---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/22/14: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:35 AM - Re: Matco tailwheel (Gary Boothe) 2. 06:06 AM - Re: Matco tailwheel (Hans van der Voort) 3. 07:12 AM - Too Cold! (John Francis) 4. 07:21 AM - Re: Too Cold! (Gary Boothe) 5. 07:25 AM - Re: Matco tailwheel (pineymb) 6. 07:44 AM - Trim tab set-up () 7. 08:08 AM - Re: It could be worse... (regchief) 8. 09:20 AM - Re: Too Cold! (AircamperN11MS) 9. 09:56 AM - Center section Fitting (Charles Burkholder) 10. 10:23 AM - Re: Trim tab set-up (pineymb) 11. 10:33 AM - Re: Center section Fitting (Bill Church) 12. 02:12 PM - Re: New builder (nightmare) 13. 05:44 PM - Re: Too Cold! (taildrags) 14. 05:52 PM - Re: Center section Fitting (Chris) 15. 06:07 PM - Re: Too Cold! (Chris) 16. 06:07 PM - Re: Center section Fitting (Rick) 17. 06:24 PM - Re: Too Cold! (Jim Boyer) 18. 06:47 PM - Re: Too Cold! (glenschweizer@yahoo.com) 19. 07:00 PM - Re: Too Cold! (John Francis) 20. 07:34 PM - Re: Center section Fitting (Ken Bickers) 21. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: Too Cold! (Ken Bickers) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:26 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Matco tailwheel Oscar, My new tail wheel is that exact one. I love it! Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of taildrags Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:41 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Matco tailwheel --> Is anybody out there currently flying with a Matco solid 6" tailwheel (their model T6)? My Scott 2000 is in need of overhaul but parts are difficult to find and are NOT inexpensive. I have a used Matco T6 in good condition that I can put on it but I thought I'd ask if anyone has pros or cons on it before I do so. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417392#417392 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:55 AM PST US From: Hans van der Voort Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Matco tailwheel Oscar,=0A=0AI have one of those on the Piet, I like it.=0A=0ANo problems to report =0A=0AHans=0A=0ANX15KV=0AWaller, TX=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Wednesday, Januar y 22, 2014 6:48 AM, Gary Boothe wrote:=0A =0A--> Pi etenpol-List message posted by: "Gary Boothe" =0A=0AO scar,=0A=0AMy new tail wheel is that exact one. I love it!=0A=0AGary Boothe =0ANX308MB=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: owner-pietenpol-list-ser ver@matronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On B ehalf Of taildrags=0ASent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:41 PM=0ATo: pietenpo l-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Matco tailwheel=0A=0A--> Pi etenpol-List message posted by: "taildrags" =0A--> =0A=0AIs anybody out there currently flying with a Matco solid 6" tailwheel (their=0Amodel T6)?- My Scott 2000 is in need of overhaul but parts are difficult to=0Afind and are NOT inexpensive.- I have a used Matco T6 in g ood condition that=0AI can put on it but I thought I'd ask if anyone has pr os or cons on it=0Abefore I do so.=0A=0A--------=0AOscar Zuniga=0AMedford, OR=0AAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"=0AA75 power=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead thi s topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Adm ===== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:38 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Too Cold! From: "John Francis" I have an area in my barn that has a wood stove in it. I hang tarps from the balcony above it to partition in off in the winter. With the stove I can bring the shop up to 60 or even 70 when I need to on a reasonable winter day. When gluing, I will put my T-88 bottles in some warm water so the glue will flow. It didn't work this morning......-10 on the thermometer. -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417410#417410 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0041_510.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0042_141.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Too Cold! From: Gary Boothe Winter? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2014, at 7:11 AM, "John Francis" wrote: > > > I have an area in my barn that has a wood stove in it. I hang tarps from the balcony above it to partition in off in the winter. With the stove I can bring the shop up to 60 or even 70 when I need to on a reasonable winter day. > > When gluing, I will put my T-88 bottles in some warm water so the glue will flow. It didn't work this morning......-10 on the thermometer. > > -------- > John Francis > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417410#417410 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0041_510.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0042_141.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel From: "pineymb" Removed my worn out Maule tail wheel and installed the Matco with the 6" solid wheel a few years ago and it has excellent. -------- Adrian M Winnipeg, MB Canada Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417413#417413 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_674.jpg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:33 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Trim tab set-up From: Adrian, I noticed your trim tab on the elevator in your picture of your tail wheel....could you post a few more pictures of it and a brief explanation on how you have it set up? Thanks, Brian SLC-UT -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pineymb Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 8:25 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel Removed my worn out Maule tail wheel and installed the Matco with the 6" solid wheel a few years ago and it has excellent. -------- Adrian M Winnipeg, MB Canada Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417413#417413 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_674.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:34 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It could be worse... From: "regchief" Back when I was crewing tankers in the Air Force, I observed the results of a too short approach one time. My plane had a drogue installed on the boom, 8 feet of hose and a basket for those Navy planes. After landing the crew ran back and looked at 8 feet of mangled hose and no basket. The supervisor of flying drove up with a mangled basket in the back of his pickup and said " Look what we found in the approach lights, guys." Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417417#417417 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:20:59 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Too Cold! From: "AircamperN11MS" John, I put my T88 in the microwave to thaw it. Works good. If you don't have electricity in your hangar I guess you could put it under your armpit for awhile. :) Gary, Winter, Just think December at my house. Remember??? Nough said bout that. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417422#417422 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:53 AM PST US From: "Charles Burkholder" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section Fitting Hi guys, I'm running into a problem with my center section steel fittings. The plans show the control cable pulley housing bolt to go right where the compression strut is on the other side. So I decided to lengthen the pulley housing and swing it over onto the spar fitting and bolt it along with the AN4 bolt there. Well that makes the pulley bolt hit the spar fitting....Know what I mean? What did everybody do there? Thanks Charles Burkholder ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:23:40 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Trim tab set-up From: "pineymb" Brian As best as I recall, the tab is approx. 6"x4" riveted to piano hinge and screwed to elavator with stainless screws controlled by a simple push/pull cable. Broke off the plastic knob and threaded the swagged end for 10/32. Used a turnbuckle for adjustment with an aluminum knob press fitted over the barrel. Precise adjustment with no drift. Hope this helps -------- Adrian M Winnipeg, MB Canada Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417427#417427 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_200.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_564.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:33:13 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Center section Fitting From: "Bill Church" Hi Charles, Good to hear you're progressing. I recall a discussion about this from a few years ago. One solution is to use a Tee-nut at the location where the compression strut lands. See the photo of Jim Markle's installation here: http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Jim%20Markle/images/CntrSct2003_0405_202952AA.JPG I've also attached a copy of the photo with the area in question circled. You can get tee-nuts at Home Depot. Hope that helps. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417428#417428 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tee_204.jpg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:12:51 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New builder From: "nightmare" Looks great Don . Love the stance. Must feel great getting it to stand on its own. Right behind you too (well maybe a year and a half). -------- Paul Donahue Started 8-3-12 do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417439#417439 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:44:32 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Too Cold! From: "taildrags" John; your T88 bottles look sort of like mine, but I think I have you beat all of the label writing is gone from mine. I guess I need to get some new stuff, but I hate to throw out perfectly good epoxy. It seems to bond as good as it always did. Also, I can attest to the microwave trick being very effective in getting it to flow. However, take care not to over-beep the clear stuff it gets runny very easily and that makes it very difficult to proportion if you do it by eye, like I do. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417444#417444 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:55 PM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Center section Fitting I cut a notch in the compression fitting for the bolt head. Chris T. Sacramento, Ca Westcoastpiet.com From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Burkholder Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section Fitting Hi guys, I'm running into a problem with my center section steel fittings. The plans show the control cable pulley housing bolt to go right where the compression strut is on the other side. So I decided to lengthen the pulley housing and swing it over onto the spar fitting and bolt it along with the AN4 bolt there. Well that makes the pulley bolt hit the spar fitting....Know what I mean? What did everybody do there? Thanks Charles Burkholder ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:07:01 PM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Too Cold! I hear ya. It was so cold here in California that I had to wear a long sleeve t-shirt today. Burrrrrr that's just to cold. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 7:11 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Too Cold! --> I have an area in my barn that has a wood stove in it. I hang tarps from the balcony above it to partition in off in the winter. With the stove I can bring the shop up to 60 or even 70 when I need to on a reasonable winter day. When gluing, I will put my T-88 bottles in some warm water so the glue will flow. It didn't work this morning......-10 on the thermometer. -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417410#417410 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0041_510.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0042_141.jpg ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:07:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Center section Fitting From: Rick That's what I did also. I asked the same question when I was doing my center section about 5 years ago and had a number of replies from builders who als o said they just notched the compression strut. Sent from my iPad Rick Schreiber In snowy, subzero, Valparaiso Indiana On Jan 22, 2014, at 7:52 PM, "Chris" wrote: > I cut a notch in the compression fitting for the bolt head. > > > Chris T. > Sacramento, Ca > Westcoastpiet.com > > > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Burkholder > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:57 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section Fitting > > Hi guys, I'm running into a problem with my center section steel fittings. The plans show the control cable pulley housing bolt to go right where the c ompression strut is on the other side. So I decided to lengthen the pulley h ousing and swing it over onto the spar fitting and bolt it along with the AN 4 bolt there. Well that makes the pulley bolt hit the spar fitting....Know w hat I mean? What did everybody do there? > Thanks > Charles Burkholder > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:20 PM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Too Cold! Oh Chris you're just too thin; that's why you are cold. Eat a good meal of potato's meat and beans!!! Bulk you right up. Cheers, Jim B. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:41 PM PST US From: glenschweizer@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Too Cold! I understand. I grew up in SanJose. If it got below 60, we felt quite abused indeed Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2014, at 6:06 PM, "Chris" wrote: > > > I hear ya. It was so cold here in California that I had to wear a long > sleeve t-shirt today. Burrrrrr that's just to cold. > > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Francis > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 7:11 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Too Cold! > > --> > > I have an area in my barn that has a wood stove in it. I hang tarps from > the balcony above it to partition in off in the winter. With the stove I > can bring the shop up to 60 or even 70 when I need to on a reasonable winter > day. > > When gluing, I will put my T-88 bottles in some warm water so the glue will > flow. It didn't work this morning......-10 on the thermometer. > > -------- > John Francis > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417410#417410 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0041_510.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0042_141.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:00:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Too Cold! From: "John Francis" I like the microwave idea and will try it! Oscar, these bottles only have a small amount in them and I am looking forward to chucking them in the trash....they are a mess. -------- John Francis Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417452#417452 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Center section Fitting From: Ken Bickers I did the same, but put the nut in the notch. If you try to put the bolt head there, you'll have to install the bolt before everything gets glued together. Ken On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Rick wrote: > That's what I did also. I asked the same question when I was doing my > center section about 5 years ago and had a number of replies from builders > who also said they just notched the compression strut. > > Sent from my iPad > > Rick Schreiber > In snowy, subzero, Valparaiso Indiana > > On Jan 22, 2014, at 7:52 PM, "Chris" wrote: > > I cut a notch in the compression fitting for the bolt head. > > > Chris T. > > Sacramento, Ca > > Westcoastpiet.com > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [ > mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] > *On Behalf Of *Charles Burkholder > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:57 AM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Center section Fitting > > > Hi guys, I'm running into a problem with my center section steel fittings. > The plans show the control cable pulley housing bolt to go right where the > compression strut is on the other side. So I decided to lengthen the pulley > housing and swing it over onto the spar fitting and bolt it along with the > AN4 bolt there. Well that makes the pulley bolt hit the spar > fitting....Know what I mean? What did everybody do there? > Thanks > > Charles Burkholder > > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List * > > *http://forums.matronics.com * > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution * > > > * > > ================================== > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ================================== > cs.com > ================================== > matronics.com/contribution > ================================== > > * > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Too Cold! From: Ken Bickers Another way to get the glue liquid enough to mix is to put the bottles in a sauce pan about half full of water. Then bring the water to a boil on a propane mushroom-style heater. It works great on the epoxy (you won't overheat the clear stuff) and it will help warm up your hangar or work area. You might find yourself heating epoxy whenever the weather turns cold. Just 'cause. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:59 PM, John Francis wrote: > > I like the microwave idea and will try it! Oscar, these bottles only have > a small amount in them and I am looking forward to chucking them in the > trash....they are a mess. > > -------- > John Francis > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417452#417452 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.