years running (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
13. 01:45 PM - Re: just right--- 85 years running (Rick Holland)
14. 02:01 PM - Re: just right--- 85 years running (Ken Bickers)
15. 03:33 PM - Re: excuse the intrusion... (Pieti Lowell)
16. 03:34 PM - Re: excuse the intrusion... (Pieti Lowell)
17. 04:17 PM - Re: Re: just right--- 85 years running (airlion2@gmail.com)
18. 04:50 PM - Re: just right--- 85 years running (Mario Giacummo)
19. 06:19 PM - Re: stall speed (GNflyer)
20. 07:44 PM - Ford motors in Australia? (Minerjoe)
21. 08:03 PM - Re: just right--- 85 years running (Rick Holland)
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Yep that's the place! - also get to see sunshine more than 20 days of the year
if you know what I'm sayin.
cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca wrote:
> Isn't that where you can watch your dog run away for
> three days? :-)
> Clif
>
>
> > Evening flight on the outskirts of Winnipeg.
> > 8:00PM and still 32deg C out.
> >
> > Gotta love it!!!
> >
> > --------
> > Adrian M
> > Winnipeg, MB
> > Canada
> >
> >
>
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Adrian M
Winnipeg, MB
Canada
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Hi Folks..
My GN-1 stalls around 43-45mph w/just me in it. 50mph at gross wt. I did the box
pattern w/gps at stall and cruise, checking accuracy of my a/s indicator and
I've determined that it is very accurate. GN-1 spec's when googled, show a 35mph
stall for a GN-1. The gps readings average 2-3 mph faster than indicated,
but I figure the speeds will true out a few mph higher than the indicator at 2-3000'.
Could this be a rigging issue? Perhaps the trailing edge of wings could
be lowered slightly? What are you folks indicating at the stall break?
In anycase, I'm ok w/it as is (accustomed to it). I've been flying it a couple
of yrs now. I put a tape marker at 1.3x stall so as not to get below it while
on approach. It handles gusty conditions very well...about like a Pitts.
Other numbers (indicated) as follows:
Full Throttle cruise 83-85mph
Cruise 2100rpm 73-75mph
A65-8/W72CK-42
--------
L.Metzel
KLNC
A65-8
N2308C
AN Hardware
Airframe 712TT
W72CK-42 Sensenich
Standard Factory GN-1
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I did a few stalls this morning, and my airspeed indicator drops to zero
before it breaks with the power on, stalls around 32 power off.
700 lb empty weight, with just me (175 lbs) and about 8 gallons of fuel.
Ben Charvet
On 8/29/2013 10:50 AM, TriScout wrote:
>
> Hi Folks..
>
> My GN-1 stalls around 43-45mph w/just me in it. 50mph at gross wt. I did the
box pattern w/gps at stall and cruise, checking accuracy of my a/s indicator and
I've determined that it is very accurate. GN-1 spec's when googled, show a
35mph stall for a GN-1. The gps readings average 2-3 mph faster than indicated,
but I figure the speeds will true out a few mph higher than the indicator at
2-3000'. Could this be a rigging issue? Perhaps the trailing edge of wings could
be lowered slightly? What are you folks indicating at the stall break?
>
> In anycase, I'm ok w/it as is (accustomed to it). I've been flying it a couple
of yrs now. I put a tape marker at 1.3x stall so as not to get below it while
on approach. It handles gusty conditions very well...about like a Pitts.
>
> Other numbers (indicated) as follows:
> Full Throttle cruise 83-85mph
> Cruise 2100rpm 73-75mph
>
> A65-8/W72CK-42
>
> --------
> L.Metzel
> KLNC
> A65-8
> N2308C
> AN Hardware
> Airframe 712TT
> W72CK-42 Sensenich
> Standard Factory GN-1
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407702#407702
>
>
--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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My GN-1 never breaks into a stall, it just mushes, with good aileron
control and a high sink rate. If I got really aggressive and pulled the
stick back sharply I might be able to get it to break, but the nose gets
uncomfortably high so I don't do that. And this is a coming from a guy
who likes aerobatics and doesn't mind pushing it. Power-on stalls
similarly get the nose very, very high, without breaking into a stall.
If it was an aerobatic plane and I had a parachute I'd get more
aggressive with it.
I've got around 400+hrs in it, so enough time to know it well.
Similarly, it handles very gusty conditions very well. I've been known
to be the only guy to show up in an airplane at fly-ins even when the
wind is 25G35kts or so. As long as it is down the runway it isn't bad,
and in some ways is easier because I can fly with airspeed of 50mph at
touchdown for extra control effectiveness, but only 15mph or so of
groundspeed. In those conditions it hardly has enough energy to ground
loop, particularly with the wind help keeping it straight once on the
ground. And with 15mph groundspeed, your runway can be about
anywhere...I can comfortably land it with a 300' "runway".
Taxiing can be the problem more than landing in those conditions. In
Oklahoma in the spring, if you don't fly in gusty conditions of 30kts or
so, odds are you just don't fly for a few months, which I find
unacceptable. :)
Engine is an A-75.
Steve Ruse
N6383J
Norman, OK
On 2013-08-29 09:50, TriScout wrote:
> <apfelcyber@yahoo.com>
>
> Hi Folks..
>
> My GN-1 stalls around 43-45mph w/just me in it. 50mph at gross wt. I
> did the box pattern w/gps at stall and cruise, checking accuracy of
> my
> a/s indicator and I've determined that it is very accurate. GN-1
> spec's when googled, show a 35mph stall for a GN-1. The gps readings
> average 2-3 mph faster than indicated, but I figure the speeds will
> true out a few mph higher than the indicator at 2-3000'. Could this
> be
> a rigging issue? Perhaps the trailing edge of wings could be lowered
> slightly? What are you folks indicating at the stall break?
>
> In anycase, I'm ok w/it as is (accustomed to it). I've been flying it
> a couple of yrs now. I put a tape marker at 1.3x stall so as not to
> get below it while on approach. It handles gusty conditions very
> well...about like a Pitts.
>
> Other numbers (indicated) as follows:
> Full Throttle cruise 83-85mph
> Cruise 2100rpm 73-75mph
>
> A65-8/W72CK-42
>
> --------
> L.Metzel
> KLNC
> A65-8
> N2308C
> AN Hardware
> Airframe 712TT
> W72CK-42 Sensenich
> Standard Factory GN-1
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407702#407702
>
>
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Since my airplane is not a GN-1, I'll withhold comment. However, my friend Raymond
Hanover flies his Corvair GN-1 in windy and gusty conditions in the Texas
panhandle. Perhaps he'll weigh in (although he is currently out of town on travel
with family).
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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I have GN-1 with clipped Cub wings and C-85.
I need to get stall speed. Have been slacking. When I carry GPS along, it
seems to read lower than airspeed indicator (quite sure no wind). I find
that strange...kinks & other blockage would "slow" ram air, right? Have A/S
ind in front, too...differs, as well.
On Aug 29, 2013 1:37 PM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Since my airplane is not a GN-1, I'll withhold comment. However, my
> friend Raymond Hanover flies his Corvair GN-1 in windy and gusty conditions
> in the Texas panhandle. Perhaps he'll weigh in (although he is currently
> out of town on travel with family).
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407710#407710
>
>
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| Subject: | just right--- 85 years running |
Oscar,
You're so right in all the positive things said about Pietenpols over the y
ears. Your post made me think of how enjoyable the Pietenol is to fly and
what an honest and good
flying airplane it is. Even when I take my flight review in a Cub or get
to fly another taildragger I think about how I like the Pietenpol better.
Those other airplanes are wonderful
too, no doubt but I am always impressed by how nicely this little thing fli
es, lands, stalls, turns, and handles. On a smooth evening before sunset
or at sunrise when the winds
are calm it just is like silky smooth and fingertip control. Bernard (or B
ernie for those of you who don't like people calling him Bernie:) knew what
he was doing!
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: just right--- 85 years running |
Great pictures Mikey, I saved them into my desktop background folder. Will
help me get even more excited about my first flight test next month.
rick h
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
> Oscar,
>
> You're so right in all the positive things said about Pietenpols over the
> years. Your post made me think of how enjoyable the Pietenol is to fly
> and what an honest and good
> flying airplane it is. Even when I take my flight review in a Cub or get
> to fly another taildragger I think about how I like the Pietenpol better.
> Those other airplanes are wonderful
> too, no doubt but I am always impressed by how nicely this little thing
> flies, lands, stalls, turns, and handles. On a smooth evening before
> sunset or at sunrise when the winds
> are calm it just is like silky smooth and fingertip control. Bernard (or
> Bernie for those of you who don't like people calling him Bernie:) knew
> what he was doing!
>
> Mike C.
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: excuse the intrusion... |
And especially amazing given that most all Pietenpols are built differently
from scratch and most still fly this well.
rick h
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:45 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Isn't it satisfying every time you hear another thing about the Piet that
> is "just right", or at least not nasty? It's no wonder it's been around
> for so long in almost exactly the same form as it was 85 years ago! There
> are only a few machines of equal complexity and duty that are still around
> in their same form after almost a century. The crowbar and ball-peen
> hammer come to mind ;o)
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407682#407682
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | just right--- 85 years running |
Awesome Rick! I'm so happy for you after these years of toiling and build
ing that you're getting THIS close to
flying!
What kind of field are you at, paved, turf, gravel? Long runway, good app
roaches? That Corvair should get you
out of just about anywhere.
Will you brush up in anything like a Cub or such? Looking forward to hea
ring updates and how you like flying her.
She'll be a fun, fun airplane!
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: just right--- 85 years running
Great pictures Mikey, I saved them into my desktop background folder. Will
help me get even more excited about my first flight test next month.
rick h
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partne
rs, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov<mailto:michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>> wrote:
Oscar,
You're so right in all the positive things said about Pietenpols over the y
ears. Your post made me think of how enjoyable the Pietenol is to fly and
what an honest and good
flying airplane it is. Even when I take my flight review in a Cub or get
to fly another taildragger I think about how I like the Pietenpol better.
Those other airplanes are wonderful
too, no doubt but I am always impressed by how nicely this little thing fli
es, lands, stalls, turns, and handles. On a smooth evening before sunset
or at sunrise when the winds
are calm it just is like silky smooth and fingertip control. Bernard (or B
ernie for those of you who don't like people calling him Bernie:) knew what
he was doing!
Mike C.
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[cid:image004.jpg@01CEA4CF.5963EEB0]
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: just right--- 85 years running |
Great pictures, Mikee. There is an optical illusion in one of them (the 2nd one),
where it appears that your rudder horn is canted. There is a later picture
that shows the real geometry (perfectly square). I also note from one of your
pictures that you have grommets in the top cowling where the aileron control
cables and X-braces go through it. I guess I'll have to get some grommets for
my airplane. Dang "Lindy" trophy winners... always making the rest of us look
like chopped liver.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: just right--- 85 years running |
Ahaha.....Thanks Oscar. I overheard one of the judges saying "....those g
rommets sold me...." :) I think that distortion was probably from the el-
cheapo camera lens I have on my cell
phone. The other photos were taken with a decent camera.
As I looked thru a few of my other photos I was reminded of how beautiful t
he Lake Erie shoreline and islands can be.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: just right--- 85 years running |
Mike
Will be flying out of Meadow Lake airport East of Colorado Springs.
http://www.meadowlakeairport.com/
Has a 6000 x 60 ft. paved runway and a shorter dirt/grass runway. There is
an instructor here with a Cessna 140 that does instruction and another with
a Citabria. Both taildraggers, the Citabria has a stick and is tandem but
has 160 HP so may not be very Piet-like, the 140 has an 85 so may feel more
Piet-like power wise even though it is side by side.
Bought a small video camera (4"x2"x3") that I am thinking of putting on the
top of the tail to video the first flights.
Rick
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
> Awesome Rick! I=92m so happy for you after these years of toiling and
> building that you=92re getting THIS close to****
>
> flying! ****
>
> ** **
>
> What kind of field are you at, paved, turf, gravel? Long runway, good
> approaches? That Corvair should get you ****
>
> out of just about anywhere. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Will you brush up in anything like a Cub or such? Looking forward to
> hearing updates and how you like flying her. ****
>
> She=92ll be a fun, fun airplane!****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Holland
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:22 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: just right--- 85 years running****
>
> ** **
>
> Great pictures Mikey, I saved them into my desktop background folder. Wil
l
> help me get even more excited about my first flight test next month.****
>
> ** **
>
> rick h****
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
> Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:****
>
> Oscar, ****
>
> ****
>
> You're so right in all the positive things said about Pietenpols over the
> years. Your post made me think of how enjoyable the Pietenol is to fly
> and what an honest and good****
>
> flying airplane it is. Even when I take my flight review in a Cub or ge
t
> to fly another taildragger I think about how I like the Pietenpol better.
> Those other airplanes are wonderful****
>
> too, no doubt but I am always impressed by how nicely this little thing
> flies, lands, stalls, turns, and handles. On a smooth evening before
> sunset or at sunrise when the winds****
>
> are calm it just is like silky smooth and fingertip control. Bernard (or
> Bernie for those of you who don't like people calling him Bernie:) knew
> what he was doing!****
>
> ****
>
> Mike C.****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
> NX6819Z
>
> ****
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: just right--- 85 years running |
KFLY's 6000 foot runway sounds long. But for grins, I just called the ATIS
at Colorado Springs. At the moment, density altitude is 9000 feet. That
Corvair is going to be earning its keep.
Can't wait to see it fly.
Cheers, Ken
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike
>
> Will be flying out of Meadow Lake airport East of Colorado Springs.
>
> http://www.meadowlakeairport.com/
>
> Has a 6000 x 60 ft. paved runway and a shorter dirt/grass runway. There i
s
> an instructor here with a Cessna 140 that does instruction and another wi
th
> a Citabria. Both taildraggers, the Citabria has a stick and is tandem but
> has 160 HP so may not be very Piet-like, the 140 has an 85 so may feel mo
re
> Piet-like power wise even though it is side by side.
>
> Bought a small video camera (4"x2"x3") that I am thinking of putting on
> the top of the tail to video the first flights.
>
> Rick
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
> Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Awesome Rick! I=92m so happy for you after these years of toiling and
>> building that you=92re getting THIS close to****
>>
>> flying! ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> What kind of field are you at, paved, turf, gravel? Long runway, good
>> approaches? That Corvair should get you ****
>>
>> out of just about anywhere. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Will you brush up in anything like a Cub or such? Looking forward to
>> hearing updates and how you like flying her. ****
>>
>> She=92ll be a fun, fun airplane!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
>> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Holland
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:22 PM
>> *To:* pietenpol-list
>> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: just right--- 85 years running****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Great pictures Mikey, I saved them into my desktop background folder.
>> Will help me get even more excited about my first flight test next month
.
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> rick h****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
>> Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:****
>>
>> Oscar, ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> You're so right in all the positive things said about Pietenpols over th
e
>> years. Your post made me think of how enjoyable the Pietenol is to fly
>> and what an honest and good****
>>
>> flying airplane it is. Even when I take my flight review in a Cub or
>> get to fly another taildragger I think about how I like the Pietenpol
>> better. Those other airplanes are wonderful****
>>
>> too, no doubt but I am always impressed by how nicely this little thing
>> flies, lands, stalls, turns, and handles. On a smooth evening before
>> sunset or at sunrise when the winds****
>>
>> are calm it just is like silky smooth and fingertip control. Bernard (o
r
>> Bernie for those of you who don't like people calling him Bernie:) knew
>> what he was doing!****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Mike C.****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
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>>
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>> ** **
>>
>> --
>> Rick Holland
>> Castle Rock, Colorado
>> NX6819Z
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> Castle Rock, Colorado
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With a few hours flying Pietenpols there comes a time in my life that the stick
and rudders was not responsive regardless where you put them to the max, 30 feet
forward and 100 feet sliding to the starboard while at taxi speed, is very
exciting, on hard surface. That is cross-wind.!
Pieti Lowell
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With a few hours flying Pietenpols there comes a time in my life that the stick
and rudders was not responsive regardless where you put them to the max, 30 feet
forward and 100 feet sliding to the starboard while at taxi speed, is very
exciting, on hard surface. That is cross-wind.!
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: just right--- 85 years running |
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:15 PM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Great pictures, Mikee. There is an optical illusion in one of them (the 2nd
one), where it appears that your rudder horn is canted. There is a later picture
that shows the real geometry (perfectly square). I also note from one of
your pictures that you have grommets in the top cowling where the aileron control
cables and X-braces go through it. I guess I'll have to get some grommets
for my airplane. Dang "Lindy" trophy winners... always making the rest of us
look like chopped liver.
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> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: just right--- 85 years running |
Uhauuu Mike, what pictures, and what an airplane!!!! it looks.. perfect.
Each time anyone of you post a photo of your Piets i said "uhauuu, what a
job you did". I usually saw the hart put in the .........labor?... (trabajo
en espa=F1ol). It's wonderfull, I.. envy.. not envy.. admire? .. admire too
.
This is why you are where you are, you push, and not only push, you enjoy
pushing, doing, teaking evrything a little bit forward.. 'que lo pario,
los admiro' (impossible to translate, do not try).
Taking the opportunity, Oscar, incredible this Mexican Piet, it's late, I
have to cook, work a little more; tomorrow talk to you.
Regards.
PD: Do you know something?.. I am not in the end of the job, but it looks
like, and now.. each day pass I am a little bit more afraid about what I
did.. It is normal? some one of you feel that?...
Mario Giacummo
2013/8/29 Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC] <
michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
> Oscar,
>
> You're so right in all the positive things said about Pietenpols over the
> years. Your post made me think of how enjoyable the Pietenol is to fly
> and what an honest and good
> flying airplane it is. Even when I take my flight review in a Cub or ge
t
> to fly another taildragger I think about how I like the Pietenpol better.
> Those other airplanes are wonderful
> too, no doubt but I am always impressed by how nicely this little thing
> flies, lands, stalls, turns, and handles. On a smooth evening before
> sunset or at sunrise when the winds
> are calm it just is like silky smooth and fingertip control. Bernard (or
> Bernie for those of you who don't like people calling him Bernie:) knew
> what he was doing!
>
> Mike C.
>
>
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Well so far I have been fortunate to have fairly light winds on my early flights
but I had my idle set up high -around 1000 RPM to be more sure it wouldn't quit
when the power was pulled and keep the temps more stable early on.. worked
Ok as long as I was taxi-ing n dirt but played heck rolling downwind on the paved
stuff! I played with power off stalls and it pretty much just mushes along
solo as long as you use your feet to keep the wing level, if you just use aileron
I expect you will eventually go on an interesting journey when one wing
does break away. I'm not ready for spin testing yet. I cannot comment on full
gross stalls since I'm still in phase and haven't got there yet.power on she
will hang there hard. just gotta keep those feet busy.your mileage will surely
vary. I have been early slip testing and it does fine but will enter a sink and
you better have altitude or power available soon.Raymond
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| Subject: | Ford motors in Australia? |
Has anyone got model A / B motors or bits that are willing to sell in Australia?/[Question]
Cheers
Joe :)
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| Subject: | Re: just right--- 85 years running |
Yes Ken, one Piet spec you almost never hear people talk about is service
ceiling, what is the highest anyone with a Corvair Piet gone? Sure hope
mine will do better than 10,000 ft. else on a hot day I will never get out
of ground effect.
rick
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
> KFLY's 6000 foot runway sounds long. But for grins, I just called the
> ATIS at Colorado Springs. At the moment, density altitude is 9000 feet.
> That Corvair is going to be earning its keep.
>
> Can't wait to see it fly.
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mike
>>
>> Will be flying out of Meadow Lake airport East of Colorado Springs.
>>
>> http://www.meadowlakeairport.com/
>>
>> Has a 6000 x 60 ft. paved runway and a shorter dirt/grass runway. There
>> is an instructor here with a Cessna 140 that does instruction and anothe
r
>> with a Citabria. Both taildraggers, the Citabria has a stick and is tand
em
>> but has 160 HP so may not be very Piet-like, the 140 has an 85 so may fe
el
>> more Piet-like power wise even though it is side by side.
>>
>> Bought a small video camera (4"x2"x3") that I am thinking of putting on
>> the top of the tail to video the first flights.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
>> Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome Rick! I=92m so happy for you after these years of toiling an
d
>>> building that you=92re getting THIS close to****
>>>
>>> flying! ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> What kind of field are you at, paved, turf, gravel? Long runway, good
>>> approaches? That Corvair should get you ****
>>>
>>> out of just about anywhere. ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Will you brush up in anything like a Cub or such? Looking forward to
>>> hearing updates and how you like flying her. ****
>>>
>>> She=92ll be a fun, fun airplane!****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
>>> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Holland
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:22 PM
>>> *To:* pietenpol-list
>>> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: just right--- 85 years running****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Great pictures Mikey, I saved them into my desktop background folder.
>>> Will help me get even more excited about my first flight test next mont
h.
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> rick h****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
>>> Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:****
>>>
>>> Oscar, ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> You're so right in all the positive things said about Pietenpols over
>>> the years. Your post made me think of how enjoyable the Pietenol is t
o
>>> fly and what an honest and good****
>>>
>>> flying airplane it is. Even when I take my flight review in a Cub or
>>> get to fly another taildragger I think about how I like the Pietenpol
>>> better. Those other airplanes are wonderful****
>>>
>>> too, no doubt but I am always impressed by how nicely this little thing
>>> flies, lands, stalls, turns, and handles. On a smooth evening before
>>> sunset or at sunrise when the winds****
>>>
>>> are calm it just is like silky smooth and fingertip control. Bernard
>>> (or Bernie for those of you who don't like people calling him Bernie:)
knew
>>> what he was doing!****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Mike C.****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
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>>> ** **
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rick Holland
>>> Castle Rock, Colorado
>>> NX6819Z
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
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>> Rick Holland
>> Castle Rock, Colorado
>> NX6819Z
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Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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