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1. 04:50 AM - Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges (Larry Williams)
2. 06:11 AM - John's wing (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 07:06 AM - Re: John's wing (John Francis)
4. 07:14 AM - Re: beauty shot at 25 months (John Francis)
5. 08:04 AM - Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges (regreen1954)
6. 10:31 AM - Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges (jarheadpilot82)
7. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
8. 12:36 PM - Re: Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges (skipgadd@earthlink.net)
9. 01:16 PM - Re: beauty shot at 25 months (nightmare)
10. 06:12 PM - Rib Support Pieces (John Francis)
11. 07:40 PM - Re: Rib Support Pieces (jarheadpilot82)
12. 07:49 PM - Re: Rib Support Pieces (jarheadpilot82)
13. 08:50 PM - Re: Windshield thickness (taildrags)
14. 08:54 PM - Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges (taildrags)
15. 08:58 PM - Re: beauty shot at 25 months (taildrags)
16. 09:07 PM - Re: Rib Support Pieces (taildrags)
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Subject: | Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges |
I have one of the last sets of hinges that Vi made!!
They are all yours for $4500.00 and they come with a mostly complete Pietenpol
Sky Scout project that includes a converted model "A" and a Forrest Lovely brass
radiator.
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L.V.Williams
XCG, XCMR,EPP
USHPA, EAA, AMA
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Nice wing John! Another few seasons and you'll be flying!
Douwe
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Thanks Douwe. I just completed my flight training with Emerson Stewart in Waynesville.
I know that is where you kept your Piet for a while. They had one of
their Cubs damaged in a wind storm this year and only had one available for
training. We even took the Champ up one time. That really slowed me down and
I found myself flying only twice a month. Now I am talking with Martha Lunken
trying to schedule the check flight around all this snow and crappy weather.
I hope we get it in before the month is out.
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John Francis
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Subject: | Re: beauty shot at 25 months |
The size really depends on the ribs you built. Here is a better shot of what I
did. Just measure what you need and buy the board. I rough shaped it on a table
saw and then used a hand plane to round it.
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John Francis
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Subject: | Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges |
Larry,
The price is a little steeper that I thought! :) If I was building a Scout I would
jump at the chance. Thanks for responding.
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Rich Green, CFI
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Subject: | Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges |
When I was at Corvair College in Barnwell SC last month I spent a great deal of
time going over P.F. Beck and Don Harper's Pietenpols. Don used to make and sell
hinges similar to Vi Kapler's design. I asked him if he still made them but
he said no as he no longer had access to a machine shop.
He did, however, suggest an alternative that just about any one could make. I have
included a very rough drawing I made of his idea. No laughing at my artwork,
Douwe.
Your thoughts?
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges |
I have a set of hinges similar to Don's alternative design. Mine are .063
4130 and 1/2", otherwise the same, made by my friend Gary Barger. I think
we got the plan from a guru at Brodhead years ago. I got a set of Don's
aluminum hinges so I don't need these. They are already in primer.
$25. post paid to cont US. Write me off list.
Skip
> [Original Message]
> From: jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 12/8/2013 1:33:03 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges
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<jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
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> When I was at Corvair College in Barnwell SC last month I spent a great
deal of time going over P.F. Beck and Don Harper's Pietenpols. Don used to
make and sell hinges similar to Vi Kapler's design. I asked him if he still
made them but he said no as he no longer had access to a machine shop.
>
> He did, however, suggest an alternative that just about any one could
make. I have included a very rough drawing I made of his idea. No laughing
at my artwork, Douwe.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_798.jpg
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Subject: | Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges |
They are sold.
Skip
> [Original Message]
> From: skipgadd@earthlink.net <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 12/8/2013 2:34:49 PM
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges
>
<skipgadd@earthlink.net>
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> I have a set of hinges similar to Don's alternative design. Mine are .063
> 4130 and 1/2", otherwise the same, made by my friend Gary Barger. I think
> we got the plan from a guru at Brodhead years ago. I got a set of Don's
> aluminum hinges so I don't need these. They are already in primer.
> $25. post paid to cont US. Write me off list.
> Skip
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Date: 12/8/2013 1:33:03 PM
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges
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> <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
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> > When I was at Corvair College in Barnwell SC last month I spent a great
> deal of time going over P.F. Beck and Don Harper's Pietenpols. Don used to
> make and sell hinges similar to Vi Kapler's design. I asked him if he
still
> made them but he said no as he no longer had access to a machine shop.
> >
> > He did, however, suggest an alternative that just about any one could
> make. I have included a very rough drawing I made of his idea. No laughing
> at my artwork, Douwe.
> >
> > Your thoughts?
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> > Semper Fi,
> >
> > Terry Hand
> > Athens, GA
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> > Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: beauty shot at 25 months |
Thats amazing. No swearing. Prozac must be kicking in.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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Subject: | Rib Support Pieces |
I might be able to check the archives if I knew the proper name for these longitudinal
rib supports. Some have them and some dont. I dont see them in the plans
and was wondering if they are necessary?
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John Francis
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Subject: | Re: Rib Support Pieces |
John,
I think they are typically referred to as, simply, verticals.
But I did not check the archives either. [Wink]
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: Rib Support Pieces |
Stringers, I bellieve is the correct term, although, someone please chime in if
I am incorrect.
The attached screenshot is from page 1-13 of the Handbook linked below-
http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aircraft/amt_airframe_handbook/media/ama_ch01.pdf
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: Windshield thickness |
I've been working on various squawks and "upgrades" (?) to my airplane. One thing
that was bugging me was a slight fuel leak at one of the fittings on the tank,
which is inside the front cockpit, and it is a royal pain to work down under
there by climbing into the cockpit inverted and in the shape of a pretzel.
So, I bit the bullet and pulled off the top cowling so I could pull the fuel
tank to rework the shutoff valve and tank fittings.
While I had the top cowling off, I figured I might as well make a new front windscreen
since it's got a bit of crazing and scratches that make it nearly impossible
to see through when flying into the sun. And flying into the sun is where
I'm most vulnerable to the raking fire from the Hun's machine guns ;o) There
are also some cracks starting to spread out from the holes where the mounting
bolts (AN3) are, along the base. The windscreens on my airplane are .125"
Plexiglas and are quite stiff.
Based on the discussion here on the list last month, I decided to try .080" thick
plexi this time, since the 1/8" stuff is very hard to bend into the required
arc, and it seems like the forced bend has contributed to the cracks at the
mounting holes. I bought a 2'x2' piece of .080" plexi from Aircraft Spruce for
$11.85 and laid out the old windscreen on it as a template. Turns out I can
get two windscreens out of this piece of plexi, so I think I'm going to just
go ahead and replace both front and back and get it over with. Today I cut out
the first one with my Dremel, using the small abrasive cutoff wheels that you
can get for them. Piece of cake. Once I get them installed and flying, I'll
report back on any differences in stiffness or deflection in flight, but I don't
think there will be any. Not bad... 6 bucks apiece for new windscreens.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: Rudder and Elevator Hinges |
Does anyone have a photo of the hinges that Vi used to sell? Just the hinges,
not installed in place yet?
Thanks.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: beauty shot at 25 months |
The slick way seems to be to use stair handrail stock for the leading edge. I
believe this is what Mike Cuy and others have done. The majority of the shaping
is already done, and besides some minor smoothing, it only requires one angled
cut through the table saw to get it ready to attach to the rib noses. Now,
I have no idea if handrail material weighs more than just spruce stock (probably),
but the effort to shape it is reduced.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: Rib Support Pieces |
I believe someone on this list posted that rather than fiddle with wood pieces
for 'stringers', they used some of that fiberglass-reinforced plastic strapping
tape that cardboard boxes are sometimes banded with. Not the sticky tape that
comes on a roll... the stiff white or black stuff. Weighs next to nothing
and you could probably tow a car with it.
I'm just not sure it's necessary to use those stringers, since the ribs are all
laced to the fabric. The ribs don't have the ability to shift or deflect once
they are laced in place.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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