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1. 03:23 AM - Re: coaming and sharp edges (danhelsper@aol.com)
2. 04:29 AM - Re: coaming and sharp edges (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
3. 05:30 AM - Re: coaming and sharp edges (Rod Wooller)
4. 06:46 AM - Re: coaming and sharp edges (John Woods)
5. 09:09 AM - Re: coaming and sharp edges (taildrags)
6. 10:20 AM - Re: tailplane weights... (aerocarjake)
7. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: coaming and sharp edges (Rick Holland)
8. 11:10 AM - Re: Re: coaming and sharp edges (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
9. 11:43 AM - Re: Re: tailplane weights... (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB)
10. 03:06 PM - Re: coaming and sharp edges (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Re: coaming and sharp edges |
Here are some ideas to address that. Actually that part of it came from adv
ice from Jack Phillips.
http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/#/leather-coaming-padding/4541602921
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
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From: Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
Sent: Mon, Sep 16, 2013 1:45 am
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: coaming and sharp edges
1/4" hard translucent tubing splt. Another split tube over
that of thick hard rubber then your foam and cover.
Clif
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> As a friend was looking over my bird he made the following observations.
> "There sure are a lot of sharp edged with the aluminum. What happens if
> you crash?"
I know that I will cover the edges with foam and real simulated
leatherette. But the sharp edges could cut straight through that if I
planted my face against it at, Oh lets say 50 MPH!
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> Blue Skies,
> Steve D.
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| Subject: | coaming and sharp edges |
The smallest garden hose fits inside the hot water pipe insulation. That is
what is used on my Grega and what I plan to use on my Piet.
Skip
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> From: Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 9/16/2013 12:23:15 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: coaming and sharp edges
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<steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
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> As a friend was looking over my bird he made the following observations.
"There sure are a lot of sharp edged with the aluminum. What happens if you
crash?"
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> Granted he is a nervious nellie who is scared to eat at mom and pop
mexican cafes and will not go point into a windowless bar. BUT does he have
a point. As I am putting this back togather, I know that I will cover the
edges with foam and real simulated leatherette. But the sharp edges could
cut straight through that if I planted my face against it at, Oh lets say
50 MPH!
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> I have since thought of adding some small hard plastic trim to it. Any
other thoughts?
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> Blue Skies,
> Steve D.
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| Subject: | Re: coaming and sharp edges |
This was my overkill solution. Got a length of clear plastic tube about 3/8"
OD and split it lengthwise, filled it with silicon and stuck it over the
coaming edges. Then I added some of that foam rubber split hose plumbers use
to insulate copper hot water pipes. On top went the leatherette held on with
leather lacing. Seemed to work OK.
Rod ZK-PAC
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| Subject: | Re: coaming and sharp edges |
Hey Rod, how is your Piet performing?
Haven't heard from you in quite awhile.
Any photos or videos would be great to see and hear.
Are you happy with the Corvair?
John Woods
Western Australia
On 16 Sep 2013 20:29, "Rod Wooller" <rmwo@clear.net.nz> wrote:
> This was my overkill solution. Got a length of clear plastic tube about
> 3/8=94 OD and split it lengthwise, filled it with silicon and stuck it ov
er
> the coaming edges. Then I added some of that foam rubber split hose
> plumbers use to insulate copper hot water pipes. On top went the
> leatherette held on with leather lacing. Seemed to work OK.****
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| Subject: | Re: coaming and sharp edges |
>I have since thought of adding some small hard plastic trim to it.
>Any other thoughts?
Don't crash.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: tailplane weights... |
BTW, all those weights are the basic wood only - no hinges or control horns added
yet........
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: coaming and sharp edges |
And use a shoulder harness.
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:08 AM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >I have since thought of adding some small hard plastic trim to it.
> >Any other thoughts?
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> Don't crash.
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> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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> Read this topic online here:
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: coaming and sharp edges |
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I will move that forward in my order of options. So it is now ahead of "be tough!"
Steve D
On 09/16/13, taildrags wrote:
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> >I have since thought of adding some small hard plastic trim to it.
> >Any other thoughts?
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> Don't crash.
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> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: tailplane weights... |
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Dan, I hope that this does not offend as being too basic. I am sure that you know
these things. Remember, we are talking 19 pounds, a few pounds here and a
few pounds there and it all adds up. Here is the basic info that I learnt from
weighing my Vtail Bonanza:
There will be some difference, Throttle, and swich on left with steps and a map
case all on the left. Did you leave your Liquor bottle beside the seat on the
left?
Make sure the plane is really empty. A 3 pound coat laying on a wingtip can be
drastic.
Oil can be empty or at correct level. Just note which ever it is. Empty fuel is
best.
Ensure you are on a level surface. Seriously, use a level to check. a few degrees
can add up. Then make sure the plane is level, any lean is bad.
Callibrate and zero the scales and check them against each other. (Swap sides)
Hangar door should be closed. You can't have any wind. Even that light cooling
flow blowing over the walls from the neighbors hangar may push down on the tip
of one wing and lift on the other side.
Make sure nothing is touching the scales but the floor and the tire. Even a rock
under one edge of the scale can throw it off. your hambfisted hands can add
10 pounds without trying.
Dan, Just relating my experience with weighing my "real" plane.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On 09/15/13, danhelsper@aol.com wrote:
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> Here's a head scratcher. When weighing my plane NX929DH right before inspection
for flight, left wheel weighed 358 lbs. while the right weighed 339 lbs. That's
quite a difference I would say. What's on that side that is so heavy? Subtleties
in the Ford? At the time I had the side-driven mag on that side, but that
doesn't account for all that weight. Never really figured it out.
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> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
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> From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
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> Sent: Sun, Sep 15, 2013 4:34 pm
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: tailplane weights...
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> ... left and right rudders? B-24? Ercoupe?
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> > Yep, must be the satcom antenna that makes one side heavy....?!? I'm guessing
it is the wood density as well somehow. It's all a mystery as the left and
right rudders both weigh the same.... :-)
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| Subject: | Re: coaming and sharp edges |
Steve;
Seriously, it's good that you're thinking about these things. When Scout went
over on its back in the landing gear collapse, Charlie's forehead impacted the
instrument panel upon impact. This buried the ignition key in his forehead,
or tried to. The key broke off, so I guess Charlie's head was harder than the
key, but it left his face a bruised mess for a couple of weeks and the cut dripped
blood on the underside of the centersection when the plane came to rest
inverted.
Just something else to think about... protrusions from the panel.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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