Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 10/23/13


Total Messages Posted: 41



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     1. 03:37 AM - Re: Re: A-65 Breather Tube Exhaust (Michael Perez)
     2. 04:49 AM - Re: Fabric finale (danhelsper@aol.com)
     3. 04:52 AM - Re: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help (danhelsper@aol.com)
     4. 05:08 AM - Re: Fabric finale (Mark Stanley)
     5. 06:33 AM - Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help (Bill Church)
     6. 06:46 AM - Re: Fabric finale (Ken Bickers)
     7. 07:08 AM - Perseverance... (Dan Yocum)
     8. 07:14 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Gary Boothe)
     9. 07:27 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Michael Perez)
    10. 07:38 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Mario Giacummo)
    11. 08:02 AM - Re: Perseverance... (AircamperN11MS)
    12. 08:08 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Jack)
    13. 08:15 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Jack Phillips)
    14. 08:16 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Catdesigns)
    15. 08:25 AM - Re: Re: Perseverance... (Ken Bickers)
    16. 08:30 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Pieti Lowell)
    17. 08:31 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Chris Rusch)
    18. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: Perseverance... (Michael Perez)
    19. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: Perseverance... (John Hofmann)
    20. 08:42 AM - Re: Perseverance... (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
    21. 08:43 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Jim Boyer)
    22. 08:46 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Barry Davis)
    23. 09:09 AM - Re: A-65 Breather Tube Exhaust (tkreiner)
    24. 09:32 AM - Re: Perseverance... (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
    25. 09:46 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Jack Phillips)
    26. 09:54 AM - Re: Re: A-65 Breather Tube Exhaust (Michael Perez)
    27. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help (Bkemike)
    28. 10:11 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Rick Holland)
    29. 10:16 AM - Re: Perseverance... (aerocarjake)
    30. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: Perseverance... (Keith)
    31. 10:25 AM - Re: Perseverance... (David)
    32. 11:27 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Don Emch)
    33. 12:01 PM - Re: Perseverance... (Lion Mason)
    34. 12:09 PM - Re: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help (gcardinal@comcast.net)
    35. 12:17 PM - Re: Perseverance... (gcardinal@comcast.net)
    36. 01:02 PM - Re: Thinking about selling... (tools)
    37. 02:01 PM - Re: Perseverance... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    38. 02:25 PM - Re: Perseverance... (Jim Boyer)
    39. 02:36 PM - Re: Perseverance... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
    40. 04:44 PM - Re: Perseverance... (Barry Davis)
    41. 09:18 PM - Re: Perseverance... (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:37:44 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: A-65 Breather Tube Exhaust
    Tom, I did not get the attachment.- =0A=0A=0AIf God is your co-pilot...sw itch seats.=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AKaretaker Aero=0Awww. karetakeraero.com


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    Time: 04:49:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fabric finale
    From: danhelsper@aol.com
    Mark, Ken has shared with me privately that his colors are black and yellow. Not sure if this is public knowledge so you might want to keep it to yourself. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Mark Stanley <mmrally@nifty.com> Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:31 pm Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale Looking good Ken! I like the slightly see through fuz in the first shot. Have you picked a colour scheme out yet? Cheers Mark S Japan Do not archive From: Ken Bickers Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:24 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale Tonight I finished all the fabric work on my project. Tomorrow I have an h our or two of ironing down pinked edges, then prep work for painting. Life is good. Cheers, Ken


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    Time: 04:52:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help
    From: danhelsper@aol.com
    Still shaking from that post.........trying to calm... Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> Sent: Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:41 pm Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs He lp I imagine Dan Helsper's having an apoplexy right now. As soon as he's better, he may have something to say... Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nightmare Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:28 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help --> <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com> Not sure if same accident I read about, but I did run across a piet acciden t ,somewhere in the interweb, caused because of a poorly welded elevator control horn. Dont remember any other details. How do you piet flyers feel about the orig design? Do you recommend keeping it original, or the 1 piece version? -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411046#411046


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    Time: 05:08:16 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Stanley" <mmrally@nifty.com>
    Subject: Re: Fabric finale
    Hi Dan, Yes I will keep it to myself. I have to admit that I am partial to black and yellow myself so I won=99t mind if another black and yellow Piet graces the skys. On the other hand, the crimson and cream look looks just fine as well, arrh, decisions,decisions, all part of the fun I suppose! Cheers Mark S Japan Do not archive From: danhelsper@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:48 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale Mark, Ken has shared with me privately that his colors are black and yellow. Not sure if this is public knowledge so you might want to keep it to yourself. Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Mark Stanley <mmrally@nifty.com> Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:31 pm Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale Looking good Ken! I like the slightly see through fuz in the first shot. Have you picked a colour scheme out yet? Cheers Mark S Japan Do not archive From: Ken Bickers Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:24 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale Tonight I finished all the fabric work on my project. Tomorrow I have an hour or two of ironing down pinked edges, then prep work for painting. Life is good. Cheers, Ken " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 06:33:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    One other option for the "tabs" on the formed control horns is to make them from three pieces of metal, as opposed to two. Rather than bending the side tabs, a separate channel can be bent, and welded on. The advantage of this method (aside from being easier to fabricate) is that the channel can be made to actually fit the wood that it attaches to. If the horns are made "to the plans", the gap between the bent flanges will be wider than the profile of the wood where it attaches (see photo of control horn in position for clarification). Unfortunately, I haven't welded my horns yet, so I can't provide photos of the finished product, so I have just positioned them in place for these photos. In my opinion, the formed sheet metal control horns are aesthetically much more appealing than flat steel horns (especially on a vintage aircraft like the Pietenpol), and, as long as they are properly welded and treated, are a superior design. The slight bends in the sheet metal produce a much stiffer horn than any solid horn of similar weight. Increasing the thickness to .09" increases the overall weight of each horn by 50%. And, to top it all off, the formed horns really are not difficult to build. Honestly. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411183#411183 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5414_166.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5424_821.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5425_120.jpg


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    Time: 06:46:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fabric finale
    From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
    ... shhh On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Mark Stanley <mmrally@nifty.com> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > Yes I will keep it to myself. > I have to admit that I am partial to black and yellow myself so I won=92t > mind if another black and yellow Piet graces the skys. On the other hand, > the crimson and cream look looks just fine as well, arrh, > decisions,decisions, all part of the fun I suppose! > > Cheers > Mark S > Japan > > Do not archive > > *From:* danhelsper@aol.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:48 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale > > Mark, > > Ken has shared with me privately that his colors are black and yellow. No t > sure if this is public knowledge so you might want to keep it to yourself . > > Dan Helsper > Puryear, TN > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Stanley <mmrally@nifty.com> > To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:31 pm > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale > > Looking good Ken! I like the slightly see through fuz in the first shot . > Have you picked a colour scheme out yet? > > Cheers > Mark S > Japan > > Do not archive > > *From:* Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:24 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale > > Tonight I finished all the fabric work on my project. Tomorrow I have > an hour or two of ironing down pinked edges, then prep work for painting. > Life is good. > > Cheers, Ken > > * > > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 07:08:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Perseverance...
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
    How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I mean, Pietenpols? Do not archive any snarky questions from me. -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com


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    Time: 07:14:22 AM PST US
    From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    4 1/2 years. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote: > > > How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I mean, Pietenpols? > > Do not archive > any snarky questions from me. > > -- > Dan Yocum > yocum137@gmail.com > > > >


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    Time: 07:27:04 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    Five, so far.- Should be finished prior to six.=0A-=0A=0AIf God is your co-pilot...switch seats.=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AKaretak er Aero=0Awww.karetakeraero.com=0A


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    Time: 07:38:37 AM PST US
    From: Mario Giacummo <mario.giacummo@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    3 years, an other one to finish it.. I hope Mario Giacummo 2013/10/23 Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> > > How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, > I mean, Pietenpols? > > Do not archive > any snarky questions from me. > > -- > Dan Yocum > yocum137@gmail.com > >


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    Time: 08:02:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Dan, Initial build was 2 years, 3 months. Rebuild was 10 months, 4 days. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411201#411201


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    Time: 08:08:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
    10 years with a hiatus to build a RV8 Sent from my iPad Jack Textor On Oct 23, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote: > > How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I mean, Pietenpols? > > Do not archive > any snarky questions from me. > > -- > Dan Yocum > yocum137@gmail.com > > > >


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    Time: 08:15:56 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
    Subject: Perseverance...
    8-1/2 years Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance... How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I mean, Pietenpols? Do not archive any snarky questions from me. -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com


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    Time: 08:16:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    From: "Catdesigns" <Catdesigns@att.net>
    13 years some more months and a few extra days. Still not done......... Finally had to relent and remodel the wife's kitchen that I told her I would do when the plane was finished. Chris -------- Chris Sacramento, CA WestCoastPiet.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411206#411206


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    Time: 08:25:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
    I've got all of you beat. I bought the first raw materials for my Piet in December of 1995, almost 18 years ago. I'm determined to get it finished before our infant at the time, Kevin, graduates from college. Ken On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Catdesigns <Catdesigns@att.net> wrote: > > 13 years some more months and a few extra days. Still not done......... > > Finally had to relent and remodel the wife's kitchen that I told her I > would do when the plane was finished. > > Chris > > -------- > Chris > Sacramento, CA > WestCoastPiet.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411206#411206 > >


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    Time: 08:30:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
    Al Coons built for over 30 years, I tested his latest change and as the new tail wheel worked , Still never left the ground, I decided to see if she would fly, around the patch she headed, Al's years of work flew under the Ford A purring at 1800 Max RPM, Just barely holding 200 feet, I slipped through the first paces of a new era for Mr Coons. As I passed over the excited Al he waved his , approval of a feat that he never expected, as I taxied to his hanger , There was excitement that many of you have felt and also those of you that are near to experience. I told Al that he will have to loose weight or we need more zip in the Ford, His first words were," I think I will sell Her, as 30 years of building was enough" My first words were ," I want to buy your Piet ." The next week-end and a Funk head added, I gave His Wife a a memorable ride a well as Rosie Stark. His pride is still flying, I tried the following. Werner 145, Ford B, Funk, Lambert, and now a Inverted Funk with Fuel Injection, SUPER . The 612 Wing has been flying since 2004, And due to that bad news Mesothelioma, I might have relinquish the best bird I have had the pride to have piloted, Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411210#411210


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    Time: 08:31:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    From: "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com>
    5+ years with a fuselage head start, 99% evenings and some weekends. I worked pretty much religiously on it from 6-9 four nights a week. -------- NX321LR Now test flying!! Mitsubishi Powered Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411211#411211


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    Time: 08:40:09 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    Lowell, what ever happened to the Lambert engine you flew?=0A=0A=0AIf God i s your co-pilot...switch seats.=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AK aretaker Aero=0Awww.karetakeraero.com=0A=0A=0A_____________________________ ___=0A From: Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@mat ronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:29 AM=0ASubject: Pietenp "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>=0A=0AAl Coons built- for over 30 years, I tested his latest change and as the new tail wheel worked , Still never left the ground, I decided to see if she would fly, around the patch she headed, Al's years of work flew under the Ford A purring at 1800 Max R PM, Just barely holding 200 feet, I slipped through the first paces of a ne w era for Mr Coons. As I passed over the excited Al he waved his ,- appro val of a feat that he never expected, as I taxied to his hanger , There was excitement that many of you have felt and also those of you that are near to experience.=0AI told Al that he will have to loose weight or we need mor e zip in the Ford, His first words were," I think I will sell Her, as 30 ye ars of building was enough"=0AMy first words were ," I want to buy your Pie t ."=0AThe next week-end and a Funk head added, I gave His Wife a a memorab le ride a well as Rosie Stark. =0AHis pride is still flying, I tried the fo llowing. Werner 145, Ford B, Funk, Lambert, and now a Inverted Funk with Fu el Injection, SUPER .=0AThe 612 Wing has been flying since 2004, And due to that bad news Mesothelioma, I might have relinquish the best bird I have h ad the pride to have piloted,=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A =0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411210#411210=0A=0A=0A=0A =========================0A ===================


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    Time: 08:40:33 AM PST US
    From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    Bought plans in 1976. Built rib jig and several ribs done over the years (not sure where they are). Many wood purchases. Bought flying Piet in 2011. I still think I will finish one....someday. Best, -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, IT and Production The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote: > I've got all of you beat. I bought the first raw materials for my Piet in December of 1995, almost 18 years ago. I'm determined to get it finished before our infant at the time, Kevin, graduates from college. Ken > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Catdesigns <Catdesigns@att.net> wrote: <Catdesigns@att.net> > > 13 years some more months and a few extra days. Still not done......... > > Finally had to relent and remodel the wife's kitchen that I told her I would do when the plane was finished. > > Chris > > -------- > Chris > Sacramento, CA > WestCoastPiet.com > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411206#411206 > > > > > > > > ========== > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:42:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" <curtdm@gmail.com>
    3 years so far and the only goal is to have it done in time for Abby to solo in it on her 16th birthday. That gives me another 5 to build and 1 for instruction. -------- Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411212#411212


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    Time: 08:43:19 AM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    Hi Dan and gang, I have spent 11 years + and have one wing yet to assemble, then cover both, engine cowl and (maybe) its done. Jim B. =C2-


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    Time: 08:46:57 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Perseverance...
    Built 6 Big Piets in 6 years and 3 months. Worked every Monday night and after a couple of years, added one Saturday per month. Some summers, we had a work week for all that could attend.. 5 are now flying cause one builder got a burr under his saddle and quit just after I painted his Piet. But hey....we stayed together longer than most marriages. LOL The group building and peer pressure really helped us to finish the 5 Big Piets Barry -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance... How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I mean, Pietenpols? Do not archive any snarky questions from me. -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com


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    Time: 09:09:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: A-65 Breather Tube Exhaust
    From: "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com>
    Michael, Sorry about that, let's see if it uploads this time... -------- Tom Kreiner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411218#411218 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/breather_mod_198.pdf


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    Time: 09:32:32 AM PST US
    From: "skipgadd@earthlink.net" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Perseverance...
    Started building the wing rib jig Aug 3 1991, 22 years and counting. Working on the fuel tank. Hope to be flying in a couple years. Skip > [Original Message] > From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Date: 10/23/2013 10:09:49 AM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance... > > > How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I mean, Pietenpols? > > Do not archive > any snarky questions from me. > > -- > Dan Yocum > yocum137@gmail.com > >


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    Time: 09:46:43 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
    Subject: Perseverance...
    Barry, maybe you shouldn't have painted his Big Piet pink with purple polka dots. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:47 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance... Built 6 Big Piets in 6 years and 3 months. Worked every Monday night and after a couple of years, added one Saturday per month. Some summers, we had a work week for all that could attend.. 5 are now flying cause one builder got a burr under his saddle and quit just after I painted his Piet. But hey....we stayed together longer than most marriages. LOL The group building and peer pressure really helped us to finish the 5 Big Piets Barry -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance... How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I mean, Pietenpols? Do not archive any snarky questions from me. -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com


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    Time: 09:54:49 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: A-65 Breather Tube Exhaust
    Thanks Tom. I had done that mod. last year when I rebuilt the engine.- I had just come across the write up I quoted earlier and have never heard/see n the breather attached to the heat box. =0A=0A=0AIf God is your co-pilot.. .switch seats.=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AKaretaker Aero=0Aw ww.karetakeraero.com=0A


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    Time: 10:09:25 AM PST US
    From: Bkemike <bkemike@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help
    I like it, Bill. I was just about to start the elevator horns and, like Terry Hand, was concerned about those behind-the-flanges cuts. Your approach solves several problems; fit, ease of fabrication, and that niggling feeling that rainwater/condensation is seeping inside and collecting in the bottom arm. Thanks for another idea I wish I had thought of. Mike Hardaway Politely tapped on the Gorilla Glass of an iPad. > On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:33 AM, "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > One other option for the "tabs" on the formed control horns is to make them from three pieces of metal, as opposed to two. Rather than bending the side tabs, a separate channel can be bent, and welded on. [snipped for brevity]


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    Time: 10:11:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    10 On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote: > > How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, > I mean, Pietenpols? > > Do not archive > any snarky questions from me. > > -- > Dan Yocum > yocum137@gmail.com > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z


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    Time: 10:16:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    Five years so far and maybe three to go - which means probably five to go (ha!). Dropped my press brake on my toe yesterday as I was tipping it back carefully to replace a valve part - so as I type this I am in the exam room waiting for the x-ray results (probably just a bad bruise they think). Building the Piet is one of the best experiences ever - very gratifying..... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411233#411233


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    Time: 10:24:02 AM PST US
    From: Keith <pietenpol@hodgehome.org.uk>
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    Here in the UK I started in 1995 and had it on it's wheels by 1997, then lost job and no money, then got a job and went on to build a house, retired 2009 and am hoping for an engine run in two weeks time. It has been fun all the way. Keith Hodge On 23/10/2013 6:15 PM, aerocarjake wrote: > > Five years so far and maybe three to go - which means probably five to go (ha!). Dropped my press brake on my toe yesterday as I was tipping it back carefully to replace a valve part - so as I type this I am in the exam room waiting for the x-ray results (probably just a bad bruise they think). Building the Piet is one of the best experiences ever - very gratifying..... > > -------- > Jake Schultz - curator, > Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411233#411233 > >


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    Time: 10:25:52 AM PST US
    From: "David" <david@tynerroberts.com>
    Subject: Perseverance...
    My 5 year old daughter has already settled on pink for "her" plane. Not sure how to break this news to the boys.... -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:46 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance... <jack@bedfordlandings.com> Barry, maybe you shouldn't have painted his Big Piet pink with purple polka dots. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:47 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance... Built 6 Big Piets in 6 years and 3 months. Worked every Monday night and after a couple of years, added one Saturday per month. Some summers, we had a work week for all that could attend.. 5 are now flying cause one builder got a burr under his saddle and quit just after I painted his Piet. But hey....we stayed together longer than most marriages. LOL The group building and peer pressure really helped us to finish the 5 Big Piets Barry -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance... How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I mean, Pietenpols? Do not archive any snarky questions from me. -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com


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    Time: 11:27:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Michael, The Lambert that was on Lowell's airplane is now on Frank Pavliga's Sky Gypsy. Actually, right now it's in his garage for an overhaul. Frank turned it over to me one day and I went out and played with it for a while. What a super engine/airframe combination. Very well balanced and a huge amount of thrust! I spent 12 years building mine. However, that included finishing college, getting married, having 4 kids, moving 6 times, building a house, building a couple of shops, and one big hangar collapse after it was finished the first time but before it first flew. I think I could write a book just on the building experiences! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411243#411243


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    Time: 12:01:18 PM PST US
    From: Lion Mason <airlion2@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    Hi all. It took me 5 years till the first flight and then 1.5 years for the rebuild. It is not a show piece but it flies . I am flying to barn well next month. Hope to see y'all there. Gardiner Sent from my iPhone On Oct 23, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote: > > 10 years with a hiatus to build a RV8 > > Sent from my iPad > Jack Textor > > On Oct 23, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I mean, Pietenpols? >> >> Do not archive >> any snarky questions from me. >> >> -- >> Dan Yocum >> yocum137@gmail.com > > > > >


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    Time: 12:09:58 PM PST US
    From: gcardinal@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help
    This is exactly how the elevator and rudder horns on NX18235 were built. It is a worthwhile change from the plans. =C2- And for those of you who haven't decided whether to use the formed control horns or flat sheet, read Bill Church's last paragraph regarding aesthetics , weight, strength and build difficulty. Bill is correct on all counts. =C2- Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:33:32 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help > One other option for the "tabs" on the formed control horns is to make them from three pieces of metal, as opposed to two. =C2-Rather than bending t he side tabs, a separate channel can be bent, and welded on. =C2-The adva ntage of this method (aside from being easier to fabricate) is that the cha nnel can be made to actually fit the wood that it attaches to. =C2-If the horns are made "to the plans", the gap between the bent flanges will be wi der than the profile of the wood where it attaches (see photo of control ho rn in position for clarification). =C2-Unfortunately, I haven't welded my horns yet, so I can't provide photos of the finished product, so I have ju st positioned them in place for these photos. In my opinion, the formed sheet metal control horns are aesthetically much more appealing than flat steel horns (especially on a vintage aircraft like the Pietenpol), and, as long as they are properly welded and treated, are a superior design. =C2-The slight bends in the sheet metal produce a much stiffer horn than any solid horn of similar weight. =C2-Increasing the t hickness to .09" increases the overall weight of each horn by 50%. =C2-An d, to top it all off, the formed horns really are not difficult to build. =C2-Honestly. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411183#411183 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5414_166.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5424_821.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5425_120.jpg =========== =========== MS - =========== e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. ===========


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    Time: 12:17:52 PM PST US
    From: gcardinal@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    8 1/2 years from first cutting of rib pieces in early 1997 to first flight in mid-2005. Credit goes to Dale Johnson for being an awesome building partner. =C2- Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum137@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:07:53 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance... How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I mean, Pietenpols? Do not archive any snarky questions from me. -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com =========== =========== MS - =========== e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. ===========


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    Time: 01:02:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Thinking about selling...
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    Hey Steve, Here's another view... The Piet is something like a sports car. Not very practical, useful, while not terribly expensive, it DOES cost to own, used or not... LOTS of sports cars get sold due to family reasons, and certainly family is the priority. However.. It sounds like you have use of other more useful planes, that's AWESOME. However, it doesn't sound like you own them... if that's the case, use is at someone else's discretion. Always a nagging situation. It doesn't sound like OWNING the Piet is a detriment to the family. If it were, I'd be all for selling it. Most folks who sell their little sports car, rarely ever get one again... I think your Piet is priced correctly (or thereabouts, maybe worth a little more, maybe a little less, but it sounds about right having bought one not that long ago). It's probably not gonna go up much in value, nor down... There's not much reason for selling now vs later insofar as market. >From what I can gather from your post, you generally want to keep it. The reason for selling being not a lot of use. I guess if it were me, I'd price it where I couldn't afford NOT to sell it and see what happens! If it stays with you, it was meant to be. If it sells, you made some good pocket change. It's true, there will always be one available for about that price, but are you always going to be able to just get it? It's FAR easier to justify NOT buying one, rather than selling if the reason isn't compelling... Good luck! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411256#411256


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    Time: 02:01:33 PM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Perseverance...
    QWxsIHdoaWxlIGJ1aWxkaW5nOg0KDQoyNzAgU2VzYW1lIENoaWNrZW4gZGlubmVycyB3aXRoIHN0 ZWFtZWQgYnJvY2NvbGkgYW5kIHdoaXRlIHJpY2UgZnJvbSB0aGUgR3JlYXQgV29rIEluIEdyYWZ0 b24sIE9oaW/igKYuLnVzdWFsbHkgYWJvdXQgOTo1OHBtIHdoZW4NCkpvZSAoSeKAmW0gY2VydGFp biB0aGF0IHdhc27igJl0IGhpcyByZWFsIG5hbWUpIHdvdWxkIGJlIGp1c3QgbG9ja2luZyB1cCB0 aGUgZG9vcnMgYW5kIEnigJlkIHByb21pc2UgaGltIHlldCBhZ2FpbiDigJhuZXh0IHRpbWUgSeKA mWxsIG9yZGVyIGVhcmxpZXIu4oCdDQoNCjExMiBFYXN0IG9mIENoaWNhZ28gd2luZ3MgYW5kIHBp enphIG1lYWxzLg0KDQoyMzQgZXBpc29kZXMgb24gU2F0dXJkYXkgbW9ybmluZ3Mgb2YgYm90aCBD bGljay1BbmQtQ2xhY2sgb24gQ2FyIFRhbGsgb24gTlBSIFJhZGlvIGZvbGxvd2VkIGJ5IE1pY2hh ZWwgRmVsZG1hbuKAmXMg4oCYV2hhZGR5YSBLbm93P+KAmQ0KQW55b25lIHN0b3BwaW5nIG92ZXIg bXkgaG91c2UgdG8gY2hlY2tvdXQgdGhlIGFpcnBsYW5lIGR1cmluZyB0aG9zZSBob3VycyB3YXMg YmFuaXNoZWQgdW50aWwgYWZ0ZXIgRmVsZG1hbuKAmXMgc2hvdyBlbmRlZCBhdCAxcG0uDQoNCjM2 IE1vbmRheSBuaWdodCBlcGlzb2RlcyBvZiBBbGx5IE1jQmVhbC4NCg0KMSw2Mzggc2hvd2Vycy4N Cg0KMywyNzYgdGVldGggYnJ1c2hpbmdzLg0KDQoxODkgdGltZXMgY3V0dGluZyB0aGUgZ3Jhc3Mu DQoNCjMgdGltZXMgZ29sZmluZy4NCg0KMiB0aW1lcyBzYWlsaW5nIHdpdGggYSBndXkgZnJvbSB3 b3JrLg0KDQoyMCB0aW1lcyBmbHlpbmcgYSBDaGFtcCBhbmQgQ3ViIGp1c3QgdG8gc3RheSBjdXJy ZW50IGFuZCBpbiB0aGUgZ2FtZSBhIGxpdHRsZSBiaXQuDQoNCjE2MiBwaG9uZSBjYWxscyBhbmQg dmlzaXRzIHRvIG15IE1vbS4NCg0KNDIyICB0aW1lcyBJIGhhZCBhIGhlYWRhY2hlIG9yIHdhcyB0 b28gdGlyZWTigKbigKYuDQoNCg0KTWlrZSBDLg0KDQoodGhhdCBsYXN0IG9uZSBpcyBhIGxpZSkN Cg=


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    Time: 02:25:32 PM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    Hi Mike, And what a great airplane; must not have watched Ally McBeal while building though. Cheers, Jim B. =C2-


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    Time: 02:36:49 PM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Perseverance...
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    Time: 04:44:43 PM PST US
    From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Perseverance...
    Jack, I'm trying to be nice and cannot say what I really think......but as we were building using assembly line methods and kept all the planes together, we mounted tail and all controls, mounted firewall and engine and all wiring, installed fuel tanks and plumbed everything, mounted landing gear and plumbed brakes, covered and painted wings, tail, and fuselage all in hopes he would get his head out of his. We did all this after he quit work. We still to this day don't have a clue what caused this, but I'm sure it was our fault! Thanks Barry Big Piets NX971BP, NX972BP, NX973BP, NX974BP, NX975BP ( of course the BP in our N numbers stand for Bernard Pietenpol and Big Piet) and NX976BP is also our EAA Chapter number, and guess who got that one. Bummer Ps: I wish you had suggested the polka dots earlier. LOL -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:46 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance... --> <jack@bedfordlandings.com> Barry, maybe you shouldn't have painted his Big Piet pink with purple polka dots. Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:47 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance... Built 6 Big Piets in 6 years and 3 months. Worked every Monday night and after a couple of years, added one Saturday per month. Some summers, we had a work week for all that could attend.. 5 are now flying cause one builder got a burr under his saddle and quit just after I painted his Piet. But hey....we stayed together longer than most marriages. LOL The group building and peer pressure really helped us to finish the 5 Big Piets Barry -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance... How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I mean, Pietenpols? Do not archive any snarky questions from me. -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com


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    Time: 09:18:12 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Perseverance...
    13 and counting. One more wing to go. Plus a slew of little stuff that always turnsup when least expected. Clif An optimist, after all, is often as wrong as a pessimist. But he has a lot more fun. > 8-1/2 years > Jack Phillips




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