---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/25/13: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:05 PM - Re: Solo X-Country (Pieti Lowell) 2. 12:41 PM - Re: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help (Rick Holland) 3. 06:13 PM - Re: Jeep Engine (Chris) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:43 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Solo X-Country From: "Pieti Lowell" Congrats: So what is the problem ? Looks good to me, Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411415#411415 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:33 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs Help From: Rick Holland >>The advantage of this method (aside from being easier to fabricate) is that the channel can be >>made to actually fit the wood that it attaches to. True, but what I did was made the wood fit the channel by gluing some extra 1/16" ply and sand to fit. Nice work on your control horns btw. rh On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:09 PM, wrote: > This is exactly how the elevator and rudder horns on NX18235 were built. > It is a worthwhile change from the plans. > > And for those of you who haven't decided whether to use the formed control > horns or flat sheet, read Bill Church's last paragraph regarding > aesthetics, weight, strength and build difficulty. > Bill is correct on all counts. > > Greg Cardinal > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Bill Church" > *To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:33:32 AM > > *Subject: *Pietenpol-List: Re: A Simple Cut - But My Simple Mind Needs > Help > > billspiet@sympatico.ca> > > One other option for the "tabs" on the formed control horns is to make > them from three pieces of metal, as opposed to two. Rather than bending > the side tabs, a separate channel can be bent, and welded on. The > advantage of this method (aside from being easier to fabricate) is that the > channel can be made to actually fit the wood that it attaches to. If the > horns are made "to the plans", the gap between the bent flanges will be > wider than the profile of the wood where it attaches (see photo of control > horn in position for clarification). Unfortunately, I haven't welded my > horns yet, so I can't provide photos of the finished product, so I have > just positioned them in place for these photos. > In my opinion, the formed sheet metal control horns are aesthetically much > more appealing than flat steel horns (especially on a vintage aircraft like > the Pietenpol), and, as long as they are properly welded and treated, are a > superior design. The slight bends in the sheet metal produce a much > stiffer horn than any solid horn of similar weight. Increasing the > thickness to .09" increases the overall weight of each horn by 50%. And, > to top it all off, the formed horns really are not difficult to build. > Honestly. > Bill C. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411183#411183 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5414_166.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5424_821.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5425_120.jpg > > > - List Contribution Web Site -** > > > * > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:24 PM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jeep Engine Aviken Search the Pietenpol list archives at http://www.matronics.com/searching/ws_script_short.cgi for Jeep and you will come up with a dozen or so emails about a guy wanting to use a Jeep engine. As with all things Pietenpol someone has thought of it before it just takes some rooting around to realize it. I know every thing I can think of has been done. Chris Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aviken Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jeep Engine Has anyone ever considered converting an old Jeep engine to use in the piet. Reason I ask is I have a couple of them and they would be close to the weight and horsepower of the ford, but with a little more modern innards. Things like insert bearings, pressure oil in the right places. I hope this isn't a stupid question . Just trying to find the specs on the jeep , and It may run at a higher rpm to develop the 60 hp that it claims to have. 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