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1. 04:44 AM - Re: one extra rib (womenfly2)
2. 05:38 AM - Re: Fuel Lines and Cabanes (Bill Church)
3. 07:54 AM - Re: adding trim (TriScout)
4. 08:00 AM - Re: Cold Flights (AircamperN11MS)
5. 08:21 AM - Re: one extra rib (AircamperN11MS)
6. 08:56 AM - Re: one extra rib (Braniff1966)
7. 09:01 AM - Re: apology (Steven Dortch)
8. 09:03 AM - Re: apology (Steven Dortch)
9. 09:43 AM - Re: apology (Michael Perez)
10. 09:52 AM - Arrow Fest III...sorta... (Michael Perez)
11. 02:49 PM - Off Subject (Barry Davis)
12. 04:30 PM - Re: Off Subject (Michael Perez)
13. 05:17 PM - Re: apology (aviken)
14. 08:48 PM - Re: adding trim (taildrags)
15. 08:57 PM - Re: Off Subject (taildrags)
16. 09:16 PM - Re: Arrow Fest III...sorta... (taildrags)
17. 09:36 PM - Re: adding trim (Braniff1966)
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| Subject: | Re: one extra rib |
... Adam was a cheap bastard.
LOL,
WF2
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Lines and Cabanes |
im confused. I thought we were here to get tips and get help with building. instead
i get an email about glass cockpits and ntsb reports. I think the subject
should be st uck to but no one asked me. stay with this site and filter out
all of the bs. there is good info but also lots of bs that should be handled off
site with personal e mails.
:)
Braniff1966 wrote:
> if you are a glass cockpit guy consider looking at the ntsb site recorded hearing
on the asiana accident. watch dave mckennys portion group three. he is my
human factors chairman
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...btw, that part # for that T-handle cable is 05-15200 at Spruce if you're interested
in the same cable...$26. It's 12' in length. Just cut it to fit.
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KLNC
A65-8
N2308C
AN Hardware
Airframe 724TT
W72CK-42 Sensenich
Standard Factory GN-1
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| Subject: | Re: Cold Flights |
Hello Pieters,
I find it very interesting to read about how we are using our birds. Most would
consider them fair weather airplanes and to some that is all they are. I for
one do like the occasional cold flight. Mostly when flying over a fresh snow fall.
One flight in particular my wife and I flew over some pine covered mountains
about 100' above the trees after a heavy snow fall. Very pretty flight, the
engine and prop noise knocked the snow from the tree branches as we flew by.
The flight was so beautiful that we forgot that we were even cold. Try it if
you ever get the chance.
Happy holidays to all and congratulations to all who made first flights in 2013.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: one extra rib |
Thank you all for the huge laugh this morning. It took me a minute to digest the
first question.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: one extra rib |
I hate to waste anything ...a tree even ifs its only a spruce had to give its
life for that to make that rib :-)
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I now try look at uncle Tony's books and then do a quick search through the
archives. But often I need the question answered my way. I have posted
questions and got no answers so I restate the question from a different.
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>wrote:
> jack@bedfordlandings.com>
>
> Apology accepted. There's a lot of good info available here, but as Ryan
> Mueller commented, many of the questions being raised have been answered
> many times over the last 16 years, and people get tired of answering them
> again, when the questions and answers are available in the archives.
>
> And most of the questions can be abswered by just reading Tony Bingelis'
> books and actually thinking about the problem and coming up with a
> solution,
> instead of immediately asking someone else how they solved the problem. To
> be honest, most of the fun I had bulding my Pietenpol was coming up with
> solutions to these problems.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aviken
> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 9:35 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: apology
>
>
> I wanted to eat a little crow here. I made a snide remark about the list
> while replying to another question. it seems I had asked nearly the same
> question a few days earlier and although 70 or so folks read my question
> no one answered. I admire all these builders here and im gonna need some
> help on this journey I don't want to be considered un-gratefull. Please
> accept my apology I don't want to be a bad egg.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416084#416084
>
>
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Oops, dog hit the keyboard, Really!
I now try look at uncle Tony's books and then do a quick search through the
archives. But often I need the question answered my way. I have posted
questions and got no answers so I restate the question from a different
angle. Sometimes I am then given good directions to Uncle Tony or the list.
Don't Stop asking.
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Steven Dortch
<steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>wrote:
> I now try look at uncle Tony's books and then do a quick search through
> the archives. But often I need the question answered my way. I have posted
> questions and got no answers so I restate the question from a different.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Jack Phillips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>wrote:
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>> jack@bedfordlandings.com>
>>
>> Apology accepted. There's a lot of good info available here, but as Ryan
>> Mueller commented, many of the questions being raised have been answered
>> many times over the last 16 years, and people get tired of answering them
>> again, when the questions and answers are available in the archives.
>>
>> And most of the questions can be abswered by just reading Tony Bingelis'
>> books and actually thinking about the problem and coming up with a
>> solution,
>> instead of immediately asking someone else how they solved the problem.
>> To
>> be honest, most of the fun I had bulding my Pietenpol was coming up with
>> solutions to these problems.
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>> NX899JP
>> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aviken
>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 9:35 PM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: apology
>>
>>
>> I wanted to eat a little crow here. I made a snide remark about the list
>> while replying to another question. it seems I had asked nearly the same
>> question a few days earlier and although 70 or so folks read my question
>> no one answered. I admire all these builders here and im gonna need
>> some
>> help on this journey I don't want to be considered un-gratefull. Please
>> accept my apology I don't want to be a bad egg.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416084#416084
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No apology required, although I do appreciate you doing so.
I do not believe that Matt has put any type of question asking restriction or repeated
question asking space usage restriction on his, (this) site, so I am one
that feels it is OK to ask away! Those whom do not wish to answer the same
question over and over do not need to do so.
Most people get the "See Tony's books" or "check the archives" answers just because
as new people arrive here, they may not know such tools exist.
If God is your co-pilot...switch seats.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Arrow Fest III...sorta... |
As some of you may know, I usually take a chunk of time off around the holidays
to dedicate to a major build on my plane. This year, I do not have as much to
build, (a good thing) but I still have a lofty goal in mind. I would like to
wrap up work on my engine cooling inlets, (eye brows, eye lashes, eye sore...)
of my own design and also finish the engine cowling and exhaust heat muff. Maybe
even get some of these items painted. Today is my last day of work until the
21st. Even with some family commitments here and there, I hope to get a lot
done.
I would also like to take time to do a write up or two for the newsletter and maybe
another HINT video, but the above will be the priority.
All in due time...
If God is your co-pilot...switch seats.
Michael Perez
Pietenpol HINT Videos
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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Merry Christmas from the Big Piet Builders (Georgia)
Barry
NX973BP
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Considering the time of year, very much ON subject!=0A-=0AMerry Christmas
!-=0A=0AIf God is your co-pilot...switch seats.=0AMichael Perez=0APietenp
ol HINT Videos=0AKaretaker Aero=0Ahttp://www.karetakeraero.com/
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Christmas came just in time, with a strong hint to my daughter I think uncle Tony's
books will be under the tree, yipppeee
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TriScout:
Why would anyone need to approve anything that you do to your experimental aircraft
if it's already registered and airworthy? If you have it installed by the
time the annual condition inspection is conducted, it will be inspected like
any other part of the aircraft, but you don't need approval or sign-off on it.
I would make a logbook entry in the airframe log to document the change. The
caveat is that you must decide whether adding the trim tab constitutes a "major
change" or not. Here's the definition from 14 CFR 21.93:
A minor change is one that has no appreciable effect on the weight, balance, structural
strength, reliability, operational characteristics, or other characteristics
affecting the airworthiness of the product. All other changes are major
changes.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Well, from the West Coast builders to you Piet folks on the East Coast, best wishes
for a joyful and blessed Christmas! And just out of curiosity, do you east
coast and southern Pieters consider Sun 'n' Fun as your unofficial Piet gathering?
I guess it's 'only' 840 miles from Atlanta to Brodhead, but that's more
of a stretch than the 454 miles from Atlanta to Lakeland so I figured it was
the best opportunity for Piets to gather down there, or possibly the 460 miles
to the Lee Bottom Flying Field in Hanover, IN.
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Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Arrow Fest III...sorta... |
Mike;
Good for you, planning to maximize your available build time over the holidays.
One thing I might mention about fabricating your cowl is that you should of
course try removing and reinstalling the cowling with everything installed on
the engine, before the cowling is painted. My setup is with the usual top and
bottom halves of the cowling joined by piano hinges to make either half removable
without disturbing the other half by pulling the hinge pins, and that's a
good thing. The removable top half makes servicing the top plugs, mags, harnesses,
oil screen, and other stuff pretty easy, and it comes off readily. It's
the bottom half that causes the problems, and it needs to come off when you
have to get to the carb, air box, oil sump, lower plugs, or anything else "down
under".
My bottom half is in three pieces (four, actually)... the bottom and two sides,
also joined with piano hinges but without removable pins, fixed to half of the
nose piece. Picture here:
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CEA_Piet04.jpg
The fact that the lower cowling is in several pieces with hinges allows it to be
flexed and maneuvered, but the problem is the exhaust stacks, which contact
the cowling pieces as I maneuver it to clear the air filter and carb heat box,
which scratches the paint on the lower cowling. There's not really much to be
done about it other than having a helper around when you pull the cowlings (rarely
the case), or wrapping the stacks with soft rags or towels before pulling
the cowling, or just not caring too much if you get minor paint scratches (which
is my case with Scout, since I just shoot some Rustoleum Ford Implement
Blue on things from time to time). You'll see from the picture that the stacks
are usually fabricated tucked in to the sides of the cowling, which helps with
streamlining but means you have to sneak past them with the cowling. By all
means do some test-fitting with everything in place before you paint, or you
may end up crying when you get some scratches. Scout has long since forgiven
me for scratches, and now doesn't even grumble unless I break or bend something
;o)
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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this is a big change... having another set of eyes is always a plus. even if not
required... synergy is always a good plan. hopefully you will get good input
from this group. my thought is that adding a moving flight control is possibly
a major change. there are folks that do know and it aint me :D so I guess im
wasting your time [Embarassed]
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