---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/22/13: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:43 AM - =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:__4.jpg_640=C3-480_pixels? (Jack) 2. 08:10 AM - Re: 4.jpg =?ISO-8859-1?Q?640=C3?=-480 pixels (ChiefH) 3. 08:12 AM - =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:__4.jpg_640=D7480_pixels? (Gary Boothe) 4. 11:17 AM - Re: 4.jpg =?ISO-8859-1?Q?640=C3?=-480 pixels (taildrags) 5. 11:23 AM - Re: 4.jpg =?ISO-8859-1?Q?640=C3?=-480 pixels (biplan53) 6. 12:33 PM - =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:__4.jpg_640=C3-480_pixels? (Mike McGowan) 7. 05:17 PM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__4.jpg_640=C3=83-480_pixels? (Jack) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:58 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Pietenpol-List:_4.jpg_640=C3-480_pixels? That makes sense... Jack Textor Des Moines, IA -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jarheadpilot82 Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:44 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 4.jpg 640480 pixels Jack, If that is the primer it could be the builder installed that way for hand propping. I saw Peter Wright's Pietenpol in the U.K., and he had a primer set up in a similar way for that reason. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408968#408968 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 4.jpg =?ISO-8859-1?Q?640=C3?=-480 pixels From: "ChiefH" Gentlemen, The picture is of N4089P, built by Dave Adams, based at KGWW. I purchased it in somewhat flying condition and have spent many hours making it my own. Mostly minor mods such as installing a handheld radio bracket and putting a PTT in the stick. As to the speculation: The engine is a Franklin 4AC-199E, 90hp. Electric start, though no electric system. The black box low down behind the engine is a battery that takes ground power to charge and is used to start the engine and operate the handheld. A full charge will crank the engine more times than I have had need of as yet. The brake pedal thing is, in fact, a brake pedal thing. Operated by cable to heel brakes. There are two independent brake systems, right and left. There is no fuel primer system. The carb has an accelerator pump that does the job nicely. The wing is a Clark Y. The only "lead in the tail" is in the pilots tail. She balances nicely on the ground but I am told it is a "little" nose heavy in flight. I have not taken it up myself but hope to get a test pilot to take it up for me soon and do the initial evaluation of the rigging. I had to take the wings off to transport it to its current location and being a low time Sport Pilot with no time in a Piet, I thought it prudent to have a test pilot do an evaluation for me. Volunteers? Any and all questions will be answered to the best of my limited ability. -------- Glenn Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408980#408980 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sky_scout_308.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:57 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Pietenpol-List:_4.jpg_640=D7480_pixels? Just guessing. Those appear to be hydraulic lines, going to the wheels, not primer lines going to the intakes. Who knows why someone would do such a thing, but I have heard pilots say that they do not like hydraulics in the cabin, or cockpit. Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 4.jpg 640480 pixels I'm not sure and Gary I wonder why it would be set up that way... Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Sep 21, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "biplan53" wrote: > --> > > Jack, I wonder if it is a primer for the fuel system? > > -------- > Building steel fuselage aircamper. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408950#408950 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:17:00 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 4.jpg =?ISO-8859-1?Q?640=C3?=-480 pixels From: "taildrags" Based at KGWW... Goldsboro, North Carolina. You have some experienced Piet pilots in your region, and my guess is that one of them would be willing to test your airplane. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408990#408990 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 4.jpg =?ISO-8859-1?Q?640=C3?=-480 pixels From: "biplan53" I stand corrected!! I thought it had to pump something, never thought someone would put master cylinder on other side of firewall. -------- Building steel fuselage aircamper. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408991#408991 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:07 PM PST US From: "Mike McGowan" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Pietenpol-List:_4.jpg_640=C3-480_pixels? Maybe it is set up to hold the brakes while propping from behind the propeller. Mike McGowan -----Original Message----- From: biplan53 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 4.jpg 640-480 pixels I stand corrected!! I thought it had to pump something, never thought someone would put master cylinder on other side of firewall. -------- Building steel fuselage aircamper. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408991#408991 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:07 PM PST US Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Pietenpol-List:_4.jpg_640=C3=83-480_pixels? From: Jack Nice Ship Glenn, good luck... Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2013, at 10:09 AM, "ChiefH" wrote: > > Gentlemen, > > The picture is of N4089P, built by Dave Adams, based at KGWW. > > I purchased it in somewhat flying condition and have spent many hours making it my own. Mostly minor mods such as installing a handheld radio bracket and putting a PTT in the stick. > > As to the speculation: > > The engine is a Franklin 4AC-199E, 90hp. Electric start, though no electric system. The black box low down behind the engine is a battery that takes ground power to charge and is used to start the engine and operate the handheld. A full charge will crank the engine more times than I have had need of as yet. > > The brake pedal thing is, in fact, a brake pedal thing. Operated by cable to heel brakes. There are two independent brake systems, right and left. > > There is no fuel primer system. The carb has an accelerator pump that does the job nicely. > > The wing is a Clark Y. > > The only "lead in the tail" is in the pilots tail. She balances nicely on the ground but I am told it is a "little" nose heavy in flight. I have not taken it up myself but hope to get a test pilot to take it up for me soon and do the initial evaluation of the rigging. I had to take the wings off to transport it to its current location and being a low time Sport Pilot with no time in a Piet, I thought it prudent to have a test pilot do an evaluation for me. Volunteers? > > Any and all questions will be answered to the best of my limited ability. > > -------- > Glenn > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408980#408980 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/sky_scout_308.jpg > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.