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1. 05:37 AM - Autumn Flt (TriScout)
2. 06:00 AM - side project (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 06:02 AM - Re: Autumn Flt (AircamperN11MS)
4. 06:04 AM - Re: Autumn Flt (bdewenter)
5. 06:21 AM - Re: side project (Gary Boothe)
6. 07:05 AM - Re: Aluminum Strut Material - FREE (AircamperN11MS)
7. 07:10 AM - Re: Re: Aluminum Strut Material - FREE (Gary Boothe)
8. 07:11 AM - Re: Aluminum Strut Material - FREE (AircamperN11MS)
9. 09:49 AM - any aerodynamicists out there? (Douwe Blumberg)
10. 10:24 AM - Re: side project (Don Emch)
11. 10:25 AM - Re: Propeller (danhelsper@aol.com)
12. 12:05 PM - Re: Autumn Flt (Jim Boyer)
13. 12:28 PM - Re: Autumn Flt (AircamperN11MS)
14. 01:04 PM - Re: just right--- 85 years running (regchief)
15. 01:13 PM - Re: Re: just right--- 85 years running (Ken Bickers)
16. 04:15 PM - Re: Re: just right--- 85 years running (Rick Holland)
17. 05:27 PM - Re: side project (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
18. 08:30 PM - Re: side project (dwilson)
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It was an awesome day in Texas for flying the GN-1. It will be all week. I got
this close up of a buzzard off my wing tip..
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KLNC
A65-8
N2308C
AN Hardware
Airframe 724TT
W72CK-42 Sensenich
Standard Factory GN-1
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Hey all,
For fun, I'm building an experimental high-mileage vehicle. It'll be a
motor powered recumbent trike type of thing with an aerodynamic fairing.
I'm trying to figure out a simple, low profile front suspension (two
steering wheels in front). The thing won't go faster than 50mpg so it
doesn't need to be great, just sturdy.
I got to thinking of a flat spring aluminum plate that would have some
spring in it, kind of like a Cessna gear and wondered if anyone knew
anything about how to get spring temper in a thick aluminum plate/bar?
Douwe
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He probably thought you were his mommy flying around. He kinda looks lost.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Buzzard? Shoot, where I come from we call them critters "mosquitoes"
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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=93I knew a guy=85=94
Seriously, I knew a guy who was building a Zenith 601 HDS and modifying
the
plans gear to an aluminum spring gear=85like a Cessna. He used =BD=94
6061 and
merely bent it in a press. He flew off the Phase 1 testing, but sold the
plane sometime after that. All was working good when he sold it. He
claimed
that there was no heat treating and that the gear merely relies on its
mass
to withstand any landing pressures.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:01 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: side project
Hey all,
For fun, I=92m building an experimental high-mileage vehicle. It=92ll
be a
motor powered recumbent trike type of thing with an aerodynamic fairing.
I=92m trying to figure out a simple, low profile front suspension (two
steering wheels in front). The thing won=92t go faster than 50mpg so it
doesn=92t need to be great, just sturdy.
I got to thinking of a flat spring aluminum plate that would have some
spring in it, kind of like a Cessna gear and wondered if anyone knew
anything about how to get spring temper in a thick aluminum plate/bar?
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Strut Material - FREE |
Really Gary,
No questions??? I will try anyway. What is the current wingspan on your Pietenpol?
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Strut Material - FREE |
It is currently 29', but I have a wing stretcher employed and hope to gain
another foot or so...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
AircamperN11MS
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:05 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminum Strut Material - FREE
--> <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
Really Gary,
No questions??? I will try anyway. What is the current wingspan on your
Pietenpol?
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Strut Material - FREE |
I couldn't resist and knew you had the answer? Have a great day.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | any aerodynamicists out there? |
Hey,
I have some aerodynamic questions about my new project and know we have a
few very knowledgeable aerodynamicists out there.
Would anyone with specialized knowledge contact me offline so I could run my
quandries by an expert?
Thanks!!
Douwe
douweblumberg@earthlink.net
805 573 3564 cell in KY
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| Subject: | Re: side project |
Douwe,
I've had an interest in something like that too. Check out www.cyclekarts.com. Those guys use horse buggy seat springs that are available online. Steel, but should be fairly lightweight.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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He is fast.....very fast!
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:43 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Propeller
Gary,
How fast do you carve those props? Is your plane back together already?
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:01 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Jim,
For either show, or actual use, you could do either =C2=BE=9D or =C2
=BD=9D laminations. =C2=BD=9D or smaller may look better. Board
s of any grain pattern will work. Attached image is of #4, for my Piet, and
is =C2=BD=9D laminations of poplar.
Gary Boothe
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t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Birke
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:52 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Propeller
We are building an air camper for display only and are thinking of building
our own propeller. It would probably be made of clear white pine. Has anyo
ne posted a drawing showing the shape of the laminations required to to lay
on up or, is there a site that I can go to to find this information?
Thanks. Jim Birke
Niagara Frontier Vintage Aircraft Group
Niagara Falls NY.
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You must have been trying to pass him from that look he gave you.
Jim
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I don't know how I missed the obvious? Where did you find the Black and White
film?
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: just right--- 85 years running |
Who is going to be flying out of meadowlake, Ken, or Rick. Either way, I would
love to see a Piet fly, and I am in Pueblo. Shoot me a line if you could.
Kelly
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| Subject: | Re: just right--- 85 years running |
Kelly, I'm based in Longmont. I'm several months, maybe more, from being
ready to fly mine. Rick's Piet is based in Meadow Lake. He's received his
paperwork. I don't know how close he is to actually flying. There's also
Jack Griener's Piet based at the Antique Airfield just outside of Longmont.
I haven't seen that one fly for awhile, but I know there are at least a
couple of people flying it occasionally. Cheers, Ken
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:04 PM, regchief <kbosley@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Who is going to be flying out of meadowlake, Ken, or Rick. Either way, I
> would love to see a Piet fly, and I am in Pueblo. Shoot me a line if you
> could.
>
> Kelly
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| Subject: | Re: just right--- 85 years running |
Kelly
I am at Meadow Lake and just got my AW, ain't flying yet, just taxiing
around and getting ready for the first. Can come up to check it out and
talk anytime.
rick holland
at7000ft@gmail.com
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:04 PM, regchief <kbosley@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Who is going to be flying out of meadowlake, Ken, or Rick. Either way, I
> would love to see a Piet fly, and I am in Pueblo. Shoot me a line if you
> could.
>
> Kelly
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: side project |
Google =9COptima Rhino=9D for a trike front suspension using
a pivot and cane creek shock absorbers. I know its not what you were
asking, but Grove Aircraft might be a source of info. Also, the PDQ-2
airplane which was designed by Wayne Ison in the 70=99s was a
square 2=9D aluminum tube ultralight before there were such
things, used a bent flat spring of 6061 T6 aluminum which was about
3/4=9D thick. Hope this helps. By the way, Rich Richardson used to
build an aluminum trike, the design is now being made available by
googleing Rontor trikes for spindle designs.
Dennis
From: Douwe Blumberg
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:01 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: side project
Hey all,
For fun, I=99m building an experimental high-mileage vehicle.
It=99ll be a motor powered recumbent trike type of thing with an
aerodynamic fairing.
I=99m trying to figure out a simple, low profile front suspension
(two steering wheels in front). The thing won=99t go faster than
50mpg so it doesn=99t need to be great, just sturdy.
I got to thinking of a flat spring aluminum plate that would have some
spring in it, kind of like a Cessna gear and wondered if anyone knew
anything about how to get spring temper in a thick aluminum plate/bar?
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: side project |
Douwe,
Read your post and the image that jumped into my mind was the three wheel Vespa.
Check out vespausa.com and look at the independent front suspension on their
three wheeler. Way Cool !
Dan
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