---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/16/13: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:38 AM - Re: Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions (Steven Dortch) 2. 06:54 AM - Re: Almost ten years later (Robert Bush) 3. 07:00 AM - Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions (curtdm(at)gmail.com) 4. 07:01 AM - Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. (skipgadd@earthlink.net) 5. 07:17 AM - Re: Almost ten years later (danhelsper@aol.com) 6. 08:47 AM - FAA Part 23 rewrite (Steven Dortch) 7. 11:25 AM - Rick's flight (Douwe Blumberg) 8. 11:28 AM - Re: complicated mock up (taildrags) 9. 11:28 AM - Re: FAA Part 23 rewrite (taildrags) 10. 01:17 PM - Re: Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. (Michael Perez) 11. 03:38 PM - Re: Rick's flight (danhelsper@aol.com) 12. 04:15 PM - Re: Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions (Gary Boothe) 13. 05:21 PM - Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions (Ray Krause) 14. 05:33 PM - Re: Re: Prop carving (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 15. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions (Steven Dortch) 16. 06:02 PM - Re: Re: Prop carving (Steven Dortch) 17. 06:22 PM - Re: Prop carving (echobravo4) 18. 06:26 PM - Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication (aerocarjake) 19. 06:28 PM - Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication (jarheadpilot82) 20. 07:40 PM - Re: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! (macz@peak.org) 21. 07:49 PM - Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. (taildrags) 22. 07:51 PM - Re: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! (Matt Dralle) 23. 08:03 PM - Re: Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. (Ray Krause) 24. 10:24 PM - Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication (aerocarjake) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions From: Steven Dortch I surrender, what is the best source for the tony bingelis books? I see them for $89 on EAA site. Steve D On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:20 PM, taildrags wrote: > > Gary: you don't have Tony Bingelis' books? You are hereby un-friended > until you put Tony's books on your Christmas wish list. You are missing a > great deal of valuable material, photos, hints, ideas, and insight. > > Sometimes I think we should take up a collection to purchase Tony's books > for poor lost souls who are still wandering in the desert. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413184#413184 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Almost ten years later From: Robert Bush Congratulations Rick, glad to see you in the air. Makes all those years of w ork worth it doesn't it? On another note, there is a good write up in the October issue of general av iation news on Greg Cardinal and Bob Poore and their piets. Randy Bush NX294RB Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Rick Holland wrote: > Ordered my Pietenpol plans on 10/28/2003 and it flew the first time on 10/ 24/2013, four days short of ten years later. > > Some details: > > Engine: Corvair 2700 cc > Prop: Tennessee 66x30 > Empty wt: 736 > Flight test CG (half fuel): 16 1/4" aft of LE (1 1/4" back from front limi t, cabanes vertical) > Runway elevation: 6840 ft. > Temp: 53F > Runway density alt: 8112 ft. > Maneuvering altitude over airport: 9000 ft (10215 ft. DA, and could easily go higher) > Total flight time in last 38 years prior to flight: 2 hrs dual in 172 and . 9 hr of dual touch and goes in back seat of a Decathlon. > CHT: 370 F max on climb and 340 F at cruise (stock 12 plate cooler). > Oil Pressure: mid 40s > > > Flight went great. I have flown lots of spam cans and although I am bias o f course I have to agree with Mike C and Jack P when they say that nothing i s as much fun as flyin a Piet. Very easy to fly, takeoff and land (even with zero time in type). > > Only change needed after flight - add front support for cowling (air press ure pushed it against prop hub), flew hands off, no trim needed. > > Want to thank everyone on the forum (and WW) for providing answers to all m y stupid questions and moral support. Building a machine from scratch and fl ying it is definitely one of the most memorable events you will ever experie nce as everyone that has done it has said. > > One other thing I learned, putting a video camera on top of a Pietenpol fi n makes for a shaky video at full power (but it's better than no video): > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLxFp0JLhU > > Thank again guys > > -- > Rick Holland > Castle Rock, Colorado > NX6819Z > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:52 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions From: "curtdm(at)gmail.com" Free shipping from EAA this weekend too! -------- Curt Merdan Flower Mound, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413198#413198 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_333.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:31 AM PST US From: "skipgadd@earthlink.net" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 and radio rfi.. Ray, Yes, that is how the wires connect. I think you must be seeing the elevator connecting rod as the antenna. The antenna is vertical against the fuze side. I wanted the antenna vertical and put the ground planes where they would fit. Yes, the 23" length works well for the middle of the com frequencies. I bought the plane with 2 non impulse Bendix(lunchbox) mags. I got the Eisemann on ebay, so it would be safer to hand prop, and a guy on the field gave me the shielded harness, he had an incomplete set of 7 and I only needed 4. They aren't really made to fit the Eisemann, I got some of those auto type rubber booties and just stuck the leads in the Eisemann and they have been good for about 200 hours now. Yes, I am running the same standard aircraft shielded plugs that came with the plane, used with the Bendix mags. Skip > [Original Message] > From: Ray Krause > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: 11/15/2013 1:48:01 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 and radio rfi.. > > > Skip, > > Yes, I have conformed to the AD, no problem with the coils on the mags. Do you also run shielded plugs? Where did you get the shielded harness, make it? And if so, how did you make it? > > On the antenna: the coax cable central wire connects to the antenna which is 23" long, and the ground wire connects to each of the 23" ground pieces? The ground pieces are then attached to the fuselage sides vertically and the antenna is held horizontally, or parallel to the longerons? And these measurements work well for communications frequencies? > > Thanks, this really helps, just what I needed for the antenna. > > Looking forward to your response. Way too many questions?! > > Thanks, > > Ray Krause > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Nov 15, 2013, at 4:29 AM, "skipgadd@earthlink.net" wrote: > > > > Ray, > > Attached are pictures of the antenna/ground plane in my Grega, it works > > well. In the seat back open picture the antenna is black and gp are green. > > I have one Eisemann Am-4 mag with shielded harness. > > Have you checked the AD on the Eisemann's? > > Skip > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Ray Krause > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Date: 11/14/2013 11:54:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 and radio rfi.. > >> > > > >> > >> Guys, > >> > >> I know this may have bed discussed, but I have two questions: > >> > >> 1) I will be using an A-65 on my SkyScout without electrical. It has > > Eisemann Am-4 mags and non shielded harnesses. What have you done to > > suppress the rfi noise? > >> > >> 2) I plan on using my iCom A-24 hand held radio and would like to put a > > ground plane behind the seat for a remote antenna. What antennas have you > > used? > >> > >> I have the same mags and harness in the Aeronca and the rfi is so bad, > > the radio is useless. Any suggestions welcomed. We have the VERY OLD STYLE > > PLUGS, do I have to use the newer shielded plugs and harness, or just the > > harness? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Ray Krause > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:57 AM, "nightmare" > > wrote: > >>> > >>> This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. > > Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. > > text/plain > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Almost ten years later From: danhelsper@aol.com Congratulations Rick! Beautiful flight and airplane! Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Rick Holland Sent: Fri, Nov 15, 2013 2:18 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Almost ten years later Ordered my Pietenpol plans on 10/28/2003 and it flew the first time on 10/2 4/2013, four days short of ten years later. Some details: Engine: Corvair 2700 cc Prop: Tennessee 66x30 Empty wt: 736 Flight test CG (half fuel): 16 1/4" aft of LE (1 1/4" back from front limit , cabanes vertical) Runway elevation: 6840 ft. Temp: 53F Runway density alt: 8112 ft. Maneuvering altitude over airport: 9000 ft (10215 ft. DA, and could easily go higher) Total flight time in last 38 years prior to flight: 2 hrs dual in 172 and . 9 hr of dual touch and goes in back seat of a Decathlon. CHT: 370 F max on climb and 340 F at cruise (stock 12 plate cooler). Oil Pressure: mid 40s Flight went great. I have flown lots of spam cans and although I am bias of course I have to agree with Mike C and Jack P when they say that nothing i s as much fun as flyin a Piet. Very easy to fly, takeoff and land (even wit h zero time in type). Only change needed after flight - add front support for cowling (air pressu re pushed it against prop hub), flew hands off, no trim needed. Want to thank everyone on the forum (and WW) for providing answers to all m y stupid questions and moral support. Building a machine from scratch and f lying it is definitely one of the most memorable events you will ever exper ience as everyone that has done it has said. One other thing I learned, putting a video camera on top of a Pietenpol fin makes for a shaky video at full power (but it's better than no video): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLxFp0JLhU Thank again guys -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado NX6819Z ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:45 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: FAA Part 23 rewrite From: Steven Dortch Yahoo! Congress has passed and the president is to sign the FAA Part 23 rewrite. This does little for the Pietenpol group but it will greatly extent the life and affordability of flying my 1948 Vtail Bonanza. It makes it so that I can treat it more like a homebuilt. It is basically like the Canadian rule that allows the owner to manufacture or purchase non FAA certified parts. In Canada it has proven to actually improve safety. Owners can afford to get better instrumentation, and replace parts that the manufacturers have priced like they are made of unobtainium. For example, the beechcraft prop pitch change bearing on my old bird is a pretty simple bearing and race with two tabs attached to it. However, it is unobtainable from Beech at any price. New Old stock are pushing $2000 and used ones run $1000-1500. This is really a $100 part but the FAA has squashed any attempt to make new ones. If mine goes bad, I may not be able to find a new one. My only fear is that teh FAA may not execute this as well as hoped. There are some great people in the FAA. But there are some that are more interested in job preservation than in doing what is right. Blue Happy Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:25:08 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rick's flight Yay Rick!!! Way to go! Send in some pics of your plane, I don't think I've seen her all finished up. Douwe ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:28:00 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: complicated mock up From: "taildrags" We'd like to see what it looks like! If you use the Matronics forum, you can attach a photo to your post by just scrolling down to the "Add an Attachment" button and going from there. If you're not on the forum and just posting to the list, you need to figure out how to attach items to your posts using your email client. Easiest thing to do is step outside your house, find the nearest 10-15-year old boy or girl out there, and ask them to do it for you ;o) Every youngster out there these days can easily work with electronics and computers. I'll bet they would be fascinated by your Piet mock-up, too. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413208#413208 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:28:52 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: FAA Part 23 rewrite From: "taildrags" Steve: friends don't let friends own certified aircraft ;o) Experimentals forever! -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413209#413209 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:17:25 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: A-65 and radio rfi.. Ray, I am in the process of figuring out my radio gear and found this antenna interesting. I am not ready to move on anything as of yet, but if you do, please let me know how it works out. If God is your co-pilot...switch seats. Michael Perez Pietenpol HINT Videos Karetaker Aero www.karetakeraero.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:38:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rick's flight From: danhelsper@aol.com ........kind of looks black and yellow........... Dan Helsper Puryear, TN -----Original Message----- From: Douwe Blumberg Sent: Sat, Nov 16, 2013 1:25 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rick's flight Yay Rick!!! Way to go! Send in some pics of your plane, I don=99t think I=99veseen he r all finished up. Douwe ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:37 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions OK, ALREADY!! They are officially on the Christmas Wish List!! Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of taildrags Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions --> Gary: you don't have Tony Bingelis' books? You are hereby un-friended until you put Tony's books on your Christmas wish list. You are missing a great deal of valuable material, photos, hints, ideas, and insight. Sometimes I think we should take up a collection to purchase Tony's books for poor lost souls who are still wandering in the desert. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413184#413184 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:21:10 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions Gary, Sorry I missed you today, spent too much time in Oroville. It was EAA breakfast day. Is "AIRPORT DAY" every third Saturday? Sure was a nice day to fly. Hope you got up. I managed to get in 1.1 hrs. Thanks, Ray Sent from my iPad > On Nov 15, 2013, at 9:33 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: > > > I'll fly in the morning, if the wind dies down. It's "Airport Day" at LHM > and avgas is a mere $4.98!! Come on down....! > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:13 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to > your questions > > --> > > Gary, > > Now I have dome information I can use against you in the future! I have the > complete set, but forget to use them until someone points out my mistake! > Some of his stuff is repetitive and/or self evident. Good stuff, just the > same. > > Flying this weekend? > > Ray > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 15, 2013, at 3:52 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote: >> >> --> >> >> Just between you and I, Ray, I don't have Uncle Tony's books. Don't >> tell Mike, though...I'm not sure that he wouldn't just snap! >> >> Gary Boothe >> NX308MB >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray >> Krause >> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:53 AM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers >> to your questions >> >> --> >> >> Thanks you, Mike! I should have referenced Uncle before I asked that >> question. Just hope some others in our group may have come up with >> some "other" ideas. >> >> I will be sure to check the Uncle first, in the future! I do have all >> his material. >> >> Thanks for the reference, >> >> Ray Krause >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:33 AM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage >>> Partners, LLC]" wrote: >>> >>> --> (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" >>> >>> Why is this like shooting ducks in a barrel every time? >>> >>> My Uncle Tony has already answered all of your questions. This time >>> 18 >> years ago. You just need to take >>> time to listen to and read my Uncle Tony's advice. >>> >>> http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/instruments/5Why%20 >>> T >>> olerate%20Radio%20Noise.html > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:33:00 PM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Prop carving Scott, I'm in a rut, you can always come help me build, I'm making no progress fast so anyone interested in coming to help build please feel free to come and help. I'm hoping for second wind of builders enthusiasm.Just too diluted and too far behind with work, business and medical issues I can sure uses a kick start. John In a message dated 11/1/2013 1:45:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Scott.liefeld@lacity.org writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "AircamperN11MS" Chris, That building bug just won't go away, even after you fly. I still miss having something to build sometimes. Especially when I can't fly due to weather. Have fun with it. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411920#411920 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:41:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Radio Noise--- Tony Bingelis 1995 answers to your questions From: Steven Dortch OK, I ordered both the Bingelis book set of 4 and the 1929-1933 flying and glider manual book set. No shipping this weekend. I am independent and want to be a person who stands out in a crowd. Just like my friends. Does anyone fly a Piet on Floats? 1933 flying and glider manual. Blue Skies, Steve D On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Steven Dortch wrote: > I surrender, what is the best source for the tony bingelis books? I see > them for $89 on EAA site. > > Steve D > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:20 PM, taildrags wrote: > >> >> Gary: you don't have Tony Bingelis' books? You are hereby un-friended >> until you put Tony's books on your Christmas wish list. You are missing a >> great deal of valuable material, photos, hints, ideas, and insight. >> >> Sometimes I think we should take up a collection to purchase Tony's books >> for poor lost souls who are still wandering in the desert. >> >> -------- >> Oscar Zuniga >> Medford, OR >> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" >> A75 power >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413184#413184 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:02:44 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Prop carving From: Steven Dortch Scott, videos of Piet flights help me get motivated. Today I went to the airport to let my son get some of his furniture out of the hangar. I also dusted off the Bonanza and cleaned the hangar some. Meanwhile several homebuilt planes took off. That also inspired me to get some building done. It is too easy to let other things get in the way. (Besides, everything takes 3X longer than I think it will.) Tomorrow after church I will go to the range with one of my boys and we will both send a lot of lead downrange (.22 so it is affordable). This week I will make sure that I am set up to do several projects (buy plex and things for painting my cowlings. Next week, I will go to a competitive shoot for two days. BUT I have taken the whole week of Thanksgiving off and will only work on my bird for at least 5 full days. Free advice, go pick a small project to get done and then another. Blue Skies, Steve D On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:32 PM, wrote: > Scott, > > I'm in a rut, you can always come help me build, I'm making no progress > fast so anyone interested in coming to help build please feel free to come > and help. I'm hoping for second wind of builders enthusiasm.Just too > diluted and too far behind with work, business and medical issues I can > sure uses a kick start. > > John > > In a message dated 11/1/2013 1:45:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > Scott.liefeld@lacity.org writes: > > Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> > > Chris, > > That building bug just won't go away, even after you fly. I still miss > having something to build sometimes. Especially when I can't fly due to > weather. Have fun with it. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411920#411920 > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:22:07 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Prop carving From: "echobravo4" Hey John Let me know when you'll be at the hanger and what ya want to get done and I'll come help! -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413228#413228 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:00 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication From: "aerocarjake" Sweet...! Are the white tubes already in place and painted white, or are they where you propose tubing be added to make up for the door cutout...? -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413229#413229 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:36 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication From: "jarheadpilot82" Jake, That is the finished welded tubing. I was hoping you would take a look. How are things progressing? -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413230#413230 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:40:09 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! 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Corky used a piece of shop scrap aluminum to form the ground plane, and the ELT antenna and VHF COM antenna share the ground plane. The ELT is also mounted to the aluminum, since it is nicely accessible for inspection and service behind the seat in that location and it is pretty likely to survive a crash there as well. A short piece of coax leads from the COM antenna (a standard aircraft bent stainless steel whip) to a bulkhead fitting right above the pilot's right shoulder, where a short coax lead can be connected to a handheld when it's in use. The rest of the time there are no wires visible in the cockpit and the bulkhead fitting has a screw cap to cover it. The black thing at the bottom of the photo is a small pouch that is attached to the back of the hinged rear seatback/access panel. Yes, I know that there are aircraft cables in close proximity to the ELT and COM antennas and that they mess up the nice radiation patterns. Yes, I know that the ground plane is dimensioned less than ideally for optimum antenna efficiency. Yes, I know that the antennae are too close to each other and neither is optimally placed on the ground plane. Yes, I know that there are signal losses through the additional BNC connectors and coax. I can live with that. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413231#413231 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/groundplane_288.jpg ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:00 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! Hi Mac, You may send your List Contribution to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your support!! 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Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Michael Perez wrote: > > > > Ray, I am in the process of figuring out my radio gear and found this antenna interesting. I am not ready to move on anything as of yet, but if you do, please let me know how it works out. > > If God is your co-pilot...switch seats. > Michael Perez > Pietenpol HINT Videos > Karetaker Aero > www.karetakeraero.com > > > > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 10:24:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication From: "aerocarjake" Your fuselage looks great.. Progressing well here. I have been laying out the routes for the rudder cables. I am using pedals instead of the rudder bar so I am positioning a "pivot bar" in the aft fuselage to take the loads when I may push on both pedals at once - such as hard braking. 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