Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 09/04/13


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 04:03 AM - Re: Step (danhelsper@aol.com)
     2. 04:31 AM - Re: Step  (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
     3. 06:43 AM - Re: Step (Michael Perez)
     4. 08:26 AM - Re: Step (taildrags)
     5. 08:36 AM - Re: Re: Step (Rick Holland)
     6. 10:17 AM - Re: Step (taildrags)
     7. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: Step (Rick Holland)
     8. 03:54 PM - Re: front seat height (Jerry Dotson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:03:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Step
    From: danhelsper@aol.com
    Ezra, As you can see.....tapered doubler. You mentioned that your tail wheel has grown larger with age, but no mention of your waistline. You might conside r beefing-up the longeron to hold the extra weight :O) -----Original Message----- From: John Greenlee <jmgreenlee@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Tue, Sep 3, 2013 9:53 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Step et> Anybody that has incorporated a step... I have found that my Piet has grown a larger tail wheel with each new itera tion. And I started this airplane originally when I was about 30. Being 50 now h as shown I am less flexible than before. SO...to put a step under the back seat...I can see it would mostly be a semicircular cut out in the ply for a foot. Did you use any provision such as a tapered doubler so the fabric is shaped much as the surrounding area. In o ther words just attaching the fabric to the cutout would make a valley in the si de of the plane. Thoughts? Solutions? What did you do? Ezra Stiles Sent from my iPhone


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    Time: 04:31:18 AM PST US
    From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
    Subject: Re: Step
    UNCLASSIFIED MAN this list is a blessing. I was scratching my head about coaming, and lo and behold there is a link. I was thinking "Oscars had a step that sure made it easier for him to get in and out." and here is discussion about both subjects. What are the pros/cons of each type? Blue Skies, Steve D On 09/04/13, danhelsper@aol.com wrote: > Ezra, > > As you can see.....tapered doubler. You mentioned that your tail wheel has grown larger with age, but no mention of your waistline. You might consider beefing-up the longeron to hold the extra weight :O) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Greenlee <jmgreenlee@sbcglobal.net> > To: Pietenpol-List Digest Server <pietenpol-list-digest@matronics.com> > Sent: Tue, Sep 3, 2013 9:53 pm > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Step > > UNCLASSIFIED


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    Time: 06:43:33 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Step
    Ezra, my setup won't really help you or others that already have fabric in place, but it may be of use for those to come later that do an archive sear ch.=0A=0AMy step is a simple tube in tube deal with a slot milled in the sm aller "slide" tube. The length of the slot and it's position on the tube di ctate how far the step slides out and where it stops both full out and full y retracted. The screw in the larger tube is the stop for the slide.- The wood blocks are used for holding the assembly on the fuselage. The assembl y was positioned using existing seat supports and longeron to carry the loa ds applied to it. Fully extended, it reaches about 4-5" past the fuselage s ide.=0A=0AIt works really well, all I need to do now is fabricate a small c over.=0A=0A=0A-=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AKaretaker Aero =0Awww.karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 08:26:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Step
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Holy smokes-! That step on Helsper's airplane looks like it could be a grotto for a figurine of a revered saint! That is pretty fancy. (Hey... maybe someone can Photoshop a 3-D image of Mr. Pietenpol into that little grotto!) As [UNCLASSIFIED] Steve mentioned, Scout does have a simple step for the rear cockpit... a washer welded to the end of a piece of tube (so your shoe won't slip off the step). The tube is bolted to a crossmember in the floor of the fuselage. I can take a picture next time I'm out at the hangar if anyone is interested. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408007#408007


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    Time: 08:36:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Step
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    My step which helps a lot but what helps me getting in and out of the cockpit the most is a grab handle at the back of the center section. rh On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 9:25 AM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Holy smokes-! That step on Helsper's airplane looks like it could be a > grotto for a figurine of a revered saint! That is pretty fancy. (Hey... > maybe someone can Photoshop a 3-D image of Mr. Pietenpol into that little > grotto!) > > As [UNCLASSIFIED] Steve mentioned, Scout does have a simple step for the > rear cockpit... a washer welded to the end of a piece of tube (so your shoe > won't slip off the step). The tube is bolted to a crossmember in the floor > of the fuselage. I can take a picture next time I'm out at the hangar if > anyone is interested. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408007#408007 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z


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    Time: 10:17:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Step
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Rick; your step is almost exactly like mine, except fancier. The part outside the airplane looks identical. By the way, I notice your brake line tubing in the photo, and will mention what I did with mine. I was concerned about something snagging the tubing since I fly off of grass strips and sometimes there are weeds sticking up trying to snag things. I tried to route the brake lines on the aft side of the gear leg tubing so they were a bit more protected, then secured them to the tubing with some clips that I got from Aircraft Spruce (picture attached). Spruce part no. 05-00004 and I think they call them tubing clamps. You can bend them to fit the size of your gear leg tubing and secure them with zip-ties through the square holes. I think I only needed two or three on each gear leg to secure the tubing up the leg. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408014#408014 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/05_00004_407.jpg


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    Time: 11:18:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Step
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Thanks Oscar, I welded a single short 3/8" piece of tubing to the center of each gear leg that the tubes go through but have thought about securing them a little tighter, will check out the part. rick h On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:16 AM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Rick; your step is almost exactly like mine, except fancier. The part > outside the airplane looks identical. > > By the way, I notice your brake line tubing in the photo, and will mention > what I did with mine. I was concerned about something snagging the tubing > since I fly off of grass strips and sometimes there are weeds sticking up > trying to snag things. I tried to route the brake lines on the aft side of > the gear leg tubing so they were a bit more protected, then secured them to > the tubing with some clips that I got from Aircraft Spruce (picture > attached). Spruce part no. 05-00004 and I think they call them tubing > clamps. You can bend them to fit the size of your gear leg tubing and > secure them with zip-ties through the square holes. I think I only needed > two or three on each gear leg to secure the tubing up the leg. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408014#408014 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/05_00004_407.jpg > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z


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    Time: 03:54:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: front seat height
    From: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net>
    Paul, I built the seat by the plans and still had to make the cushion 3" thick to get the wide cheeks out of the way!!! -------- Jerry Dotson First flight June 16,2012 Flying in phase 2 Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408028#408028




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