---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/17/13: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:03 AM - Re: Barnwell (bdewenter) 2. 06:16 AM - Re: Engine cowling and air flow (bdewenter) 3. 06:39 AM - An idiot redeemed, wheel lacing 101 (bdewenter) 4. 07:20 AM - Several items for sale (Barnwell Regional Airport) 5. 07:32 AM - Re: back in the air (Jerry Dotson) 6. 08:26 AM - Mystery plane and pilot () 7. 09:04 AM - Re: Mystery plane and pilot (AircamperN11MS) 8. 09:44 AM - Re: Jeep Engine (taildrags) 9. 12:48 PM - Re: Mystery plane and pilot (nightmare) 10. 12:50 PM - Re: Jeep Engine (nightmare) 11. 01:02 PM - wheel lacing 101 (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 12. 02:27 PM - Re: wheel lacing 101 (bdewenter) 13. 02:41 PM - Re: Mystery plane and pilot (dgaldrich) 14. 03:13 PM - Re: Mystery plane and pilot (jarheadpilot82) 15. 03:16 PM - Re: Jeep Engine (Michael Weston) 16. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: Mystery plane and pilot () 17. 03:22 PM - Mark Chouinard, you are famous! (jarheadpilot82) 18. 04:17 PM - Re: Jeep Engine (aviken) 19. 07:53 PM - Re: Mark Chouinard, you are famous! (K5YAC) 20. 09:37 PM - Re: Several items for sale (Bill Princell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:07 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Barnwell From: "bdewenter" I'm heading down again this year to "help" (yikes). This is my 4th visit to CC at Barnwell and will be my second as a graduate. Like others who have posted above, I enjoy the camaraderie of fellow builders and I like helping out the newcomers to College.. I also enjoy the folks at Barnwell who have been so nice to me personalty, and to all of us as a group. Since my brother and I have not had had much time together this year I'm bring him with me - (yikes x 2) Anyone flying in needing a car look for me or P.F. Beck, Tim, Don at the registration desk to get the keys. -------- Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter Dayton OH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410738#410738 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:20 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine cowling and air flow From: "bdewenter" Mario, William Wynn has written much about cooling and cowling on his site flycorvair.net. Even if you have a non corvair, it applies to all engines on planes like our Piets. google cowling cooling site:flycorvair.net to get a listing of articles such as this one http://flycorvair.net/2013/05/30/cooling-with-j-3-style-cowls-pietenpols-cubs-biplanes-etc/ Also, If you can get Tony Bingelis articles from EAA website or his books, its packed full of drawings and details about cowlings and cooling -------- Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter Dayton OH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410741#410741 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:56 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: An idiot redeemed, wheel lacing 101 From: "bdewenter" 48 spokes, 1 wheel and hub, 12 days, 20 attempts, 20 falures, 1 success at last. Backstory: Picked up two pairs of 19" aluminum wheels from a cycle boneyard in Cincinnati OH. One set went to Don Harper in Barnwell and in return he pressed bronze bearing into my hubs. The spokes were in terrible shape so i decided to replace them. Don did what smart people do - he cleaned his up and saved some money. Epilogue and lessons learned: -Buchanans Spokes and Rims in California is the place to get custom spokes and nipples from - they were great to work with. -You do not need to put all the spokes in the hub to begin with and in fact its best to leave one of the 4 "sets" out and put them in one at a time at the end. (this would be the "outer" spokes on the "away from your face" side of the hub.) - if not the "third" set can get "blocked". -Take the laptop with the "before" picture out to the workbench unless you need frequent exercise. -While not necessary, start near the valve stem hole as a reference point when duplicating the spoke pattern from the picture -Any 1/4" box wrench is a spoke wrench For those who noticed in the picture, the rattle can paint on the rims sucked - I scratched the he** out of it in those 20 failed attempts. If I did it right the first time, no scratches would have occurred. The paint will be removed and powder coat will go on. Anyone needing more details feel free to contact me rdewenter -at- woh.rr dot c o m -------- Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter Dayton OH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410744#410744 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/lacingbefore_large_273.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/laced_large_117.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:55 AM PST US From: "Barnwell Regional Airport" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Several items for sale Pietenpol builders, For those who might be interested in getting a "jump" start on their Piet project and plan to use the Riblet 612 airfoil, I have a set of Riblet 612 ribs and a complete center section including a professionally welded 17 gal aluminum fuel tank for sale. The above items will be in my hangar at the Barnwell airport [ KBNL ] for your inspection during the corvair college we will be hosting on November 8,9,10 The ribs will be $325 and the center section with tank will be $550 cash only. For more information or pictures, send me an e-mail at barnwellairport@bellsouth.net Looking forward to seeing many of you at the college. P. F. Beck ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: back in the air From: "Jerry Dotson" Well Bob the pictures of it sure look good. -------- Jerry Dotson First flight June 16,2012 Flying in phase 2 Lycoming O-235 C2C Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410747#410747 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:30 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mystery plane and pilot From: Does anyone recognize this plane. The GN-1 showed up at out little airport over the summer and has just been sitting. Looked up the N-number and who it was built by and registered too. Latest history was a guy in Washington and now it's in Utah. I am at the airport everyday and no one has ever seen the owner or pilot. Just curious..... Brian SLC-UT ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:01 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mystery plane and pilot From: "AircamperN11MS" Brian, I haven't seen that plane before. It has two different people on the registration. WHIDDEN CM and BOGGS JF . I wonder if either of those two live in your area. I also find it very strange that it is in the Exhibition Category. That means that whoever flies it needs to get approval from the FSDO office to take it anywhere. It is the same category that they (FSDO) typically put old war birds in. Have you checked with the FBO that is responsible for those tie down spots? They should know who is paying the tie down for it. I sure hope they get it indoors before the snow hits. The owner should provide sun glasses to anyone who looks at it. It has a very bright paint scheme. Good luck in your search and be sure to let us know what you find out. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410751#410751 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:34 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jeep Engine From: "taildrags" According to this site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willys_Go_Devil_engine , the engine put out its rated 60HP at 4000 RPM. However, like so many other things that have been around for a long time, there is a vast array of aftermarket parts and hop-ups that have been done to the engine. I have not heard of this one having been used on a Piet... yet. It wouldn't surprise me if it's been tried, though. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410755#410755 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:34 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mystery plane and pilot From: "nightmare" Maybe it is from that discovery channel show "airplane repo". Deadbeat owner cant make bank payments, and ingenious pilot sneaks into the airplane owner's secret hideaway to risk life and limb flying over mountains and getting shot at for a 25k payday and television glory. Just thinking out loud. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410763#410763 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:50:03 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jeep Engine From: "nightmare" If the 60hp is at 4, 000 , you would need a reduction drive. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410764#410764 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:02:13 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: wheel lacing 101 Bob---you did a beautiful job lacing your rims to your hubs and the result looks great. It was a little tedious getting the hang of lacing but once you get one wheel figured out the next wheel goes a lot faster. Guess that could be said for every duplicated part on the Pietenpol or any project with repetition. Second wing went together way easier and fas ter than the first wing....etc. Thanks for sharing the photos! Mike C. in Ohio ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:27:33 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: wheel lacing 101 From: "bdewenter" Here is a "before" shot... -------- Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter Dayton OH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410774#410774 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/oldandugly_624.jpg ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:41:19 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mystery plane and pilot From: "dgaldrich" The FAA has loosened the requirements of "Exhibition" category. You no longer have to get permission for each "event" separately. You can send in one list at the beginning of the year, list everywhere you think you might ever go, and that's it. Not nearly as onerous a category as it used to be. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410775#410775 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:13:15 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mystery plane and pilot From: "jarheadpilot82" I saw this airplane about a month ago while on a layover in SLC. I went over with Brian to look at it. The pictures do not do it justice. IT IS ROUGH!! I am not sure how the guy even ferried it. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410778#410778 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:16:44 PM PST US From: Michael Weston Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jeep Engine hi piet people, which jeep engine? the 134 cu in flathead go-devil? the 150 overhead valve GM engine? cuz the latter engine has been used in a piet already i think the "poplar piet" used one. in any case please toss what you have on a scale and get back to the list with model & weight also state please things like whether it has carbs,flywheel,ect. i'm really curious. any info is good info. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:21:33 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mystery plane and pilot From: Good times spent with Terry Hand on that trip.... Looking forward to your next visit Terry. Yes it looks better in the pictures. Brian SlC-UT -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jarheadpilot82 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:13 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mystery plane and pilot --> I saw this airplane about a month ago while on a layover in SLC. I went over with Brian to look at it. The pictures do not do it justice. IT IS ROUGH!! I am not sure how the guy even ferried it. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410778#410778 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:22:18 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mark Chouinard, you are famous! From: "jarheadpilot82" Mark just was given a nice write up on William Wynne's Blog, www.flycorvair.net. If you want to see a nice picture of Mark's workmanship, go take a look there. Thought I would pass it along to the non-Corvair types. Nice workmanship, Mark. You motivated me to get some work done on my project as soon as I get home. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410781#410781 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:17:15 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jeep Engine From: "aviken" The Jeep engine I had in mind was the flathead model that came in about a 1947 mod jeep that we owned at one time. It was an old ex military jeep. I also have similar jeep with the same motor in it now. I was just curious if anyone had tried to make them work. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410785#410785 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:53:48 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mark Chouinard, you are famous! From: "K5YAC" Thanks Terry... I hope to get out there and get some work done this weekend. -------- Mark Chouinard Wings, Center Section and Empannage and Fuse framed up - Working on Landing Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410789#410789 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:56 PM PST US From: Bill Princell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Several items for sale If someone buys the ribs and wants the center section w/out the fuel tank, I'm interested in the tank, depending of course on how it's priced if sold separate. Bill - On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Barnwell Regional Airport < barnwellairport@bellsouth.net> wrote: > ** > Pietenpol builders, > > For those who might be interested in getting a "jump" start on their Piet > project and plan to use the Riblet 612 airfoil, I have a set of Riblet 612 > ribs and a complete center section including a professionally welded 17 gal > aluminum fuel tank for sale. > > The above items will be in my hangar at the Barnwell airport [ KBNL ] > for your inspection during the corvair college we will be hosting on > November 8,9,10 > > The ribs will be $325 and the center section with tank will be $550 cash > only. > > For more information or pictures, send me an e-mail at > barnwellairport@bellsouth.net > > Looking forward to seeing many of you at the college. > > P. F. 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