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0. 12:30 AM - Fund Raiser Behind By 25% - Please Contribute Today! (Matt Dralle)
1. 03:38 AM - It Sounds Too Good To Be True, But... (jarheadpilot82)
2. 04:21 AM - Re: How Much Fabric? (Jerry Dotson)
3. 05:02 AM - fuselage gussets (aviken)
4. 05:40 AM - Re: Prop carving (AircamperN11MS)
5. 05:44 AM - Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication (aerocarjake)
6. 06:35 AM - Re: How Much Fabric? (dgaldrich)
7. 07:20 AM - For those not on my Facebook page (Gary Boothe)
8. 07:59 AM - Re: Prop carving (bdewenter)
9. 08:03 AM - Re: fuselage gussets (bdewenter)
10. 08:25 AM - Re: complicated mock up (bdewenter)
11. 08:27 AM - Re: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication (Ray Krause)
12. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: Prop carving (Amsafetyc)
13. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: Prop carving (Steven Dortch)
14. 09:29 AM - Re: For those not on my Facebook page (John Francis)
15. 09:38 AM - Re: For those not on my Facebook page (Jack)
16. 09:52 AM - Re: Prop carving (womenfly2)
17. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Prop carving (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
18. 11:03 AM - Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication (aerocarjake)
19. 01:31 PM - Re: For those not on my Facebook page (Gary Boothe)
20. 03:08 PM - Re: For those not on my Facebook page (Jim Boyer)
21. 03:21 PM - Re: For those not on my Facebook page (Gary Boothe)
22. 03:21 PM - Re: For those not on my Facebook page (Ken Bickers)
23. 03:33 PM - Re: FAA Part 23 rewrite (bdewenter)
24. 03:48 PM - Re: For those not on my Facebook page (Gary Boothe)
25. 04:27 PM - Re: Re: Prop carving (danhelsper@aol.com)
26. 07:43 PM - Re: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication (Ray Krause)
27. 08:41 PM - Re: How Much Fabric? (taildrags)
28. 08:58 PM - Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication (aerocarjake)
29. 09:01 PM - Re: Re: How Much Fabric? (Ken Bickers)
30. 10:32 PM - Re: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication (Ray Krause)
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| Subject: | Fund Raiser Behind By 25% - Please Contribute Today! |
Dear Listers,
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| Subject: | It Sounds Too Good To Be True, But... |
You never know. Saw this Sale of an A65 motor linked on another forum. Somebody
may want to call and check on it.
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/for/4184434853.html
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: How Much Fabric? |
Terry I bought 45 yards and had just a little left. I figure that was perfect.
There is enough to cover a control surface or two. I used the 2.7 oz non certified.
It was 62" wide. Worked out great. I asked what the difference was between
certified and non-certified. The salesman said not much except the width. He
said "They both come from the same shipping address."
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Jerry Dotson
First flight June 16,2012
Flying in phase 2
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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| Subject: | fuselage gussets |
This may have been talked to death in the past, but I checked the search function
and didn't find my answer. I ordered some long pieces of ply after reading
the reprint of the 1929 glider manual instructions. according to what I read
the side gussets were 3/32 and the long gusset was also 3/32 thick... Now
I read my plans and it shows 1/8 thick. Have I screwed the pooch here? Hope
I don't have useless 2' by 8' pieces of expensive plywood.
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| Subject: | Re: Prop carving |
Well good morning John,
It has been awhile since I have seen your name pop up. If I told you that I will
be right over to help you, would you start tinkering with the plane before
I got there?
Wish I didn't live so far away from you. The 3000 miles gets in the way of any
physical help I could offer. I'll bet that if you did go out to the airport
and finished it, your knees would instantly feel better, at least enough to go
flying.
I know it is getting cold there already. Do you have a heater in the hangar? I'll
bet you could finish it in time for Brodhead. Wouldn't that be great?
Anyway, good to hear from you. Hope you can get through your slump. Happy holidays
and ask Santa for a white scarf and goggles for Christmas. That may be
all it takes.
Happy Landings,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication |
Yes, seems like Bernard's design is the simplest and anything else just gets a
bit more complex.... I'll post photos of my pivot bar sometime soon. It's a particularly
busy week here for me so we'll see when I can get to it.....
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: How Much Fabric? |
Hi Terry
You need at least 24 yards of the 72 inch wide stuff to do the wings the easy way.
The narrower fabric won't give you enough overlap on the leading and trailing
edges if you want to put one sheet on the top and one on the bottom. You
could always run the pieces perpendicular to the spars (one loop joined at the
trailing edge) and hide the lap joint at a rib with the rib lacing and pinked
tape if you had no other choice but the 60 inch wide stuff. The air doesn't
care.
45 yards total sounds about right and allows for at least one serious oops.
In deference to debris kicked up by tires and prop, you might consider using the
heavier weight cloth for the bottom of the fuselage and maybe the horizontal
stab/elevator.
Since you didn't ask, I recommend the Stewart system and get their DVDs. Makes
the job much easier.
Dave
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| Subject: | For those not on my Facebook page |
http://youtu.be/wldGpjeVepo
There is a King Air that flies skydivers from this airport (runway is
6,000'), and often flies opposite of the traffic as it enables him to get up
and back far quicker. I don't have a radio, so I miss out on all his
transmissions, though I know he announces all his goings and comings.
35 seconds into this clip, you will see me glance off to my right, as I see
him peel off to his left, at about 50', to avoid me. Whew!!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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| Subject: | Re: Prop carving |
Watch out for Dan...He's a four-blader Mary Beth
danhelsper(at)aol.com wrote:
> John,
>
> Here is some visual motivation for you my good friend. Time to put-on the Carhartz,
get back over to the hangar and fire-up the chainsaw. If you make a mistake,
just make the same one on the opposite side.....no worries! Next thing
you know its gonna be spring and you can test her out!
>
> Dan Helsper
> Puryear, TN
>
>
>
>
> --
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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| Subject: | Re: fuselage gussets |
If you are worried, about 1/32" (and I would not) perhaps make then a tad larger
(deeper not wider) or use them as is and add lightness.
My .02
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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| Subject: | Re: complicated mock up |
To keep a little shoulder room consider keeping the rear seat bay a full 24" wide,
then allow the fuse to taper AFTER the rear seat. I did and I think it give
the girl a real nice look.
aviken wrote:
> Hi fellows, please don't laugh too hard at my complex mock-up. Just wanted
to confirm that I would fit... I do touch a little at the shoulders, but I don't
think that will be a game changer . I really want to stay with the plans
but what do ya'll think? Well I guess the first thing I need to learn is how
to post a picture here , sorry.
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication |
Thanks, Jake. Must be nice living at an air museum!
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:44 AM, "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, seems like Bernard's design is the simplest and anything else just gets
a bit more complex.... I'll post photos of my pivot bar sometime soon. It's a
particularly busy week here for me so we'll see when I can get to it.....
>
> --------
> Jake Schultz - curator,
> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413357#413357
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| Subject: | Re: Prop carving |
Scott,
Working 7 days s week and trying to work with severe back pain really puts a crimp
in ones airplane building schedule. Unfortunately I'm not permitted a heater
or anything
With open flame according to the airport manager. Makes for colder work periods
as much as I would like to work more and hurt less it's been a struggle biting
cold doesn't help anything. Oh well! It's been progressively gettin worse since
last December. If I could improve the back some is be building again.
I got a year left if I concentrate hard on the finish line and 2 1/2 at a typical
build pace which I would prefer. Obviously time and cash play s big part of
the build process
I live in great hope of one day flying my build to Brodhead and taking my place
among my friends, whom I've admired their builds .
Right now want to build just not sure of what's
Be well and fly safe
John
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:39 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
>
>
> Well good morning John,
>
> It has been awhile since I have seen your name pop up. If I told you that I
will be right over to help you, would you start tinkering with the plane before
I got there?
>
> Wish I didn't live so far away from you. The 3000 miles gets in the way of any
physical help I could offer. I'll bet that if you did go out to the airport
and finished it, your knees would instantly feel better, at least enough to
go flying.
>
> I know it is getting cold there already. Do you have a heater in the hangar?
I'll bet you could finish it in time for Brodhead. Wouldn't that be great?
>
> Anyway, good to hear from you. Hope you can get through your slump. Happy
holidays and ask Santa for a white scarf and goggles for Christmas. That may
be all it takes.
>
> Happy Landings,
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413355#413355
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop carving |
John, I am great at being the "Good Idea Fairy!" Here is some advice
from my working on my planes in NW Oklahoma (near the North pole) (Ths
advice is free and may not be worth it.)
For the heat, Try insulated boots. I used to have a pair of German fleece
lined boots that had a styrofoam like insulation in the sole. Perfect for
standing guard on concrete in the German winter. (Worthless for walking
anywhere) Also Take a look at heated floor mats. They seem to run from $70
to $179. You can move them to where you are working. If I can keep my feet
and ears warm that is more than half of the battle. A heat lamp on the
parts you are going to work on
I don't know the particulars on your back, but I have a lot of old
infantryman back experience. I really suggest you see if some physical
therapy will help. Build (or buy) you some stools at various heights. Also
look at a kneeling chair. Shoes with various lifts work for some people.
Don't forget you are the CEO of your body and know what you can do and when
you are overdoing it.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Amsafetyc <amsafetyc@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> Working 7 days s week and trying to work with severe back pain really puts
> a crimp in ones airplane building schedule. Unfortunately I'm not permitted
> a heater or anything
> With open flame according to the airport manager. Makes for colder work
> periods as much as I would like to work more and hurt less it's been a
> struggle biting cold doesn't help anything. Oh well! It's been
> progressively gettin worse since last December. If I could improve the back
> some is be building again.
>
> I got a year left if I concentrate hard on the finish line and 2 1/2 at a
> typical build pace which I would prefer. Obviously time and cash play s big
> part of the build process
>
> I live in great hope of one day flying my build to Brodhead and taking my
> place among my friends, whom I've admired their builds .
>
> Right now want to build just not sure of what's
>
>
> Be well and fly safe
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:39 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
> wrote:
> >
> Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
> >
> > Well good morning John,
> >
> > It has been awhile since I have seen your name pop up. If I told you
> that I will be right over to help you, would you start tinkering with the
> plane before I got there?
> >
> > Wish I didn't live so far away from you. The 3000 miles gets in the way
> of any physical help I could offer. I'll bet that if you did go out to the
> airport and finished it, your knees would instantly feel better, at least
> enough to go flying.
> >
> > I know it is getting cold there already. Do you have a heater in the
> hangar? I'll bet you could finish it in time for Brodhead. Wouldn't that
> be great?
> >
> > Anyway, good to hear from you. Hope you can get through your slump.
> Happy holidays and ask Santa for a white scarf and goggles for Christmas.
> That may be all it takes.
> >
> > Happy Landings,
> >
> > --------
> > Scott Liefeld
> > Flying N11MS since March 1972
> > Steel Tube
> > C-85-12
> > Wire Wheels
> > Brodhead in 1996
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413355#413355
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: For those not on my Facebook page |
Oh Gary, that Corvair sounds sooo smooooth!
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John Francis
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| Subject: | Re: For those not on my Facebook page |
Gary great video and flawless landing!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Nov 18, 2013, at 9:17 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> http://youtu.be/wldGpjeVepo
>
> There is a King Air that flies skydivers from this airport (runway is 6,00
0=99), and often flies opposite of the traffic as it enables him to ge
t up and back far quicker. I don=99t have a radio, so I miss out on al
l his transmissions, though I know he announces all his goings and comings.
>
> 35 seconds into this clip, you will see me glance off to my right, as I se
e him peel off to his left, at about 50=99, to avoid me. Whew!!
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop carving |
Just curious, what engine is the 4-bladed prop for?
WF2
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| Subject: | Re: Prop carving |
A snowmobile suit will keep you warm nearly anywhere, maybe too warm. I bid
on two separate ones on ebay years ago and got them both for less than $50
each. Those thick wool socks like they sell at Bass Pro will keep your feet
warm too. Capilene underwear goes a long way and is very comfortable. With
capilene underwear, fleece outer layer and a snowmobile suit you could stand
well below freezing weather and strong winds also.
What has been working for me and I say "for me" before anyone jumps in to
start flaming me is stretching. I put one foot up on the commode and hold
onto the shower door, lean forward while breathing and stretch my hamstring.
Then I do the same on the other one. After that I try to bend over and touch
my toes. Never been able to touch them yet in the last 60 yrs. Used to have
horrible lower back pain from off position bending and lifting things and
this is the only thing that works for me. When I feel a kink coming I
stretch and then an hour later do it again until it stops.
Joining scrounge dawgs and helping work on the group pietenpol project is
a tremendous motivator for me along with learning things to do and a lot of
not to dos.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Amsafetyc
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Prop carving
Scott,
Working 7 days s week and trying to work with severe back pain really puts a
crimp in ones airplane building schedule. Unfortunately I'm not permitted a
heater or anything
With open flame according to the airport manager. Makes for colder work
periods as much as I would like to work more and hurt less it's been a
struggle biting cold doesn't help anything. Oh well! It's been progressively
gettin worse since last December. If I could improve the back some is be
building again.
I got a year left if I concentrate hard on the finish line and 2 1/2 at a
typical build pace which I would prefer. Obviously time and cash play s big
part of the build process
I live in great hope of one day flying my build to Brodhead and taking my
place among my friends, whom I've admired their builds .
Right now want to build just not sure of what's
Be well and fly safe
John
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:39 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
> wrote:
>
> <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
>
> Well good morning John,
>
> It has been awhile since I have seen your name pop up. If I told you that
> I will be right over to help you, would you start tinkering with the plane
> before I got there?
>
> Wish I didn't live so far away from you. The 3000 miles gets in the way
> of any physical help I could offer. I'll bet that if you did go out to
> the airport and finished it, your knees would instantly feel better, at
> least enough to go flying.
>
> I know it is getting cold there already. Do you have a heater in the
> hangar? I'll bet you could finish it in time for Brodhead. Wouldn't that
> be great?
>
> Anyway, good to hear from you. Hope you can get through your slump.
> Happy holidays and ask Santa for a white scarf and goggles for Christmas.
> That may be all it takes.
>
> Happy Landings,
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413355#413355
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication |
Thanks... It's really just my decor - but I strive for it to look like an air museum.
Here are a couple shots.......
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | For those not on my Facebook page |
Thanks, Jack. I am amazed at the difference with the new tail wheel!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: For those not on my Facebook page
Gary great video and flawless landing!
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
On Nov 18, 2013, at 9:17 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
http://youtu.be/wldGpjeVepo
There is a King Air that flies skydivers from this airport (runway is
6,000=99), and often flies opposite of the traffic as it enables
him to get up and back far quicker. I don=99t have a radio, so I
miss out on all his transmissions, though I know he announces all his
goings and comings.
35 seconds into this clip, you will see me glance off to my right, as I
see him peel off to his left, at about 50=99, to avoid me. Whew!!
Gary Boothe
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| Subject: | Re: For those not on my Facebook page |
Hi Gary,
I enjoyed seeing the video and wish I were making more progress. Do be care
ful around that King Air; thats a lot bigger and faster and I don't want to
see it hurt a Piet. Spam can pilots can get complacent about watching for
other traffic.
Cheers,
Jim
=C2-
PS I am trying to get to good scard joints for the leading edge of my left
wing
=C2-
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| Subject: | For those not on my Facebook page |
Right, Jim! I think I would end up just like one of the many bugs on his
leading edge! Fortunately, he=99s a very good pilot and looks out
for the rest of us!
Good luck with the scarf joints!
Gary Boothe
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Boyer
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: For those not on my Facebook page
Hi Gary,
I enjoyed seeing the video and wish I were making more progress. Do be
careful around that King Air; thats a lot bigger and faster and I don't
want to see it hurt a Piet. Spam can pilots can get complacent about
watching for other traffic.
Cheers,
Jim
PS I am trying to get to good scard joints for the leading edge of my
left wing
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| Subject: | Re: For those not on my Facebook page |
Gary, I concur with Jim. We have a very active skydive operation at my
home airport. Those pilots seem to be unable to see anyone unless they are
talking on the radio or causing blips on the skydive TCAS, and even then
sometimes have troubles seeing other traffic. And they often define their
own traffic patterns. I'd suggest getting a radio, at least for the times
when you are in the traffic pattern. Cheers, Ken
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Gary,
> I enjoyed seeing the video and wish I were making more progress. Do be
> careful around that King Air; thats a lot bigger and faster and I don't
> want to see it hurt a Piet. Spam can pilots can get complacent about
> watching for other traffic.
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
> PS I am trying to get to good scard joints for the leading edge of my left
> wing
>
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| Subject: | Re: FAA Part 23 rewrite |
Steve could be an other world alien perhaps, as he is using 'alien' terms such
as prop pitch change bearing ...what is this mysterious thing? Should we sacrifice
a GN-1?
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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| Subject: | For those not on my Facebook page |
Do doubt about it, Ken!...but I was in a guy's hangar yesterday, and his
radio was turned on. I asked what airport he was listening to, because of
all the chatter.it was ours!! One guy was even giving others permission to
land ahead of him!! Oh, I wish I had been in the pattern at that minute.he'd
be screaming is bloody head off at me.and me not hearing a word!!!
Gary Boothe
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: For those not on my Facebook page
Gary, I concur with Jim. We have a very active skydive operation at my home
airport. Those pilots seem to be unable to see anyone unless they are
talking on the radio or causing blips on the skydive TCAS, and even then
sometimes have troubles seeing other traffic. And they often define their
own traffic patterns. I'd suggest getting a radio, at least for the times
when you are in the traffic pattern. Cheers, Ken
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Gary,
I enjoyed seeing the video and wish I were making more progress. Do be
careful around that King Air; thats a lot bigger and faster and I don't want
to see it hurt a Piet. Spam can pilots can get complacent about watching for
other traffic.
Cheers,
Jim
PS I am trying to get to good scard joints for the leading edge of my left
wing
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| Subject: | Re: Prop carving |
P & W R-4360. But it may be too much prop for it. We'll see.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: womenfly2 <Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 18, 2013 12:55 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Prop carving
Just curious, what engine is the 4-bladed prop for?
WF2
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication |
Way too cool, wish I could visit sometime, where are you located?
Ray
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 18, 2013, at 11:02 AM, "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks... It's really just my decor - but I strive for it to look like an air
museum. Here are a couple shots.......
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> Jake Schultz - curator,
> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: How Much Fabric? |
I have a couple of useless and snide comments about this, and then one personal
observation about the fabric "weight". Useless and snide comment to Ken Bickers:
do you realize what you get when you multiply 37 yards x 3 ft. to the yard
x 6 ft. wide? Are you sure you want to fly that thing? ;o)
Useless and snide comment to Jerry regarding certified and non-certified fabrics
both coming from the same shipping address: the Chevy Malibu ($20,000) and the
Cadillac ELR ($75,000) come from the same plant in Michigan ;o)
And a personal observation on fabric weight, not to be argumentative but simply
to throw in my (somewhat limited) personal experience: Scout is covered with
Poly-Fiber "uncertified light", which I believe is 1.87 oz/sq.yd. I have operated
the airplane off of grass, dirt, turf, and of course asphalt and concrete
with plenty of gravel and debris to be thrown around. Although the airplane
has gotten plenty dirty, oily, and nasty, I have never found any damage to the
fabric anywhere on the airplane from FOD or anything else. In fact, it takes
a pretty determined effort to punch through it if you're not using a knife or
something with a sharp edge. I've found plenty of paint chipping and wearing
on the lower landing gear legs, spring struts, tailwheel and spring, but no visible
damage to the fabric. If I were to recover the aircraft for whatever reason,
I would go with the lightweight fabric again and just patch it if I ever
had a cut or tear to repair.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication |
Near Seattle... fine Piet-ple always welcome.....!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: How Much Fabric? |
oh dear, Oscar. I hadn't done the math. Fortunately, I added another 5
yards, which takes the total from the dreaded and no doubt possessed 666 to
756. Though given all of the wastage, who knows, it might actually be in
that danger zone. I guess I'll just have to live on the edge and take my
chances flying the thing.
The real question is why you are doing math calculations on things like
this. You clearly need a hobby -- maybe flying or building.
On a more serious note, it is interesting what all of this weighs. Were
there no wastage, the total weight of the uncertified 1.8 oz fabric would
be just under 9 1/2 lbs. Given the large sections that had to be cut off,
I'm guessing the fabric itself weighed somewhere in the 8 lb range. Tapes,
gussets, thread, and glue would add a few more pounds, perhaps doubling the
total weight to somewhere in the range of 16 lbs for the whole airplane.
Even if this is off by a few pounds, it is still impressive how light
fabric covering is.
Cheers, Ken
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:41 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have a couple of useless and snide comments about this, and then one
> personal observation about the fabric "weight". Useless and snide comment
> to Ken Bickers: do you realize what you get when you multiply 37 yards x 3
> ft. to the yard x 6 ft. wide? Are you sure you want to fly that thing? ;o)
>
> Useless and snide comment to Jerry regarding certified and non-certified
> fabrics both coming from the same shipping address: the Chevy Malibu
> ($20,000) and the Cadillac ELR ($75,000) come from the same plant in
> Michigan ;o)
>
> And a personal observation on fabric weight, not to be argumentative but
> simply to throw in my (somewhat limited) personal experience: Scout is
> covered with Poly-Fiber "uncertified light", which I believe is 1.87
> oz/sq.yd. I have operated the airplane off of grass, dirt, turf, and of
> course asphalt and concrete with plenty of gravel and debris to be thrown
> around. Although the airplane has gotten plenty dirty, oily, and nasty, I
> have never found any damage to the fabric anywhere on the airplane from FOD
> or anything else. In fact, it takes a pretty determined effort to punch
> through it if you're not using a knife or something with a sharp edge.
> I've found plenty of paint chipping and wearing on the lower landing gear
> legs, spring struts, tailwheel and spring, but no visible damage to the
> fabric. If I were to recover the aircraft for whatever reason, I would go
> with the lightweight fabric again and just patch it if I ever had a cut or
> tear to repair.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413410#413410
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication |
I have a grand daughter at the University of Portland, not too far away, we will
be visiting her sometime.
Ray
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:58 PM, "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Near Seattle... fine Piet-ple always welcome.....!
>
> --------
> Jake Schultz - curator,
> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413411#413411
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