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     1. 09:43 AM - Re: Corvair College 28, 28 Feb - 2 Mar 2014, San Marcos, TX (Ken Bickers)
     2. 01:21 PM - Re: Re: steel tube builder directory (Glen Schweizer)
     3. 01:44 PM - Re: steel tube builder directory (Bill Church)
     4. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: steel tube builder directory (jorge lizarraga)
     5. 03:38 PM - Re: steel tube builder directory (Pietflyer1977)
     6. 04:38 PM - Re: Corvair College 28, 28 Feb - 2 Mar 2014, San Marcos, TX (bdewenter)
     7. 05:20 PM - Re: steel tube builder directory (nightmare)
     8. 05:31 PM - Re: steel tube builder directory (nightmare)
     9. 06:08 PM - Re: steel tube builder directory (Pietflyer1977)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Corvair College 28, 28 Feb - 2 Mar 2014, San  Marcos, | 
      TX
      
      Kevin, I'm planning my spring around being in San Marcos for CC#28.  I
      haven't been able to attend one of these before.  At only a thousand miles,
      your's is the closest to me, so far.  I'm wondering about the logistics of
      trying to bring my motor.  It is already assembled (Roy's Garage did the
      bottom end; a local engine shop did the heads), with virtually all of WW's
      components.  I am hoping to be ready for the first run early in the new
      year, but could wait until the college.  I guess what I'm wondering is
      whether I should come and watch and learn or drop the engine off the front
      of the fuselage and crate it for transportation to Texas.  And if I were to
      bring it, I'd also be curious what pieces to bring with me (e.g., intake
      and carb, exhaust system, baffling, etc.).  Any insights/suggestions would
      be appreciated.  Cheers, Ken
      
      
      On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:43 AM, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>wrote:
      
      > kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
      >
      > I've posted important information on lodging.  Please check the Facebook
      > page:
      >
      > https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Corvair-College-28/320305497999282
      >
      > --------
      > Kevin "Axel" Purtee
      > Rebuilding NX899KP
      > Austin/San Marcos, TX
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      > Read this topic online here:
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      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413424#413424
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| Subject:  | Re: steel tube builder directory | 
      
      
      
      Where does a person find plans for a steel fuse? 
      
      
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      On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:00 PM PST biplan53 wrote:
      
      >
      >I am building a steel tube Piet. I know what you mean about looking for pictures
      of steel tube planes. It seems that Jake has put more pictures out than most
      builders have. I am trying to build build a mount for an AC fiberglass seat.
      >
      >--------
      >Building steel fuselage aircamper.
      >
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      >Read this topic online here:
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      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413633#413633
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| Subject:  | Re: steel tube builder directory | 
      
      
      Glen,
      
      Plans for both the wood fuselage and the steel tube fuselage are included in the
      plan set sold by the Pietenpol family.
      http://community.pressenter.net/~apietenp/BHPietenpolAndSonsAirCamperAircraftPurchasePlans.html
      However, the details are a bit sparse for the steel tube version.  The reprints
      of the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual provide some useful additional information.
      Bill C.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413666#413666
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: steel tube builder directory | 
      
      -hello Glen I haved set of-blueprint original- from piet,if you like 
      to haved sed my your adress, these is from fucelaje only jope that helpyou 
      jorge from hanford=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:51 PM, Bi
      ll Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote:=0A  =0A--> Pietenpol-List message
       posted by: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>=0A=0AGlen,=0A=0APlans fo
      r both the wood fuselage and the steel tube fuselage are included in the pl
      an set sold by the Pietenpol family.=0Ahttp://community.pressenter.net/~api
      etenp/BHPietenpolAndSonsAirCamperAircraftPurchasePlans.html=0AHowever, the 
      details are a bit sparse for the steel tube version.- The reprints of the
       1932 Flying and Glider Manual provide some useful additional information.
      =0ABill C.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.ma
      ======
      
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| Subject:  | Re: steel tube builder directory | 
      
      
      I would like to be included on the list and have others contact info. I am planning
      on building a steel tube fuselage. Have tubing already and plan to start
      on it in a couple months. Real close to finishing my wings. Rob
      
      Rob Stoinoff
      Stoinoff's Restorations
      56 Progress Drive
      Batesville, IN 47006
      812-932-9000
      www.stoinoff.com
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413674#413674
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Corvair College 28, 28 Feb - 2 Mar 2014, San Marcos, | 
      TX
      
      
      Ken,
      
      You might be putting Kevin into a tough spot asking if you should crate up your
      engine for a 1,000 mile trip.  It really depends on how experienced an engine
      builder you are, and what you might need (tools, parts, experience, knowledge)
      to make sure your first engine run is a success.
      
      Based on my experiences from attending 5 colleges now, I can offer you this:
      
      If you are NOT a gear head
          - If you have an issue during your first engine run, William is there to help
      - he is very smart!
          - William brings the setup to pre-oil your engine and to visually ensure oil
      is flowing from all the rocker assemblies
          - William will ensure you have set your initial timing.  If you did it right
      (or admit you are not sure) he will show you how to set it / check it at WOT/full
      advance.
      
      If you ARE a gear head
          - If you find an issue at the last minute William has the parts and tools to
      overcome many common simple first start issues
      
      You will never regret the fellowship.  Along with several others, I continue to
      attend the colleges in Barnwell because of the people.
      .
      As to what to bring, or not, William has his standard intake system (intake pipes
      and carb).  If you have a non "WW" standard intake it may be difficult to hookup
      to his test stand.  He provides an exhaust system, battery, fuel, baffle
      - everything most of us do NOT have when we want to run our engines for the first
      time.  It is actually best to use his test stand components as it speeds
      up the engine test stand usage.  
      
      I hope this helps.  Feel free to opine rdewenter@woh.rr.com
      
      --------
      Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
      Dayton OH
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413678#413678
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: steel tube builder directory | 
      
      
      As Bill said, buy both. I was originally disappointed with lack of detail with
      steel plans and decided to build the wood fuselage instead. But then after building
      ribs, center section  and tail feathers,  and spending hours looking at
      those plans, I realized building the steel tube version was just a matter of looking
      back and forth between the wood and steel plans and in many cases just
      figuring out where to weld tabs in place of bolting fittings.
         There are a few "gotchyas" though. Thats why I wanted to have some type of tuber
      list that guys could fall back on. Looks like Jacks database will do a fine
      job at that.
      
      --------
      Paul Donahue
      Started 8-3-12
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413680#413680
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: steel tube builder directory | 
      
      
      Rob just looked at your website. WOW WOW WOW. Beautiful work, and such a wide range
      of cool vehicles. Cant wait to see your piet.
      
      --------
      Paul Donahue
      Started 8-3-12
      do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413681#413681
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: steel tube builder directory | 
      
      
      Thanks Paul.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413685#413685
      
      
 
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