---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/16/13: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:23 AM - Re: coaming and sharp edges (danhelsper@aol.com) 2. 04:29 AM - Re: coaming and sharp edges (skipgadd@earthlink.net) 3. 05:30 AM - Re: coaming and sharp edges (Rod Wooller) 4. 06:46 AM - Re: coaming and sharp edges (John Woods) 5. 09:09 AM - Re: coaming and sharp edges (taildrags) 6. 10:20 AM - Re: tailplane weights... (aerocarjake) 7. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: coaming and sharp edges (Rick Holland) 8. 11:10 AM - Re: Re: coaming and sharp edges (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 9. 11:43 AM - Re: Re: tailplane weights... (Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB) 10. 03:06 PM - Re: coaming and sharp edges (taildrags) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:23:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: coaming and sharp edges From: danhelsper@aol.com Here are some ideas to address that. Actually that part of it came from adv ice from Jack Phillips. http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/#/leather-coaming-padding/4541602921 Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Clif Dawson Sent: Mon, Sep 16, 2013 1:45 am Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: coaming and sharp edges 1/4" hard translucent tubing splt. Another split tube over that of thick hard rubber then your foam and cover. Clif > UNCLASSIFIED > As a friend was looking over my bird he made the following observations. > "There sure are a lot of sharp edged with the aluminum. What happens if > you crash?" I know that I will cover the edges with foam and real simulated leatherette. But the sharp edges could cut straight through that if I planted my face against it at, Oh lets say 50 MPH! > > Blue Skies, > Steve D. > UNCLASSIFIED ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:29:30 AM PST US From: "skipgadd@earthlink.net" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: coaming and sharp edges The smallest garden hose fits inside the hot water pipe insulation. That is what is used on my Grega and what I plan to use on my Piet. Skip > [Original Message] > From: Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB > To: > Date: 9/16/2013 12:23:15 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: coaming and sharp edges > > > UNCLASSIFIED > As a friend was looking over my bird he made the following observations. "There sure are a lot of sharp edged with the aluminum. What happens if you crash?" > > Granted he is a nervious nellie who is scared to eat at mom and pop mexican cafes and will not go point into a windowless bar. BUT does he have a point. As I am putting this back togather, I know that I will cover the edges with foam and real simulated leatherette. But the sharp edges could cut straight through that if I planted my face against it at, Oh lets say 50 MPH! > > I have since thought of adding some small hard plastic trim to it. Any other thoughts? > > > Blue Skies, > Steve D. > UNCLASSIFIED > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:04 AM PST US From: Rod Wooller Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: coaming and sharp edges This was my overkill solution. Got a length of clear plastic tube about 3/8" OD and split it lengthwise, filled it with silicon and stuck it over the coaming edges. Then I added some of that foam rubber split hose plumbers use to insulate copper hot water pipes. On top went the leatherette held on with leather lacing. Seemed to work OK. Rod ZK-PAC ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: coaming and sharp edges From: John Woods Hey Rod, how is your Piet performing? Haven't heard from you in quite awhile. Any photos or videos would be great to see and hear. Are you happy with the Corvair? John Woods Western Australia On 16 Sep 2013 20:29, "Rod Wooller" wrote: > This was my overkill solution. Got a length of clear plastic tube about > 3/8=94 OD and split it lengthwise, filled it with silicon and stuck it ov er > the coaming edges. Then I added some of that foam rubber split hose > plumbers use to insulate copper hot water pipes. On top went the > leatherette held on with leather lacing. Seemed to work OK.**** > > ** ** > > Rod ZK-PAC**** > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:09:37 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: coaming and sharp edges From: "taildrags" >I have since thought of adding some small hard plastic trim to it. >Any other thoughts? Don't crash. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408675#408675 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:03 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: tailplane weights... From: "aerocarjake" BTW, all those weights are the basic wood only - no hinges or control horns added yet........ -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408684#408684 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:47 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: coaming and sharp edges From: Rick Holland And use a shoulder harness. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:08 AM, taildrags wrote: > > >I have since thought of adding some small hard plastic trim to it. > >Any other thoughts? > > Don't crash. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408675#408675 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:10:54 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: coaming and sharp edges UNCLASSIFIED I will move that forward in my order of options. So it is now ahead of "be tough!" Steve D On 09/16/13, taildrags wrote: > > >I have since thought of adding some small hard plastic trim to it. > >Any other thoughts? > > Don't crash. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408675#408675 > > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:59 AM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: tailplane weights... UNCLASSIFIED Dan, I hope that this does not offend as being too basic. I am sure that you know these things. Remember, we are talking 19 pounds, a few pounds here and a few pounds there and it all adds up. Here is the basic info that I learnt from weighing my Vtail Bonanza: There will be some difference, Throttle, and swich on left with steps and a map case all on the left. Did you leave your Liquor bottle beside the seat on the left? Make sure the plane is really empty. A 3 pound coat laying on a wingtip can be drastic. Oil can be empty or at correct level. Just note which ever it is. Empty fuel is best. Ensure you are on a level surface. Seriously, use a level to check. a few degrees can add up. Then make sure the plane is level, any lean is bad. Callibrate and zero the scales and check them against each other. (Swap sides) Hangar door should be closed. You can't have any wind. Even that light cooling flow blowing over the walls from the neighbors hangar may push down on the tip of one wing and lift on the other side. Make sure nothing is touching the scales but the floor and the tire. Even a rock under one edge of the scale can throw it off. your hambfisted hands can add 10 pounds without trying. Dan, Just relating my experience with weighing my "real" plane. Blue Skies, Steve D On 09/15/13, danhelsper@aol.com wrote: > > Here's a head scratcher. When weighing my plane NX929DH right before inspection for flight, left wheel weighed 358 lbs. while the right weighed 339 lbs. That's quite a difference I would say. What's on that side that is so heavy? Subtleties in the Ford? At the time I had the side-driven mag on that side, but that doesn't account for all that weight. Never really figured it out. > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Bickers > To: pietenpol-list > Sent: Sun, Sep 15, 2013 4:34 pm > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: tailplane weights... > > ... left and right rudders? B-24? Ercoupe? > > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 2:58 PM, aerocarjake wrote: > > > > > Yep, must be the satcom antenna that makes one side heavy....?!? I'm guessing it is the wood density as well somehow. It's all a mystery as the left and right rudders both weigh the same.... :-) > > > > -------- > > Jake Schultz - curator, > > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408632#408632(blockedhttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408632#408632) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List(blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) > > ========== > > http://forums.matronics.com(blockedhttp://forums.matronics.com) > > ========== > > le, List Admin. > > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution(blockedhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution) > > ========== > > > > > > > > > > > > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:06:53 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: coaming and sharp edges From: "taildrags" Steve; Seriously, it's good that you're thinking about these things. When Scout went over on its back in the landing gear collapse, Charlie's forehead impacted the instrument panel upon impact. This buried the ignition key in his forehead, or tried to. The key broke off, so I guess Charlie's head was harder than the key, but it left his face a bruised mess for a couple of weeks and the cut dripped blood on the underside of the centersection when the plane came to rest inverted. Just something else to think about... protrusions from the panel. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408696#408696 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.