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1. 03:52 AM - Re: Re: New User & Potential Addict... (Charles Burkholder)
2. 05:16 AM - Welcome Jim! (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 05:29 AM - Re: Priceless (pineymb)
4. 06:49 AM - Re: leading edge plywood (pringljo)
5. 06:59 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (Gary Boothe)
6. 07:15 AM - Re: New User & Potential Addict... (Bill Church)
7. 07:25 AM - Re: Some GN-1 progress (coxwelljon)
8. 07:57 AM - Re: New User & Potential Addict... (Jack Phillips)
9. 08:11 AM - Re: New User & Potential Addict... (airlion2@gmail.com)
10. 08:48 AM - new builder---welcome! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
11. 09:56 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (danhelsper@aol.com)
12. 10:02 AM - Re: Routing the tail pieces - table saw modified to router table (Rick Holland)
13. 10:05 AM - Re: Wood relaxation (Rick Holland)
14. 10:10 AM - Re: Routing the tail pieces - table saw modified to router table (Jack)
15. 11:49 AM - Classifieds for the Experimental Aviation Community (EdKranz)
16. 11:56 AM - Classifieds for the Experimental Aviation Community (EdKranz)
17. 12:16 PM - Re: Routing the tail pieces - table saw modified to router tabl (aerocarjake)
18. 12:48 PM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (Michael Perez)
19. 02:06 PM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (Chuck Campbell)
20. 03:04 PM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
21. 04:02 PM - leading edge plywood - Mea Culpa (Gary Boothe)
22. 05:07 PM - Re: Welcome Jim! (BritishJim)
23. 05:11 PM - Re: New User & Potential Addict... (BritishJim)
24. 05:17 PM - Re: New User & Potential Addict... (BritishJim)
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| Subject: | Re: New User & Potential Addict... |
Bring them on Jim. There's a ton of helpful and smart people on this list...
Charles
----- Original Message -----
From: "BritishJim" <james@pieceofcakepr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:28 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
> <james@pieceofcakepr.com>
>
> Before I forget...
>
> I've got a bunch of questions. Is it acceptable for me to compile them
> into a single thread?
>
> I know some forums have different rules and I don't want to violate
> protocol!
>
> Jim.
>
> --------
> Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the
> ground....
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408402#408402
>
>
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Welcome Jim!
Being an ex-Brit, I think you'll find us colonists fairly friendly!!
Seriously though, the Pietenpol community is one of the best parts of my
twelve-year Piet experience. I doubt I'd be flying yet except for the help,
support and encouragement I've found on this forum. We don't have any rules
really. Sometimes we have to have to remind eachother to exercise common
sense, respect and good humor. and we often refer people to the archives and
www.westcoastpiet.com <http://www.westcoastpiet.com/> , both of which are a
wealth of information where you'll find many of your questions answered.
The Pietenpol Aircamper is a great plane; it is what it is. A no-frills,
"puddle jumper" designed in the twenties. The first things you'll hear will
be: 1. build to the plans as much as possible 2. keep it light 3. buy the
three Tony Bingiles books on building from EAA 4. keep it light 5.
build to the plans 6. use wisdom and discernment as to whose advice you
take 7. build to the plans 8. keep it light 9. don't try to turn a
Piet into something it wasn't meant to be and 10. try to get to the annual
Brodhead, WI fly-in the weekend before that "other" flyin in Oshkosh 11.
join the Brodhead Pietenpol Association and get the newsletter for ideas and
encouragement while building and finally. build to the plans and keep it
light!
Other than that, fire away! This stuff was new to all of us at one point!!
Douwe
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Out lookin for my dog with some help from a fellow Pieter :)
cdawson5854(at)shaw.ca wrote:
> Isn't that where you can watch your dog run away for
> three days? :-)
> Clif
>
>
> > Evening flight on the outskirts of Winnipeg.
> > 8:00PM and still 32deg C out.
> >
> > Gotta love it!!!
> >
> > --------
> > Adrian M
> > Winnipeg, MB
> > Canada
> >
> >
>
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Adrian M
Winnipeg, MB
Canada
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
In looking at these pictures, I looks like most folks have used a solid, rounded
leading edge that runs the whole length of the wing, and then butted the plywood
up to it. However, in the picture Mike Perez posted, it looks like he just
used a rounded rib tip, and wrapped ply around that. How many others have
used that approach? Is this adequate?
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Joe Pringle
Atlanta, GA
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
Joe,
Unless you want to bet your life on someone else's wing re-design, I would
suggest to just follow the plans.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pringljo
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 6:50 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood
--> <joseph.pringle@gmail.com>
In looking at these pictures, I looks like most folks have used a solid,
rounded leading edge that runs the whole length of the wing, and then butted
the plywood up to it. However, in the picture Mike Perez posted, it looks
like he just used a rounded rib tip, and wrapped ply around that. How many
others have used that approach? Is this adequate?
--------
Joe Pringle
Atlanta, GA
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| Subject: | Re: New User & Potential Addict... |
Hi Jim.
Welcome to the forum. And welcome to Canada as well.
Where in Ontario are you? I'm just north of Toronto, and several years into slowly
building a Piet.
There are several flying Piets around, and a few builders as well.
There's an annual Pietenpol Picnic held in southern Ontario every year, on the
Father's day weekend. Too late for this year, but worth noting for next year.
Bring on the questions. But first, try using the search function. A LOT of questions
have been asked in the past, so there's a good chance that you may be
able to find what you're looking for in the archives. However, this forum is
a very friendly bunch, and somebody likely has an answer for just about any question
you might have.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Some GN-1 progress |
That is my hope. It requires a little cowl work to get clearance but I was at
the point of making a nose bowl so I can make it to fit. I am real pleased with
the simplicity of the mounting.
--------
Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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| Subject: | New User & Potential Addict... |
Hi Jim,
Let me add my welcome to those you've already gotten, and emphasize again
how warm and friendly this forum is compared to some others. I'm building
(well, not at the moment, but will return eventualy to) an RV-10, and I'm on
that forum as well, mostly as a lurker. What a difference between
Pietenpeople and RV'ers! Many on the RV-10 list spend a lot of time
complaining about the quality of Van's kits (which I find to be incredibly
high quality), and whining about which dual EFIS glass panel they should
install. I find very little experimentation or new ideas floating around on
that forum. On the Pietenpol forum, although you will constantly here
"Build it to the plans", most of us have made a modification or two to fit
our own needs - some mods more effective than others.
If you don't already own them, buy a set of the Tony Bingelis books from EAA
- you will find they answer many of your questions about how to build an
airplane from scratch.
What kind of flying experience do you have? Are you a current pilot? Do
you have tailwheel experience? Understand that the Pietenpol flies like
what it is - a 1929 design. The plane that flies most like it (that I have
flown, anyway) is probably a Piper J-3 Cub. The Piet is blind in forward
visibility on landing (and at all other times, if powered by a Model A with
a radiator sitting smack in the middle of your forward vision), and requires
a lot of rudder to counteract the adverse yaw of its less than spectacular
ailerons. It is also more fun to fly than just about any other airplane I
have flown.
Building from scratch is totally different from kit-building, in that YOU
get to make all the decisions, such as what engine to use, what type of
landing gear, one-piece or 3-piece wing, what covering system, what paint
system, etc. Again, I'm about halfway through building an RV-10 and I find
it to just be tedious assembly work. The factory got to do all the fun
stuff, fabricating components. I found the build process on the Pietenpol
to be very enjoyable by comparison.
So welcome to the world of Pietenpols! It's hard to beat open cockpit
flying, although in Canada you might find something with an enclosed cockpit
and a heater a bit more comfortable.
Good luck with your decision.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BritishJim
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:16 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: New User & Potential Addict...
Hello all,
I'm Jim - originally British and now nestled up here in Canada. Perhaps I
should be joining a ski forum?!
I was 99.9999% to biting the bullet on a Zenith CH750 kit, but then I was at
AirVenture this year and saw the Pietenpol. Well, it was like the first time
I saw my now wife.
That's when the fence presented itself and I'm currently sat on it.
It looks as if the Piet community is very supportive, so I thought I'd drop
by, say hello and see if I'm 'welcome'?!
I could easily be swayed in my decision and I don't think anything would
beat the open cockpit and vintage feel of a Piet.
It's tough. Convince me!
All the best,
Jim.
--------
Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the
ground....
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408401#408401
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| Subject: | Re: New User & Potential Addict... |
Well said jack, gardiner
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:57 AM, "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wro
te:
> Hi Jim,
>
> Let me add my welcome to those you've already gotten, and emphasize again h
ow warm and friendly this forum is compared to some others. I'm building (w
ell, not at the moment, but will return eventualy to) an RV-10, and I'm on t
hat forum as well, mostly as a lurker. What a difference between Pietenpeop
le and RV'ers! Many on the RV-10 list spend a lot of time complaining about
the quality of Van's kits (which I find to be incredibly high quality), and
whining about which dual EFIS glass panel they should install. I find very
little experimentation or new ideas floating around on that forum. On the P
ietenpol forum, although you will constantly here "Build it to the plans", m
ost of us have made a modification or two to fit our own needs - some mods m
ore effective than others.
>
> If you don't already own them, buy a set of the Tony Bingelis books from E
AA - you will find they answer many of your questions about how to build an a
irplane from scratch.
>
> What kind of flying experience do you have? Are you a current pilot? Do y
ou have tailwheel experience? Understand that the Pietenpol flies like what
it is =93 a 1929 design. The plane that flies most like it (that I h
ave flown, anyway) is probably a Piper J-3 Cub. The Piet is blind in forwar
d visibility on landing (and at all other times, if powered by a Model A wit
h a radiator sitting smack in the middle of your forward vision), and requir
es a lot of rudder to counteract the adverse yaw of its less than spectacula
r ailerons. It is also more fun to fly than just about any other airplane I
have flown.
>
> Building from scratch is totally different from kit-building, in that YOU g
et to make all the decisions, such as what engine to use, what type of landi
ng gear, one-piece or 3-piece wing, what covering system, what paint system,
etc. Again, I=99m about halfway through building an RV-10 and I find
it to just be tedious assembly work. The factory got to do all the fun stu
ff, fabricating components. I found the build process on the Pietenpol to b
e very enjoyable by comparison.
>
> So welcome to the world of Pietenpols! It=99s hard to beat open coc
kpit flying, although in Canada you might find something with an enclosed co
ckpit and a heater a bit more comfortable.
>
> Good luck with your decision.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BritishJim
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:16 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: New User & Potential Addict...
>
m>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm Jim - originally British and now nestled up here in Canada. Perhaps I s
hould be joining a ski forum?!
>
> I was 99.9999% to biting the bullet on a Zenith CH750 kit, but then I was a
t AirVenture this year and saw the Pietenpol. Well, it was like the first ti
me I saw my now wife.
>
> That's when the fence presented itself and I'm currently sat on it.
>
> It looks as if the Piet community is very supportive, so I thought I'd dro
p by, say hello and see if I'm 'welcome'?!
>
> I could easily be swayed in my decision and I don't think anything would b
eat the open cockpit and vintage feel of a Piet.
>
> It's tough. Convince me!
>
> All the best,
> Jim.
>
> --------
> Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the
ground....
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408401#408401
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | new builder---welcome! |
Hello Jim---Welcome to the list. The guys are giving you some excellent adv
ice. I've got nothing to add.
Do you have a paint scheme picked out?
All the best,
Mike C.
Ohio
PS-here's a pic of my Piet. A65 Continental, Jenny style landing gear.
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
Like Gary said, this design is not flight proven. Take your chances if you
like.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: pringljo <joseph.pringle@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 11, 2013 8:50 am
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood
In looking at these pictures, I looks like most folks have used a solid, ro
unded
leading edge that runs the whole length of the wing, and then butted the pl
ywood
up to it. However, in the picture Mike Perez posted, it looks like he just
used
a rounded rib tip, and wrapped ply around that. How many others have used
that
approach? Is this adequate?
--------
Joe Pringle
Atlanta, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408415#408415
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| Subject: | Re: Routing the tail pieces - table saw modified to router |
table
Good idea Jake. This way you don't have both a table saw and a cheap Harbor
Freight router table like mine taking up room in your shop.
rick
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM, aerocarjake <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> Hello good Piet-ple,
>
> Spend the last couple sessions rounding over the tail pieces. To do this I
> did something I have been wanting to do for quite some time - modify my
> table saw wing/extension to mount my router. It took a good deal of time
> and effort with my angle grinder to remove the "ribs" on the underside but
> it was well worth it...
>
> Enjoy a couple images of the modified table saw and the parts after
> rounding over. (I bought my wings and tail "mostly completed" from another
> gentleman so I am mostly just having to refine them.)
>
> Enjoying the adventure...
>
> --------
> Jake Schultz - curator,
> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408392#408392
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/table_saw_underside_of_table_891.jpg
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/table_saw_modified_for_router_underside_416.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/table_saw_with_router_181.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag4453_1_152.jpg
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: Wood relaxation |
|>Why would you put an airplane away in November?
I think we would have to spend a winter in Minnesota to understand that.
rh
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>wrote:
> ** ** **
>
> Why would you put an airplane away in November?****
>
> ** **
>
> Jack Phillips****
>
> NX899JP****
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia****
>
> ** **
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Cardinal
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:52 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood relaxation****
>
> ** **
>
> The prop bolts on NX18235 would be loosened in November when it was put
> away for the winter and then re-torqued during the annual condition
> inspection in April. Always followed the Sensenich recommendations of 15-19
> ft. lbs. for AN6 bolts.****
>
> There was never a problem with it but last winter we installed ****
> belleville**** spring washers per Marc Zeitlin's instructions that are
> attached.****
>
> ****
>
> It has been working great and I don't need to keep re-torquing the prop
> bolts.****
>
> ****
>
> Greg Cardinal****
>
> ****Minneapolis********
>
> ----- Original Message ----- ****
>
> *From:* Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> ****
>
> *To:* pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> ****
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:08 PM****
>
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Wood relaxation****
>
> ** **
>
> Have been reading the FAA flight testing document and it mentions that
> when checking wood prop torque (every hour for the first 5 hours they say)
> you should loosen all bolts and let the wood relax for an hour then
> retorque. How many of you guys with wood props do it this way? ****
>
> ** **
>
> rh
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, ****Colorado****
> NX6819Z
>
> ****
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List*
>
> *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com*
>
> *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c*
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Routing the tail pieces - table saw modified to router |
table
Looks like a museum to me Jake, beautiful work.
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerocarjake
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Routing the tail pieces - table saw modified to
router table
Hello good Piet-ple,
Spend the last couple sessions rounding over the tail pieces. To do this I
did something I have been wanting to do for quite some time - modify my
table saw wing/extension to mount my router. It took a good deal of time
and effort with my angle grinder to remove the "ribs" on the underside but
it was well worth it...
Enjoy a couple images of the modified table saw and the parts after rounding
over. (I bought my wings and tail "mostly completed" from another gentleman
so I am mostly just having to refine them.)
Enjoying the adventure...
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408392#408392
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/table_saw_modified_for_router_underside_4
16.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/table_saw_with_router_181.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag4453_1_152.jpg
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| Subject: | Classifieds for the Experimental Aviation Community |
Hello, Pietenpol builders and flyers!
Over the past few years I've noticed that many homebuilders tend to stick to their
own online groups. Also, when people are looking to buy or sell parts (or
planes), that experience is also quite fragmented. There will be different postings
on individual email lists, dedicated builder forums, and the big general
aviation classifieds sites... but often these listings would be of interest to
everyone regardless of which type of plane they are building or flying.
To try to help people reach across those divisions, I am launching a new website:
www.SkySwapper.com
It's an online classifieds site purely dedicated to the experimental aviation community.
Of course, since it's brand new, it's pretty empty... but I'm hoping you all can
help me with that. Posting ads with one photo will always be free, but sign
up using the promo code: matronics
and you'll get the ability to post ads with 4 up to pictures for free as thanks
for being one of the early adopters, along with some other perks.
(Or simply register with this link:)
http://www.skyswapper.com/register.php?registration_code=matronics
Since I'm a -10 builder that frequents the Matronics forums, I decided that this
was the best community to begin the initial launch with. The site is still in
a beta release, so comments, suggestions, and complaints are all very important
to me. If you see anything that is broken, or have ideas about how to make
the site function better, please let me know thru the Contact Us page on the
site.
Thanks for your time and happy building and flying!
Ed Kranz
RV10 Builder
www.SkySwapper.com
www.EdandColleen.com (my build site)
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| Subject: | Classifieds for the Experimental Aviation Community |
Hello, Pietenpol builders and flyers!
Over the past few years I've noticed that many homebuilders tend to stick to their
own online groups. Also, when people are looking to buy or sell parts (or
planes), that experience is also quite fragmented. There will be different postings
on individual email lists, dedicated builder forums, and the big general
aviation classifieds sites... but often these listings would be of interest to
everyone regardless of which type of plane they are building or flying.
To try to help people reach across those divisions, I am launching a new website:
www.SkySwapper.com
It's an online classifieds site purely dedicated to the experimental aviation community.
Of course, since it's brand new, it's pretty empty... but I'm hoping you all can
help me with that. Posting ads with one photo will always be free, but sign
up using the promo code: matronics
and you'll get the ability to post ads with 4 up to pictures for free as thanks
for being one of the early adopters, along with some other perks.
(Or simply register with this link:)
http://www.skyswapper.com/register.php?registration_code=matronics
Since I'm a -10 builder that frequents the Matronics forums, I decided that this
was the best community to begin the initial launch with. The site is still in
a beta release, so comments, suggestions, and complaints are all very important
to me. If you see anything that is broken, or have ideas about how to make
the site function better, please let me know thru the Contact Us page on the
site.
Thanks for your time and happy building and flying!
Ed Kranz
RV10 Builder
www.SkySwapper.com
www.EdandColleen.com (my build site)
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| Subject: | Re: Routing the tail pieces - table saw modified to router |
tabl
Thanks.... A small shop was one of the key reasons I wanted to combine both table
saw and router table functions on the same tool.
There are companies that make replacement castings/tops (with router inserts) for
table saws, but this was the simplest way I could think of to do it....
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
There are aircraft that do fly without a "leading edge" but instead rely on
some type of "skin" to form it. Gary Booth pointed this out in a previous
post about my "leading edge."- (Quote below)=0A-=0A"Do you know if buil
ding wings without the solid leading edge is a problem?=0AIt wasn't for tho
usands of T-crafts, Boredom Fighters, etc. In fact, the=0ABoredom Fighter d
oesn't even have the benefit of plywood.just thin aluminum.=0AI find myself
in an odd position of defending the builder's wing, while I so=0Arichly ad
mire Mr. Pietenpol's design. As I am about to start on another=0Ahandmade a
irplane, I am redesigning the wing, too, because..I can! It's=0Acalled Expe
rimental Aviation."=0A-=0AI don't know if anyone has done it on the Piete
npol.- I like it...I am happy with it and in about a years time, (if the
planets are aligned correctly) I will start test flights.=0A=0AMichael Pere
z=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AKaretaker Aero=0Ahttp://www.karetakeraero.com/
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
Yes=2C I did as Michael did. I think the wing is stronger and possibly lig
hter. Chuck
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood
> From: joseph.pringle@gmail.com
> Date: Wed=2C 11 Sep 2013 06:49:36 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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=2C rounded leading edge that runs the whole length of the wing=2C and then
butted the plywood up to it. However=2C in the picture Mike Perez posted
=2C it looks like he just used a rounded rib tip=2C and wrapped ply around
that. How many others have used that approach? Is this adequate?
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| Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
Joe,
My Talyorcraft wing leading edge is thin sheet metal wrapped around
round nose ribs similar to what Michael has done. The Taylorcraft has
been flying this way for 67 years flight proven.
Brian
SLC-UT
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck
Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood
Yes, I did as Michael did. I think the wing is stronger and possibly
lighter. Chuck
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood
> From: joseph.pringle@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:49:36 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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<joseph.pringle@gmail.com>
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> In looking at these pictures, I looks like most folks have used a
solid, rounded leading edge that runs the whole length of the wing, and
then butted the plywood up to it. However, in the picture Mike Perez
posted, it looks like he just used a rounded rib tip, and wrapped ply
around that. How many others have used that approach? Is this adequate?
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> Atlanta, GA
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| Subject: | leading edge plywood - Mea Culpa |
Ha! That's right! I said those words! Thank you, Mike, for reminding me, and
giving me an opportunity to clarify my hasty response this morning.
My earlier response was, "Unless you want to bet your life on someone else's
wing re-design, I would suggest to just follow the plans." Joe Pringle's
question was, ".Is this adequate?"
What I should have said is to educate and convince yourself that you are
making the right decision, not just 'cuz someone else did it. In all
fairness, Joe probably got the idea from Mike, then began the process of
convincing himself by asking The List for feedback. Unfortunately, that's
probably like asking, "Hey, I saw this Riblett airfoil.is that better?"
It is an enormous undertaking to properly understand wing design.and there
are significant differences among the aircraft that I listed as examples.
The T-craft uses an aluminum rib, and the Boredom Fighter a plywood rib.just
for starters. FWIW - I have abandoned the wing re-design on my next project,
and will follow plans.
Joe Pringle - My apologies for a hasty response. I hope you continue your
information quest and make a decision that causes you comfort.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Perez
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood
There are aircraft that do fly without a "leading edge" but instead rely on
some type of "skin" to form it. Gary Booth pointed this out in a previous
post about my "leading edge." (Quote below)
"Do you know if building wings without the solid leading edge is a problem?
It wasn't for thousands of T-crafts, Boredom Fighters, etc. In fact, the
Boredom Fighter doesn't even have the benefit of plywood.just thin aluminum.
I find myself in an odd position of defending the builder's wing, while I so
richly admire Mr. Pietenpol's design. As I am about to start on another
handmade airplane, I am redesigning the wing, too, because..I can! It's
called Experimental Aviation."
I don't know if anyone has done it on the Pietenpol. I like it...I am happy
with it and in about a years time, (if the planets are aligned correctly) I
will start test flights.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
http://www.karetakeraero.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Welcome Jim! |
Thank you!
Great advice. Your warm welcome is much appreciated.
Jim.
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| Subject: | Re: New User & Potential Addict... |
Hi Bill,
Hello; great to meet you!
I'm in London, so I'll blank next Fathers day off on the calendar. We have no kids
and my own Dad is 3,000 miles away back in the UK. See you there!
Jim.
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| Subject: | Re: New User & Potential Addict... |
Great to meet you all.
My only licensed experience is with gliders - 130 hours back in the UK. I'm certainly
used to stick and rudder work.
So that's two fun challenges - building the Piet and getting the license!
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Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....
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