---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/21/13: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:43 AM - Re: Corvair College 28, 28 Feb - 2 Mar 2014, San Marcos, TX (Ken Bickers) 2. 01:21 PM - Re: Re: steel tube builder directory (Glen Schweizer) 3. 01:44 PM - Re: steel tube builder directory (Bill Church) 4. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: steel tube builder directory (jorge lizarraga) 5. 03:38 PM - Re: steel tube builder directory (Pietflyer1977) 6. 04:38 PM - Re: Corvair College 28, 28 Feb - 2 Mar 2014, San Marcos, TX (bdewenter) 7. 05:20 PM - Re: steel tube builder directory (nightmare) 8. 05:31 PM - Re: steel tube builder directory (nightmare) 9. 06:08 PM - Re: steel tube builder directory (Pietflyer1977) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:38 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair College 28, 28 Feb - 2 Mar 2014, San Marcos, TX From: Ken Bickers Kevin, I'm planning my spring around being in San Marcos for CC#28. I haven't been able to attend one of these before. At only a thousand miles, your's is the closest to me, so far. I'm wondering about the logistics of trying to bring my motor. It is already assembled (Roy's Garage did the bottom end; a local engine shop did the heads), with virtually all of WW's components. I am hoping to be ready for the first run early in the new year, but could wait until the college. I guess what I'm wondering is whether I should come and watch and learn or drop the engine off the front of the fuselage and crate it for transportation to Texas. And if I were to bring it, I'd also be curious what pieces to bring with me (e.g., intake and carb, exhaust system, baffling, etc.). Any insights/suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:43 AM, kevinpurtee wrote: > kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> > > I've posted important information on lodging. Please check the Facebook > page: > > https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Corvair-College-28/320305497999282 > > -------- > Kevin "Axel" Purtee > Rebuilding NX899KP > Austin/San Marcos, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413424#413424 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:12 PM PST US From: Glen Schweizer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: steel tube builder directory Where does a person find plans for a steel fuse? ------------------------------ On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:00 PM PST biplan53 wrote: > >I am building a steel tube Piet. I know what you mean about looking for pictures of steel tube planes. It seems that Jake has put more pictures out than most builders have. I am trying to build build a mount for an AC fiberglass seat. > >-------- >Building steel fuselage aircamper. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413633#413633 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:44:22 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: steel tube builder directory From: "Bill Church" Glen, Plans for both the wood fuselage and the steel tube fuselage are included in the plan set sold by the Pietenpol family. http://community.pressenter.net/~apietenp/BHPietenpolAndSonsAirCamperAircraftPurchasePlans.html However, the details are a bit sparse for the steel tube version. The reprints of the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual provide some useful additional information. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413666#413666 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:26:51 PM PST US From: jorge lizarraga Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: steel tube builder directory -hello Glen I haved set of-blueprint original- from piet,if you like to haved sed my your adress, these is from fucelaje only jope that helpyou jorge from hanford=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:51 PM, Bi ll Church wrote:=0A =0A--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bill Church" =0A=0AGlen,=0A=0APlans fo r both the wood fuselage and the steel tube fuselage are included in the pl an set sold by the Pietenpol family.=0Ahttp://community.pressenter.net/~api etenp/BHPietenpolAndSonsAirCamperAircraftPurchasePlans.html=0AHowever, the details are a bit sparse for the steel tube version.- The reprints of the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual provide some useful additional information. =0ABill C.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.ma ====== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:01 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: steel tube builder directory From: "Pietflyer1977" I would like to be included on the list and have others contact info. I am planning on building a steel tube fuselage. Have tubing already and plan to start on it in a couple months. Real close to finishing my wings. Rob Rob Stoinoff Stoinoff's Restorations 56 Progress Drive Batesville, IN 47006 812-932-9000 www.stoinoff.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413674#413674 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:38:17 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair College 28, 28 Feb - 2 Mar 2014, San Marcos, TX From: "bdewenter" Ken, You might be putting Kevin into a tough spot asking if you should crate up your engine for a 1,000 mile trip. It really depends on how experienced an engine builder you are, and what you might need (tools, parts, experience, knowledge) to make sure your first engine run is a success. Based on my experiences from attending 5 colleges now, I can offer you this: If you are NOT a gear head - If you have an issue during your first engine run, William is there to help - he is very smart! - William brings the setup to pre-oil your engine and to visually ensure oil is flowing from all the rocker assemblies - William will ensure you have set your initial timing. If you did it right (or admit you are not sure) he will show you how to set it / check it at WOT/full advance. If you ARE a gear head - If you find an issue at the last minute William has the parts and tools to overcome many common simple first start issues You will never regret the fellowship. Along with several others, I continue to attend the colleges in Barnwell because of the people. .. As to what to bring, or not, William has his standard intake system (intake pipes and carb). If you have a non "WW" standard intake it may be difficult to hookup to his test stand. He provides an exhaust system, battery, fuel, baffle - everything most of us do NOT have when we want to run our engines for the first time. It is actually best to use his test stand components as it speeds up the engine test stand usage. I hope this helps. Feel free to opine rdewenter@woh.rr.com -------- Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter Dayton OH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413678#413678 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:44 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: steel tube builder directory From: "nightmare" As Bill said, buy both. I was originally disappointed with lack of detail with steel plans and decided to build the wood fuselage instead. But then after building ribs, center section and tail feathers, and spending hours looking at those plans, I realized building the steel tube version was just a matter of looking back and forth between the wood and steel plans and in many cases just figuring out where to weld tabs in place of bolting fittings. There are a few "gotchyas" though. Thats why I wanted to have some type of tuber list that guys could fall back on. Looks like Jacks database will do a fine job at that. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413680#413680 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:49 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: steel tube builder directory From: "nightmare" Rob just looked at your website. WOW WOW WOW. Beautiful work, and such a wide range of cool vehicles. Cant wait to see your piet. -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413681#413681 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:14 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: steel tube builder directory From: "Pietflyer1977" Thanks Paul. 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