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1. 05:41 AM - discolor-ation (TriScout)
2. 05:44 AM - Re: steel tube fuselage tacked (jarheadpilot82)
3. 06:11 AM - Re: Re: Mitchell airspeed ind. (Chuck Campbell)
4. 06:22 AM - Re: discolor-ation (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
5. 06:30 AM - Re: discolor-ation (AircamperN11MS)
6. 07:40 AM - Re: Mitchell airspeed ind. (jarheadpilot82)
7. 07:46 AM - Re: Re: discolor-ation (Michael Perez)
8. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: Mitchell airspeed ind. ()
9. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: discolor-ation (Jack Phillips)
10. 09:40 AM - Re: Re: A modest proposal (Rick Holland)
11. 10:04 AM - Re: Re: A modest proposal (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
12. 10:23 AM - Re: Re: A modest proposal (Ken Bickers)
13. 12:55 PM - Re: discolor-ation (TriScout)
14. 01:19 PM - Engine out.. again (bender)
15. 01:30 PM - Re: Engine out.. again (taildrags)
16. 01:32 PM - Re: Engine out.. again (Rick Holland)
17. 01:38 PM - Re: Re: A modest proposal (l.morlock)
18. 01:50 PM - Re: discolor-ation (AircamperN11MS)
19. 02:11 PM - Re: Engine out.. again (bender)
20. 02:57 PM - Re: Engine out.. again (BYD)
21. 03:31 PM - Re: Re: discolor-ation (Rick Holland)
22. 04:17 PM - Engine Selection (Mike Salerno)
23. 04:34 PM - Re: Engine Selection (Rick Holland)
24. 04:56 PM - new guy (aviken)
25. 05:10 PM - Re: Re: discolor-ation (Fastnaught John)
26. 05:49 PM - Re: Engine Selection (randy cary)
27. 10:36 PM - Re: Re: Engine out.. again (Gerry Holland)
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I've noticed lately that the right gear attracts soot or exhaust dust after flights.
I've noticed this over the previous 10hrs. It does wipe off easily. I am
concerned about exhaust heat on leading edge of said gear fabric. I put my hand
on the rear strut inflight (as pictured), and it feels about like 80 degrees
in the wake.
The exhaust/engine/landing gear is standard J3 Cub. Perhaps someone with a Cub,
or similarly configured GN-1 could shed some light on it. Is this a real concern?
Maybe I could just ad a metal shroud on leading edge of gear fabrique..
Lerrr
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| Subject: | Re: steel tube fuselage tacked |
Looks great , Paul. I am supposed to be getting a door cut in the front cockpit
of my fuselage. I will post pictures once it happens. I will post weight as well.
One question - bungees, die spring or straight axle gear?
Supposed to pick it up at Barnwell in November.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Mitchell airspeed ind. |
Man=2C I would certainly like to see an airspeed indicator that operates of
f a Venturi. I've been flying since 1943 and have never heard of such a de
vice. C
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mitchell airspeed ind.
> From: taildrags@hotmail.com
> Date: Thu=2C 26 Sep 2013 15:42:42 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> More on this interesting question! It turns out that the sailplane peopl
e use this type of airspeed indicator as well (venturi operated)=2C and Win
ter is a well-known brand of this instrument. Here's a link:
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> http://www.winter-instruments.de/english/
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> So here is the problem. I see under Technical Data that the instrument i
s one weight if it comes with a "Pitot" and another weight if it comes with
a "Venturi". The implication is that the instrument can be used with eith
er a Pitot and Static configuration=2C or with a Venturi and Static port.
However=2C the document does not specifically say that=2C nor does it go in
to detail about the configuration using the venturi. it would take some te
sting to get it properly configured. This is actually an instrument design
ed for use in a glider or sail plane.
>
> Note that a conventional pitot (ram) air airspeed indicator such as the A
-066-000 from Wag-Aero costs about $130 and is good for up to 120MPH. I'm
sure there are other=2C equally affordable sources. However=2C if the writ
er is set on using the vacuum instrument=2C then carry on!
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| Subject: | Re: discolor-ation |
I personally think it looks cool!
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| Subject: | Re: discolor-ation |
I wouldn't worry about it at all. In fact the fabric on the belly of the plane
probably sees more heat. Mt landing gear paint is discolored from exhaust heat
(not soot). Think of it this way. Fabric planes sit outside in the 110degree
desert for years without fabric issues. If you have some soot on the gear
legs then I would guess that your engine may be idling a little rich or you are
taxing back to the hangar with the carb heat on. The carb heat makes the engine
run rich.
My 3 cents, Don't worry about it.
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Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Mitchell airspeed ind. |
Chuck,
I have been flying 32 years and had never heard of it either, but here ya go-
http://airandspace.si.edu/collections/artifact.cfm?id=A19570800000
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: discolor-ation |
"I personally think it looks cool!"=0A=0AI agree, if there is no damage bei
ng done...=0A=0A-=0A=0AIf God is your co-pilot...switch seats.=0AMichael
Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AKaretaker Aero=0Awww.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Mitchell airspeed ind. |
you guys just arent old enouff ( doesnt that make you feel good??) I had
one on my t-craft a bug made a home in it and no air speed !! My instructer
made me fly around for a week just so I could get used to flying with out
that air speed gismo to look at all the time I did land a lot slower the ole
t craft was afloater but with out the air speed you slowed right down on the
finaal and put it on the numbers wait there wernt any numkbers in the
grass
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mitchell airspeed ind.
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Chuck,
I have been flying 32 years and had never heard of it either, but here ya
go-
http://airandspace.si.edu/collections/artifact.cfm?id=A19570800000
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Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: discolor-ation |
I agree with Scott. Besides, your exhaust looks to be about the same
distance from the gear strut as it is on a J-3 and they don't seem to have
issues with it.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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I wouldn't worry about it at all. In fact the fabric on the belly of the
plane probably sees more heat. Mt landing gear paint is discolored from
exhaust heat (not soot). Think of it this way. Fabric planes sit outside
in the 110degree desert for years without fabric issues. If you have some
soot on the gear legs then I would guess that your engine may be idling a
little rich or you are taxing back to the hangar with the carb heat on. The
carb heat makes the engine run rich.
My 3 cents, Don't worry about it.
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Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
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| Subject: | Re: A modest proposal |
Ken and I are "Out West" here in Colorado with our soon to fly Piets just
South of Cheyenne, WY where one of the main hubs for this was located.
Wonder if any of those cement arrows are somewhere in Eastern Wyoming,
would be fun to at least locate one and get some pictures with a Piet in
the background.
rick h
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:04 AM, tools <n0kkj@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> My dad sent me a link about the big concrete arrows not too long ago and I
> had the same idea.
>
> However, most of the arrows are gone from civilization... there's still a
> bunch of them in the boon docks, mostly out west from what I can gather. I
> was unable to really tell if it's documented well enough that the route
> could be flown anyway. Of course, much of it transverses airspace that I
> can't go without a transponder or radio...
>
> Anyway, I can fix, I can build, I can fly... but organization is NO WHERE
> to be found in anything about me... I got nothing. I would be interested
> in joining some sort of effort to fly legs, whatever. Help identify parts
> near where I live, or something.
>
> As soon as I learned about these things, I thought it would be so cool to
> fly that route. Sort of a route 66 for old airplanes sort of thing.
> Interested to see if there's much other interest.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A modest proposal |
There are several of those arrows here in Utah just north of SLC.
Brian
SLC-UT
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: A modest proposal
Ken and I are "Out West" here in Colorado with our soon to fly Piets
just South of Cheyenne, WY where one of the main hubs for this was
located. Wonder if any of those cement arrows are somewhere in Eastern
Wyoming, would be fun to at least locate one and get some pictures with
a Piet in the background.
rick h
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:04 AM, tools <n0kkj@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad sent me a link about the big concrete arrows not too long ago and
I had the same idea.
However, most of the arrows are gone from civilization... there's still
a bunch of them in the boon docks, mostly out west from what I can
gather. I was unable to really tell if it's documented well enough that
the route could be flown anyway. Of course, much of it transverses
airspace that I can't go without a transponder or radio...
Anyway, I can fix, I can build, I can fly... but organization is NO
WHERE to be found in anything about me... I got nothing. I would be
interested in joining some sort of effort to fly legs, whatever. Help
identify parts near where I live, or something.
As soon as I learned about these things, I thought it would be so cool
to fly that route. Sort of a route 66 for old airplanes sort of thing.
Interested to see if there's much other interest.
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| Subject: | Re: A modest proposal |
I may have to wander up to Cheyenne and head east toward North Platte to
see if I can find some of the arrows that might still be there. Maybe I
should have paid more attention in the past. Our regular flight path to
Brodhead turns out to have been fairly close to the old airmail route from
North Platte, to Omaha, and across Iowa. Cheers, Ken
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, <brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com> wrote:
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> Ken and I are "Out West" here in Colorado with our soon to fly Piets just
> South of Cheyenne, WY where one of the main hubs for this was located.
> Wonder if any of those cement arrows are somewhere in Eastern Wyoming,
> would be fun to at least locate one and get some pictures with a Piet in
> the background.****
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> My dad sent me a link about the big concrete arrows not too long ago and I
> had the same idea.
>
> However, most of the arrows are gone from civilization... there's still a
> bunch of them in the boon docks, mostly out west from what I can gather. I
> was unable to really tell if it's documented well enough that the route
> could be flown anyway. Of course, much of it transverses airspace that I
> can't go without a transponder or radio...
>
> Anyway, I can fix, I can build, I can fly... but organization is NO WHERE
> to be found in anything about me... I got nothing. I would be interested
> in joining some sort of effort to fly legs, whatever. Help identify parts
> near where I live, or something.
>
> As soon as I learned about these things, I thought it would be so cool to
> fly that route. Sort of a route 66 for old airplanes sort of thing.
> Interested to see if there's much other interest.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409253#409253
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| Subject: | Re: discolor-ation |
What concerns me, is that it used to not be there. I wonder what causes it to be
there w/in last 10 hrs. Maybe the next sortie.. I may tape a thermometer onto
leading edge of gear leg and see what it reads.
oil temp in flight seems steady at 165 deg during 3+ hrs flying yesterday...oil
pressure, nominal, etc.. so I don't think anything is happening internally on
the A65. I suppose I could just make peace with the idea that I could always
abandon the machine inflight if it ever decides to catch fire...no biggie
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| Subject: | Engine out.. again |
Ok. so I was told i'm only 7 landings away from a glider rating..
I flew today for the first time since my engine quit..
Lucky me... I was at pattern altitude this time.. just turned downwind.. lost power..
I cant imagine it was carb ice but that's my first guess at this point
the plugs are tan and beautiful ... I drain gas from the gascolator... looks great.
engine temps were good... oil pressure good...
the intake was warm after I landed... but it wasn't doing much for the glide ?
could have warmed a bit
temp was 80 dew point 52 wind calm humidity 37%
its getting old... landing on the taxiway and rolling right to the hangar was funny....
and the fireman at SDF were bored anyway.
jeff
I don't really want a continental
faith
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| Subject: | Re: Engine out.. again |
Jeff; that's got to ruin your day, although it's adding to your proficiency in
handling engine outage. FYI, check out this graph and plug in your ambient temp
of 80F and dew point of 52F:
http://www.kfackler.com/gtuf/carb_ice.html
In this case, the green region does NOT mean "you're safe". It says "serious icing
at glide power".
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| Subject: | Re: Engine out.. again |
Glad you got down ok, what engine is giving you the problems?
rh
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:18 PM, bender <jfaith@solairusaviation.com> wrote:
> jfaith@solairusaviation.com>
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> Ok. so I was told i'm only 7 landings away from a glider rating..
>
> I flew today for the first time since my engine quit..
> Lucky me... I was at pattern altitude this time.. just turned downwind..
> lost power.. I cant imagine it was carb ice but that's my first guess at
> this point
> the plugs are tan and beautiful ... I drain gas from the gascolator...
> looks great. engine temps were good... oil pressure good...
>
> the intake was warm after I landed... but it wasn't doing much for the
> glide ? could have warmed a bit
> temp was 80 dew point 52 wind calm humidity 37%
>
> its getting old... landing on the taxiway and rolling right to the hangar
> was funny.... and the fireman at SDF were bored anyway.
>
> jeff
> I don't really want a continental
> faith
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| Subject: | Re: A modest proposal |
We have three of these arrows in Southern Indiana marking a portion of
the route from Indianapolis to Cincinnati. One is on the field at
Shelbyville, IN (SHB).
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From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:04 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: A modest proposal
There are several of those arrows here in Utah just north of SLC.
Brian
SLC-UT
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:40 AM
To: pietenpol-list
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: A modest proposal
Ken and I are "Out West" here in Colorado with our soon to fly Piets
just South of Cheyenne, WY where one of the main hubs for this was
located. Wonder if any of those cement arrows are somewhere in Eastern
Wyoming, would be fun to at least locate one and get some pictures with
a Piet in the background.
rick h
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:04 AM, tools <n0kkj@yahoo.com> wrote:
My dad sent me a link about the big concrete arrows not too long ago
and I had the same idea.
However, most of the arrows are gone from civilization... there's
still a bunch of them in the boon docks, mostly out west from what I can
gather. I was unable to really tell if it's documented well enough that
the route could be flown anyway. Of course, much of it transverses
airspace that I can't go without a transponder or radio...
Anyway, I can fix, I can build, I can fly... but organization is NO
WHERE to be found in anything about me... I got nothing. I would be
interested in joining some sort of effort to fly legs, whatever. Help
identify parts near where I live, or something.
As soon as I learned about these things, I thought it would be so cool
to fly that route. Sort of a route 66 for old airplanes sort of thing.
Interested to see if there's much other interest.
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| Subject: | Re: discolor-ation |
Maybe it is just a light oil film from the breather. The cont. engines will push
out extra oil if you run them at the full mark. I usually run mine between
3 and 3.5 quarts to keep the mess to a minimum.
Oh, if your plane is covered with the Stitts / Poly Fiber it will not burn. Let
me rephrase that. It will burn if you hold a flame to it. When you take the
flame away it stops burning. If it is covered with dope, it could burn.
Food for thought.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Engine out.. again |
Model A Ford. .. I'm thinking I need some work on the carb heat box. .
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Engine out.. again |
Jeff,
Would describe how it quit? I mean could you tell it was coming or did it quit
suddenly? If slowly, how long from when you noticed RPM decrease until total
loss?
Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: discolor-ation |
Talking about burnability, has anyone with a Latex paint job done a test to
see how Dacron coated with Latex burns (or not)? I may have to try that.
rh
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:50 PM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>wrote:
> Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
>
> Maybe it is just a light oil film from the breather. The cont. engines
> will push out extra oil if you run them at the full mark. I usually run
> mine between 3 and 3.5 quarts to keep the mess to a minimum.
>
> Oh, if your plane is covered with the Stitts / Poly Fiber it will not
> burn. Let me rephrase that. It will burn if you hold a flame to it. When
> you take the flame away it stops burning. If it is covered with dope, it
> could burn.
>
> Food for thought.
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409375#409375
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Engine Selection |
Dear Group,
This is my first post to the list server. I am interested in building a Pietenpol
and am wondering what is the largest engine I could safely install? I assume
from reading, I will want to build a long fuselage version.
I have found a 140hp O-320 that I thought might be a good start to the project,
but I was wondering if something as large as 180hp 0-360 could safely be installed?
I had a Grumman AA-1 Yankee and with the 0-235 that was in it, the climb rate was
lethargic at best, especially on a hot Texas day. I'm looking for climb, not
top speed.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Sincerely,
Michael Salerno
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Selection |
An O-235 is the largest aircraft engine I have heard of in a Piet. Should
be plenty of power, at Broadhead you see 200+ pound guys giving rides to
200+ pounds passenger all the time with 40 HP Model-As and 65 HP C-65s.
(Unless you are flying out of 10,000 ft elevation airports).
rh
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Mike Salerno <mdsalern@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Group,
>
> This is my first post to the list server. I am interested in building a
> Pietenpol and am wondering what is the largest engine I could safely
> install? I assume from reading, I will want to build a long fuselage
> version.
>
> I have found a 140hp O-320 that I thought might be a good start to the
> project, but I was wondering if something as large as 180hp 0-360 could
> safely be installed?
>
> I had a Grumman AA-1 Yankee and with the 0-235 that was in it, the climb
> rate was lethargic at best, especially on a hot Texas day. I'm looking for
> climb, not top speed.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> Sincerely,
> Michael Salerno
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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hi everyone , new builder glad to be here
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| Subject: | Re: discolor-ation |
Scott,
I noticed that you have wire wheels. My Piet will also have them but I need tore-do
them Can you tell what rims you have and how many spoke, etc. My tires are
3X21". I appreciate the info.
Jack
airframe finished
Model A engine just rebuilt
ready to cover.
On Sep 27, 2013, at 4:50 PM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
>
> Maybe it is just a light oil film from the breather. The cont. engines will
push out extra oil if you run them at the full mark. I usually run mine between
3 and 3.5 quarts to keep the mess to a minimum.
>
> Oh, if your plane is covered with the Stitts / Poly Fiber it will not burn.
Let me rephrase that. It will burn if you hold a flame to it. When you take
the flame away it stops burning. If it is covered with dope, it could burn.
>
> Food for thought.
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409375#409375
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Engine Selection |
Lots of 100 hp Corvairs on Piets.
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Selection
From: at7000ft@gmail.com
An O-235 is the largest aircraft engine I have heard of in a Piet. Should b
e plenty of power=2C at Broadhead you see 200+ pound guys giving rides to 2
00+ pounds passenger all the time with 40 HP Model-As and 65 HP C-65s. (Unl
ess you are flying out of 10=2C000 ft elevation airports).=0A
rh
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Dear Group=2C=0A
This is my first post to the list server. I am interested in building a Pie
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I have found a 140hp O-320 that I thought might be a good start to the proj
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I had a Grumman AA-1 Yankee and with the 0-235 that was in it=2C the climb
rate was lethargic at best=2C especially on a hot Texas day. I'm looking fo
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Thanks in advance for the help.=0A
Sincerely=2C
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Michael Salerno
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Castle Rock=2C Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Engine out.. again |
Hi.
After a forced landing from climb out with A75 up front the Air Accident
Team included this graphic in the report of the case.
In essence their report and all other information they had on file
indicated carb ice could build in just about any sort of combination of
temperature, humidity and flight sector.
In my case after copious use of Carb Heat prior to take off and a full
power climb out I thought I would be immune but no.
A 500 foot take off at full power run over wet grass strip was perfect
for carb icing.
Take a look at your Carb heat setup and ensure it does what it's meant
to do.
Regards
Gerry
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