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1. 02:24 AM - Re: St. Croix Plans? (aviken)
2. 03:34 AM - Re: St. Croix Plans? (John Francis)
3. 05:43 PM - Access panels (Steven Dortch)
4. 06:36 PM - Re: Access panels (Jack Phillips)
5. 08:41 PM - West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 09:09 PM - Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (Gary Boothe)
7. 09:18 PM - Re: St. Croix Plans? (taildrags)
8. 09:40 PM - Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (taildrags)
9. 09:42 PM - Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (Michael Groah)
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| Subject: | Re: St. Croix Plans? |
I bought the complete Pietenpol plans, But in the book that comes with it is a
copy of the plans that were shown in the Flyer and Glider manual. While siting
in the comfort of my recliner , and looking at that book, I placed an order
for some plywood. It seems that those plans show 3/32 for the sides,and 7/32
for the bottom. That is 1/32 less thickness than the later improved version.
I did buy 1 sheet of 1/8 for the rest of the gussets, and have since ordered
more 1/8 needed for seat backs and other cockpit parts . Now I intend to
use the 3/32 for the sides and have already used the 7/32 for the bottom. I think
it will be plenty good enough, My 2 cents worth.
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| Subject: | Re: St. Croix Plans? |
I would guess the Bernard Pietenpol did not use A/C grade plywood in his aircraft
especially back in the day. With that thought, would 3/32 aircraft grade plywood
be an acceptable substitute for 1/8 inch?
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John Francis
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What is the best way to attach aluminum sheets as cover panels for the wing
fuel tank and a large belly access hole? In other words how do attach it to
the wood frame? especially where there is currently fabric. I would like to
be able to open it for the condition inspection and such but not for each
flight. So a piano hinge is not required. I do like Dzuz type fasteners
rather than screws.
Yes I have looked all through Uncle Tony's books and I have surfed the net.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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I attached my belly panel with sheet metal screws into walnut blocks glued
to the stringers:
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven
Dortch
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:43 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Access panels
What is the best way to attach aluminum sheets as cover panels for the wing
fuel tank and a large belly access hole? In other words how do attach it to
the wood frame? especially where there is currently fabric. I would like to
be able to open it for the condition inspection and such but not for each
flight. So a piano hinge is not required. I do like Dzuz type fasteners
rather than screws.
Yes I have looked all through Uncle Tony's books and I have surfed the net.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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| Subject: | West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 |
Hello=2C low 'n' slow fliers-
I started doing a little bit of planning for Frazier Lake in June and I hav
e a question for the "locals". I'll be generally following Interstate 5 do
wn from Oregon but avoiding any of the bad airspace. Coming down past Stoc
kton and Tracy=2C I will need to cut west to get to 1C9 and it looks like I
should cut over at Los Banos=2C roughly following Hwy. 152 around San Luis
Reservoir. The terrain looks pretty rugged all along there=2C so I though
t I'd inquire to see if there is a better way to get from the central valle
y over to Frazier Lake when coming south?
It looks like I have about 20 more weekends to get myself and the airplane
prepared for the trip.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford=2C OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 |
Oscar,
You could follow I680 by Livermore, and hug the south hills flying West,
turn South and hug the east hills of San Jose.but I chose to go South to Los
Banos (where my trip ended!). Mike Groah had no issues following 152. If you
can make the summit at Weed, it'll all be downhill.
Los Banos is a good fuel stop for me.maybe we could meet there?
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014
Hello, low 'n' slow fliers-
I started doing a little bit of planning for Frazier Lake in June and I have
a question for the "locals". I'll be generally following Interstate 5 down
from Oregon but avoiding any of the bad airspace. Coming down past Stockton
and Tracy, I will need to cut west to get to 1C9 and it looks like I should
cut over at Los Banos, roughly following Hwy. 152 around San Luis Reservoir.
The terrain looks pretty rugged all along there, so I thought I'd inquire to
see if there is a better way to get from the central valley over to Frazier
Lake when coming south?
It looks like I have about 20 more weekends to get myself and the airplane
prepared for the trip.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: St. Croix Plans? |
John;
I think it's impossible to make a blanket statement about substituting 3/32" ply
for 1/8" since there are so many different places where it might be used on
the airplane. Obviously, where it's used for its thickness, you couldn't substitute
or you'd end up with a gap. In other locations, you'll just have to judge
the suitability yourself. Most builders tend to go just a bit heavier rather
than lighter, but there are places on the Air Camper that are plenty stout
and could stand some minor downsizing. I don't think you'll hear anybody advising
you to go ahead and change all 1/8" plywood to 3/32"... it's just too broad
a statement.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 |
Gary;
I'm just beginning to plan my trip down, so I don't know where my fuel stops might
be. I know for sure that I want to stop in Montague or Weed to catch my breath
and look over the airplane after I cross the Siskiyou Summit, but after
that it's all going to depend on the wind and weather. The chart planners tell
me that it's something like 440 SM or roughly 7 flight hours from my home field.
However, that's very misleading when flying a Piet, and it translates to
at least 3 fuel stops and a very full day of travel if winds don't kick up too
badly for me to proceed after lunch. I would be thrilled to make it all the
way to 1C9 in one day, but I'm not holding my breath on that possibility. The
interesting thing is that in June in this area, there are almost 15 hours of
daylight between dawn and dusk! That being the case, it should be entirely possible
for me to make it all in one day.
So sure, I'll fly on your wing from Los Banos or anyplace else we might connect.
Proud and happy to fly with such a nice airplane as yours, but after having
been soundly out-run by "Axel" Purtee in his Corvair Piet, I have absolutely
no hope of keeping up with you.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 |
Oscar,
I come up from the south (I live near Pat Panzera) and as Gary said I chose t
o cross as you described. It seems like the shortest and most safe way acro
ss for me. Scott Liefeld and I also came across there on our way back last y
ear. It doesn't take too long to get across but I do feel some relief once I
'm past the hills and into the valley on the other side.
I'm looking forward to meeting you.
Mike Groah
414MV
Tulare CA
> On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:09 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Oscar,
>
> You could follow I680 by Livermore, and hug the south hills flying West, t
urn South and hug the east hills of San Josebut I chose to go South
to Los Banos (where my trip ended!). Mike Groah had no issues following 152
. If you can make the summit at Weed, it=99ll all be downhill
>
> Los Banos is a good fuel stop for memaybe we could meet there?
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 PM
> To: Pietenpol List
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014
>
> Hello, low 'n' slow fliers-
>
> I started doing a little bit of planning for Frazier Lake in June and I ha
ve a question for the "locals". I'll be generally following Interstate 5 do
wn from Oregon but avoiding any of the bad airspace. Coming down past Stock
ton and Tracy, I will need to cut west to get to 1C9 and it looks like I sho
uld cut over at Los Banos, roughly following Hwy. 152 around San Luis Reserv
oir. The terrain looks pretty rugged all along there, so I thought I'd inqu
ire to see if there is a better way to get from the central valley over to Fra
zier Lake when coming south?
>
> It looks like I have about 20 more weekends to get myself and the airplane
prepared for the trip.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
>
>
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