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1. 12:25 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (Peter W Johnson)
2. 05:14 AM - Fw: senior discounts (airlion2@gmail.com)
3. 05:22 AM - Re: leading edge plywood (nightmare)
4. 05:45 AM - Re: leading edge plywood (Bill Church)
5. 05:53 AM - Re: Some GN-1 progress (bdewenter)
6. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: leading edge plywood (Michael Perez)
7. 07:25 AM - Re: Some GN-1 progress (coxwelljon)
8. 07:43 AM - Prop for C-90? (tkreiner)
9. 09:22 AM - Re: Wood relaxation (Kip and Beth Gardner)
10. 09:40 AM - Model A Radiator Needed (Pietflyer1977)
11. 10:25 AM - Re: New User.. (woodflier)
12. 10:41 AM - Re: Re: New User.. (Michael Perez)
13. 11:20 AM - Need email (danhelsper@aol.com)
14. 11:55 AM - Re: Need email (Perry Rhoads)
15. 01:25 PM - Re: Wood relaxation (Greg Cardinal)
16. 02:03 PM - Re: Wood relaxation (AircamperN11MS)
17. 04:33 PM - Cleveland wheels, brakes, axles and Turf Glides (Ryan M)
18. 04:45 PM - Re: Prop for C-90? (dgaldrich)
19. 05:15 PM - End of an era... (G Hansen)
20. 05:36 PM - Re: End of an era... (Michael Orth)
21. 06:43 PM - Re: Re: Wood relaxation (Jack Phillips)
22. 06:58 PM - Re: End of an era... (Jack Phillips)
23. 07:28 PM - Re: Re: Wood relaxation (Dick N)
24. 10:36 PM - Re: End of an era... (aerocarjake)
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Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
Joe,
I built my Piet using the British PFA/LAA approved plans from Jim Wills.
They include a fully enclosed leading edge using 1/16th ply.
There are some pictures on my web site (http://www.cpc-world.com). Look at
Page 9 under "Build Log" -> "Building Photographs".
I had some problems bending the ply around the ribs but eventually managed
to soak the ply over a small diameter pipe and used cargo straps to hold it
in place until the glue dries.
I had a ground loop soon after completion of the Piet and the wing hit a 5
inch fence post alongside the runway. The ply leading edge broke a little, I
had to replace one bay, but the fence post sheared out of the ground and was
left hanging on the fencing wires!
The Piet wing with a full ply leading edge is definitely strong!!!
Hope that helps.
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pringljo
Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2013 11:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: leading edge plywood
--> <joseph.pringle@gmail.com>
In looking at these pictures, I looks like most folks have used a solid,
rounded leading edge that runs the whole length of the wing, and then butted
the plywood up to it. However, in the picture Mike Perez posted, it looks
like he just used a rounded rib tip, and wrapped ply around that. How many
others have used that approach? Is this adequate?
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Joe Pringle
Atlanta, GA
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Subject: | Fwd: senior discounts |
For all of you aging builders building vintage pietenpols.
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Susan Mason" <susangmason@gmail.com>
> Date: September 11, 2013, 8:32:01 PM EDT
> To: "Gardiner Mason" <airlion2@gmail.com>
> Subject: senior discounts
>
> This is from the PCN newsletter. I=99m not sure how accurate this li
st is, but it=99s worth asking when you go any of these places!=93
S.
>
> As I was waiting in line behind an older gentleman at Wendy's
> recently, I heard him ask for his senior discount. The girl at the
> register apologized and charged him less. When I asked the man what
> the discount was, he told me that seniors over age 55 gets 10% off
> everything on the menu, every day.
>
> Being of 'that' age myself, I figured I might as well ask for the discou
nt too.
>
> This incident prompted me to do some research, and I came across a
> list of restaurants, supermarkets, department stores, travel deals and
> other types of offers giving various discounts with different age
> requirements. I was actually surprised to see how many there are and
> how some of them start at the young age of 50 .
>
> This list may not only be useful for you, but for your friends and famil
y too.
>
> Dunkin Donuts gives free coffee to people over 55 . If you're paying
> for a cup every day, you might want to start getting it for FREE.
>
> YOU must ASK for your discount !
>
> RESTAURANTS:
> Applebee's: 15% off with Golden Apple Card (60+)
> Arby's: 10% off ( 55 +)
> Ben & Jerry's: 10% off (60+)
> Bennigan's: discount varies by location (60+)
> Bob's Big Boy: discount varies by location (60+)
> BostonMarket: 10% off (65+)
> Burger King: 10% off (60+)
> Chick-Fil-A: 10% off or free small drink or coffee ( 55+)
> Chili's: 10% off ( 55+)
> CiCi's Pizza: 10% off (60+)
> Denny's: 10% off, 20% off for AARP members ( 55 +)
> Dunkin' Donuts: 10% off or free coffee ( 55+)
> Einstein's Bagels: 10% off baker's dozen of bagels (60+)
> Fuddrucker's: 10% off any senior platter ( 55+)
> Gatti's Pizza: 10% off (60+)
> Golden Corral: 10% off (60+)
> Hardee's: $0.33 beverages everyday (65+)
> IHOP: 10% off ( 55+)
> Jack in the Box: up to 20% off ( 55+)
> KFC: free small drink with any meal ( 55+)
> Krispy Kreme: 10% off ( 50+)
> Long John Silver's: various discounts at locations ( 55+)
> McDonald's: discounts on coffee everyday ( 55+)
> Mrs. Fields: 10% off at participating locations (60+)
> Shoney's: 10% off Sonic: 10% off or free beverage (60+)
> Steak 'n Shake: 10% off every Monday & Tuesday ( 50+)
> Subway: 10% off (60+)
> Sweet Tomatoes: 10% off (62+)
> Taco Bell : 5% off; free beverages for seniors (65+)
> TCBY: 10% off ( 55+)
> Tea Room Cafe: 10% off ( 50+)
> Village Inn: 10% off (60+)
> Waffle House: 10% off every Monday (60+)
> Wendy's: 10% off ( 55 +)
> WhiteCastle: 10% off (62+) This is for me ... if I ever see one again.
>
> RETAIL & APPAREL :
> Banana Republic: 30% off ( 50 +)
> Bealls: 20% off first Tuesday of each month ( 50 +)
> Belk's: 15% off first Tuesday of every month ( 55 +)
> Big Lots: 30% off
> Bon-Ton Department Stores: 15% off on senior discount days ( 55 +)
> C.J. Banks: 10% off every Wednesday (50+)
> Clarks: 10% off (62+)
> Dress Barn: 20% off ( 55+)
> Goodwill: 10% off one day a week (date varies by location)
> Hallmark: 10% off one day a week (date varies by location)
> Kmart: 40% off (Wednesdays only) ( 50+)
> Kohl's: 15% off (60+)
> Modell's Sporting Goods: 30% off
> Rite Aid: 10% off on Tuesdays & 10% off prescriptions
> Ross Stores: 10% off every Tuesday ( 55+)
> The Salvation Army Thrift Stores: up to 50% off ( 55+)
> Stein Mart: 20% off red dot/clearance items first Monday of every month (
55 +)
>
> GROCERY :
> Albertson's: 10% off first Wednesday of each month ( 55 +)
> American Discount Stores: 10% off every Monday ( 50 +)
> Compare Foods Supermarket: 10% off every Wednesday (60+)
> DeCicco Family Markets: 5% off every Wednesday (60+)
> Food Lion: 60% off every Monday (60+)
> Fry's Supermarket: free Fry's VIP Club Membership & 10% off every
> Monday ( 55 +)
> Great Valu Food Store: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
> Gristedes Supermarket: 10% off every Tuesday (60+)
> Harris Teeter: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
> Hy-Vee: 5% off one day a week (date varies by location)
> Kroger: 10% off (date varies by location)
> Morton Williams Supermarket: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
> The Plant Shed: 10% off every Tuesday ( 50 +)
> Publix: 15% off every Wednesday ( 55 +)
> RogersMarketplace: 5% off every Thursday (60+)
> Uncle Guiseppe's Marketplace: 15% off (62+)
>
> TRAVEL :
> Airlines:
> AlaskaAirlines: 50% off (65+) ????
> American Airlines: various discounts for 50% off non-peak periods
> (Tuesdays - Thursdays) (62+)and up (call before booking for discount)
> Continental Airlines: no initiation fee for Continental Presidents
> Club & special fares for select destinations
> Southwest Airlines: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call before
> booking for discount)
> United Airlines: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call before
> booking for discount)
> U.S.Airways: various discounts for ages 65 and up (call before booking
> for discount)
>
> Rail:
> Amtrak: 15% off (62+)
> Bus:
> Greyhound: 15% off (62+)
> Trailways Transportation System: various discounts for ages 50+
>
> Car Rental:
> AlamoCar Rental: up to 25% off for AARP members
> Avis: up to 25% off for AARP members
> Budget Rental Cars: 40% off; up to 50% off for AARP members ( 50+)
> Dollar Rent-A-Car: 10% off ( 50+) Enterprise Rent-A-Car: 5% off for
> AARP members Hertz: up to 25% off for AARP members
> National Rent-A-Car: up to 30% off for AARP members
>
> Overnight Accommodations:
> Holiday Inn: 20-40% off depending on location (62+)
> Best Western: 40% off (55+)
> CambriaSuites: 20%-30% off (60+)
> Waldorf Astoria - NYC $5,000 off nightly rate for Presidential Suite(55 +
)
> Clarion Motels: 20%-30% off (60+)
> Comfort Inn: 20%-30% off (60+)
> Comfort Suites: 20%-30% off (60+)
> Econo Lodge: 40% off (60+)
> Hampton Inns & Suites: 40% off when booked 72 hours in advance
> Hyatt Hotels: 25%-50% off (62+)
> InterContinental Hotels Group: various discounts at all hotels (65+)
> Mainstay Suites: 10% off with Mature Traveler's Discount (50+);
> 20%-30% off (60+)
> Marriott Hotels: 25% off (62+)
> Motel 6: Stay Free Sunday nights (60+)
> Myrtle BeachResort: 30% off ( 55 +)
> Quality Inn: 40%-50% off (60+)
> Rodeway Inn: 20%-30% off (60+)
> Sleep Inn: 40% off (60+)
>
> ACTIVITIES & ENTERTAINMENT :
> AMC Theaters: up to 30% off ( 55 +)
> Bally Total Fitness: $100 off memberships (62+)
> Busch Gardens Tampa, FL: $13 off one-day tickets ( 50 +)
> Carmike Cinemas: 35% off (65+)
> Cinemark/Century Theaters: up to 35% off
> Massage Envy - NYC 20% off all "Happy Endings"(62 +)
> U.S.National Parks: $10 lifetime pass; 50% off additional services
> including camping (62+)
> Regal Cinemas: 50% off Ripley's Believe it or Not: @ off one-day ticket (
55 +)
> SeaWorld, Orlando , FL : $3 off one-day tickets ( 50 +)
>
> CELL PHONE DISCOUNTS :
> AT&T: Special Senior Nation 200 Plan $19.99/month (65+)
> Jitterbug: $10/month cell phone service ( 50 +)
> Verizon Wireless: Verizon Nationwide 65 Plus Plan $29.99/month (65+).
>
> MISCELLANEOUS:
> Great Clips: $8 off hair cuts (60+)
> Supercuts: $8 off haircuts (60+)
>
> NOW, go out there and claim your discounts - - - - and remember ----
> YOU must ASK for your discount ---- no ask, no discount
>
>
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Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
I did a combo of Mike's and orig. Solid leading edge to start then large lightening
holes every 4 inches or so then wrapped ply around leading edge so also adheres
to 1/4 inch of bottom rib cap strip. I like the idea of tying in the top
and bottom of rib.
No nails or staples used through out with exception of temporarily stapling
leading edge with staples till dry.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
One important distinction is that the leading edge of the Jim Wills wing has a
full wrap of 1/16" ply IN ADDITION to the solid leading edge. I have no doubt
that it would result in a very strong wing. The leading edge variation that
is being discussed is one that uses a full wrap of ply, but does not have the
solid leading edge beneath the plywood. The unknown quality of this variation
will be it's resistance to impact (hangar rash), since a single layer of 1/16"
ply likely will not tolerate much abuse. However, until the method has been
tried, this is all speculation. Photos of Peter's and Michael's leading edges
are attached, for comparison.
Bill C.
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Subject: | Re: Some GN-1 progress |
John,
nice work. Your prop hub looks "custom"...Did you make it?
Bob
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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Subject: | Re: leading edge plywood |
I encourage anyone to take a piece of 1/16" plywood used for LE purposes an
d secure it in a bend replicating a LE profile and whack it...with whatever
they choose.- This can possibly be done in a vise.- I believe you will
find that it is more than tough enough for the hangar environment.- To b
e as real world accurate as possible, you may choose do this after soaking,
pre-bending, mounting on a few mock ribs...=0A=0AMy method of making said
LE is to soak the plywood and bend it around a small diameter pipe/tube. (I
used about a 1" to 1-1/4" solid rod) Using refference lines and bending it
straight/square, let it dry on the rod.- When it is removed and relaxes,
it will fit nicely on the ribs.- Prior to soaking, you can bend the piec
es in your hands to determine in which orientation they bend the easiest. M
ake note to bend them this way once soaked and ready for bending on the rod
.=0A=0AThese pieces are epoxied directly to the rib noses and ribs. The ply
goes beyond the nose pieces and over the rib cap strips to tie the assembl
y together.- I believe my LE is about 10" wide, so I have 10" worth of ep
oxy, (T-88) on each rib, which equates to roughly 40" per LE panel.=0A=0AHa
ving this modification complete, assembled, covered and painted, I am confi
dent it it's strength and airworthiness.- But as noted many times in this
thread and other LE threads, it is untested and unproven.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AIf
God is your co-pilot...switch seats.=0A=0A=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol HIN
T Videos=0AKaretaker Aero=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: Some GN-1 progress |
No, It is a Tennessee prop that came with my project. If it is not the right
pitch I will probably try my hand at making one but that is down the road
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Jon Coxwell
GN-1 Builder
Recycle and preserve the planet
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Those of you with a C-90... what prop are you using, what diameter, and what pitch?
My C-90 will be equipped with the -788 camshaft, which supposedly provides the
highest torque to this engine.
Any info will be appreciated.
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Tom Kreiner
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Subject: | Re: Wood relaxation |
I grew up in MN & some years November would have been kinda late to
put a plane away for the winter.
Kip Gardner
On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Rick Holland wrote:
>
> I think we would have to spend a winter in Minnesota to understand
> that.
>
> rh
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com
> > wrote:
> Why would you put an airplane away in November?
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP
>
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Greg Cardinal
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:52 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood relaxation
>
>
> The prop bolts on NX18235 would be loosened in November when it was
> put away for the winter and then re-torqued during the annual
> condition inspection in April. Always followed the Sensenich
> recommendations of 15-19 ft. lbs. for AN6 bolts.
>
> There was never a problem with it but last winter we installed
> belleville spring washers per Marc Zeitlin's instructions that are
> attached.
>
>
> It has been working great and I don't need to keep re-torquing the
> prop bolts.
>
>
> Greg Cardinal
>
> Minneapolis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Rick Holland
>
> To: pietenpol-list
>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:08 PM
>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wood relaxation
>
>
> Have been reading the FAA flight testing document and it mentions
> that when checking wood prop torque (every hour for the first 5
> hours they say) you should loosen all bolts and let the wood relax
> for an hour then retorque. How many of you guys with wood props do
> it this way?
>
>
> rh
>
>
> --
> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
> NX6819Z
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://
> www.matronics.com/c
>
>
> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
> --
> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
> NX6819Z
>
>
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Subject: | Model A Radiator Needed |
I am looking to buy a NEW never used Forest Lovely radiator for a Model A.
If anyone has a extra one or one they decided not to use please PM me or
call me at 812-932-9000 or 812-689-1254. Thanks. Rob
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Jim, let me add my welcome. This is a great group, both the 'virtual' group
from this list-serve, and those on the list I've met in person. Best of lu
ck with your addiction. I built a Pietenpol over 11 years - it could have b
een a lot less but life intervened. I also got my start flying gliders, and
your experience with them will be a good foundation. Both gliders and Piet
enpols are 'rudder' aircraft. I look forward to hearing of your progress.
Matt Paxton
NX629ML
Fairfield, VA
Time: 05:17:50 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New User & Potential Addict...
From: "BritishJim" <james@pieceofcakepr.com>
Great to meet you all.
My only licensed experience is with gliders - 130 hours back in the UK. I'm
certainly
used to stick and rudder work.
So that's two fun challenges - building the Piet and getting the license!
--------
Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the
ground....
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Subject: | Re: RE: New User.. |
Hello Jim.- I am currently somewhat in the same boat (plane) as you.- I
am currently finishing up my plane build and working on my license.- Wel
come aboard!=0A=0A=0A-=0A=0AIf God is your co-pilot...switch seats.=0A=0A
=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AKaretaker Aero=0Awww.karetakerae
ro.com
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Anybody know Ernie Moreno's email?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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here ya go:
ewmoreno@minefiber.com
----- Original Message -----
From: danhelsper@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:19 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Need email
Anybody know Ernie Moreno's email?
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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09/12/13
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Subject: | Re: Wood relaxation |
The "Fun Factor" disappears quickly when the temp drops below 50 F. I stand in
awe of the hardy individuals like Dick Navratil who fly year-round or Don Emch
who puts his Piet on skis.
I flew NX18235 on a 1 hour flight last November to it's winter home. The temp was
42 F. It was a nice flight but I'm glad it wasn't any longer.
Greg Cardinal
[quote="kipandbeth(at)earthlink.n"]I grew up in MN & some years November would
have been kinda late to put a plane away for the winter.
Kip Gardner
On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Rick Holland wrote:
[quote]|>Why would you put an airplane away in November?
I think we would have to spend a winter in Minnesota to understand that.
rh
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
[quote]
Why would you put an airplane away in November?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com (owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com) [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com (owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Greg Cardinal
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:52 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com (pietenpol-list@matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Wood relaxation
The prop bolts on NX18235 would be loosened in November when it was put away for
the winter and then re-torqued during the annual condition inspection in April.
Always followed the Sensenich recommendations of 15-19 ft. lbs. for AN6 bolts.
There was never a problem with it but last winter we installed belleville spring
washers per Marc Zeitlin's instructions that are attached.
It has been working great and I don't need to keep re-torquing the prop bolts.
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
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Subject: | Re: Wood relaxation |
My wife and I once made a one hour flight in 21 degree temp. When we landed she
couldn't speak. Her jaw was frozen. We poured hot tea down her and when she
could speak again her first words were. I'm flying home in Bobs plane. He
has windows and a heater. We were pretty young back then. My new rule is, I
don't go flying unless the temperature is at least as high as I am old. That
would be 52 degrees this year.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Cleveland wheels, brakes, axles and Turf Glides |
Cleveland wheels, brakes, axles and Turf Glides available, contact me off line
if interested.
Ryan
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Subject: | Re: Prop for C-90? |
You could get a prop from an O-200 powered Cessna 150. It would give you a good
benchmark to start from and they are probably available at a reasonable price.
You could maybe borrow a spare from a flight school or someone who has their
engine out for overhaul. You'd then know which way you wanted to go in terms
of pitch/length at very little outlay of cash.
Dave
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Subject: | End of an era... |
Hello Group,
This is to inform Pietenpol people everywhere that I have decided to
retire my Pietenpol CF-AUN after nearly 43 years of fun flying. It is
being donated to the Reynolds Alberta Museum at Wetaskiwin, Alberta,
Canada. It will be preserved and perhaps some day will be on display.
It has only 862 hours total time which is not very much when spread over
such a long period. Basically, at this latitude we have perhaps 5 months
per year that are reasonably comfortable for open cockpit airplanes; the
other 7 months range from uncomfortable to downright miserable. This,
plus the fact that I have always had other closed-cabin airplanes to
fly, has resulted in the limited air time of my Pietenpol. Nevertheless,
it has been in the family for a long time and I have many fond memories
of my kids riding in it when they were quite small. My dad was always
keen to climb into the front pit and go for a
=9Cfly=9D=94even when he was over 80 years old! My son
(now 51 years old) remembers going to a breakfast fly-in when he was
about 12 and figuring that we had really arrived in high society when we
landed on a paved runway! We have lots of good memories and lots of
photos to activate them.
I have always said that I would never sell my Pietenpol because it is an
old friend and it is one of the most satisfying things I have done
during a long life (I=99m in my 85th year). I still have a
=9CWag-A-Bond=9D to fly and, while it doesn=99t have
much of a cabin heater, it is still more comfortable than the Pietenpol
when the weather turns cool.
I flew it for the last time on Friday September 6, 2013 for 35 minutes.
It was a beautiful autumn evening, the air was smooth and we (the
Pietenpol and I) had a lovely flight. Another great memory...
Hopefully all you Pietenpol owners and builders out there will enjoy
your airplanes as much and for as long as I have enjoyed mine.
Graham Hansen Camrose, Alberta, Canada
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Subject: | Re: End of an era... |
Graham,
What a beautiful thing to say.
>I have always said that I would never sell my Pietenpol because it is
an old friend and it is one of the most satisfying things I have done
during a long life (I=99m in my 85th year).
Michael
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From: G Hansen
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: End of an era...
Hello Group,
This is to inform Pietenpol people everywhere that I have decided to
retire my Pietenpol CF-AUN after nearly 43 years of fun flying. It is
being donated to the Reynolds Alberta Museum at Wetaskiwin, Alberta,
Canada. It will be preserved and perhaps some day will be on display.
It has only 862 hours total time which is not very much when spread over
such a long period. Basically, at this latitude we have perhaps 5 months
per year that are reasonably comfortable for open cockpit airplanes; the
other 7 months range from uncomfortable to downright miserable. This,
plus the fact that I have always had other closed-cabin airplanes to
fly, has resulted in the limited air time of my Pietenpol. Nevertheless,
it has been in the family for a long time and I have many fond memories
of my kids riding in it when they were quite small. My dad was always
keen to climb into the front pit and go for a
=9Cfly=9D=94even when he was over 80 years old! My son
(now 51 years old) remembers going to a breakfast fly-in when he was
about 12 and figuring that we had really arrived in high society when we
landed on a paved runway! We have lots of good memories and lots of
photos to activate them.
I have always said that I would never sell my Pietenpol because it is an
old friend and it is one of the most satisfying things I have done
during a long life (I=99m in my 85th year). I still have a
=9CWag-A-Bond=9D to fly and, while it doesn=99t have
much of a cabin heater, it is still more comfortable than the Pietenpol
when the weather turns cool.
I flew it for the last time on Friday September 6, 2013 for 35 minutes.
It was a beautiful autumn evening, the air was smooth and we (the
Pietenpol and I) had a lovely flight. Another great memory...
Hopefully all you Pietenpol owners and builders out there will enjoy
your airplanes as much and for as long as I have enjoyed mine.
Graham Hansen Camrose, Alberta, Canada
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
09/12/13
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Subject: | Re: Wood relaxation |
Let me rephrase the question: "Why would anyone live in a place where you
can't fly all year?"
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Cardinal
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood relaxation
<gcardinal@comcast.net>
The "Fun Factor" disappears quickly when the temp drops below 50 F. I stand
in awe of the hardy individuals like Dick Navratil who fly year-round or Don
Emch who puts his Piet on skis.
I flew NX18235 on a 1 hour flight last November to it's winter home. The
temp was 42 F. It was a nice flight but I'm glad it wasn't any longer.
Greg Cardinal
[quote="kipandbeth(at)earthlink.n"]I grew up in MN & some years November
would have been kinda late to put a plane away for the winter.
Kip Gardner
On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Rick Holland wrote:
[quote]|>Why would you put an airplane away in November?
I think we would have to spend a winter in Minnesota to understand that.
rh
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
[quote]
Why would you put an airplane away in November?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
(owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
(owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Greg Cardinal
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:52 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com (pietenpol-list@matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Wood relaxation
The prop bolts on NX18235 would be loosened in November when it was put away
for the winter and then re-torqued during the annual condition inspection in
April. Always followed the Sensenich recommendations of 15-19 ft. lbs. for
AN6 bolts.
There was never a problem with it but last winter we installed belleville
spring washers per Marc Zeitlin's instructions that are attached.
It has been working great and I don't need to keep re-torquing the prop
bolts.
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
>
> ---
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Subject: | End of an era... |
Beautiful, Graham. Thanks for posting.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of G Hansen
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: End of an era...
Hello Group,
This is to inform Pietenpol people everywhere that I have decided to retire
my Pietenpol CF-AUN after nearly 43 years of fun flying. It is being donated
to the Reynolds Alberta Museum at Wetaskiwin, Alberta, Canada. It will be
preserved and perhaps some day will be on display.
It has only 862 hours total time which is not very much when spread over
such a long period. Basically, at this latitude we have perhaps 5 months per
year that are reasonably comfortable for open cockpit airplanes; the other 7
months range from uncomfortable to downright miserable. This, plus the fact
that I have always had other closed-cabin airplanes to fly, has resulted in
the limited air time of my Pietenpol. Nevertheless, it has been in the
family for a long time and I have many fond memories of my kids riding in it
when they were quite small. My dad was always keen to climb into the front
pit and go for a "fly"-even when he was over 80 years old! My son (now 51
years old) remembers going to a breakfast fly-in when he was about 12 and
figuring that we had really arrived in high society when we landed on a
paved runway! We have lots of good memories and lots of photos to activate
them.
I have always said that I would never sell my Pietenpol because it is an old
friend and it is one of the most satisfying things I have done during a long
life (I'm in my 85th year). I still have a "Wag-A-Bond" to fly and, while it
doesn't have much of a cabin heater, it is still more comfortable than the
Pietenpol when the weather turns cool.
I flew it for the last time on Friday September 6, 2013 for 35 minutes. It
was a beautiful autumn evening, the air was smooth and we (the Pietenpol and
I) had a lovely flight. Another great memory...
Hopefully all you Pietenpol owners and builders out there will enjoy your
airplanes as much and for as long as I have enjoyed mine.
Graham Hansen Camrose, Alberta, Canada
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Subject: | Re: Wood relaxation |
Why fly in winter? You have to try it to answer that question. The air is
very amooth and the ice on lakes gives you lots of emergency landing strips.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:24 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood relaxation
> <gcardinal@comcast.net>
>
> The "Fun Factor" disappears quickly when the temp drops below 50 F. I
> stand in awe of the hardy individuals like Dick Navratil who fly
> year-round or Don Emch who puts his Piet on skis.
> I flew NX18235 on a 1 hour flight last November to it's winter home. The
> temp was 42 F. It was a nice flight but I'm glad it wasn't any longer.
>
> Greg Cardinal
>
> [quote="kipandbeth(at)earthlink.n"]I grew up in MN & some years November
> would have been kinda late to put a plane away for the winter.
>
> Kip Gardner
>
> On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Rick Holland wrote:
> [quote]|>Why would you put an airplane away in November?
>
> I think we would have to spend a winter in Minnesota to understand that.
>
>
> rh
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> [quote]
> Why would you put an airplane away in November?
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> (owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com)
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> (owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Greg Cardinal
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:52 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com (pietenpol-list@matronics.com)
> Subject: Re: Wood relaxation
>
>
> The prop bolts on NX18235 would be loosened in November when it was put
> away for the winter and then re-torqued during the annual condition
> inspection in April. Always followed the Sensenich recommendations of
> 15-19 ft. lbs. for AN6 bolts.
>
> There was never a problem with it but last winter we installed belleville
> spring washers per Marc Zeitlin's instructions that are attached.
>
>
> It has been working great and I don't need to keep re-torquing the prop
> bolts.
>
>
> Greg Cardinal
>
> Minneapolis
>
>>
>> ---
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408522#408522
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: End of an era... |
Now THAT is inspiration.
Thank you .....!!!!!
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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