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1. 03:37 AM - Re: Re: A-65 Breather Tube Exhaust (Michael Perez)
2. 04:49 AM - Re: Fabric finale (danhelsper@aol.com)
3. 04:52 AM - Re: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help (danhelsper@aol.com)
4. 05:08 AM - Re: Fabric finale (Mark Stanley)
5. 06:33 AM - Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help (Bill Church)
6. 06:46 AM - Re: Fabric finale (Ken Bickers)
7. 07:08 AM - Perseverance... (Dan Yocum)
8. 07:14 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Gary Boothe)
9. 07:27 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Michael Perez)
10. 07:38 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Mario Giacummo)
11. 08:02 AM - Re: Perseverance... (AircamperN11MS)
12. 08:08 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Jack)
13. 08:15 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Jack Phillips)
14. 08:16 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Catdesigns)
15. 08:25 AM - Re: Re: Perseverance... (Ken Bickers)
16. 08:30 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Pieti Lowell)
17. 08:31 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Chris Rusch)
18. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: Perseverance... (Michael Perez)
19. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: Perseverance... (John Hofmann)
20. 08:42 AM - Re: Perseverance... (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
21. 08:43 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Jim Boyer)
22. 08:46 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Barry Davis)
23. 09:09 AM - Re: A-65 Breather Tube Exhaust (tkreiner)
24. 09:32 AM - Re: Perseverance... (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
25. 09:46 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Jack Phillips)
26. 09:54 AM - Re: Re: A-65 Breather Tube Exhaust (Michael Perez)
27. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help (Bkemike)
28. 10:11 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Rick Holland)
29. 10:16 AM - Re: Perseverance... (aerocarjake)
30. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: Perseverance... (Keith)
31. 10:25 AM - Re: Perseverance... (David)
32. 11:27 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Don Emch)
33. 12:01 PM - Re: Perseverance... (Lion Mason)
34. 12:09 PM - Re: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help (gcardinal@comcast.net)
35. 12:17 PM - Re: Perseverance... (gcardinal@comcast.net)
36. 01:02 PM - Re: Thinking about selling... (tools)
37. 02:01 PM - Re: Perseverance... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
38. 02:25 PM - Re: Perseverance... (Jim Boyer)
39. 02:36 PM - Re: Perseverance... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
40. 04:44 PM - Re: Perseverance... (Barry Davis)
41. 09:18 PM - Re: Perseverance... (Clif Dawson)
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Subject: | Re: A-65 Breather Tube Exhaust |
Tom, I did not get the attachment.- =0A=0A=0AIf God is your co-pilot...sw
itch seats.=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AKaretaker Aero=0Awww.
karetakeraero.com
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Subject: | Re: Fabric finale |
Mark,
Ken has shared with me privately that his colors are black and yellow. Not
sure if this is public knowledge so you might want to keep it to yourself.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Stanley <mmrally@nifty.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale
Looking good Ken! I like the slightly see through fuz in the first shot.
Have you picked a colour scheme out yet?
Cheers
Mark S
Japan
Do not archive
From: Ken Bickers
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:24 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale
Tonight I finished all the fabric work on my project. Tomorrow I have an h
our or two of ironing down pinked edges, then prep work for painting. Life
is good.
Cheers, Ken
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Subject: | Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help |
Still shaking from that post.........trying to calm...
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:41 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs He
lp
I imagine Dan Helsper's having an apoplexy right now. As soon as he's
better, he may have something to say...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nightmare
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:28 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help
--> <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
Not sure if same accident I read about, but I did run across a piet acciden
t
,somewhere in the interweb, caused because of a poorly welded elevator
control horn. Dont remember any other details.
How do you piet flyers feel about the orig design? Do you recommend
keeping it original, or the 1 piece version?
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Fabric finale |
Hi Dan,
Yes I will keep it to myself.
I have to admit that I am partial to black and yellow myself so I
won=99t mind if another black and yellow Piet graces the skys. On
the other hand, the crimson and cream look looks just fine as well,
arrh, decisions,decisions, all part of the fun I suppose!
Cheers
Mark S
Japan
Do not archive
From: danhelsper@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale
Mark,
Ken has shared with me privately that his colors are black and yellow.
Not sure if this is public knowledge so you might want to keep it to
yourself.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Stanley <mmrally@nifty.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale
Looking good Ken! I like the slightly see through fuz in the first shot.
Have you picked a colour scheme out yet?
Cheers
Mark S
Japan
Do not archive
From: Ken Bickers
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:24 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale
Tonight I finished all the fabric work on my project. Tomorrow I have
an hour or two of ironing down pinked edges, then prep work for
painting. Life is good.
Cheers, Ken
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Subject: | Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help |
One other option for the "tabs" on the formed control horns is to make them from
three pieces of metal, as opposed to two. Rather than bending the side tabs,
a separate channel can be bent, and welded on. The advantage of this method
(aside from being easier to fabricate) is that the channel can be made to actually
fit the wood that it attaches to. If the horns are made "to the plans",
the gap between the bent flanges will be wider than the profile of the wood where
it attaches (see photo of control horn in position for clarification). Unfortunately,
I haven't welded my horns yet, so I can't provide photos of the
finished product, so I have just positioned them in place for these photos.
In my opinion, the formed sheet metal control horns are aesthetically much more
appealing than flat steel horns (especially on a vintage aircraft like the Pietenpol),
and, as long as they are properly welded and treated, are a superior
design. The slight bends in the sheet metal produce a much stiffer horn than
any solid horn of similar weight. Increasing the thickness to .09" increases
the overall weight of each horn by 50%. And, to top it all off, the formed horns
really are not difficult to build. Honestly.
Bill C.
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Subject: | Re: Fabric finale |
... shhh
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Mark Stanley <mmrally@nifty.com> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> Yes I will keep it to myself.
> I have to admit that I am partial to black and yellow myself so I won=92t
> mind if another black and yellow Piet graces the skys. On the other hand,
> the crimson and cream look looks just fine as well, arrh,
> decisions,decisions, all part of the fun I suppose!
>
> Cheers
> Mark S
> Japan
>
> Do not archive
>
> *From:* danhelsper@aol.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:48 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale
>
> Mark,
>
> Ken has shared with me privately that his colors are black and yellow. No
t
> sure if this is public knowledge so you might want to keep it to yourself
.
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Stanley <mmrally@nifty.com>
> To: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:31 pm
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale
>
> Looking good Ken! I like the slightly see through fuz in the first shot
.
> Have you picked a colour scheme out yet?
>
> Cheers
> Mark S
> Japan
>
> Do not archive
>
> *From:* Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:24 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Fabric finale
>
> Tonight I finished all the fabric work on my project. Tomorrow I have
> an hour or two of ironing down pinked edges, then prep work for painting.
> Life is good.
>
> Cheers, Ken
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How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I mean,
Pietenpols?
Do not archive
any snarky questions from me.
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
4 1/2 years.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I
mean, Pietenpols?
>
> Do not archive
> any snarky questions from me.
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> yocum137@gmail.com
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
Five, so far.- Should be finished prior to six.=0A-=0A=0AIf God is your
co-pilot...switch seats.=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AKaretak
er Aero=0Awww.karetakeraero.com=0A
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
3 years, an other one to finish it.. I hope
Mario Giacummo
2013/10/23 Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
>
> How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs,
> I mean, Pietenpols?
>
> Do not archive
> any snarky questions from me.
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> yocum137@gmail.com
>
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
Dan,
Initial build was 2 years, 3 months.
Rebuild was 10 months, 4 days.
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
10 years with a hiatus to build a RV8
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Oct 23, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I
mean, Pietenpols?
>
> Do not archive
> any snarky questions from me.
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> yocum137@gmail.com
>
>
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8-1/2 years
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance...
How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I
mean, Pietenpols?
Do not archive
any snarky questions from me.
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
13 years some more months and a few extra days. Still not done.........
Finally had to relent and remodel the wife's kitchen that I told her I would do
when the plane was finished.
Chris
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Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
I've got all of you beat. I bought the first raw materials for my Piet in
December of 1995, almost 18 years ago. I'm determined to get it finished
before our infant at the time, Kevin, graduates from college. Ken
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Catdesigns <Catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
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> 13 years some more months and a few extra days. Still not done.........
>
> Finally had to relent and remodel the wife's kitchen that I told her I
> would do when the plane was finished.
>
> Chris
>
> --------
> Chris
> Sacramento, CA
> WestCoastPiet.com
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
Al Coons built for over 30 years, I tested his latest change and as the new tail
wheel worked , Still never left the ground, I decided to see if she would fly,
around the patch she headed, Al's years of work flew under the Ford A purring
at 1800 Max RPM, Just barely holding 200 feet, I slipped through the first
paces of a new era for Mr Coons. As I passed over the excited Al he waved his
, approval of a feat that he never expected, as I taxied to his hanger , There
was excitement that many of you have felt and also those of you that are near
to experience.
I told Al that he will have to loose weight or we need more zip in the Ford, His
first words were," I think I will sell Her, as 30 years of building was enough"
My first words were ," I want to buy your Piet ."
The next week-end and a Funk head added, I gave His Wife a a memorable ride a well
as Rosie Stark.
His pride is still flying, I tried the following. Werner 145, Ford B, Funk, Lambert,
and now a Inverted Funk with Fuel Injection, SUPER .
The 612 Wing has been flying since 2004, And due to that bad news Mesothelioma,
I might have relinquish the best bird I have had the pride to have piloted,
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
5+ years with a fuselage head start, 99% evenings and some weekends. I worked pretty
much religiously on it from 6-9 four nights a week.
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NX321LR
Now test flying!!
Mitsubishi Powered
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
Lowell, what ever happened to the Lambert engine you flew?=0A=0A=0AIf God i
s your co-pilot...switch seats.=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AK
aretaker Aero=0Awww.karetakeraero.com=0A=0A=0A_____________________________
___=0A From: Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@mat
ronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:29 AM=0ASubject: Pietenp
"Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>=0A=0AAl Coons built- for over 30
years, I tested his latest change and as the new tail wheel worked , Still
never left the ground, I decided to see if she would fly, around the patch
she headed, Al's years of work flew under the Ford A purring at 1800 Max R
PM, Just barely holding 200 feet, I slipped through the first paces of a ne
w era for Mr Coons. As I passed over the excited Al he waved his ,- appro
val of a feat that he never expected, as I taxied to his hanger , There was
excitement that many of you have felt and also those of you that are near
to experience.=0AI told Al that he will have to loose weight or we need mor
e zip in the Ford, His first words were," I think I will sell Her, as 30 ye
ars of building was enough"=0AMy first words were ," I want to buy your Pie
t ."=0AThe next week-end and a Funk head added, I gave His Wife a a memorab
le ride a well as Rosie Stark. =0AHis pride is still flying, I tried the fo
llowing. Werner 145, Ford B, Funk, Lambert, and now a Inverted Funk with Fu
el Injection, SUPER .=0AThe 612 Wing has been flying since 2004, And due to
that bad news Mesothelioma, I might have relinquish the best bird I have h
ad the pride to have piloted,=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A
=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411210#411210=0A=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
Bought plans in 1976. Built rib jig and several ribs done over the years
(not sure where they are). Many wood purchases.
Bought flying Piet in 2011. I still think I will finish one....someday.
Best,
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, IT and Production
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've got all of you beat. I bought the first raw materials for my
Piet in December of 1995, almost 18 years ago. I'm determined to get it
finished before our infant at the time, Kevin, graduates from college.
Ken
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Catdesigns <Catdesigns@att.net>
wrote:
<Catdesigns@att.net>
>
> 13 years some more months and a few extra days. Still not
done.........
>
> Finally had to relent and remodel the wife's kitchen that I told her I
would do when the plane was finished.
>
> Chris
>
> --------
> Chris
> Sacramento, CA
> WestCoastPiet.com
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
3 years so far and the only goal is to have it done in time for Abby to solo in
it on her 16th birthday. That gives me another 5 to build and 1 for instruction.
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Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
Hi Dan and gang,
I have spent 11 years + and have one wing yet to assemble, then cover both,
engine cowl and (maybe) its done.
Jim B.
=C2-
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Built 6 Big Piets in 6 years and 3 months. Worked every Monday night and
after a couple of years, added one Saturday per month. Some summers, we had
a work week for all that could attend.. 5 are now flying cause one builder
got a burr under his saddle and quit just after I painted his Piet. But
hey....we stayed together longer than most marriages. LOL
The group building and peer pressure really helped us to finish the 5 Big
Piets
Barry
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance...
How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I
mean, Pietenpols?
Do not archive
any snarky questions from me.
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
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Michael,
Sorry about that, let's see if it uploads this time...
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Started building the wing rib jig Aug 3 1991, 22 years and counting.
Working on the fuel tank. Hope to be flying in a couple years.
Skip
> [Original Message]
> From: Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/23/2013 10:09:49 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance...
>
>
> How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your
RVs, I mean, Pietenpols?
>
> Do not archive
> any snarky questions from me.
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> yocum137@gmail.com
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Barry, maybe you shouldn't have painted his Big Piet pink with purple polka
dots.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance...
Built 6 Big Piets in 6 years and 3 months. Worked every Monday night and
after a couple of years, added one Saturday per month. Some summers, we had
a work week for all that could attend.. 5 are now flying cause one builder
got a burr under his saddle and quit just after I painted his Piet. But
hey....we stayed together longer than most marriages. LOL
The group building and peer pressure really helped us to finish the 5 Big
Piets
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance...
How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I
mean, Pietenpols?
Do not archive
any snarky questions from me.
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Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
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Subject: | Re: A-65 Breather Tube Exhaust |
Thanks Tom. I had done that mod. last year when I rebuilt the engine.- I
had just come across the write up I quoted earlier and have never heard/see
n the breather attached to the heat box. =0A=0A=0AIf God is your co-pilot..
.switch seats.=0AMichael Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AKaretaker Aero=0Aw
ww.karetakeraero.com=0A
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Subject: | Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help |
I like it, Bill.
I was just about to start the elevator horns and, like Terry Hand, was concerned
about those behind-the-flanges cuts. Your approach solves several problems;
fit, ease of fabrication, and that niggling feeling that rainwater/condensation
is seeping inside and collecting in the bottom arm.
Thanks for another idea I wish I had thought of.
Mike Hardaway
Politely tapped on the Gorilla Glass of an iPad.
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:33 AM, "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:
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>
> One other option for the "tabs" on the formed control horns is to make them from
three pieces of metal, as opposed to two. Rather than bending the side tabs,
a separate channel can be bent, and welded on.
[snipped for brevity]
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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
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> How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs,
> I mean, Pietenpols?
>
> Do not archive
> any snarky questions from me.
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> yocum137@gmail.com
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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Five years so far and maybe three to go - which means probably five to go (ha!).
Dropped my press brake on my toe yesterday as I was tipping it back carefully
to replace a valve part - so as I type this I am in the exam room waiting for
the x-ray results (probably just a bad bruise they think). Building the Piet
is one of the best experiences ever - very gratifying.....
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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Here in the UK I started in 1995 and had it on it's wheels by 1997, then
lost job and no money, then got a job and went on to build a house,
retired 2009 and am hoping for an engine run in two weeks time.
It has been fun all the way.
Keith Hodge
On 23/10/2013 6:15 PM, aerocarjake wrote:
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> Five years so far and maybe three to go - which means probably five to go (ha!).
Dropped my press brake on my toe yesterday as I was tipping it back carefully
to replace a valve part - so as I type this I am in the exam room waiting
for the x-ray results (probably just a bad bruise they think). Building the Piet
is one of the best experiences ever - very gratifying.....
>
> --------
> Jake Schultz - curator,
> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
>
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My 5 year old daughter has already settled on pink for "her" plane. Not sure
how to break this news to the boys....
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance...
<jack@bedfordlandings.com>
Barry, maybe you shouldn't have painted his Big Piet pink with purple polka
dots.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance...
Built 6 Big Piets in 6 years and 3 months. Worked every Monday night and
after a couple of years, added one Saturday per month. Some summers, we had
a work week for all that could attend.. 5 are now flying cause one builder
got a burr under his saddle and quit just after I painted his Piet. But
hey....we stayed together longer than most marriages. LOL
The group building and peer pressure really helped us to finish the 5 Big
Piets
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance...
How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I
mean, Pietenpols?
Do not archive
any snarky questions from me.
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
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Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
Michael,
The Lambert that was on Lowell's airplane is now on Frank Pavliga's Sky Gypsy.
Actually, right now it's in his garage for an overhaul. Frank turned it over
to me one day and I went out and played with it for a while. What a super engine/airframe
combination. Very well balanced and a huge amount of thrust!
I spent 12 years building mine. However, that included finishing college, getting
married, having 4 kids, moving 6 times, building a house, building a couple
of shops, and one big hangar collapse after it was finished the first time but
before it first flew. I think I could write a book just on the building experiences!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Hi all. It took me 5 years till the first flight and then 1.5 years for the rebuild.
It is not a show piece but it flies . I am flying to barn well next month.
Hope to see y'all there. Gardiner
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 23, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote:
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> 10 years with a hiatus to build a RV8
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Jack Textor
>
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum137@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I
mean, Pietenpols?
>>
>> Do not archive
>> any snarky questions from me.
>>
>> --
>> Dan Yocum
>> yocum137@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help |
This is exactly how the elevator and rudder horns on NX18235 were built. It
is a worthwhile change from the plans.
=C2-
And for those of you who haven't decided whether to use the formed control
horns or flat sheet, read Bill Church's last paragraph regarding aesthetics
, weight, strength and build difficulty.
Bill is correct on all counts.
=C2-
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:33:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help
>
One other option for the "tabs" on the formed control horns is to make them
from three pieces of metal, as opposed to two. =C2-Rather than bending t
he side tabs, a separate channel can be bent, and welded on. =C2-The adva
ntage of this method (aside from being easier to fabricate) is that the cha
nnel can be made to actually fit the wood that it attaches to. =C2-If the
horns are made "to the plans", the gap between the bent flanges will be wi
der than the profile of the wood where it attaches (see photo of control ho
rn in position for clarification). =C2-Unfortunately, I haven't welded my
horns yet, so I can't provide photos of the finished product, so I have ju
st positioned them in place for these photos.
In my opinion, the formed sheet metal control horns are aesthetically much
more appealing than flat steel horns (especially on a vintage aircraft like
the Pietenpol), and, as long as they are properly welded and treated, are
a superior design. =C2-The slight bends in the sheet metal produce a much
stiffer horn than any solid horn of similar weight. =C2-Increasing the t
hickness to .09" increases the overall weight of each horn by 50%. =C2-An
d, to top it all off, the formed horns really are not difficult to build.
=C2-Honestly.
Bill C.
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8 1/2 years from first cutting of rib pieces in early 1997 to first flight
in mid-2005.
Credit goes to Dale Johnson for being an awesome building partner.
=C2-
Greg Cardinal
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From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum137@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:07:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance...
How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs,
I mean, Pietenpols?
Do not archive
any snarky questions from me.
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Subject: | Re: Thinking about selling... |
Hey Steve,
Here's another view...
The Piet is something like a sports car. Not very practical, useful, while not
terribly expensive, it DOES cost to own, used or not... LOTS of sports cars get
sold due to family reasons, and certainly family is the priority. However..
It sounds like you have use of other more useful planes, that's AWESOME. However,
it doesn't sound like you own them... if that's the case, use is at someone
else's discretion. Always a nagging situation.
It doesn't sound like OWNING the Piet is a detriment to the family. If it were,
I'd be all for selling it.
Most folks who sell their little sports car, rarely ever get one again...
I think your Piet is priced correctly (or thereabouts, maybe worth a little more,
maybe a little less, but it sounds about right having bought one not that
long ago). It's probably not gonna go up much in value, nor down... There's
not much reason for selling now vs later insofar as market.
>From what I can gather from your post, you generally want to keep it. The reason
for selling being not a lot of use. I guess if it were me, I'd price it where
I couldn't afford NOT to sell it and see what happens! If it stays with
you, it was meant to be. If it sells, you made some good pocket change.
It's true, there will always be one available for about that price, but are you
always going to be able to just get it? It's FAR easier to justify NOT buying
one, rather than selling if the reason isn't compelling...
Good luck!
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Hi Mike,
And what a great airplane; must not have watched Ally McBeal while building
though.
Cheers,
Jim B.
=C2-
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Jack, I'm trying to be nice and cannot say what I really think......but as
we were building using assembly line methods and kept all the planes
together, we mounted tail and all controls, mounted firewall and engine and
all wiring, installed fuel tanks and plumbed everything, mounted landing
gear and plumbed brakes, covered and painted wings, tail, and fuselage all
in hopes he would get his head out of his. We did all this after he quit
work. We still to this day don't have a clue what caused this, but I'm sure
it was our fault!
Thanks
Barry
Big Piets NX971BP, NX972BP, NX973BP, NX974BP, NX975BP ( of course the BP in
our N numbers stand for Bernard Pietenpol and Big Piet) and NX976BP is also
our EAA Chapter number, and guess who got that one. Bummer
Ps: I wish you had suggested the polka dots earlier. LOL
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance...
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Barry, maybe you shouldn't have painted his Big Piet pink with purple polka
dots.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance...
Built 6 Big Piets in 6 years and 3 months. Worked every Monday night and
after a couple of years, added one Saturday per month. Some summers, we had
a work week for all that could attend.. 5 are now flying cause one builder
got a burr under his saddle and quit just after I painted his Piet. But
hey....we stayed together longer than most marriages. LOL The group building
and peer pressure really helped us to finish the 5 Big Piets Barry
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Perseverance...
How many of you fine builders spent more than 18 months building your RVs, I
mean, Pietenpols?
Do not archive
any snarky questions from me.
--
Dan Yocum
yocum137@gmail.com
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13 and counting. One more wing to go.
Plus a slew of little stuff that always
turnsup when least expected.
Clif
An optimist, after all, is often as wrong as a pessimist.
But he has a lot more fun.
> 8-1/2 years
> Jack Phillips
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