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     1. 04:55 AM - SERFI FLY-IN (Jerry Dotson)
     2. 05:08 AM - Re: SERFI FLY-IN (Jack Phillips)
     3. 05:40 AM - Re: SERFI FLY-IN (Gary Boothe)
     4. 06:06 AM - Re: Sky Scout (AircamperN11MS)
     5. 07:41 AM - Ford A/ B Crank Extension for Sale (Pieti Lowell)
     6. 07:52 AM - Re: SERFI FLY-IN (Catdesigns)
     7. 09:19 AM - Re: SERFI FLY-IN (Ray Krause)
     8. 09:26 AM - Re: Re: Sky Scout (Ray Krause)
     9. 09:28 AM - Re: Re: SERFI FLY-IN (Ray Krause)
    10. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: Sky Scout (Ray Krause)
    11. 09:36 AM - Re: SERFI FLY-IN (bdewenter)
    12. 09:37 AM - Re: SERFI FLY-IN (Glen Schweizer)
    13. 09:41 AM - Re: Sky Scout (AircamperN11MS)
    14. 09:55 AM - Re: Re: Sky Scout ()
    15. 01:41 PM - Re: SERFI FLY-IN (Bill Church)
    16. 02:22 PM - Re: SERFI FLY-IN (Jerry Dotson)
    17. 07:19 PM - Simplificate and add lightness or don't overthink things (Steven Dortch)
    18. 07:32 PM - Re: Simplificate and add lightness or don't overthink things (Ken Bickers)
    19. 08:47 PM - Re: Re: SERFI FLY-IN (Ray Krause)
    20. 09:05 PM - Re: Re: Sky Scout (Ray Krause)
    21. 09:13 PM - Re: Sky Scout (taildrags)
    22. 09:28 PM - Re: Simplificate and add lightness or don't overthink things (taildrags)
    23. 09:33 PM - Re: SERFI FLY-IN (taildrags)
    24. 10:00 PM - Re: Re: Sky Scout (Ray Krause)
    25. 11:47 PM - Re: Simplificate and add lightness or don't overthink things (Gerry Holland)
 
 
 
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      My son Tracy and myself attended the Southeastern Regional Fly-In at Evergreen,AL.
      I met up with 2 of our Piet listers and Pietenpol owners but sadly I had the
      only Piet there. They explained to me why they didn't bring their Piets but
      I will let them post why.
       The judges were good to my Piet. Pictures are here:
      http://www.serfi.org/2013/2013_Champs/NX510JD/NX510JD.htm
      Lots of beautiful airplanes there and the weather was almost perfect. Just a little
      cool to fly open cockpit in the mornings but CAVU!! 44 Friday AM and 36 Saturday
      morning. I stayed home nights.
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      
      First flight June 16,2012
      Flying in phase 2
      Lycoming O-235 C2C
      Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411661#411661
      
      
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      Congrats, Jerry!  Always nice to have the judges providing some positive
      reinforcement.  Nice looking plane.
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
      Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:55 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: SERFI FLY-IN
      
      <jdotson@centurylink.net>
      
      My son Tracy and myself attended the Southeastern Regional Fly-In at
      Evergreen,AL. I met up with 2 of our Piet listers and Pietenpol owners but
      sadly I had the only Piet there. They explained to me why they didn't bring
      their Piets but I will let them post why.
       The judges were good to my Piet. Pictures are here:
      http://www.serfi.org/2013/2013_Champs/NX510JD/NX510JD.htm
      Lots of beautiful airplanes there and the weather was almost perfect. Just a
      little cool to fly open cockpit in the mornings but CAVU!! 44 Friday AM and
      36 Saturday morning. I stayed home nights.
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      
      First flight June 16,2012
      Flying in phase 2
      Lycoming O-235 C2C
      Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411661#411661
      
      
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      BIG CONGRATULATIONS! and well-deserved!
      
      Gary Boothe
      NX308MB
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
      Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 4:55 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: SERFI FLY-IN
      
      --> <jdotson@centurylink.net>
      
      My son Tracy and myself attended the Southeastern Regional Fly-In at
      Evergreen,AL. I met up with 2 of our Piet listers and Pietenpol owners but
      sadly I had the only Piet there. They explained to me why they didn't bring
      their Piets but I will let them post why.
       The judges were good to my Piet. Pictures are here:
      http://www.serfi.org/2013/2013_Champs/NX510JD/NX510JD.htm
      Lots of beautiful airplanes there and the weather was almost perfect. Just a
      little cool to fly open cockpit in the mornings but CAVU!! 44 Friday AM and
      36 Saturday morning. I stayed home nights.
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      
      First flight June 16,2012
      Flying in phase 2
      Lycoming O-235 C2C
      Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411661#411661
      
      
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      Ray,
      
      Great Pics.  Wish I was up there to have a close look at it.  Looks like excellent
      workmanship.  
      
      I have an idea that could save you a whole lot of building time.  Instead of raising
      the roof of your shop you could remove the landing gear and put the fuse
      on a low dolly to move it around.  Besides it is a lot easier to cover without
      the gear on it. This way you will get to the Frazuer Lake gathering sooner.
      
      Just Sayin,
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411669#411669
      
      
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| Subject:  | Ford A/ B Crank Extension for Sale | 
      
      
      Crank Extension, last one is available, This machined item will allow the prop
      to pull air at an increase , as I have used one on all my Ford and Funk Engines,
      now I have a 90 hp Lambert prop that will turn 2000 RPM plus on a B block.
      The new machined cost is $ 370.00, first come first serve,
      By the way when I had my Incident at Oshkosh, the Ground-Adjustable alum, prop
      was damaged and the load that was put on the crank was absorbed by the Extension,
      which was bent, and required replacement, no damage to engine, after very
      close inspection.
      
      Pieti Lowell
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411670#411670
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: SERFI FLY-IN | 
      
      
      Congratulations Jerry.  
      
      Can you describe how you made the wing struts.  They look really nice but they
      have to be more than just wood.
      
      Chris
      
      --------
      Chris
      Sacramento, CA
      WestCoastPiet.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411671#411671
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: SERFI FLY-IN | 
      
      
      Fantastic plane, Jerry! You certainly deserve the award, what a craftsman you are!
      
      Thanks for sharing,
      
      Ray Krause
      Trying to build SkyScout
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Oct 29, 2013, at 4:55 AM, "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > My son Tracy and myself attended the Southeastern Regional Fly-In at Evergreen,AL.
      I met up with 2 of our Piet listers and Pietenpol owners but sadly I had
      the only Piet there. They explained to me why they didn't bring their Piets but
      I will let them post why.
      > The judges were good to my Piet. Pictures are here:
      > http://www.serfi.org/2013/2013_Champs/NX510JD/NX510JD.htm
      > Lots of beautiful airplanes there and the weather was almost perfect. Just a
      little cool to fly open cockpit in the mornings but CAVU!! 44 Friday AM and 36
      Saturday morning. I stayed home nights.
      > 
      > --------
      > Jerry Dotson
      > 
      > First flight June 16,2012
      > Flying in phase 2
      > Lycoming O-235 C2C
      > Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
      > do not archive
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411661#411661
      > 
      > 
      > 
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      Scott,
      
      Problem solved! I just removed the wheels and set the axles on the dollies, w
      ork great. The center section is mounted and very sturdy. Things are going w
      ell. Hope to do some covering this winter.
      
      Thanks, 
      Ray Krause
      
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Oct 29, 2013, at 6:06 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> w
      rote:
      > 
      ty.org>
      > 
      > Ray,
      > 
      > Great Pics.  Wish I was up there to have a close look at it.  Looks like e
      xcellent workmanship.  
      > 
      > I have an idea that could save you a whole lot of building time.  Instead o
      f raising the roof of your shop you could remove the landing gear and put th
      e fuse on a low dolly to move it around.  Besides it is a lot easier to cove
      r without the gear on it. This way you will get to the Frazuer Lake gatherin
      g sooner.
      > 
      > Just Sayin,
      > 
      > --------
      > Scott Liefeld
      > Flying N11MS since March 1972
      > Steel Tube
      > C-85-12
      > Wire Wheels
      > Brodhead in 1996
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411669#411669
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: SERFI FLY-IN | 
      
      
      Yes, please send some info and pictures.  How did you secure the fork to the strut?
      
      Thanks,
      
      Ray Krause
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Oct 29, 2013, at 7:52 AM, "Catdesigns" <Catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > Congratulations Jerry.  
      > 
      > Can you describe how you made the wing struts.  They look really nice but they
      have to be more than just wood.
      > 
      > Chris
      > 
      > --------
      > Chris
      > Sacramento, CA
      > WestCoastPiet.com
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411671#411671
      > 
      > 
      > 
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      My wife thought this photo told the whole story!
      
      If any one else wants to join us for a visit at my place on November 9, AM t
      ill?, I have lots of room at home, you may spend the night(s). Free Board an
      d Room!
      
      Ray Krause
      
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Oct 29, 2013, at 6:06 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> w
      rote:
      > 
      ty.org>
      > 
      > Ray,
      > 
      > Great Pics.  Wish I was up there to have a close look at it.  Looks like e
      xcellent workmanship.  
      > 
      > I have an idea that could save you a whole lot of building time.  Instead o
      f raising the roof of your shop you could remove the landing gear and put th
      e fuse on a low dolly to move it around.  Besides it is a lot easier to cove
      r without the gear on it. This way you will get to the Frazuer Lake gatherin
      g sooner.
      > 
      > Just Sayin,
      > 
      > --------
      > Scott Liefeld
      > Flying N11MS since March 1972
      > Steel Tube
      > C-85-12
      > Wire Wheels
      > Brodhead in 1996
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411669#411669
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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      > 
      
      <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier">
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: SERFI FLY-IN | 
      
      
      Congrats Jerry!  Will we see you at Barnwell, SC during the Corvair college?  I'm
      sure your Piet would look great next to P.F.'s and Dons!
      
      --------
      Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
      Dayton OH
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411684#411684
      
      
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      Way to go. Jerry.  Poets are so pretty.  Excellent work.
      
      
      ------------------------------
      On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 5:07 AM PDT Jack Phillips wrote:
      
      >
      >Congrats, Jerry!  Always nice to have the judges providing some positive
      >reinforcement.  Nice looking plane.
      >
      >Jack Phillips
      >NX899JP
      >Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      >
      >-----Original Message-----
      >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson
      >Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:55 AM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: SERFI FLY-IN
      >
      ><jdotson@centurylink.net>
      >
      >My son Tracy and myself attended the Southeastern Regional Fly-In at
      >Evergreen,AL. I met up with 2 of our Piet listers and Pietenpol owners but
      >sadly I had the only Piet there. They explained to me why they didn't bring
      >their Piets but I will let them post why.
      > The judges were good to my Piet. Pictures are here:
      >http://www.serfi.org/2013/2013_Champs/NX510JD/NX510JD.htm
      >Lots of beautiful airplanes there and the weather was almost perfect. Just a
      >little cool to fly open cockpit in the mornings but CAVU!! 44 Friday AM and
      >36 Saturday morning. I stayed home nights.
      >
      >--------
      >Jerry Dotson
      >
      >First flight June 16,2012
      >Flying in phase 2
      >Lycoming O-235 C2C
      >Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
      >do not archive
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411661#411661
      >
      >
      
      
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      Good job,
      
      You must have done that before my post.  It's great to see the center section on
      it like that.  Looks like it wants to fly.
      
      I was wondering if you wear a hard hat in there to keep from banging your head
      on the ceiling?  
      
      Cheers,
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411686#411686
      
      
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      Great picture Ray!!
      
      Brian
      SLC-UT
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray
      Krause
      Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:33 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sky Scout
      
      My wife thought this photo told the whole story!
      
      If any one else wants to join us for a visit at my place on November 9,
      AM till?, I have lots of room at home, you may spend the night(s). Free
      Board and Room!
      
      Ray Krause
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: SERFI FLY-IN | 
      
      
      I didn't know Jerry was a poet.
      In any case, he probably prefers to be referred to as handsome, rather than pretty.
      
      BC
      
      "glen" wrote:
      
      > Way to go. Jerry. Poets are so pretty. Excellent work. 
      > 
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411702#411702
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: SERFI FLY-IN | 
      
      
      I think it is obvious I laminated them. I made the struts in 2 pieces. Then took
      a 3/8" corebox bit in the router table and cut a rounded 3/8" wide and 3/16'
      deep groove in each piece from end to end. I sandwiched a 3/8" diameter 4130
      steel rod continuous.  After the pieces were all glued up I ran them through the
      planer to get a final 1" thickness, then set the tablesaw on 20 degrees tilt
      and cut a chamfer on all 4 corners, finished with sandpaper by hand. I failed
      to take a picture gluing the rods in.
      All the wood in the struts and landing gear was sawed on a homemade band sawmill
      I made back in the late 70's. Never dreamed it would be in an airplane.
      
      --------
      Jerry Dotson
      
      First flight June 16,2012
      Flying in phase 2
      Lycoming O-235 C2C
      Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411706#411706
      
      
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| Subject:  | Simplificate and add lightness or don't overthink things | 
      
      I have been struggling with making a patch to cover the chinny chin chin of
      my engine cowling below the air cleaner. The original had a really rough
      looking patch made from strips of aluminum covered with screen door mesh
      and bondo. It started out looking bumpy and as I removed things it just
      got  rougher. Until I had a ragged hole.
      
      As I kept looking at this cowling, I  noticed that it is not symmetrical.
      It looks good, but when you start looking the original manufacturer
      obviously free handed it. The  cowling actually looks pretty good. The
      patch will have to be "Custom fit".
      
      I watched videos of gentlemen using english wheels to make formed
      wheelpants for beautiful Brit planes. Other guys were masters with a hammer
      and shot filled bags. I went outside and played around with a ball peen
      hammer, a bag of sand and a piece of scrap aluminium. I discovered that it
      is really easy to make a rippled piece of aluminium with cracks.
      
      Then I sat with pieces a paperbag and masking tape. I made ever more
      complex and bigger pieces, requiring two and three pieces of ever larger
      papers, more bends, cuts and rivets.
      
      Then I stepped back, cleared my mind. I cut a piece of paper bag just
      enough larger than the hole to get a good looking set of rivets in it. I
      then placed it over the hole and shaped it. I put the fold on bottom and
      taped it on. I then pulled it off and cut where the fold was. I put it back
      on, taped it and took it off. Looked better and simpler than my previous
      overthought efforts,
      I did it again but better this time with two cuts, adjusted and played with
      it and I think I have found a good looking shape that is  simple to make
      and will require a minimum of hammering,  There it is, it seem seems to be
      fairly  straight forward.
      
      Tomorrow I will start cutting and bending a piece of scrap aluminum to see
      if I can follow through. Any thoughts?
      
      Blue Skies,
      Steve D
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Simplificate and add lightness or don't overthink | 
      things
      
      Steve,
      
      "I think I have found a good looking shape that is  simple to make and will
      require a minimum of hammering"
      
      I'd say go for it.  What more can you want?  Besides if you decide you
      don't like it or it develops cracks, you can always redo it later.  But it
      sounds like the right way forward.
      
      Cheers, Ken
      
      
      On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>wrote:
      
      > I have been struggling with making a patch to cover the chinny chin chin
      > of my engine cowling below the air cleaner. The original had a really rough
      > looking patch made from strips of aluminum covered with screen door mesh
      > and bondo. It started out looking bumpy and as I removed things it just
      > got  rougher. Until I had a ragged hole.
      >
      > As I kept looking at this cowling, I  noticed that it is not symmetrical.
      > It looks good, but when you start looking the original manufacturer
      > obviously free handed it. The  cowling actually looks pretty good. The
      > patch will have to be "Custom fit".
      >
      > I watched videos of gentlemen using english wheels to make formed
      > wheelpants for beautiful Brit planes. Other guys were masters with a hammer
      > and shot filled bags. I went outside and played around with a ball peen
      > hammer, a bag of sand and a piece of scrap aluminium. I discovered that it
      > is really easy to make a rippled piece of aluminium with cracks.
      >
      > Then I sat with pieces a paperbag and masking tape. I made ever more
      > complex and bigger pieces, requiring two and three pieces of ever larger
      > papers, more bends, cuts and rivets.
      >
      > Then I stepped back, cleared my mind. I cut a piece of paper bag just
      > enough larger than the hole to get a good looking set of rivets in it. I
      > then placed it over the hole and shaped it. I put the fold on bottom and
      > taped it on. I then pulled it off and cut where the fold was. I put it back
      > on, taped it and took it off. Looked better and simpler than my previous
      > overthought efforts,
      > I did it again but better this time with two cuts, adjusted and played
      > with it and I think I have found a good looking shape that is  simple to
      > make and will require a minimum of hammering,  There it is, it seem seems
      > to be fairly  straight forward.
      >
      > Tomorrow I will start cutting and bending a piece of scrap aluminum to see
      > if I can follow through. Any thoughts?
      >
      > Blue Skies,
      > Steve D
      >
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      >
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| Subject:  | Re: SERFI FLY-IN | 
      
      
      Thanks, Jerry.  Sure wish you had photos of the metal bar installation. Sure sounds
      good.
      
      Thanks,
      
      Ray Krause
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Oct 29, 2013, at 2:22 PM, "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@centurylink.net> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > I think it is obvious I laminated them. I made the struts in 2 pieces. Then took
      a 3/8" corebox bit in the router table and cut a rounded 3/8" wide and 3/16'
      deep groove in each piece from end to end. I sandwiched a 3/8" diameter 4130
      steel rod continuous.  After the pieces were all glued up I ran them through
      the planer to get a final 1" thickness, then set the tablesaw on 20 degrees tilt
      and cut a chamfer on all 4 corners, finished with sandpaper by hand. I failed
      to take a picture gluing the rods in.
      > All the wood in the struts and landing gear was sawed on a homemade band sawmill
      I made back in the late 70's. Never dreamed it would be in an airplane.
      > 
      > --------
      > Jerry Dotson
      > 
      > First flight June 16,2012
      > Flying in phase 2
      > Lycoming O-235 C2C
      > Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
      > do not archive
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411706#411706
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Attachments: 
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/landing_gear_129.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/struts_172.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/struts_1_201.jpg
      > http://forums.matronics.com//files/finished_glue_up_100.jpg
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      Just a lot of bumps on my head!
      
      Ray Krause
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:40 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > Good job,
      > 
      > You must have done that before my post.  It's great to see the center section
      on it like that.  Looks like it wants to fly.
      > 
      > I was wondering if you wear a hard hat in there to keep from banging your head
      on the ceiling?  
      > 
      > Cheers,
      > 
      > --------
      > Scott Liefeld
      > Flying N11MS since March 1972
      > Steel Tube
      > C-85-12
      > Wire Wheels
      > Brodhead in 1996
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411686#411686
      > 
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      Ray; forgive me if I've missed it, but where exactly are you located, and where
      is this all-night Piet party supposed to happen on November 9?  Willows?  I was
      just by there on Thursday and again on Saturday last week, headed down to Sacramento
      and back.  I was scoping out fuel and rest stops for my planned trip
      down to Frazier Lake next June in 41CC.  I know I'll want to stop in the Montague/Weed
      area once I make it over the Siskiyou Summit, but from there I'll need
      another stop somewhere around Chico.
      
      I can't make it down there Nov. 9, but maybe some of the Piet folk will show up
      and keep you company.
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411729#411729
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Simplificate and add lightness or don't overthink | 
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      Steve;
      
      Just this evening I was saying to Jay, my wife, that the original Air Camper was
      laid out and framed on the wooden floor of a barn, in the off season when farmers
      were done bringing in the crops, and that it was built out of commonly available
      materials in a simple and unpolished way.  I was bemoaning the fact that
      I am now on my 3rd attempt at getting a decent paint job on two aluminum cooling
      eyebrows for my engine.  The first attempt was a horrible mass of fisheyed
      paint.  The second attempt had very little fisheye but I got too sluggish
      with the rattle can and the paint sagged and ran, and I despaired.  Now it's stripped
      and cleaned and ready for attempt no. 3, but I'm wondering why, when the
      original 1929 airplanes were built and finished simply, but flew just fine
      anyway.
      
      A friend of mine sent me a video of a J-2 Cub with the Everal single-blade prop,
      flying around the patch.  What struck me was the camera view out the cockpit.
      Besides the countryside moving out in front of and below the airplane, the
      aileron cross-connect cable is seen passing between the two wing roots, and the
      sawing motion that the connecting turnbuckle makes as the pilot works the controls
      is the essence of the kind of simple geometry and construction that characterizes
      our airplanes.  It's just flat not rocket science.
      
      Shape a piece of metal to cover the hole that you have.  Smooth it as best you
      can.  Get some clecoes and rivets and fasten it in place.  Paint it with whatever
      you have at hand.  You're done.  You will love flying your Air Camper when
      it's done and flying.
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411730#411730
      
      
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      Jerry; she's a beauty!  Really nice work on the cockpits.  I don't believe I've
      ever seen wood coamings like that, either.
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411731#411731
      
      
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      Oscar,
      
      I am in Colusa, Ca, about 40 miles south south west of Chico. If you come this
      way, please plan on staying here, if you need a stop. In Chico, you might consider
      Chico Ranchaero airport. It has a grass strip I learned to fly off back in
      the very early '60s. It can be a little rough due to squirrels and there digging!
      
      On the 9th, Gary Booth, Chris, Tim and maybe 1-2others will be here. Whenever you
      come back this way, please stop in, even unannounced!  I am almost always here,
      or very close by. And feel free to stay here, if it is at all convenient
      for you. The same goes for any Pietenpoler!
      
      I will at least see you in Frazier Lake.
      
      Thanks,
      
      Ray
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:13 PM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > Ray; forgive me if I've missed it, but where exactly are you located, and where
      is this all-night Piet party supposed to happen on November 9?  Willows?  I
      was just by there on Thursday and again on Saturday last week, headed down to
      Sacramento and back.  I was scoping out fuel and rest stops for my planned trip
      down to Frazier Lake next June in 41CC.  I know I'll want to stop in the Montague/Weed
      area once I make it over the Siskiyou Summit, but from there I'll
      need another stop somewhere around Chico.
      > 
      > I can't make it down there Nov. 9, but maybe some of the Piet folk will show
      up and keep you company.
      > 
      > --------
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Medford, OR
      > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      > A75 power
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411729#411729
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Simplificate and add lightness or don't overthink | 
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      Steve Hi!
      Your efforts of metal bashing are recently and well remembered.
      I did manage to sort out that front area of the lower Rose Bowl/Air 
      Intake using a similar technique to yourself.
      The plate I made did just about conform to shape albeit with a slightly 
      planished finish.
      The actual sponge air filter area has a stainless steel (304-1.5mm) 
      surround plashed out with a mesh insert over the filter. It look good.
      Unfortunately this airplane is no more. Totalled last year in a climb 
      out incident. It went in at 40+ degrees and the front end was smashed.
      
      It's replacement is also A65 powered with same type of cowlings. Will do 
      similar once engine returns from overhaul.
      I have found a traditional metal basher who does beautiful work on 
      vintage cars. He has a fibre glass Rose Bowl as a pattern and is making 
      aluminium version.
      The 'first fit' was perfect and it's now back with him for finishing. 
      ACS versions are about $1500+ by the time they get to Europe.
      
      I've attached a picture of front end. It might show the sort of thing 
      you are doing?
      Regards
      Gerry
      
      Gerry Holland
      gholland@content-stream.co.uk
      +44 (0)7808 402404
      
      
      White Ox Mead Airstrip, Bath. England
      
      
 
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