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1. 12:41 AM - Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help (Clif Dawson)
2. 03:19 AM - Re: Re: Perseverance... (Michael Perez)
3. 03:53 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Steven Dortch)
4. 04:19 AM - Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help (womenfly2)
5. 06:06 AM - Re: Perseverance... (caldwrl)
6. 06:19 AM - Re: Perseverance... (bdewenter)
7. 06:36 AM - build time (Douwe Blumberg)
8. 06:47 AM - Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help (nightmare)
9. 07:49 AM - Re: Re: Perseverance... (Dan Yocum)
10. 08:30 AM - Re: Perseverance... (Jim Boyer)
11. 09:49 AM - building in the house (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
12. 10:46 AM - shipping spruce (aviken)
13. 11:42 AM - Re: shipping spruce (nightmare)
14. 11:42 AM - Re: shipping spruce (nightmare)
15. 11:47 AM - Re: shipping spruce (Marcus Zechini)
16. 12:51 PM - Re: shipping spruce (Ken Bickers)
17. 02:50 PM - Re: shipping spruce (tools)
18. 03:03 PM - Solo X-Country (John Francis)
19. 03:30 PM - Re: Solo X-Country (Gary Boothe)
20. 03:56 PM - Re: Solo X-Country (bdewenter)
21. 06:41 PM - Re: Solo X-Country (John Francis)
22. 06:50 PM - Re: Re: Solo X-Country (Gary Boothe)
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| Subject: | Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help |
That's alright Mikeal. Just checking. :-)
By the way, all you black and yellows,is your
squadron planing on mounting Spandau's?
Oh, and who gets to wear the scarf on his helmet?
Clif
"Happiness is a DRY fart and a WET dream." Someone
Ooops. Sorry Cliff, my post was to Terry.
If God is your co-pilot...switch seats.
Michael Perez
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| Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
Thanks Don. I like to keep tabs on it just in case it ever comes up for sal
e...you never know...=0A-=0A=0AIf God is your co-pilot...switch seats.=0A
Michael Perez=0APietenpol HINT Videos=0AKaretaker Aero=0Awww.karetakeraero.
com=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Don Emch <EmchAir@aol
.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, October 23, 20
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=0AThe Lambert that was on Lowell's airplane is now on Frank Pavliga's Sky
Gypsy.- Actually, right now it's in his garage for an overhaul.- Frank
turned it over to me one day and I went out and played with it for a while.
- What a super engine/airframe combination.- Very well balanced and a h
uge amount of thrust!=0A=0AI spent 12 years building mine. However, that in
cluded finishing college, getting married, having 4 kids, moving 6 times, b
uilding a house, building a couple of shops, and one big hangar collapse af
ter it was finished the first time but before it first flew.- I think I c
ould write a book just on the building experiences!=0A=0ADon Emch =0ANX899D
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| Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
Enough already, I get the message and will go spend an hour in the aircraft
factory tonight. I was getting a little bad about putting off production.
First, family visited for the weekend. Then my wife and granddaughter had
to sell things at the school sporting events, then I had to go get the
car's tags reregistered, then, then I had several long days at work, then..
then ... then..... It has been a week since I touched the Piet. Last night
I read more "perserverance" emails and then watched some first flight
videos. Now I am fired up again.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> 13 and counting. One more wing to go.
> Plus a slew of little stuff that always
> turnsup when least expected.
>
> Clif
> An optimist, after all, is often as wrong as a pessimist.
> But he has a lot more fun.
>
> 8-1/2 years
>> Jack Phillips
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help |
Use a Jewelers saw or a Scroll saw with a metal cutting blade. Works great.
Its simple ~ WF2
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| Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
4-1/2 years so far, after purchasing wings from a Scout project. I hope to be
flying in 2014... currently covering tail feathers while wrapping up a few details
of the build.
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Robert Caldwell
Holly Lake Ranch, TX
Hanger at Mineola-Wisener (3F9)
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| Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
1999 - I was hopping TV channels and I happened upon a recap of EAA airventure
and a segment on Mike Cuys' award winning airplane. "I gotta get one of those"
I said. Ordered plans immediately. In 2005 or so, I built some tail feathers.
Life altering event in 2010 convinced me it was time to commit to the project,
and I did. Started in earnest Oct 16 2010 with the Corvair engine which ran
368 days after my first Corvair College. Started building the Piet August
2011. I do a little every day or say when Im home. I'm having a blast!
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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RE-PIET was started by an older gent in the late eighties I think. He
puttered on it in Florida during the winters up until 2000 when he got sick.
I bought it in 2002 with much of the basic woodwork done (or so I
believed.). I finished it in 2009 when it had it's "incident" and the spent
the next 2.5 years rebuilding it. First flew again August of 12.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help |
Love it Bill! Im sold. Thanks for sharing. Paul
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Paul Donahue
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| Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
Y'all are an inspiration. Thanks for sharing. My hat's off to all of
you that have finished building, or are close to finishing, their own
Air Campers.
If you missed it, the latest issue of the Experimenter has a 2 page
spread on the 2013 EAA Airventure Perseverance Awards: 9 planes, 8 are
RVs, 4 were built in under 2 years. That's not exactly a display of
"perseverance" in my opinion.
I'm not belittling those builder's efforts and accomplishments -
building and flying *any* airplane is a monumental achievement - I'm
just saying that the builders in this group show more perseverance than
those insert-tab-A-into-slot-B builders and are far more deserving of a
Perseverance Award.
Cheers!
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Perseverance... |
Hi MIke,
I always liked seeing the pictures of your building your Piet in the house.
We have a dining room I keep teasing my wife that would make a perfect mac
hine shop area so I wouldn't have to work in my cold garage in the winter.
So far though I'm still working in the garage!
Popcorn is good to eat while building; any spillage is just additional bouy
ancy for those over water flights.
cheers,
Jim B.
=C2-
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I just purchased some spruce spar boards for two sets of wings and also the wood
for the the tail surfaces. I purchased this from an individual who had chosen
not to build . The wood is In Rockingham North Carolina, and I need to get
to Arkansas. Since it is 15 feet long shipping is expensive as you all know...
So far the cheapest Quote I have is just under 300 dollars from FedEx but
the owner will have to take it to a business location for pick up. Does anyone
have any cheaper suggestions?
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| Subject: | Re: shipping spruce |
I would look in your yellow pages for a freight forwarder and make a bunch of calls.
I've shopped around in the past when shipping gliders around country (20
ft x 12 inch diameter at 90 lbs). Ended up paying 200.00 a few years ago from
SLC to MIA.
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| Subject: | Re: shipping spruce |
Hang gliders
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| Subject: | Re: shipping spruce |
My wife had an expensive and large painting shipped from west coast to VA.
cheap. There are individuals who make a living driving around this way.
forgot how (on the internet) she found this person.. will investigate
On Oct 24, 2013 1:47 PM, "aviken" <aviken@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> I just purchased some spruce spar boards for two sets of wings and also
> the wood for the the tail surfaces. I purchased this from an individual
> who had chosen not to build . The wood is In Rockingham North Carolina,
> and I need to get to Arkansas. Since it is 15 feet long shipping is
> expensive as you all know... So far the cheapest Quote I have is just
> under 300 dollars from FedEx but the owner will have to take it to a
> business location for pick up. Does anyone have any cheaper suggestions?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411337#411337
>
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| Subject: | Re: shipping spruce |
Aviken,
This may not be what you want to hear but I'd be inclined to drive from
Arkansas to North Carolina to pickup the wood myself. Since you are buying
it from a private individual where returns might be impossible, this would
give you a chance to look each piece over carefully before handing over the
money. You might even want to download from Chris Tracey's westcoastpiet
website, the information for grading spar material. That way, you can
reassure yourself that it really is appropriate for airplane use.
Cheers, Ken
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Marcus Zechini
<marcus.zechini@gmail.com>wrote:
> My wife had an expensive and large painting shipped from west coast to VA.
> cheap. There are individuals who make a living driving around this way.
> forgot how (on the internet) she found this person.. will investigate
> On Oct 24, 2013 1:47 PM, "aviken" <aviken@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I just purchased some spruce spar boards for two sets of wings and also
>> the wood for the the tail surfaces. I purchased this from an individual
>> who had chosen not to build . The wood is In Rockingham North Carolina,
>> and I need to get to Arkansas. Since it is 15 feet long shipping is
>> expensive as you all know... So far the cheapest Quote I have is just
>> under 300 dollars from FedEx but the owner will have to take it to a
>> business location for pick up. Does anyone have any cheaper suggestions?
>>
>>
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411337#411337
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| Subject: | Re: shipping spruce |
youship.com or something... Google "ltl" which means "less than load" for places
that'll quote you something cheaper than that likely.
A buddy of mine was quoted $1500 to ship some 4x8 sheets of honeycomb, but got
them shipped for a couple hunnert using youship (or who ever they were, should
be evident). And that was from CA to GA.
Antique tractor website forums usually have opportunity haul discussion areas that
can be helpful. Probably the BEST underground railroad is the old woodworking
machine group (owwm.org). You'll have to join (no spam, it's safe) to get
access to the opportunity haul forum called "rucker's rodeo". It's a VERY TIGHTLY
run bulletin board, pretend it's some woodworking machine part... like
rip fence rails or something similarly sized or you'll get bounced off. Once
you make contact with someone directly, it won't be a big deal.
For example, I'll be running from Chatt to Oshkosh round trip in the next couple
weeks and will make a post there that I'll have room available if someone needs
a machine moved... Or a wing, or motor, whatever.
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Completed my solo cross country Tuesday and am getting close to completing my flight
instruction for a Sport License. Attached is a video I took with a GoPro
camera. Can anyone tell me why the ground is wavy? I hope to get this all
figured out before I complete my Pietenpol!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4adoSbda8ns
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Way to go, John! I wonder if your camera is mounted on something that's
vibrating?
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:03 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Solo X-Country
--> <Mrkringles@msn.com>
Completed my solo cross country Tuesday and am getting close to completing
my flight instruction for a Sport License. Attached is a video I took with
a GoPro camera. Can anyone tell me why the ground is wavy? I hope to get
this all figured out before I complete my Pietenpol!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4adoSbda8ns
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John Francis
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| Subject: | Re: Solo X-Country |
John,
Way to go! You and I are that much closer to getting to Broadhead in the next
few years.
I have not had this experience in a Cub, only a 172, and other "enclosed" cockpits.
You have added motivation to my build.
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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| Subject: | Re: Solo X-Country |
gboothe wrote:
> Way to go, John! I wonder if your camera is mounted on something that's
> vibrating?
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
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>
> --
Gary,
Im not sure there is anything in this 1946 Cub that isnt vibrating! The camera
is mounted on the window with a suction cup.
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John Francis
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| Subject: | Re: Solo X-Country |
My guess, not claiming any knowledge of audio-visual, is that it's vibrating with
the glass. You might do better on some frame work....or fastened to your head!
I'm sure you are steady as a rock....
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:41 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Solo X-Country
--> <Mrkringles@msn.com>
gboothe wrote:
> Way to go, John! I wonder if your camera is mounted on something
> that's vibrating?
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
> --
Gary,
Im not sure there is anything in this 1946 Cub that isnt vibrating! The camera
is mounted on the window with a suction cup.
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