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1. 12:43 AM - Re: Ford motors in Australia? (bubbleboy)
2. 02:57 AM - Re: just right--- 85 years running (Jack Phillips)
3. 06:10 AM - coaming tips (GNflyer)
4. 06:31 AM - Re: coaming tips (danhelsper@aol.com)
5. 06:47 AM - Re: coaming tips (GNflyer)
6. 07:59 AM - Re: coaming tips (Marcus Zechini)
7. 08:09 AM - Re: coaming tips (Gary Boothe)
8. 08:28 AM - Re: steel " jenny style" straight axle gear (womenfly2)
9. 08:31 AM - Re: coaming tips (GNflyer)
10. 08:43 AM - Re: Re: coaming tips (Gary Boothe)
11. 09:56 AM - Re: Re: NX626E (Dan Yocum)
12. 10:58 AM - Re: coaming tips (AircamperN11MS)
13. 12:00 PM - Re: Re: steel " jenny style" straight axle gear (Jack)
14. 12:22 PM - Re: steel " jenny style" straight axle gear (AircamperN11MS)
15. 05:04 PM - Re: stall speed (TriScout)
16. 06:26 PM - Re: Re: coaming tips (Gary Boothe)
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| Subject: | Re: Ford motors in Australia? |
Hi Joe....last year on my way to Natfly I broke down in Forbes and while my ute
was being repaired, I discovered an empty yard that had 2 Model T advertised.
They were basket cases in need of restoration but was told that the guy who owned
them had quite a collection of old Ford engines and parts. I got the phone
number in case I ever needed one but decided on a Corvair. Where are you? Do
you want the number?
Scotty
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Tail and Ribs built...Building fuselage & undercarriage...Corvair engine at
Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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| Subject: | just right--- 85 years running |
The FAA's definition of service ceiling is the altitude at which the climb
rate is reduced to 100 fpm. On a hot day with a heavy passenger and full
fuel, my Pietenpol's service ceiling (at that definition) is about 400 feet.
I remember taking a 205 lb passenger up on a 95 degree day at Sanford, NC
(KTTA) which has a 6,000' runway and a field elevation of 275' MSL. By the
time we got to the end of that runway we were only 100' off the ground.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: just right--- 85 years running
Yes Ken, one Piet spec you almost never hear people talk about is service
ceiling, what is the highest anyone with a Corvair Piet gone? Sure hope mine
will do better than 10,000 ft. else on a hot day I will never get out of
ground effect.
rick
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
KFLY's 6000 foot runway sounds long. But for grins, I just called the ATIS
at Colorado Springs. At the moment, density altitude is 9000 feet. That
Corvair is going to be earning its keep.
Can't wait to see it fly.
Cheers, Ken
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
Mike
Will be flying out of Meadow Lake airport East of Colorado Springs.
http://www.meadowlakeairport.com/
Has a 6000 x 60 ft. paved runway and a shorter dirt/grass runway. There is
an instructor here with a Cessna 140 that does instruction and another with
a Citabria. Both taildraggers, the Citabria has a stick and is tandem but
has 160 HP so may not be very Piet-like, the 140 has an 85 so may feel more
Piet-like power wise even though it is side by side.
Bought a small video camera (4"x2"x3") that I am thinking of putting on the
top of the tail to video the first flights.
Rick
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
Awesome Rick! I'm so happy for you after these years of toiling and
building that you're getting THIS close to
flying!
What kind of field are you at, paved, turf, gravel? Long runway, good
approaches? That Corvair should get you
out of just about anywhere.
Will you brush up in anything like a Cub or such? Looking forward to
hearing updates and how you like flying her.
She'll be a fun, fun airplane!
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: just right--- 85 years running
Great pictures Mikey, I saved them into my desktop background folder. Will
help me get even more excited about my first flight test next month.
rick h
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
Oscar,
You're so right in all the positive things said about Pietenpols over the
years. Your post made me think of how enjoyable the Pietenol is to fly and
what an honest and good
flying airplane it is. Even when I take my flight review in a Cub or get
to fly another taildragger I think about how I like the Pietenpol better.
Those other airplanes are wonderful
too, no doubt but I am always impressed by how nicely this little thing
flies, lands, stalls, turns, and handles. On a smooth evening before
sunset or at sunrise when the winds
are calm it just is like silky smooth and fingertip control. Bernard (or
Bernie for those of you who don't like people calling him Bernie:) knew what
he was doing!
Mike C.
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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Thanks to Oscar for letting me know about a tip on building cockpit coaming I call
it. I believe Douwe put in the BPA which I have not been subscribed to in
a long time and don't really know how to get back on now.I tried to reply to you
Douwe and it would not let me. anyway just thought I'd try this approach and
see if somebody would point me in the right direction. I have an idea of how
I would go about I but for sure need to see how others have done it. I'm flying
my GN-1 bare bones plain but the curved front area on the rear pit would
sure look nice. not sure how much of a hindrance it would be getting in and out
with my long legs. I am planning on making some type of removable cover for
the front. was going to get a snap on vinyl one made but was told they tend to
un snap in flight and I sure don't need that drape over my tail surfaces for
sure! do not archive.Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: coaming tips |
Raymond,
The blokes at the UK Pietenpol site have archived this information nicely f
or us. Here it is:
http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/#/leather-coaming-padding/4541602921
And, as Douwe Blumberg would say, "Easy peezy, lemon squeezy", or "Bob's yo
ur uncle" (love that one) :O)
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: GNflyer <rayeh48@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 30, 2013 8:11 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: coaming tips
Thanks to Oscar for letting me know about a tip on building cockpit coaming
I
call it. I believe Douwe put in the BPA which I have not been subscribed to
in a
long time and don't really know how to get back on now.I tried to reply to
you
Douwe and it would not let me. anyway just thought I'd try this approach an
d see
if somebody would point me in the right direction. I have an idea of how I
would go about I but for sure need to see how others have done it. I'm flyi
ng my
GN-1 bare bones plain but the curved front area on the rear pit would sure
look
nice. not sure how much of a hindrance it would be getting in and out with
my
long legs. I am planning on making some type of removable cover for the fro
nt.
was going to get a snap on vinyl one made but was told they tend to un snap
in
flight and I sure don't need that drape over my tail surfaces for sure! do
not
archive.Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: coaming tips |
thank you sir! checked it out. looks like that fellow got good results rom his
method.you did good.Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: coaming tips |
I have canvas (actually not quite that heavy) covers for both 'pits. Was
flying with front one snapped on when I first started, as it was cold. The
flapping in the wind, which is inevitable, rips top snaps out of place.
This actually happened when I bought, removed wings & trailered home. Loose
snap scarred the backside of front 'pit. I want to make a metal cover for
front. I have seen some nice ones.
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:10 AM, GNflyer <rayeh48@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Thanks to Oscar for letting me know about a tip on building cockpit
> coaming I call it. I believe Douwe put in the BPA which I have not been
> subscribed to in a long time and don't really know how to get back on now.I
> tried to reply to you Douwe and it would not let me. anyway just thought
> I'd try this approach and see if somebody would point me in the right
> direction. I have an idea of how I would go about I but for sure need to
> see how others have done it. I'm flying my GN-1 bare bones plain but the
> curved front area on the rear pit would sure look nice. not sure how much
> of a hindrance it would be getting in and out with my long legs. I am
> planning on making some type of removable cover for the front. was going to
> get a snap on vinyl one made but was told they tend to un snap in flight
> and I sure don't need that drape over my tail surfaces for sure! do not
> archive.Raymond
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407760#407760
>
>
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Marcus,
I have canvas covers, but used 4 toggle snaps for the front cover, 1 in each
corner. There has been no evidence of anything trying to come loose. The
rear cover has no toggle snaps, but it stays on just fine.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus
Zechini
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: coaming tips
I have canvas (actually not quite that heavy) covers for both 'pits. Was
flying with front one snapped on when I first started, as it was cold. The
flapping in the wind, which is inevitable, rips top snaps out of place. This
actually happened when I bought, removed wings & trailered home. Loose snap
scarred the backside of front 'pit. I want to make a metal cover for front.
I have seen some nice ones.
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:10 AM, GNflyer <rayeh48@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks to Oscar for letting me know about a tip on building cockpit coaming
I call it. I believe Douwe put in the BPA which I have not been subscribed
to in a long time and don't really know how to get back on now.I tried to
reply to you Douwe and it would not let me. anyway just thought I'd try
this approach and see if somebody would point me in the right direction. I
have an idea of how I would go about I but for sure need to see how others
have done it. I'm flying my GN-1 bare bones plain but the curved front area
on the rear pit would sure look nice. not sure how much of a hindrance it
would be getting in and out with my long legs. I am planning on making some
type of removable cover for the front. was going to get a snap on vinyl one
made but was told they tend to un snap in flight and I sure don't need that
drape over my tail surfaces for sure! do not archive.Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: steel " jenny style" straight axle gear |
nightmare wrote:
> EDITED: that's great Mike. those pics definitely helped. but still trying to
find a thickness of 4130 round tubing that would do the trick without being too
heavy. .
Streamline Tubing (http://secure.chassisshop.com/partlist/5411/)
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| Subject: | Re: coaming tips |
Gary- now ya done it! got my interest up with that pic of the corvair. is there
a way you would correspond with me off-line about it and whether you have been
flying with the cover on the front much? I am interested in the routing and
rigging of the vent tubes from the rocker arm cover also. I have a vent in the
engine center cover butt have been told it would be better to go with one from
the rocker cover also. I'm thinking you likely have a top vent and an oil return
from a oil separator but anyway here I go bugging you again. Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: coaming tips |
Gboothe5@comcast.net. Contact me anytime.
I probably have about 20 hours on the plane with that front cover installed.
You are exactly right about the vent tubes.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GNflyer
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 8:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: coaming tips
Gary- now ya done it! got my interest up with that pic of the corvair. is
there a way you would correspond with me off-line about it and whether you
have been flying with the cover on the front much? I am interested in the
routing and rigging of the vent tubes from the rocker arm cover also. I have
a vent in the engine center cover butt have been told it would be better to
go with one from the rocker cover also. I'm thinking you likely have a top
vent and an oil return from a oil separator but anyway here I go bugging you
again. Raymond
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I'm not sure, but I *think* you've done a couple landings before. Wheel
never left the pavement after the first touch.
;-)
That's a beautiful airplane, Bill. Congrats!
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: coaming tips |
Gary,
Maybe if you remove the rear cover you'll get higher landing scores???? Just thinking
out loud.
Couldn't help it,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: steel " jenny style" straight axle gear |
The price on streamline is criminal.
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Aug 30, 2013, at 10:28 AM, "womenfly2" <Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com> wrote:
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> nightmare wrote:
>> EDITED: that's great Mike. those pics definitely helped. but still trying to
find a thickness of 4130 round tubing that would do the trick without being too
heavy. .
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| Subject: | Re: steel " jenny style" straight axle gear |
Jack,
Wow, I think the scrap value of my plane just went up.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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I did a runup yesterday and had a 250 rpm drop on my left mag, so I brought her
back to the hangar. After some plug cleaning/re-arranging, it seems fine. I took
her up today and video (iphoned) some speed checks, power settings. and a
couple of power off stalls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-15caBJh6sU
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KLNC
A65-8
N2308C
AN Hardware
Airframe 724TT
W72CK-42 Sensenich
Standard Factory GN-1
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| Subject: | Re: coaming tips |
Too scary!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
AircamperN11MS
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 10:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: coaming tips
--> <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
Gary,
Maybe if you remove the rear cover you'll get higher landing scores????
Just thinking out loud.
Couldn't help it,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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