Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 01/19/14


Total Messages Posted: 25



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     1. 05:06 AM - Re: Scott Liefelds Piet and B1 Bomber (tools)
     2. 07:15 AM - Re: It could be worse... (GNflyer)
     3. 07:22 AM - Re: Re: It could be worse... (Marcus Zechini)
     4. 07:22 AM - Re: Scott Liefelds Piet and B1 Bomber (jarheadpilot82)
     5. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: It could be worse... (Gary Boothe)
     6. 08:52 AM - more questions (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
     7. 09:35 AM - Re: more questions (Gary Boothe)
     8. 09:46 AM - Re: It could be worse... (taildrags)
     9. 10:04 AM - Re: Re: It could be worse... (Gary Boothe)
    10. 10:49 AM - Re: It could be worse... (taildrags)
    11. 11:59 AM - Re: more questions (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
    12. 12:42 PM - Re: It could be worse... (Ray Krause)
    13. 12:46 PM - Re: It could be worse... (Ray Krause)
    14. 12:49 PM - Re: It could be worse... (Ray Krause)
    15. 01:11 PM - Re: more questions (Gary Boothe)
    16. 01:13 PM - Re: It could be worse... (Gary Boothe)
    17. 01:28 PM - Sky Scout pics (Gary Boothe)
    18. 04:23 PM - Re: more questions (Keith)
    19. 04:29 PM - texas piet. flyin (Braniff1966)
    20. 05:22 PM - Cont. engine downthrust (taildrags)
    21. 05:47 PM - Re: texas piet. flyin (Steven Dortch)
    22. 06:56 PM - Re: texas piet. flyin (Braniff1966)
    23. 07:04 PM - Re: texas piet. flyin (Braniff1966)
    24. 07:22 PM - Re: Sky Scout pics (Michael Groah)
    25. 08:22 PM - Re: Sky Scout pics (Ray Krause)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:06:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Scott Liefelds Piet and B1 Bomber
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    Really? Shows right up on my puter... hmmm... Lets try this! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417171#417171 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/a4_and_hatz_147.jpg


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    Time: 07:15:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: It could be worse...
    From: "GNflyer" <rayeh48@yahoo.com>
    that front pit cover must be a big help- how is it attached? thanks for the video Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417176#417176


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    Time: 07:22:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: It could be worse...
    From: Marcus Zechini <marcus.zechini@gmail.com>
    I want to know, too. I have one, attached with snaps, but when I fly with it, it rips out a couple. I can see there may be something rigid underneath in video. I was thinking about making an aluminum cover... On Jan 19, 2014 9:17 AM, "GNflyer" <rayeh48@yahoo.com> wrote: > > that front pit cover must be a big help- how is it attached? thanks for > the video > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417176#417176 > >


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    Time: 07:22:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Scott Liefelds Piet and B1 Bomber
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    Awesome picture! I am sure your dad loved it. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417177#417177


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    Time: 08:07:03 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: It could be worse...
    The cover only looks rigid or with stiffeners because it is painted with latex paint (thanks to the suggestion by Shelley, which she did on Kevin Purtee's FBG!). It not only make the canvas match the plane, but also somewhat water repellent and much stiffer! I have four toggles snaps, 1 in each corner. At 65F yesterday, I probably didn't need the front cover, but, Yes, it keeps almost all the wind off of my legs!! Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Zechini Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 7:22 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: It could be worse... I want to know, too. I have one, attached with snaps, but when I fly with it, it rips out a couple. I can see there may be something rigid underneath in video. I was thinking about making an aluminum cover... On Jan 19, 2014 9:17 AM, "GNflyer" <rayeh48@yahoo.com> wrote: that front pit cover must be a big help- how is it attached? thanks for the video Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417176#417176 ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ==========


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    Time: 08:52:35 AM PST US
    From: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <mushface1@gmail.com>
    Subject: more questions
    I am sure everyone has run into this but haven=99t seen it discussed. The main beams of the horizontal stabilizer are different sizes, 1/2=9D for the leading edge, 3/4=9D for the main beam, and 5/8=9D for the back. It gives it an aerodynamic shape but the vertical stabilizer does not sit flat. Should I mount the horizontal stabilizer to the fuselage and then align the vertical stabilizer to the end of the fuselage? Also how much offset of the vertical stabilizer for a corvair engine and which direction? Dennis


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    Time: 09:35:32 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: more questions
    Dennis, Vert Stab rear beam is even with the rear beam of the horizontal stab, which is even with the tail post. Vert Stab mounts above the horizontal by 1/8=9D or so, so the shape of the horizontal stab is not an issue. For a Corvair, you will offset to the right (looking forward). Mine is offset about 3/8=9D, which is not quite enough. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Engelkenjohn Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 8:58 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: more questions I am sure everyone has run into this but haven=99t seen it discussed. The main beams of the horizontal stabilizer are different sizes, 1/2=9D for the leading edge, 3/4=9D for the main beam, and 5/8=9D for the back. It gives it an aerodynamic shape but the vertical stabilizer does not sit flat. Should I mount the horizontal stabilizer to the fuselage and then align the vertical stabilizer to the end of the fuselage? Also how much offset of the vertical stabilizer for a corvair engine and which direction? Dennis


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    Time: 09:46:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: It could be worse...
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Gary; where did you anchor the lug that the front seat shoulder harness mounts onto? Rear spar of the center section? Nice video; thanks for posting it. Lots of inspiration. We've had ice fog and temps rarely above freezing for weeks now, so the warm sun and clear skies in the video were nice to see. It is 34 in my hangar right now. One last comment: those fast, high-powered Corvair Piets sure need a lot of runway to land on! ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417195#417195


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    Time: 10:04:23 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: It could be worse...
    Oscar, The front shoulder harness attaches to a 1/4" aluminum bracket (which also has the compass mounted to it), bolted up thru the center section and to a piece of 1 1/2" 6061 angle, which is also attached to the rear spar. Don't think I have any pics of that. As for the landing distance of Corvair powered Piets, I can only say this: I fly off of a 6,000' runway. In the beginning, I aimed for the first set of hash marks all the time....until one day a drug my tail across the threshold marker lights...had pieces of red lenses buried in the bottom fabric!! When I told my instructor about it, he laughed and reminded me that I could always land long, aiming for a different spot. Conclusion: Some Pietenpol pilots think as slowly as their planes. Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of taildrags Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:46 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It could be worse... --> <taildrags@hotmail.com> Gary; where did you anchor the lug that the front seat shoulder harness mounts onto? Rear spar of the center section? Nice video; thanks for posting it. Lots of inspiration. We've had ice fog and temps rarely above freezing for weeks now, so the warm sun and clear skies in the video were nice to see. It is 34 in my hangar right now. One last comment: those fast, high-powered Corvair Piets sure need a lot of runway to land on! ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417195#417195


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    Time: 10:49:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: It could be worse...
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Gary; my old home field of San Geronimo Airpark has a 3000' hard surface runway but also has a nice grass area suitable for landing. The grass area is about 500' usable for takeoff but less than that for landing (to the south) due to trees and a fence. I never had any trouble operating off of the grass area when it was dry. Great fun, and it's what the Air Camper was made for. Granted, an airplane rolls a lot less on grass, and one with fat 6.00x6s like mine rolls a lot less than one with motorcycle tires and spoked wheels like yours. My present home field has a main runway that is 8800'x150' and has "hosted" the Antonov AN-124 cargo plane... the second largest in the world. Probably overkill for a Piet, but on the other hand, it's easy to stay current because I can taxi out and make three takeoffs and full-stop landings in one straight shot down the runway and taxi back to the hangar, all without leaving the immediate runway environment ;o) I had one of those "runway threshold incidents" that you describe, back in my early training days when working on my landings over, and over, and over again. I "improved" my short field landing skills to the point that I could touch it down right at the very edge of the pavement with the power off, nose high, full flaps, stall horn screaming, time after time. While doing this I found the edge of the pavement with the tail skid of the Cessna 150 one time, and after hearing and feeling the result, I decided it was better not to do that anymore. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417200#417200


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    Time: 11:59:10 AM PST US
    From: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <mushface1@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: more questions
    Thanks Gary. Would then the chord of the horizontal stabilizer be parallel to the upper longerons or have down wash or up wash. I know there are terms for what I=99m trying to ask but for the life of me, can=99t remember them. Dennis From: Gary Boothe Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:34 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: more questions Dennis, Vert Stab rear beam is even with the rear beam of the horizontal stab, which is even with the tail post. Vert Stab mounts above the horizontal by 1/8=9D or so, so the shape of the horizontal stab is not an issue. For a Corvair, you will offset to the right (looking forward). Mine is offset about 3/8=9D, which is not quite enough. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Engelkenjohn Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 8:58 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: more questions I am sure everyone has run into this but haven=99t seen it discussed. The main beams of the horizontal stabilizer are different sizes, 1/2=9D for the leading edge, 3/4=9D for the main beam, and 5/8=9D for the back. It gives it an aerodynamic shape but the vertical stabilizer does not sit flat. Should I mount the horizontal stabilizer to the fuselage and then align the vertical stabilizer to the end of the fuselage? Also how much offset of the vertical stabilizer for a corvair engine and which direction? Dennis http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 12:42:26 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: It could be worse...
    Gary, Sorry I missed you, guess I was too intent on those Sky divers who had just jumped. One landed on the west side of the runway just before I departed. I was worried about them. Thanks again for the great afternoon. See you again....with all this good weather. Ray Sent from my iPad > On Jan 18, 2014, at 9:17 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Ray, > > Not sure what you meant to post here....but it sure was great seeing you and > that beautiful Waiex! I was halfway down the taxiway behind you as you > left...tried to get your attention... > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:58 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: It could be worse... > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:46:34 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: It could be worse...


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    Time: 12:49:50 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: It could be worse...
    Gary, I tried to send you some photos of my SkyScout, guess they were too large to go out. I deleted the photos and just sent text, just now. I thought you had flown and taken the photos later in the evening. Wish I could have flown along side of you! Ray Sent from my iPad > On Jan 18, 2014, at 9:17 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Ray, > > Not sure what you meant to post here....but it sure was great seeing you and > that beautiful Waiex! I was halfway down the taxiway behind you as you > left...tried to get your attention... > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:58 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: It could be worse... > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:11:18 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: more questions
    Dennis, Since I cannot recall, just looking at my pictures, it appears that I used =C2=BC=9D plywood on the forward beam, 3/16=9D plywood on the main beam, and 1/8=9D plywood on the rear beam. Must not be critical, because mine flies just fine. Maybe someone currently at that stage can chime in. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Engelkenjohn Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:05 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: more questions Thanks Gary. Would then the chord of the horizontal stabilizer be parallel to the upper longerons or have down wash or up wash. I know there are terms for what I=99m trying to ask but for the life of me, can=99t remember them. Dennis From: Gary Boothe <mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:34 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: more questions Dennis, Vert Stab rear beam is even with the rear beam of the horizontal stab, which is even with the tail post. Vert Stab mounts above the horizontal by 1/8=9D or so, so the shape of the horizontal stab is not an issue. For a Corvair, you will offset to the right (looking forward). Mine is offset about 3/8=9D, which is not quite enough. Gary Boothe NX308MB From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Engelkenjohn Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 8:58 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: more questions I am sure everyone has run into this but haven=99t seen it discussed. The main beams of the horizontal stabilizer are different sizes, 1/2=9D for the leading edge, 3/4=9D for the main beam, and 5/8=9D for the back. It gives it an aerodynamic shape but the vertical stabilizer does not sit flat. Should I mount the horizontal stabilizer to the fuselage and then align the vertical stabilizer to the end of the fuselage? Also how much offset of the vertical stabilizer for a corvair engine and which direction? Dennis http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 01:13:56 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: It could be worse...
    Sorry you missed the skydiver, too...better luck next time. Sometimes I have to circle for 20 or 30 minutes to get a good run at 'em... Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:42 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: It could be worse... --> <raykrause@frontiernet.net> Gary, Sorry I missed you, guess I was too intent on those Sky divers who had just jumped. One landed on the west side of the runway just before I departed. I was worried about them. Thanks again for the great afternoon. See you again....with all this good weather. Ray Sent from my iPad > On Jan 18, 2014, at 9:17 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > --> <gboothe5@comcast.net> > > Ray, > > Not sure what you meant to post here....but it sure was great seeing > you and that beautiful Waiex! I was halfway down the taxiway behind > you as you left...tried to get your attention... > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray > Krause > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:58 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: It could be worse... > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:28:18 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Sky Scout pics
    Try re-sizing them...you are a master craftsman and I'm sure there are a bunch of us who like to see your work! Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: It could be worse... --> <raykrause@frontiernet.net> Gary, I tried to send you some photos of my SkyScout, guess they were too large to go out. I deleted the photos and just sent text, just now. I thought you had flown and taken the photos later in the evening. Wish I could have flown along side of you! Ray Sent from my iPad > On Jan 18, 2014, at 9:17 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > --> <gboothe5@comcast.net> > > Ray, > > Not sure what you meant to post here....but it sure was great seeing > you and that beautiful Waiex! I was halfway down the taxiway behind > you as you left...tried to get your attention... > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray > Krause > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:58 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: It could be worse... > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:23:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: more questions
    From: Keith <goffelectric@comcast.net>
    Dennis, I'm still building so if I'm wrong I hope someone will let me know but I tho ught it was intentional for the horizontal stabilizer to be nose high. I did not level mine with the longeron. Then I took a little out of my verticals s tabilizer over the 3/4" beam so the rudder has the same spacing from top to b ottom Thanks, Keith goff Sent from my iPad > On Jan 19, 2014, at 3:04 PM, "Dennis Engelkenjohn" <mushface1@gmail.com> w rote: > > Thanks Gary. Would then the chord of the horizontal stabilizer be parallel to the upper longerons or have down wash or up wash. I know there are terms for what I=99m trying to ask but for the life of me, can=99t re member them. > Dennis > > From: Gary Boothe > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:34 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: more questions > > Dennis, > > Vert Stab rear beam is even with the rear beam of the horizontal stab, whi ch is even with the tail post. > > Vert Stab mounts above the horizontal by 1/8=9D or so, so the shape o f the horizontal stab is not an issue. > > For a Corvair, you will offset to the right (looking forward). Mine is off set about 3/8=9D, which is not quite enough. > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Engelkenjohn > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 8:58 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: more questions > > I am sure everyone has run into this but haven=99t seen it discussed . The main beams of the horizontal stabilizer are different sizes, 1/2 =9D for the leading edge, 3/4=9D for the main beam, and 5/8=9D f or the back. It gives it an aerodynamic shape but the vertical stabilizer do es not sit flat. Should I mount the horizontal stabilizer to the fuselage an d then align the vertical stabilizer to the end of the fuselage? > Also how much offset of the vertical stabilizer for a corvair engine and which direction? > Dennis > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 04:29:36 PM PST US
    Subject: texas piet. flyin
    From: "Braniff1966" <jnl96@yahoo.com>
    would anyone be interested in having a piet flyin at Nassau airpark Granbury, texas this spring????? jimhyde Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417219#417219


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    Time: 05:22:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Cont. engine downthrust
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    I had my airplane up and level (removed the tailwheel for service) and the engine cowling is off, so I took the opportunity to put the level on the engine to see what the down thrust is. Continental A75 (but the 65 that I had on it previously was the same)- 3.5 degrees down. If I had a laser, I could have shot the side thrust offset too, but I don't. I had to use some washers on the engine mount bolts to get the down thrust where it is part of it was in the mount, but the rest was done with washers. It looks like a lot when you look at the engine cocked that way relative to the fuselage, but that's what it takes. With the vertical stabilizer offset and the engine thrust line moved over and down, my airplane flies nearly hands-off in smooth air. Playing with the offset is worth the exercise if you want your airplane to fly straight and level in smooth air in cruise without much need to hold rudder or stick. On warm and bumpy summer afternoons though, all bets are off. And when trying to re-fold a sectional or find a piece of information on the sectional in your lap, fageddaboudit. The minute you look down, the airplane will veer, guaranteed. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417223#417223


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    Time: 05:47:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: texas piet. flyin
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    If My Plane is ready I would love to. BUt I would not bet on it. Steve D Piet in restoration. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Braniff1966 <jnl96@yahoo.com> wrote: > > would anyone be interested in having a piet flyin at Nassau airpark > Granbury, texas this spring????? > > jimhyde > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417219#417219 > >


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    Time: 06:56:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: texas piet. flyin
    From: "Braniff1966" <jnl96@yahoo.com>
    if it looks like there may be an interest ill start a list and start to getting inputs frim the interested parties.. Granbury is a nice place to visit live theater, good food wildlife parks etc. jim ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== [b][/quote] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417226#417226


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    Time: 07:04:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: texas piet. flyin
    From: "Braniff1966" <jnl96@yahoo.com>
    if it looks like there may be an interest ill start a list and start to getting inputs frim the interested parties.. Granbury is a nice place to visit live theater, good food wildlife parks etc. jim ========== st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== [b][/quote] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417228#417228


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    Time: 07:22:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sky Scout pics
    From: Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
    I want to see your progress Ray!!! Mike Groah NX414MV Sent from my iPad > On Jan 19, 2014, at 1:27 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Try re-sizing them...you are a master craftsman and I'm sure there are a > bunch of us who like to see your work! > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:49 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: It could be worse... > > --> <raykrause@frontiernet.net> > > Gary, > > I tried to send you some photos of my SkyScout, guess they were too large to > go out. I deleted the photos and just sent text, just now. I thought you had > flown and taken the photos later in the evening. Wish I could have flown > along side of you! > > Ray > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jan 18, 2014, at 9:17 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> --> <gboothe5@comcast.net> >> >> Ray, >> >> Not sure what you meant to post here....but it sure was great seeing >> you and that beautiful Waiex! I was halfway down the taxiway behind >> you as you left...tried to get your attention... >> >> Gary Boothe >> NX308MB >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray >> Krause >> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:58 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: It could be worse... > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:22:16 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Sky Scout pics
    I will try resizing later today. Would like to get a few more of the cowling work. Thanks, Ray Sent from my iPad > On Jan 19, 2014, at 1:27 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Try re-sizing them...you are a master craftsman and I'm sure there are a > bunch of us who like to see your work! > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:49 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: It could be worse... > > --> <raykrause@frontiernet.net> > > Gary, > > I tried to send you some photos of my SkyScout, guess they were too large to > go out. I deleted the photos and just sent text, just now. I thought you had > flown and taken the photos later in the evening. Wish I could have flown > along side of you! > > Ray > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jan 18, 2014, at 9:17 PM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> --> <gboothe5@comcast.net> >> >> Ray, >> >> Not sure what you meant to post here....but it sure was great seeing >> you and that beautiful Waiex! I was halfway down the taxiway behind >> you as you left...tried to get your attention... >> >> Gary Boothe >> NX308MB >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray >> Krause >> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:58 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: It could be worse... > > > > > > > > >




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