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0. 12:14 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! (Matt Dralle)
1. 02:51 AM - Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. (Jack Phillips)
2. 04:30 AM - Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
3. 06:07 AM - Passenger Door Photos (jarheadpilot82)
4. 07:10 AM - Re: Passenger Door Photos ()
5. 08:05 AM - Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. (bdewenter)
6. 09:06 AM - New to the list (goffelectric@comcast.net)
7. 09:42 AM - Re: New to the list (Rick Holland)
8. 09:45 AM - Re: New to the list (Fastnaught John)
9. 10:25 AM - Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. (Ray Krause)
10. 10:33 AM - Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
11. 10:46 AM - Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. (Ray Krause)
12. 10:53 AM - Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions (Ray Krause)
13. 12:17 PM - Almost ten years later (Rick Holland)
14. 12:37 PM - Re: Almost ten years later (giacummo)
15. 12:38 PM - a simple idea (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
16. 12:43 PM - Re: ***SPAM***Almost ten years later (David)
17. 12:47 PM - Rick Holland Flies!!!!!!!!!!! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
18. 01:15 PM - Re: Rick Holland Flies!!!!!!!!!!! (Rick Holland)
19. 01:19 PM - Re: Almost ten years later (Gary Boothe)
20. 02:22 PM - Re: Almost ten years later (Jim Boyer)
21. 03:41 PM - Re: Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. (Michael Perez)
22. 03:53 PM - Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions (Gary Boothe)
23. 04:33 PM - Re: New to the list (jarheadpilot82)
24. 04:47 PM - Re: Almost ten years later (nightmare)
25. 05:24 PM - Re: Almost ten years later (goffelectric@comcast.net)
26. 05:38 PM - Re: Almost ten years later (Jack Phillips)
27. 06:05 PM - Re: Almost ten years later (Ryan Mueller)
28. 06:17 PM - Re: Rick Holland Flies!!!!!!!!!!! (taildrags)
29. 06:21 PM - Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions (taildrags)
30. 08:04 PM - Re: Re: New to the list (jorge lizarraga)
31. 08:10 PM - Re: Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. (Ray Krause)
32. 08:13 PM - Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions (Ray Krause)
33. 08:25 PM - complicated mock up (aviken)
34. 08:36 PM - Re: Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. (Ray Krause)
35. 09:33 PM - Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions (Gary Boothe)
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| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published |
in December!
Dear Listers,
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| Subject: | A-65 and radio rfi.. |
Ray, My understanding is that you need the shielded harness AND plugs.
That's what I have in my A65 and the radio is crystal clear. I have Slick
mags and they came with the shielded harness, so I haven't tried it without
shielding. Back when I owned a J-3 with an A65 (and Eismann mags) the
handheld radio had not been invented so there was no problem.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 and radio rfi..
Guys,
I know this may have bed discussed, but I have two questions:
1) I will be using an A-65 on my SkyScout without electrical. It has
Eisemann Am-4 mags and non shielded harnesses. What have you done to
suppress the rfi noise?
2) I plan on using my iCom A-24 hand held radio and would like to put a
ground plane behind the seat for a remote antenna. What antennas have you
used?
I have the same mags and harness in the Aeronca and the rfi is so bad, the
radio is useless. Any suggestions welcomed. We have the VERY OLD STYLE
PLUGS, do I have to use the newer shielded plugs and harness, or just the
harness?
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:57 AM, "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. |
Ray,
Attached are pictures of the antenna/ground plane in my Grega, it works
well. In the seat back open picture the antenna is black and gp are green.
I have one Eisemann Am-4 mag with shielded harness.
Have you checked the AD on the Eisemann's?
Skip
> [Original Message]
> From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 11/14/2013 11:54:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 and radio rfi..
>
<raykrause@frontiernet.net>
>
> Guys,
>
> I know this may have bed discussed, but I have two questions:
>
> 1) I will be using an A-65 on my SkyScout without electrical. It has
Eisemann Am-4 mags and non shielded harnesses. What have you done to
suppress the rfi noise?
>
> 2) I plan on using my iCom A-24 hand held radio and would like to put a
ground plane behind the seat for a remote antenna. What antennas have you
used?
>
> I have the same mags and harness in the Aeronca and the rfi is so bad,
the radio is useless. Any suggestions welcomed. We have the VERY OLD STYLE
PLUGS, do I have to use the newer shielded plugs and harness, or just the
harness?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Krause
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:57 AM, "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >
> > This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted.
Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program.
text/plain
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| Subject: | Passenger Door Photos |
It has been a little slow lately on the forum, and I know the recent cold snap
has slowed me as well as others down. With no heat in the workshop I had to move
my center section into the house to do some gluing (pictures to follow in another
post in a day or so). I don't think T88 likes 32 degrees in the shop!
I thought I would post some photos of the passenger door recently welded into my
fuselage by William Wynne and his outstanding welder, Vern Stephenson. The photos
and comments are self-explanatory, but I thought it might help the builders
contemplating or building the steel tube fuselage.
If you need any welding work done and you are anywhere near the Jacksonville FL
area, I would highly encourage you to contact William. Yes, he is The Corvair
Authority, and I am sure most of us think of him that way. However, he is also
a highly skilled A&P with a place in his heart for Pietenpols and Pietenpol
builders. He comes to Brodhead every year to talk Corvairs, but also talk Pietenpols.
So, if you need help, give him a call.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413144#413144
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_steel_fuselage_door_109.jpg
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| Subject: | Passenger Door Photos |
Terry,
Nice looking fuselage...!!
Brian
SLC-UT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jarheadpilot82
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 7:06 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Passenger Door Photos
--> <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
It has been a little slow lately on the forum, and I know the recent
cold snap has slowed me as well as others down. With no heat in the
workshop I had to move my center section into the house to do some
gluing (pictures to follow in another post in a day or so). I don't
think T88 likes 32 degrees in the shop!
I thought I would post some photos of the passenger door recently welded
into my fuselage by William Wynne and his outstanding welder, Vern
Stephenson. The photos and comments are self-explanatory, but I thought
it might help the builders contemplating or building the steel tube
fuselage.
If you need any welding work done and you are anywhere near the
Jacksonville FL area, I would highly encourage you to contact William.
Yes, he is The Corvair Authority, and I am sure most of us think of him
that way. However, he is also a highly skilled A&P with a place in his
heart for Pietenpols and Pietenpol builders. He comes to Brodhead every
year to talk Corvairs, but also talk Pietenpols. So, if you need help,
give him a call.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413144#413144
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_steel_fuselage_door_109.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. |
P.F. Beck made a very nice presentation at Broadhead in 2013 regarding making an
antenna and ground plane for the Pietenpol. The ground plane needs to be equal
in width and length to the height of your antenna.
As for what to make the antenna from, he suggests finding some leftover welding
rod! He can be reached at the Barnwell regional airport in Barnwell SC. for
more details barnwellairport@bellsouth.net
--------
Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413148#413148
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Hello to everyone. My name is Keith Goff. I live in Graniteville SC and am
new to the list. I'm about an hour North of PF Beck and Don Harper, very lu
cky for me! I started my project in March of 2012 so I'm about a year and a
half in. I have a rolling frame on bicycle tires and my Pietenpolr ribs ar
e built. I will try to attach a couple of pictures, the garage in the back
ground is not mine. I am building in a 12x24 work shop that isn't big enoug
h to take a picture of the whole airplane in. I look forward to being on th
is list and appreciate all of the great information posted here.
=C2-
Keith Goff
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| Subject: | Re: New to the list |
Nice work Keith, and great progress for only a year and a half. Some people
take that long to just build their ribs.
rh
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:05 AM, <goffelectric@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hello to everyone. My name is Keith Goff. I live in Graniteville SC and am
> new to the list. I'm about an hour North of PF Beck and Don Harper, very
> lucky for me! I started my project in March of 2012 so I'm about a year and
> a half in. I have a rolling frame on bicycle tires and my Pietenpolr ribs
> are built. I will try to attach a couple of pictures, the garage in the
> back ground is not mine. I am building in a 12x24 work shop that isn't big
> enough to take a picture of the whole airplane in. I look forward to being
> on this list and appreciate all of the great information posted here.
>
> Keith Goff
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: New to the list |
Hello Keith,
I live in Gilbert SC and about 75% done on my Piet. I would love to get together
sometime and share ideas. Please call me or email. 803-414-2235
jack Fasntaught
On Nov 15, 2013, at 12:05 PM, goffelectric@comcast.net wrote:
> <Piete.png>
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. |
Thanks, Jack. I am not sure how the Eisemann mags that I have accept the shielded
harness. With shielded plugs, are the shielded ignition wires grounded at the
plug AND at the mag ends? The original Eisemann mags (AM-4) did not support
shielded plugs or wires, I think.
Jack, do you just use the hand held's standard little antenna?
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:51 AM, "Jack Phillips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ray, My understanding is that you need the shielded harness AND plugs.
> That's what I have in my A65 and the radio is crystal clear. I have Slick
> mags and they came with the shielded harness, so I haven't tried it without
> shielding. Back when I owned a J-3 with an A65 (and Eismann mags) the
> handheld radio had not been invented so there was no problem.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:52 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 and radio rfi..
>
>
> Guys,
>
> I know this may have bed discussed, but I have two questions:
>
> 1) I will be using an A-65 on my SkyScout without electrical. It has
> Eisemann Am-4 mags and non shielded harnesses. What have you done to
> suppress the rfi noise?
>
> 2) I plan on using my iCom A-24 hand held radio and would like to put a
> ground plane behind the seat for a remote antenna. What antennas have you
> used?
>
> I have the same mags and harness in the Aeronca and the rfi is so bad, the
> radio is useless. Any suggestions welcomed. We have the VERY OLD STYLE
> PLUGS, do I have to use the newer shielded plugs and harness, or just the
> harness?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray Krause
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:57 AM, "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
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> the sender to send it again using a different format or email program.
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| Subject: | Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions |
Why is this like shooting ducks in a barrel every time?
My Uncle Tony has already answered all of your questions. This time 18 years ago.
You just need to take
time to listen to and read my Uncle Tony's advice.
http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/instruments/5Why%20Tolerate%20Radio%20Noise.html
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. |
Skip,
Yes, I have conformed to the AD, no problem with the coils on the mags. Do you
also run shielded plugs? Where did you get the shielded harness, make it? And
if so, how did you make it?
On the antenna: the coax cable central wire connects to the antenna which is 23"
long, and the ground wire connects to each of the 23" ground pieces? The ground
pieces are then attached to the fuselage sides vertically and the antenna
is held horizontally, or parallel to the longerons? And these measurements work
well for communications frequencies?
Thanks, this really helps, just what I needed for the antenna.
Looking forward to your response. Way too many questions?!
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 15, 2013, at 4:29 AM, "skipgadd@earthlink.net" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>
> Ray,
> Attached are pictures of the antenna/ground plane in my Grega, it works
> well. In the seat back open picture the antenna is black and gp are green.
> I have one Eisemann Am-4 mag with shielded harness.
> Have you checked the AD on the Eisemann's?
> Skip
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: 11/14/2013 11:54:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 and radio rfi..
>>
> <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> I know this may have bed discussed, but I have two questions:
>>
>> 1) I will be using an A-65 on my SkyScout without electrical. It has
> Eisemann Am-4 mags and non shielded harnesses. What have you done to
> suppress the rfi noise?
>>
>> 2) I plan on using my iCom A-24 hand held radio and would like to put a
> ground plane behind the seat for a remote antenna. What antennas have you
> used?
>>
>> I have the same mags and harness in the Aeronca and the rfi is so bad,
> the radio is useless. Any suggestions welcomed. We have the VERY OLD STYLE
> PLUGS, do I have to use the newer shielded plugs and harness, or just the
> harness?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray Krause
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:57 AM, "nightmare" <pauldonahuepilot@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted.
> Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program.
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> <com antena drawing.jpg>
> <pilot seat back open.JPG>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your |
questions
Thanks you, Mike! I should have referenced Uncle before I asked that question.
Just hope some others in our group may have come up with some "other" ideas.
I will be sure to check the Uncle first, in the future! I do have all his material.
Thanks for the reference,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:33 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
<michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>
> Why is this like shooting ducks in a barrel every time?
>
> My Uncle Tony has already answered all of your questions. This time 18 years
ago. You just need to take
> time to listen to and read my Uncle Tony's advice.
>
> http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/instruments/5Why%20Tolerate%20Radio%20Noise.html
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| Subject: | Almost ten years later |
Ordered my Pietenpol plans on 10/28/2003 and it flew the first time on
10/24/2013, four days short of ten years later.
Some details:
Engine: Corvair 2700 cc
Prop: Tennessee 66x30
Empty wt: 736
Flight test CG (half fuel): 16 1/4" aft of LE (1 1/4" back from front
limit, cabanes vertical)
Runway elevation: 6840 ft.
Temp: 53F
Runway density alt: 8112 ft.
Maneuvering altitude over airport: 9000 ft (10215 ft. DA, and could easily
go higher)
Total flight time in last 38 years prior to flight: 2 hrs dual in 172 and
.9 hr of dual touch and goes in back seat of a Decathlon.
CHT: 370 F max on climb and 340 F at cruise (stock 12 plate cooler).
Oil Pressure: mid 40s
Flight went great. I have flown lots of spam cans and although I am bias of
course I have to agree with Mike C and Jack P when they say that nothing is
as much fun as flyin a Piet. Very easy to fly, takeoff and land (even with
zero time in type).
Only change needed after flight - add front support for cowling (air
pressure pushed it against prop hub), flew hands off, no trim needed.
Want to thank everyone on the forum (and WW) for providing answers to all
my stupid questions and moral support. Building a machine from scratch and
flying it is definitely one of the most memorable events you will ever
experience as everyone that has done it has said.
One other thing I learned, putting a video camera on top of a Pietenpol fin
makes for a shaky video at full power (but it's better than no video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLxFp0JLhU
Thank again guys
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: Almost ten years later |
Felicitaciones!!! a little bit shaked the video, and your head, no?.. your first
flight in your own airplane.....awsome
Enjoy it it.
--------
Mario Giacummo
Photos here: http://goo.gl/wh7M4
Little Blog : http://vgmk1.blogspot.com
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Ray-- I don't have shielded ignition on my Eisemann mags either but I did carefully
follow Tony's advice in shielding
my magneto switch P-lead wires, grounding them at both ends and that had to have
helped because I can use my
handheld radio without too much ignition noise.
Here's something my United Airlines buddy Joe Tomasic told me years ago when flying
our Champ and using a radio
with unshielded ignition......'just switch to fly on one mag while you're listening
or transmitting.' Brilliant. That cuts out half the noise.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Almost ten years later |
Congrats! And great video..
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 12:17 PM
Subject: ***SPAM***Pietenpol-List: Almost ten years later
Ordered my Pietenpol plans on 10/28/2003 and it flew the first time on
10/24/2013, four days short of ten years later.
Some details:
Engine: Corvair 2700 cc
Prop: Tennessee 66x30
Empty wt: 736
Flight test CG (half fuel): 16 1/4" aft of LE (1 1/4" back from front limit,
cabanes vertical)
Runway elevation: 6840 ft.
Temp: 53F
Runway density alt: 8112 ft.
Maneuvering altitude over airport: 9000 ft (10215 ft. DA, and could easily
go higher)
Total flight time in last 38 years prior to flight: 2 hrs dual in 172 and .9
hr of dual touch and goes in back seat of a Decathlon.
CHT: 370 F max on climb and 340 F at cruise (stock 12 plate cooler).
Oil Pressure: mid 40s
Flight went great. I have flown lots of spam cans and although I am bias of
course I have to agree with Mike C and Jack P when they say that nothing is
as much fun as flyin a Piet. Very easy to fly, takeoff and land (even with
zero time in type).
Only change needed after flight - add front support for cowling (air
pressure pushed it against prop hub), flew hands off, no trim needed.
Want to thank everyone on the forum (and WW) for providing answers to all my
stupid questions and moral support. Building a machine from scratch and
flying it is definitely one of the most memorable events you will ever
experience as everyone that has done it has said.
One other thing I learned, putting a video camera on top of a Pietenpol fin
makes for a shaky video at full power (but it's better than no video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLxFp0JLhU
Thank again guys
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Rick Holland Flies!!!!!!!!!!! |
WOW RICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations Man!!!!!
Awesome accomplishment and so glad to hear things went so well!!!!
Mike C.
So actually it only took you 9 years.....and change:) !
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:17 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Almost ten years later
Ordered my Pietenpol plans on 10/28/2003 and it flew the first time on 10/2
4/2013, four days short of ten years later.
Some details:
Engine: Corvair 2700 cc
Prop: Tennessee 66x30
Empty wt: 736
Flight test CG (half fuel): 16 1/4" aft of LE (1 1/4" back from front limit
, cabanes vertical)
Runway elevation: 6840 ft.
Temp: 53F
Runway density alt: 8112 ft.
Maneuvering altitude over airport: 9000 ft (10215 ft. DA, and could easily
go higher)
Total flight time in last 38 years prior to flight: 2 hrs dual in 172 and .
9 hr of dual touch and goes in back seat of a Decathlon.
CHT: 370 F max on climb and 340 F at cruise (stock 12 plate cooler).
Oil Pressure: mid 40s
Flight went great. I have flown lots of spam cans and although I am bias of
course I have to agree with Mike C and Jack P when they say that nothing i
s as much fun as flyin a Piet. Very easy to fly, takeoff and land (even wit
h zero time in type).
Only change needed after flight - add front support for cowling (air pressu
re pushed it against prop hub), flew hands off, no trim needed.
Want to thank everyone on the forum (and WW) for providing answers to all m
y stupid questions and moral support. Building a machine from scratch and f
lying it is definitely one of the most memorable events you will ever exper
ience as everyone that has done it has said.
One other thing I learned, putting a video camera on top of a Pietenpol fin
makes for a shaky video at full power (but it's better than no video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLxFp0JLhU
Thank again guys
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: Rick Holland Flies!!!!!!!!!!! |
Thanks Mikey, oh and I also forgot to thank Mr. Pietenpol.
rh
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
> WOW RICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations Man!!!!!
>
>
> Awesome accomplishment and so glad to hear things went so well!!!!
>
>
> Mike C.
>
>
> So actually it only took you 9 years=85..and changeJ !
>
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Holland
> *Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2013 3:17 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Almost ten years later
>
>
> Ordered my Pietenpol plans on 10/28/2003 and it flew the first time on
> 10/24/2013, four days short of ten years later.
>
>
> Some details:
>
>
> Engine: Corvair 2700 cc
>
> Prop: Tennessee 66x30
>
> Empty wt: 736
>
> Flight test CG (half fuel): 16 1/4" aft of LE (1 1/4" back from front
> limit, cabanes vertical)
>
> Runway elevation: 6840 ft.
>
> Temp: 53F
>
> Runway density alt: 8112 ft.
>
> Maneuvering altitude over airport: 9000 ft (10215 ft. DA, and could easil
y
> go higher)
>
> Total flight time in last 38 years prior to flight: 2 hrs dual in 172 and
> .9 hr of dual touch and goes in back seat of a Decathlon.
>
> CHT: 370 F max on climb and 340 F at cruise (stock 12 plate cooler).
>
> Oil Pressure: mid 40s
>
>
> Flight went great. I have flown lots of spam cans and although I am bias
> of course I have to agree with Mike C and Jack P when they say that nothi
ng
> is as much fun as flyin a Piet. Very easy to fly, takeoff and land (even
> with zero time in type).
>
>
> Only change needed after flight - add front support for cowling (air
> pressure pushed it against prop hub), flew hands off, no trim needed.
>
>
> Want to thank everyone on the forum (and WW) for providing answers to all
> my stupid questions and moral support. Building a machine from scratch an
d
> flying it is definitely one of the most memorable events you will ever
> experience as everyone that has done it has said.
>
>
> One other thing I learned, putting a video camera on top of a Pietenpol
> fin makes for a shaky video at full power (but it's better than no video)
:
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLxFp0JLhU
>
>
> Thank again guys
>
>
> --
> Rick Holland
> Castle Rock, Colorado
> NX6819Z
>
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| Subject: | Almost ten years later |
That's great, Rick!! What a great feeling!
I had to add front support for the cowling, too. In case you are interested,
I have attached a picture of the speaker muffler that I put on my Sony video
camera. I sell these for $4.75 ea. ;-)
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 12:17 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Almost ten years later
Ordered my Pietenpol plans on 10/28/2003 and it flew the first time on
10/24/2013, four days short of ten years later.
Some details:
Engine: Corvair 2700 cc
Prop: Tennessee 66x30
Empty wt: 736
Flight test CG (half fuel): 16 1/4" aft of LE (1 1/4" back from front limit,
cabanes vertical)
Runway elevation: 6840 ft.
Temp: 53F
Runway density alt: 8112 ft.
Maneuvering altitude over airport: 9000 ft (10215 ft. DA, and could easily
go higher)
Total flight time in last 38 years prior to flight: 2 hrs dual in 172 and .9
hr of dual touch and goes in back seat of a Decathlon.
CHT: 370 F max on climb and 340 F at cruise (stock 12 plate cooler).
Oil Pressure: mid 40s
Flight went great. I have flown lots of spam cans and although I am bias of
course I have to agree with Mike C and Jack P when they say that nothing is
as much fun as flyin a Piet. Very easy to fly, takeoff and land (even with
zero time in type).
Only change needed after flight - add front support for cowling (air
pressure pushed it against prop hub), flew hands off, no trim needed.
Want to thank everyone on the forum (and WW) for providing answers to all my
stupid questions and moral support. Building a machine from scratch and
flying it is definitely one of the most memorable events you will ever
experience as everyone that has done it has said.
One other thing I learned, putting a video camera on top of a Pietenpol fin
makes for a shaky video at full power (but it's better than no video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLxFp0JLhU
Thank again guys
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: Almost ten years later |
Congratulations Rick; it looked like a nice flight around the patch. The wind noise
makes it hard to hear that smooth running Corviar though! Looked like a beautiful
late afternoon flight.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. |
Maybe:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php?clickkey=216737
If God is your co-pilot...switch seats.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your |
questions
Just between you and I, Ray, I don't have Uncle Tony's books. Don't tell
Mike, though...I'm not sure that he wouldn't just snap!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to
your questions
--> <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
Thanks you, Mike! I should have referenced Uncle before I asked that
question. Just hope some others in our group may have come up with some
"other" ideas.
I will be sure to check the Uncle first, in the future! I do have all his
material.
Thanks for the reference,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:33 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> --> (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
>
> Why is this like shooting ducks in a barrel every time?
>
> My Uncle Tony has already answered all of your questions. This time 18
years ago. You just need to take
> time to listen to and read my Uncle Tony's advice.
>
> http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/instruments/5Why%20T
> olerate%20Radio%20Noise.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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The pictures that are attached to this post are pictures I took of Keith's Pietenpol
project that he brought to this past weekend's Corvair College #27 in Barnwell.
As you can see, he does nice work. Far better than mine, that is for sure.
He told me that he had been "lurking" on the Forum for a while. I told him with
nice work like this, he needs to post and be an active part of the forum.
As you can see, Keith does nice work (other than stealing his children's bicycle
rims [Laughing] ).
Welcome to the ACTIVE forum, Keith.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Almost ten years later |
Awesome Rick. Congrats
--------
Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Almost ten years later |
Thanks for the welcome, your vidio is great Congrats! I like the camera ang
le.
Keith Goff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Holland" <at7000ft@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:17:24 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Almost ten years later
Ordered my Pietenpol plans on 10/28/2003 and it flew the first time on 10/2
4/2013, four days short of ten years later.
Some details:
Engine: Corvair 2700 cc
Prop: Tennessee 66x30
Empty wt: 736
Flight test CG (half fuel): 16 1/4" aft of LE (1 1/4" back from front limit
, cabanes vertical)
Runway elevation: 6840 ft.
Temp: 53F
Runway density alt: 8112 ft.
Maneuvering altitude over airport: 9000 ft (10215 ft. DA, and could easily
go higher)
Total flight time in last 38 years prior to flight: 2 hrs dual in 172 and .
9 hr of dual touch and goes in back seat of a Decathlon.
CHT: 370 F max on climb and 340 F at cruise (stock 12 plate cooler).
Oil Pressure: mid 40s
Flight went great. I have flown lots of spam cans and although I am bias of
course I have to agree with Mike C and Jack P when they say that nothing i
s as much fun as flyin a Piet. Very easy to fly, takeoff and land (even wit
h zero time in type).=C2-
Only change needed after flight - add front support for cowling (air pressu
re pushed it against prop hub), flew hands off, no trim needed.
Want to thank everyone on the forum (and WW) for providing answers to all m
y stupid questions and moral support. Building a machine from scratch and f
lying it is definitely one of the most memorable events you will ever exper
ience as everyone that has done it has said.=C2-
One other thing I learned, putting a video camera on top of a Pietenpol fin
makes for a shaky video at full power (but it's better than no video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLxFp0JLhU
Thank again guys
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
=C2-
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| Subject: | Almost ten years later |
Way to go, Rick! Great feeling, isn't it?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:17 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Almost ten years later
Ordered my Pietenpol plans on 10/28/2003 and it flew the first time on
10/24/2013, four days short of ten years later.
Some details:
Engine: Corvair 2700 cc
Prop: Tennessee 66x30
Empty wt: 736
Flight test CG (half fuel): 16 1/4" aft of LE (1 1/4" back from front limit,
cabanes vertical)
Runway elevation: 6840 ft.
Temp: 53F
Runway density alt: 8112 ft.
Maneuvering altitude over airport: 9000 ft (10215 ft. DA, and could easily
go higher)
Total flight time in last 38 years prior to flight: 2 hrs dual in 172 and .9
hr of dual touch and goes in back seat of a Decathlon.
CHT: 370 F max on climb and 340 F at cruise (stock 12 plate cooler).
Oil Pressure: mid 40s
Flight went great. I have flown lots of spam cans and although I am bias of
course I have to agree with Mike C and Jack P when they say that nothing is
as much fun as flyin a Piet. Very easy to fly, takeoff and land (even with
zero time in type).
Only change needed after flight - add front support for cowling (air
pressure pushed it against prop hub), flew hands off, no trim needed.
Want to thank everyone on the forum (and WW) for providing answers to all my
stupid questions and moral support. Building a machine from scratch and
flying it is definitely one of the most memorable events you will ever
experience as everyone that has done it has said.
One other thing I learned, putting a video camera on top of a Pietenpol fin
makes for a shaky video at full power (but it's better than no video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLxFp0JLhU
Thank again guys
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
NX6819Z
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| Subject: | Re: Almost ten years later |
Congratulations Rick!
do not archive
On 11/15/2013 2:17 PM, Rick Holland wrote:
> Ordered my Pietenpol plans on 10/28/2003 and it flew the first time on
> 10/24/2013, four days short of ten years later.
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| Subject: | Re: Rick Holland Flies!!!!!!!!!!! |
Rick; my sincere congratulations to you for your successful first flight!. It
is always inspiring to see yet another Piet take to the air, and it really looks
like it was a beautiful day for the event. Decompress and give us some feedback
on your sensations from the flight.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your |
questions
Gary: you don't have Tony Bingelis' books? You are hereby un-friended until you
put Tony's books on your Christmas wish list. You are missing a great deal
of valuable material, photos, hints, ideas, and insight.
Sometimes I think we should take up a collection to purchase Tony's books for poor
lost souls who are still wandering in the desert.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: New to the list |
welcom to the famyly and looks like beautyfull jope your finished sooner ,c
ongrats .jorge from hanford=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Friday, November 15, 2013 4:40
PM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com> wrote:=0A =0A--> Pietenpo
l-List message posted by: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>=0A
=0AThe pictures that are attached to this post are pictures I took of Keith
's Pietenpol project that he brought to this past weekend's Corvair College
#27 in Barnwell. As you can see, he does nice work. Far better than mine,
that is for sure.=0A=0AHe told me that he had been "lurking" on the Forum f
or a while. I told him with nice work like this, he needs to post and be an
active part of the forum.=0A=0AAs you can see, Keith does nice work (other
than stealing his children's bicycle rims [Laughing] ).=0A=0AWelcome to th
e ACTIVE forum, Keith.=0A=0A--------=0ASemper Fi,=0A=0ATerry Hand=0AAthens,
GA=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. |
Thanks, Mike. I will look into this, seems like an easy answer.
Ray Krause
SkyScout
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 15, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> Maybe:
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php?clickkey=216737
>
> If God is your co-pilot...switch seats.
> Michael Perez
> Pietenpol HINT Videos
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your |
questions
Gary,
Now I have dome information I can use against you in the future! I have the complete
set, but forget to use them until someone points out my mistake! Some of
his stuff is repetitive and/or self evident. Good stuff, just the same.
Flying this weekend?
Ray
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 15, 2013, at 3:52 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Just between you and I, Ray, I don't have Uncle Tony's books. Don't tell
> Mike, though...I'm not sure that he wouldn't just snap!
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:53 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to
> your questions
>
> --> <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
>
> Thanks you, Mike! I should have referenced Uncle before I asked that
> question. Just hope some others in our group may have come up with some
> "other" ideas.
>
> I will be sure to check the Uncle first, in the future! I do have all his
> material.
>
> Thanks for the reference,
>
> Ray Krause
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:33 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
>> Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> --> (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
>>
>> Why is this like shooting ducks in a barrel every time?
>>
>> My Uncle Tony has already answered all of your questions. This time 18
> years ago. You just need to take
>> time to listen to and read my Uncle Tony's advice.
>>
>> http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/instruments/5Why%20T
>> olerate%20Radio%20Noise.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | complicated mock up |
Hi fellows, please don't laugh too hard at my complex mock-up. Just wanted to
confirm that I would fit... I do touch a little at the shoulders, but I don't
think that will be a game changer . I really want to stay with the plans but
what do ya'll think?
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. |
Thanks, Bob. I wrote to him and requested any info he might be able to supply.
Thanks,
Ray Krause
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> On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:05 AM, "bdewenter" <anonymouse@woh.rr.com> wrote:
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> P.F. Beck made a very nice presentation at Broadhead in 2013 regarding making
an antenna and ground plane for the Pietenpol. The ground plane needs to be
equal in width and length to the height of your antenna.
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> As for what to make the antenna from, he suggests finding some leftover welding
rod! He can be reached at the Barnwell regional airport in Barnwell SC. for
more details barnwellairport@bellsouth.net
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> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
> Dayton OH
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413148#413148
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| Subject: | Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your |
questions
I'll fly in the morning, if the wind dies down. It's "Airport Day" at LHM
and avgas is a mere $4.98!! Come on down....!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to
your questions
--> <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
Gary,
Now I have dome information I can use against you in the future! I have the
complete set, but forget to use them until someone points out my mistake!
Some of his stuff is repetitive and/or self evident. Good stuff, just the
same.
Flying this weekend?
Ray
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> On Nov 15, 2013, at 3:52 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Just between you and I, Ray, I don't have Uncle Tony's books. Don't
> tell Mike, though...I'm not sure that he wouldn't just snap!
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> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray
> Krause
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:53 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers
> to your questions
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> --> <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
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> Thanks you, Mike! I should have referenced Uncle before I asked that
> question. Just hope some others in our group may have come up with
> some "other" ideas.
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> I will be sure to check the Uncle first, in the future! I do have all
> his material.
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> Thanks for the reference,
>
> Ray Krause
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> Sent from my iPad
>
>>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:33 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage
>> Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
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>> --> (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
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>> Why is this like shooting ducks in a barrel every time?
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>> My Uncle Tony has already answered all of your questions. This time
>> 18
> years ago. You just need to take
>> time to listen to and read my Uncle Tony's advice.
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>> http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/instruments/5Why%20
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>> olerate%20Radio%20Noise.html
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