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1. 01:18 AM - Re: Center section Fitting (Chris)
2. 01:20 AM - Re: Too Cold! (Chris)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: Center section Fitting (bdewenter)
4. 06:19 AM - Re: Matco tailwheel (bdewenter)
5. 06:29 AM - Re: Re: Matco tailwheel (Gary Boothe)
6. 06:55 AM - Re: Re: Matco tailwheel (Scott Knowlton)
7. 06:59 AM - Re: Re: Matco tailwheel (Jack Phillips)
8. 07:06 AM - Re: Re: Matco tailwheel (Gary Boothe)
9. 08:42 AM - leaf springs (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
10. 08:52 AM - tailwheel options-- spring or A-frame (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
11. 09:09 AM - Re: Matco tailwheel (tools)
12. 10:27 AM - Re: Too Cold! (Jim Boyer)
13. 10:43 AM - Re: tailwheel options-- spring or A-frame (bdewenter)
14. 10:48 AM - Re: tailwheel options-- spring or A-frame (bdewenter)
15. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: Center section Fitting (Ken Bickers)
16. 01:31 PM - Re: Re: Matco tailwheel (Michael Groah)
17. 09:16 PM - Re: Matco tailwheel (taildrags)
18. 09:18 PM - Re: Re: Matco tailwheel (Chris)
19. 09:31 PM - Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 (taildrags)
20. 09:34 PM - Re: Re: Matco tailwheel (glenschweizer@yahoo.com)
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Subject: | Center section Fitting |
Yep, I meant to say nut.
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Bickers
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Center section Fitting
I did the same, but put the nut in the notch. If you try to put the bolt
head there, you'll have to install the bolt before everything gets glued
together. Ken
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Rick <lmforge@earthlink.net
<mailto:lmforge@earthlink.net> > wrote:
That's what I did also. I asked the same question when I was doing my center
section about 5 years ago and had a number of replies from builders who also
said they just notched the compression strut.
Sent from my iPad
Rick Schreiber
In snowy, subzero, Valparaiso Indiana
On Jan 22, 2014, at 7:52 PM, "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net
<mailto:catdesigns@att.net> > wrote:
I cut a notch in the compression fitting for the bolt head.
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com <http://Westcoastpiet.com>
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Burkholder
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:57 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Center section Fitting
Hi guys, I'm running into a problem with my center section steel fittings.
The plans show the control cable pulley housing bolt to go right where the
compression strut is on the other side. So I decided to lengthen the pulley
housing and swing it over onto the spar fitting and bolt it along with the
AN4 bolt there. Well that makes the pulley bolt hit the spar fitting....Know
what I mean? What did everybody do there?
Thanks
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Jim
I won=99t have a snarling Corvair on the nose of my plane like
you and Gary. I have to watch my weight so I can keep a positive climb
rate.
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
Westcoastpiet.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Too Cold!
Oh Chris you're just too thin; that's why you are cold. Eat a good meal
of potato's meat and beans!!! Bulk you right up.
Cheers, Jim B.
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Subject: | Re: Center section Fitting |
Why not move the compression strut a few inches - on the outboard side of the rib...there
is plenty of room.
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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Subject: | Re: Matco tailwheel |
After a long drawn out battle of my whits, I decided to install the Matco 6" solid
tail-wheel with the #4 homebuilders special leaf spring from ACS. I figured
I was going to eventually rip my tail wheel off on some bad landing 400 miles
from home. It would be easier to call ACS and get new parts overnight than
try to find a way to repair he Bernard A-Frame style.
I'm glad Gary and others have posted positive comments about the Matco unit. I
was afraid I might be making a bad decision trading weight for convenience -
until now that is. Love this forum!
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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Subject: | Re: Matco tailwheel |
Good decision, Bob! Note that Mike Groah has that tail wheel on his
plans-built BHP A-frame and it functions perfectly for him. I am continually
complimented on the style and functionality of that tail wheel by locals who
are seeing it for the first time.
All those decisions....they tend to keep us awake! Seems like the actual
building is the easy part!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bdewenter
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
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After a long drawn out battle of my whits, I decided to install the Matco 6"
solid tail-wheel with the #4 homebuilders special leaf spring from ACS. I
figured I was going to eventually rip my tail wheel off on some bad landing
400 miles from home. It would be easier to call ACS and get new parts
overnight than try to find a way to repair he Bernard A-Frame style.
I'm glad Gary and others have posted positive comments about the Matco unit.
I was afraid I might be making a bad decision trading weight for convenience
- until now that is. Love this forum!
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417463#417463
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Subject: | Re: Matco tailwheel |
For those of us who haven't chosen a tailwheel solution would you be able to give
us a weight comparison between your new Marco and spring and the former a-frame.
Scott Knowlton
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 23, 2014, at 7:31 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Good decision, Bob! Note that Mike Groah has that tail wheel on his
> plans-built BHP A-frame and it functions perfectly for him. I am continually
> complimented on the style and functionality of that tail wheel by locals who
> are seeing it for the first time.
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> All those decisions....they tend to keep us awake! Seems like the actual
> building is the easy part!
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> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bdewenter
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:19 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
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> After a long drawn out battle of my whits, I decided to install the Matco 6"
> solid tail-wheel with the #4 homebuilders special leaf spring from ACS. I
> figured I was going to eventually rip my tail wheel off on some bad landing
> 400 miles from home. It would be easier to call ACS and get new parts
> overnight than try to find a way to repair he Bernard A-Frame style.
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> I'm glad Gary and others have posted positive comments about the Matco unit.
> I was afraid I might be making a bad decision trading weight for convenience
> - until now that is. Love this forum!
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> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
> Dayton OH
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Subject: | Re: Matco tailwheel |
Only problem with that line of thought (replacing a leaf spring rather than
repairing a BHP A-frame) is tha the leaf spring won't break, but it will rip
out, cracking the longerons in the process (ask me how I know). The A-frame
repair would be much simpler. The A-frame is also lighter.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bdewenter
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
After a long drawn out battle of my whits, I decided to install the Matco 6"
solid tail-wheel with the #4 homebuilders special leaf spring from ACS. I
figured I was going to eventually rip my tail wheel off on some bad landing
400 miles from home. It would be easier to call ACS and get new parts
overnight than try to find a way to repair he Bernard A-Frame style.
I'm glad Gary and others have posted positive comments about the Matco unit.
I was afraid I might be making a bad decision trading weight for convenience
- until now that is. Love this forum!
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417463#417463
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Subject: | Re: Matco tailwheel |
Spring and Matco tail wheel are 4 1/2 lbs heavier than the A-frame and 4"
wheel that I previously had.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Knowlton
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
--> <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
For those of us who haven't chosen a tailwheel solution would you be able to
give us a weight comparison between your new Marco and spring and the former
a-frame.
Scott Knowlton
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 23, 2014, at 7:31 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
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> --> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
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> Good decision, Bob! Note that Mike Groah has that tail wheel on his
> plans-built BHP A-frame and it functions perfectly for him. I am
> continually complimented on the style and functionality of that tail
> wheel by locals who are seeing it for the first time.
>
> All those decisions....they tend to keep us awake! Seems like the
> actual building is the easy part!
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> bdewenter
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:19 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
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> After a long drawn out battle of my whits, I decided to install the Matco
6"
> solid tail-wheel with the #4 homebuilders special leaf spring from
> ACS. I figured I was going to eventually rip my tail wheel off on
> some bad landing
> 400 miles from home. It would be easier to call ACS and get new parts
> overnight than try to find a way to repair he Bernard A-Frame style.
>
> I'm glad Gary and others have posted positive comments about the Matco
unit.
> I was afraid I might be making a bad decision trading weight for
> convenience
> - until now that is. Love this forum!
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> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
> Dayton OH
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Bob-I haven't kept up with the responses to your question so forgive me if
this is repetitious info but
I've had many good years flying with this setup. I started out with a sing
le leaf but that was a lousy idea for
several reasons. 1, the single leaf was far too flexible and it would slap
and stretch the cables/springs against
the belly plus put strain on the rudder bar I'd imagine and 2, if that sing
le leaf breaks (which it did once) you're
in for a messy amount of damage.
I believe that three springs would be too stiff so I settled on two. I got
one leaf from ACS or Wicks then the other
leaf from a local friend from some old airplane. The curves of the springs
didn't match so I went to UNCLE Tony's
books and guess what? He shows you how to bend the springs!
Then I had to drill holes in those springs and guess what? I didn't have
a clue how to properly do that but once again,
Tony said to "drill leaf springs with a masonry bit and you will be surpris
ed how easily it will go." Sure enough.
Hope this helps!
Michael Cuy
Cleveland, OH
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Subject: | tailwheel options-- spring or A-frame |
Bob-- I neglected to mention that the A-frame trailing arm tailwheel assemb
ly is of course an excellent way to go as well but
you have to reinforce the lower longerons with some kind of plywood laminat
ions so that should you get into a ditch or severe groundloop
that the side loads won't rip the A-frame out of the longerons but of cours
e if the forces are great enough nothing will hold together back there.
I checked out the Matco tailwheel assemblies and they are far less in cost
than my 4" diameter Homebuilders tailwheel assembly from Wicks.
I wonder if you could replace that 6" wheel with a 4" wheel? Might not be
enough weight savings to worry about but the 4" diameter wheel I've been
running has been ideal all the way around.
This item below is from Wicks. They have three different versions of this w
ith various bore hole sizes.
Mike C
Ohio
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Subject: | Re: Matco tailwheel |
I've got the Matco and love it. Works flawlessly.
Mine got stuck in soft dirt off the runway during a ground loop and it took all
four longerons right off.. with the tail post. Inexpensive repair, but very
comprehensive. The tailwheel and all associated parts are none the worse for
wear.
Repairing external parts (as in welding or replacing the a-frame) would be easier.
I can't imagine breaking the Matco without damaging the longerons.
I've not flown a Bernard style tailwheel, can attest the Matco is very beginner
friendly. When you pin the tail down on pavement, you have perfect control in
very adverse conditions. That's the aspect of it I like so much.
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Hi Chris,
I understand; but you want to be heavy enough that you don't float out of t
he cockpit! I definitely don't have that problem. Being from South Dakota I
'm built low to the ground so the wind doesn't blow me away.
Cheers,
Jim
=C2-
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Subject: | Re: tailwheel options-- spring or A-frame |
Mike,
The 6" tail wheel itself "seems" light. its the large piece of billet aluminum
and the hardware for pivoting / steering that is "heavy" - it is a very stout
item.
My installation is nearly identical to yours Mike. I did beef up the area between
the two lower longerons and added plywood and aluminum "plates" covering the
entire "V"area - I followed your drawings (west coast piets) nearly identical.
And I agree one leaf spring seems to bouncy. I will be adding a seconds
#4 special from ACS (following Uncle Tony's drawings/instructions for multiple
springs).
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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Subject: | Re: tailwheel options-- spring or A-frame |
Forgot to mention - before i get "pounced" there is a 1x4" strip of 4130 0100"
on the inside to back up to bolts - would not consider ply wood and aluminum gussetts
to be string enough to keep the bolts from pulling through!
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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Subject: | Re: Center section Fitting |
Bob, I'm having trouble envisioning how this would work. Much of the
strength of the center section derives from the way the plywood panel glues
to the bottom of the compression struts and the spars, thereby forming a
rigid box. On mine, the floor of the box formed by the compression struts
sits above the bottom of the ribs by the exact thickness of the rib
capstrip. That way the fabric glues just to the capstrips and not to the
floor of the compression strut box. If you were to move the compression
members outside the ribs, would you modify the ribs to sit on top of the
plywood floor and glue the fabric directly to it? Or would you somehow fit
the plywood through the interstitial braces of the rib? Not trying to
argue, here, but I'm just not following your idea. Making the notch in the
compression strut was simple and didn't require rethinking anything else.
Cheers, Ken
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:06 AM, bdewenter <anonymouse@woh.rr.com> wrote:
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> Why not move the compression strut a few inches - on the outboard side of
> the rib...there is plenty of room.
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> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
> Dayton OH
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Subject: | Re: Matco tailwheel |
I like the A frame with the Matco tail wheel attached. It works well, it was easy
to build, and it doesn't stress the fuselage in ways it wasn't designed to
be. I had the pneumatic tire on it at first which was quieter but I switched
to a solid rubber after getting a couple of flats. I did make new longer steering
arms for it that give it the proper steering geometry. It steers well, stays
steerable when needed and unlocks into free swivel if I want to pivot on
one wheel. I wouldn't change a thing now.
Mike Groah
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 23, 2014, at 7:06 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Spring and Matco tail wheel are 4 1/2 lbs heavier than the A-frame and 4"
> wheel that I previously had.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott
> Knowlton
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:56 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
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> --> <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
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> For those of us who haven't chosen a tailwheel solution would you be able to
> give us a weight comparison between your new Marco and spring and the former
> a-frame.
>
> Scott Knowlton
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 7:31 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> --> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>>
>> Good decision, Bob! Note that Mike Groah has that tail wheel on his
>> plans-built BHP A-frame and it functions perfectly for him. I am
>> continually complimented on the style and functionality of that tail
>> wheel by locals who are seeing it for the first time.
>>
>> All those decisions....they tend to keep us awake! Seems like the
>> actual building is the easy part!
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>> NX308MB
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> bdewenter
>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:19 AM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
>>
>> --> <anonymouse@woh.rr.com>
>>
>> After a long drawn out battle of my whits, I decided to install the Matco
> 6"
>> solid tail-wheel with the #4 homebuilders special leaf spring from
>> ACS. I figured I was going to eventually rip my tail wheel off on
>> some bad landing
>> 400 miles from home. It would be easier to call ACS and get new parts
>> overnight than try to find a way to repair he Bernard A-Frame style.
>>
>> I'm glad Gary and others have posted positive comments about the Matco
> unit.
>> I was afraid I might be making a bad decision trading weight for
>> convenience
>> - until now that is. Love this forum!
>>
>> --------
>> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
>> Dayton OH
>>
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417463#417463
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Subject: | Re: Matco tailwheel |
Sounds like nothing but positive feedback on the Matco, so it will go on Scout's
tail this weekend and I'll retire the worn-out Scott. My tailwheel is sprung
with two flat leaf springs on the tail.
I put the Scott 2000 tailwheel on the cheesy bathroom scales that I have at the
hangar and it wavered between 4.5 and 5 lbs. I then put the Matco on it and
it wavered between 4.5 and 5 lbs, so it looks like a wash there.
I will bring both tailwheels to our soils lab where we have accurate balance scales
and will compare the weights to see if I need to adjust the aircraft's W&B
sheet, but it looks like nothing more than a logbook entry and off we go. I
like the way my Scott breaks over to free-castoring mode, so the Matco will have
to prove that it's the equal of the Scott in that respect. It says it breaks
over at 40 degrees of pivot.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: Matco tailwheel |
Several pictures of Mike's tail wheel are about 1/2 way down this page.
http://westcoastpiet.com/2013_west_coast_pietenpol_gathering.htm
Chris
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Groah
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
--> <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
I like the A frame with the Matco tail wheel attached. It works well, it
was easy to build, and it doesn't stress the fuselage in ways it wasn't
designed to be. I had the pneumatic tire on it at first which was quieter
but I switched to a solid rubber after getting a couple of flats. I did make
new longer steering arms for it that give it the proper steering geometry.
It steers well, stays steerable when needed and unlocks into free swivel if
I want to pivot on one wheel. I wouldn't change a thing now.
Mike Groah
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> On Jan 23, 2014, at 7:06 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
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> --> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
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> Spring and Matco tail wheel are 4 1/2 lbs heavier than the A-frame and 4"
> wheel that I previously had.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott
> Knowlton
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:56 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
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> --> <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
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> For those of us who haven't chosen a tailwheel solution would you be
> able to give us a weight comparison between your new Marco and spring
> and the former a-frame.
>
> Scott Knowlton
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 7:31 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> --> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>>
>> Good decision, Bob! Note that Mike Groah has that tail wheel on his
>> plans-built BHP A-frame and it functions perfectly for him. I am
>> continually complimented on the style and functionality of that tail
>> wheel by locals who are seeing it for the first time.
>>
>> All those decisions....they tend to keep us awake! Seems like the
>> actual building is the easy part!
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>> NX308MB
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> bdewenter
>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:19 AM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
>>
>> --> <anonymouse@woh.rr.com>
>>
>> After a long drawn out battle of my whits, I decided to install the
>> Matco
> 6"
>> solid tail-wheel with the #4 homebuilders special leaf spring from
>> ACS. I figured I was going to eventually rip my tail wheel off on
>> some bad landing
>> 400 miles from home. It would be easier to call ACS and get new
>> parts overnight than try to find a way to repair he Bernard A-Frame
style.
>>
>> I'm glad Gary and others have posted positive comments about the
>> Matco
> unit.
>> I was afraid I might be making a bad decision trading weight for
>> convenience
>> - until now that is. Love this forum!
>>
>> --------
>> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
>> Dayton OH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417463#417463
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Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet fly-in 2014 |
OK, so this evening I put pencil lines on the sectionals and planned my route of
flight and fuel stops. First leg will be over the Siskiyou Summit to Siskiyou
County airport, 48 statute, I'm planning a 7AM launch on Friday, June 6 so
I should arrive at Siskiyou County ("check for oil leaks; check for loose hardware;
check pilot for weak knees and heart palpitations") at about 8AM. Next
stop will be Red Bluff, 116 statute, about 2 hours. Fuel up and keep going.
Next stop will be at Yolo County west of Sacramento, I should arrive at about 1PM
and will fuel up, have lunch, and seek a remedy for saddle soreness.
Next stop (if I can keep awake after lunch!) will be at Los Banos, 118 statute
miles distant, where I should arrive before 5PM. I will probably stay the night
at a motel there and plan on grouping up with anybody who will be heading out
to Frazier Lake from the Los Banos side in the morning. I will have roughly
7 flight hours and 393 statute miles from Medford to Los Banos.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: Matco tailwheel |
EAAHotline (the weekly e-newsletter)has very interesting info regarding setting
up a tail wheel. The member comments address steering geometry and wheel shimmy
very well. Check it out
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> On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:17 PM, "Chris" <catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
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> Several pictures of Mike's tail wheel are about 1/2 way down this page.
>
> http://westcoastpiet.com/2013_west_coast_pietenpol_gathering.htm
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Groah
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 1:28 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
>
> --> <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
>
> I like the A frame with the Matco tail wheel attached. It works well, it
> was easy to build, and it doesn't stress the fuselage in ways it wasn't
> designed to be. I had the pneumatic tire on it at first which was quieter
> but I switched to a solid rubber after getting a couple of flats. I did make
> new longer steering arms for it that give it the proper steering geometry.
> It steers well, stays steerable when needed and unlocks into free swivel if
> I want to pivot on one wheel. I wouldn't change a thing now.
>
> Mike Groah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 7:06 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> --> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>>
>> Spring and Matco tail wheel are 4 1/2 lbs heavier than the A-frame and 4"
>> wheel that I previously had.
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>> NX308MB
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott
>> Knowlton
>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:56 AM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
>>
>> --> <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
>>
>> For those of us who haven't chosen a tailwheel solution would you be
>> able to give us a weight comparison between your new Marco and spring
>> and the former a-frame.
>>
>> Scott Knowlton
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 7:31 AM, "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> --> <gboothe5@comcast.net>
>>>
>>> Good decision, Bob! Note that Mike Groah has that tail wheel on his
>>> plans-built BHP A-frame and it functions perfectly for him. I am
>>> continually complimented on the style and functionality of that tail
>>> wheel by locals who are seeing it for the first time.
>>>
>>> All those decisions....they tend to keep us awake! Seems like the
>>> actual building is the easy part!
>>>
>>> Gary Boothe
>>> NX308MB
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>>> bdewenter
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:19 AM
>>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Matco tailwheel
>>>
>>> --> <anonymouse@woh.rr.com>
>>>
>>> After a long drawn out battle of my whits, I decided to install the
>>> Matco
>> 6"
>>> solid tail-wheel with the #4 homebuilders special leaf spring from
>>> ACS. I figured I was going to eventually rip my tail wheel off on
>>> some bad landing
>>> 400 miles from home. It would be easier to call ACS and get new
>>> parts overnight than try to find a way to repair he Bernard A-Frame
> style.
>>>
>>> I'm glad Gary and others have posted positive comments about the
>>> Matco
>> unit.
>>> I was afraid I might be making a bad decision trading weight for
>>> convenience
>>> - until now that is. Love this forum!
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
>>> Dayton OH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417463#417463
>
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